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<h2><a name="OV">Overview</a></h2>
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<blockquote><cite>
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Delenn is recalled to Minbar to resolve a problem concerning her relationship
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with Sheridan, and must finally face up to her role in the Earth-Minbari War.
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Sheridan sends Marcus and Franklin to Mars on a secret mission.
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</cite>
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<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Carpenter,+Brian">Brian Carpenter</a> as <a href="/lurk/ftp/Pictures/Characters/callenn.jpg">Callenn</a>.
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<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Schone,+Reiner">Reiner Schone</a> as Dukhat.
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</blockquote>
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<pre><a href="/lurk/p5/intro.html">P5 Rating</a>: <a href="/lurk/p5/075">8.55</a>
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Production number: 409
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Original air week: February 24, 1997
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<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000DGBEY/thelurkersguidet">DVD release date</a>: January 6, 2004
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Written by J. Michael Straczynski
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Directed by Tony Dow
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</pre>
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<p>
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<hr size=3>
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<h2><a name="BP">Plot Points</a></h2>
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<ul>
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<li>@@@856745633 After the last Shadow War, Valen, who was still genetically
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partially human
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(<a href="061.html">"War Without End, Part Two,"</a>)
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had children. The children, fearing persecution because they weren't
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pure Minbari, fled Minbar until after Valen's death. They returned
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and had children of their own, spreading human genes through the
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Minbari population to the present day.
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<li>@@@856745633 Valen's body was never found after his death.
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<li>@@@856745633 Delenn is a descendant of Valen, and as such had some
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human DNA even before her transformation in
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<a href="022.html">"Chrysalis."</a>
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<li>@@@856745991 The Grey Council elected not to make contact with humans,
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who they heard about through the Centauri. When the Grey Council's
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cruiser came upon the human convoy some time later
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(<a href="057.html">"A Late Delivery from Avalon"</a>)
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only Delenn, who had researched humans in the meantime, knew which race
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they belonged to. Dukhat realized that the Minbari practice of
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approaching with gun ports open could be dangerous, but before his
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order to close them could be carried out, the Earth ships attacked.
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<li>@@@856745633 Enraged over the death of Dukhat, Delenn gave the order
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that started the Earth-Minbari War. She was later unable to stop it
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from proceeding.
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<li>@@@856745633 The Triluminaries used by the Grey Council were
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made specifically for Sinclair. They activate in the presence of
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Sinclair/Valen's DNA.
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They were made on Epsilon 3 and brought back in time by Sinclair
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(<a href="061.html">"War Without End, Part Two."</a>)
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<li>@@@856979209 Franklin has given G'Kar a prosthetic eye, which can see
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and transmit images to G'Kar's brain even when it's not in its socket.
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</ul>
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<h2><a name="UQ">Unanswered Questions</a></h2>
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<ul>
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<li>@@@856745633 Why was Valen's body never found? Is he perhaps still
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alive or in suspended animation?
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<li>@@@856809066 In
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<a href="020.html">"Babylon Squared,"</a>
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Delenn was given a triluminary and told there were still two left.
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Why was Sinclair given three of them, when only one was required to
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operate the chrysalis machine?
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(<a href="022.html">"Chrysalis,"</a>
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<a href="061.html">"War Without End, Part Two"</a>)
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<li>@@@856809127 Did Delenn maintain the secret of Valen's human DNA,
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allowing Callenn to cover up for her as he suggested?
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<li>@@@857554159 Exactly what is the dreaming? Does it have a will of its
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own, or does it simply stimulate the dreamer's subconscious?
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<li>@@@856979209 How far can G'Kar's eye transmit? Is it useful for
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spying purposes?
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</ul>
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<h2><a name="AN">Analysis</a></h2>
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<ul>
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<li>@@@856745633 Callenn said the number of Minbari with traces of human
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DNA were beyond measure. A rough estimate can be made, however. If
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Minbari couples have, on average, two children, and have children at
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age fifty (since Minbari have longer lifespans than humans, a longer
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delay between generations is plausible) then in a thousand years,
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there would be twenty generations of Valen's descendants, the most
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recent numbering about 1,000,000. That estimate assumes no
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interbreeding among his descendants, and a variation in the number
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of children of the first few generations could greatly alter the number.
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Still, it's a useful discussion point.
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<p>
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1,000,000 probably works out to a tiny fraction of the Minbari
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population, which, it's not unreasonable to assume, is many billions
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of people spread across various worlds despite Lennier's claim
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(<a href="023.html">"Points of Departure"</a>)
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that Minbari population has been on the decline for some time.
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<p>
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On the other hand, if Valen's descendants
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were markedly more prolific than average Minbari, e.g. with a 30-year
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generation time rather than a 50-year one (and both numbers are
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pure conjecture!) there'd have been 33 generations, with 8,600,000,000
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in the most recent, in which case the term "countless" would easily
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apply. Obviously interbreeding, very probable in a population that
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size, would reduce the number markedly.
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<p>
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Either way, a substantial percentage of the Minbari population most
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likely still has pure Minbari genes. This is supported by Dukhat's
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reaction to the triluminary glowing when Delenn touched it; if Valen's
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progeny were in fact a large percentage of the population, presumably
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previous Grey Council members would have triggered the triluminary.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857892773 Callenn's horror at the prospect of human DNA mingling
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with Minbari genes parallels the newscast in
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<a href="074.html">"The Illusion of Truth,"</a>
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which attempted to suggest that Delenn and Sheridan wanted to
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introduce Minbari genes into humans. In fact, just the opposite has
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occurred.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857586065 David, Delenn and Sheridan's son
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(<a href="061.html">"War Without End, Part Two"</a>)
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will be a direct descendant of all three of The One.
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<P>
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<li>@@@877199700 Dukhat's conversation with Delenn is echoed years later
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when Lennier arrives on Babylon 5
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(<a href="005.html">"The Parliament of Dreams"</a>)
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and she tells him the same thing Dukhat told her: "I cannot have an
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aide who will not look up. You will be forever walking into things."
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<p>
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In
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<a href="079.html">"Rumors, Bargains, and Lies,"</a>
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Delenn said she'd been training Lennier as Dukhat trained her.
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Delenn eventually succeeded Dukhat as leader of the Minbari, both in
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this episode and in
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<a href="020.html">"Babylon Squared,"</a>
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though she turned the position down in both cases. Will the parallel
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between Lennier and Delenn in her youth continue into the future? Is
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Lennier destined to a prominent place in Minbari society?
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<p>
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<li>@@@865624085 Dukhat said he could override the Council's decision
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to avoid contacting the humans. What is the relationship between the
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Council and the leader? Do they simply serve as an advisory body,
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with the final decisions ultimately made by the leader?
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<p>
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<li>@@@857586446 Lennier's pledge to Delenn, to be by her side through
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fire, storm, darkness, and death, echoes the pledge of the Nine to
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the One in the Minbari ceremony in
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<a href="005.html">"The Parliament of Dreams."</a>
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<p>
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<li>@@@865732097 Delenn feels responsible for the Earth-Minbari War. Her
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father committed suicide, heartbroken over the war
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(<a href="063.html">"Grey 17 Is Missing."</a>)
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Does Delenn thus feel personally responsible for her father's death?
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<p>
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<li>@@@857335050 Why did Dukhat suspect Delenn was descended from Valen?
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With so many descendants, he couldn't have followed Valen's entire
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bloodline, even assuming it was all documented. Perhaps he simply
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researched the heritage of all the acolytes working with the Grey
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Council.
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<p>
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<li>@@@875586691 Delenn's childhood vision
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(<a href="040.html">"Confessions and Lamentations,"</a>)
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in which a figure appeared to her in a temple and said he wouldn't
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allow "any of my little ones" to come to harm there, takes on new
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significance now. If the figure was some kind of manifestation of
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Valen, "little ones" might have referred to his descendants, and
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the vision might have been Delenn's first clue that she was
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somehow related to him. If so, the vision was probably a powerful
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motivating force for her, perhaps even the source of her belief in
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her own destiny.
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<p>
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If Delenn told Dukhat about the vision, or he found out about it
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some other way, that might explain his suspicion that she was a
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descendant of Valen.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857335050 Did Dukhat know Valen was part human? Callenn was aware
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of it; was it common knowledge among the Grey Council after Sinclair
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was interrogated and the triluminary indicated his relation to Valen?
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(<a href="008.html">"And the Sky Full of Stars"</a>)
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<p>
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<li>@@@857890134 Do Valen's descendants have distinguishing features?
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Perhaps the presence of human DNA explains why a small number of
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Minbari men have facial hair, e.g. Dukhat, Draal
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(<a href="018.html">"A Voice in the Wilderness"</a>)
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and Kalain
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(<a href="023.html">"Points of Departure."</a>)
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<p>
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<li>@@@857326883 In
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<a href="002.html">"Soul Hunter,"</a>
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the soul hunter recalls that the Minbari made a wall of bodies to stop
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Dukhat's soul from being taken. Although soul hunters appeared as the
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battle began, no attempt to stop them was shown, and Delenn was
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seeminly unaware of them as Dukhat lay dying in her arms. Perhaps the
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soul hunter was speaking metaphorically; there were so many Minbari
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dead that their ability to sense death didn't lead them to Dukhat in
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particular. However, since the soul hunter recognized Delenn years
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later, he must have arrived at Dukhat at some point, perhaps after she
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ordered the attack on the humans.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857889258 Zack's discomfort with his new uniform mirrors his
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discomfort with the Earthforce uniform in
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<a href="049.html">"Voices of Authority."</a>
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<p>
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<li>@@@857325791 G'Kar is wearing rags around his eye in the flashforward
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in
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<a href="061.html">"War Without End, Part Two."</a>
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Where was his eye? Destroyed or discarded, or simply recharging or
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sending him images from somewhere else?
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<p>
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<li>@@@857325791 Ivanova is likely still the leader of half the Drazi
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on Babylon 5. She wore the green leader's sash to the party.
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Presumably the fact that all the formerly green Drazi are now wearing
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purple
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(<a href="025.html">"The Geometry of Shadows"</a>)
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didn't cause any problems.
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</ul>
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<h2><a name="NO">Notes</a></h2>
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<ul>
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<li>@@@857326883 One of the heavy cruisers in the Prometheus convoy is the
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Hyperion
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(<a href="019.html">"A Voice in the Wilderness, Part Two."</a>)
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The name can be seen briefly on the side of the ship in one scene.
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According to coproducer George Johnsen, that was intentional, not
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just an accidental reuse of a computer model,
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implying the Hyperion escaped from the Minbari counterattack on the
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Earth base.
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<li>@@@900954390 More than five days may have elapsed between the first
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scene, Zack's fitting, and the second, the arrival of Callenn and his
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entourage.
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(<A href="112.html#chron">"Thirdspace"</a>)
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<li>@@@856981120 <a name="NO.0g">A slight inaccuracy:</a>
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The ship carrying Franklin and
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Marcus is shown to have zero gravity. But the exterior shot shows its
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engines firing. The resulting acceleration (in the vacuum of space,
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any thrust will result in acceleration) would have pushed all the
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objects in the cargo hold toward one of the walls. Of course, it's
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possible the engines were glowing but not actually in use; perhaps
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they were in some sort of standby mode.
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<li>@@@857891914 Continuity glitch: During the conference scene with
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Sheridan, Franklin, and Marcus, Franklin is reading over his documents
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with the folder flat on Sheridan's desk. When the view shifts to show
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all three characters, Franklin is holding the folder.
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<li>@@@875231634 The tune sung by Marcus is
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<a href="http://math.idbsu.edu/gas/pirates/html/p13.html">"I Am the Very
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Model of a Modern Major General,"</a>
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from
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<a href="http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/pirates/html/p13.html">"The
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Pirates of Penzance"</a>
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by Gilbert and Sullivan. Marcus misquotes the song slightly: he
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says, "quote the facts historical," when the original lyrics are,
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"quote the fights historical."
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<li>@@@857376446 Delenn's family name, Mir, may be a reference to Mira
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Furlan's first name.
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<li>@@@859361670 Sheridan's line about his true face being mashed up
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against a pillow and drooling was based on a
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rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated message commenting on
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<a href="065.html">"Shadow Dancing,"</a>
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where the Minbari ritual was first introduced.
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</ul>
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<h2><a name="JS">jms speaks</a></h2>
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<ul>
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<p>
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<li>@@@857554603 <em>Did Dukhat come out the way you imagined him?</em><br>
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Yeah, that's pretty close to how
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I saw him in my head. Definitely a bigger than life fellow.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857685549 When I introduce a new character, I just kinda see a
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sense of the character in my head, an outline...if you take off your
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glasses, and you're nearsighted, that will give you some sense of it.
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When an actor comes in and hits it, the character goes into sharp focus.
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<p>
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<li>@@@850297586 <em>Will Delenn appear in flashbacks with her pre-chrysalis
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appearance?</em><br>
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Yes, Mira got into the original year-one makeup. It's
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funny...when I walked out onto the set, and saw her in that prosthetic,
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the first words that came out of my mouth were, "It's *you*! I haven't
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seen you in almost three years, how've you been?"
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<p>
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I don't think Mira quite knew what to make of me.
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<p>
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<li>@@@855996679 Actually, though the tougher Delenn is in flashbacks in 2
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weeks [referring to this episode], the foreground/contemporary story
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has her very tough, and very
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smart. Basically, the next mini-arc sequence focuses a LOT on
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Delenn...she has many facets, and while part of that is the
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relationship, there's steel there as well, and we're going to explore
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that. As she at one point comments to Sheridan, "I appreciate that you
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have come to care for what I have become... but never forget who I am,
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or what I can do."
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<p>
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After this arc of hers, nobody's ever going to make that
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mistake.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857376321 <em>How could Dukhat override the Grey Council, if he was
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simply a member?</em><br>
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There's the One, and the Nine...when Dukhat was alive, there
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were 9 grey council members and him as the head of it, making ten.
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(Look at the picture and count the number of people.) 1 and 9.
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<p>
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Valen called together the Grey Council, formed the first one;
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until then the castes had been in constant competition. He wanted to
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operate outside of that a bit, so he made sure he was not one of the
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Nine. That tradition has continued.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857547292 <em>But when he introduced Delenn, there was an empty
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spotlight.</em><br>
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No, if you keep watching Dukhat comes in, followed by Delenn,
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through the opening (the empty spot) and then another Minbari comes in
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to fill that spot.
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<p>
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(Sudden thought...I have to check to see if we *used* that shot
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or if it was just in dailies...but if you count the Minbari there at
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the end of the scene, you'll find the count is correct.)
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<p>
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<li>@@@857328008 Calenn was not Delenn's brother; the grey councilor speaks
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of brothers in the generic sense.
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<p>
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Draal, in his first appearance, also had a small beard.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857554509 Other Minbari have had facial hair; including Draal
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v1.0 and Kalain in "Points of Departure." It's certainly not common,
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though.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857547292 <em>Who were the other ships at the battle?</em><br>
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Those were Soul Hunters, who in the first season we learned
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showed up to attempt to grab Dukhat's soul...they were prevented from
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successfully boarding the ship by the Minbari, who threw up a wall of
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bodies to stop them (which is why there were few around with Delenn and
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Dukhat; Soul Hunters are a pretty advanced sort, the terror of Minbari,
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and it took a lot to stop them). After Dukhat died, Delenn went down
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and joined in, confronting them about this.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857554776 Others in the Council died, as was noted when the one
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says, "Our brothers?" "Dead," Delenn says. So there were others.
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<p>
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<li>@@@864693044 <em>Won't Sheridan be upset when he finds out Delenn
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ordered the war?</em><br>
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"Listen, honey, while you were out I went to the store and I
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bought some new candles, you know how we're always running out, and
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Lennier took the cat in to be cleaned, and oh, did I mention I was
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directly responsible for the deaths of two hundred and fifty thousand
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of your best friends and fellow officers? Pass the sugar."
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<p>
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She'll never tell him.
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<p>
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Because it's over...what would be the point, except to ruin what
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they have now.
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<p>
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<li>@@@864693194 The reality is...in war, one does what one does.
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Afterward, as we heal, we try to forget what we did, and what they did.
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He killed as many Minbari as he could; she was on the Grey Council that
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directed the war. One doesn't go into it.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857889979 <em>Why didn't Sinclair leave Dukhat a message warning
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him about meeting the humans?</em><br>
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He could have left Dukhat a message...but tampering in the
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future is VERY chancy business, and could even make things worse, for
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all we know.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857889418 <em>Did the triluminary sense Sinclair?</em><br>
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Yeah, we showed it glowing when Sinclair was catpured. Since
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it happened with Valen, they assumed it was because he had a Minbari
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soul, maybe Valen reborn.
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<p>
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<li>@@@864692860 Dukhat was not descended from Valen; yes, the Grey Council
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now knows who Sinclair was; and general knowledge of what happened
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would certainly have an upsetting effect on Minbari society, so they
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will continue to keep it indefinitely back-roomed....
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<p>
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<li>@@@859454397 Some Minbari on the Grey Council think that Sinclair opened
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up the "soul door," for lack of a better term, and Delenn's actions can
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be seen as a kind of back-fire, closing the door again. Ain't
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necessarily what's true, but what they believe.
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<p>
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And yes, they would've had Delenn remain childless, but would be
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allowed to marry a Minbari. And, again, it's a matter of marrying a
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non-Minbari with or WITHOUT kids...it's a very inflammatory sort of
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thing from a cultural perspective.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857376321 <em>Did Delenn's human DNA allow her to undergo the
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transformation? Will this be important in the future?</em><br>
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Yeah, the human DNA definitely helped...and overall, this isn't
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so much the arc as the overall story and history. It's filling out the
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world.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857547292 <em>Is it a coincidence that Delenn's family name is
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Russian for "peace?"</em><br>
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Yeah, there's that, and it nicely intersects with the fact that
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Delenn is portrayed by MIRa Furlan. It's kind of a bank shot.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857554225 Mir is her family; you are generally born into a caste
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unless you at some point decide that the calling of your heart is
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elsewhere, at which point you enter training for that other caste (with
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the permission of your caste leaders) until such time as it's finalized
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that that's what you want, at which time you're assigned to a clan
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within that caste. If you choose to stay in the caste you're born
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into, you automatically are in your familiy's clan.
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<p>
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<li>@@@865731956 Lennier is religious caste; and all members of a given
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clan belong to one caste.
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<p>
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There are, for instance, no religious caste members of the Star
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Riders (military caste) clan.
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<p>
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<em>This seems to be contradicted by
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<a href="036.html">"There All the Honor Lies,"</a>
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in which Levell, a warrior, was a member of Lennier's clan.</em>
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<p>
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<li>@@@857554509 <em>How does the dreaming know whose memories to probe?
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Is it whoever drinks the drug first?</em><br>
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I think the order or dominance of the drug is probably
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determined by the contents of the script....
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<p>
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<li>@@@856981247 "My question is, since we can see that the ship's engine
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is running, why aren't all of the objects in the hold laying against
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the bulkhead as a result of the ship's movement? Aside from that, it
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was a pretty neat effects shot."
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<p>
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Because it's accurate; it's the same reason you don't see everything
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slammed up against the back wall of the shuttle even though it's
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circling the earth at thousands of miles per hour.
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<p>
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<em>Ed. note: This is wrong; that effect does occur on the shuttle
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when its maneuvering thrusters fire, which is why shuttle crews lock
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everything down during maneuvers. See
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<a href="#NO.0g">Notes.</a></em>
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<p>
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<li>@@@857325171 The ship with Marcus and Franklin *wasn't* spinning...
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hence, no gravity.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857327683 <em>Coproducer George Johnsen</em><br>
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Re: your comment that the Hyperion was more likely a re-used computer
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model. All of the models used in the show are stored "nameless" with a
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link to the naming/numbering file that has to be activated to add the
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name to the ship to avoid this kind of problem. (Instigated when it
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happened on an earlier episode). The ship in the picture is the
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Hyperion 'cuz Joe wanted it that way.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857554509 There was the Prometheus, which was there; and others,
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including the Amundsen. The one you saw, which looks a bit like the
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Aggy but without the rotating section, is another, smaller class of
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destroyer also seen, I believe, in [Severed] "Dreams."
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<p>
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<li>@@@874689595 <em>How did the Earth ships hit the Minbari ships, if
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human targeting systems can't lock on? Why weren't Franklin and
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Marcus floating?</em><br>
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They targeted visually, it was close enough to do so.
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<p>
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A hit with full guns of a major destroyer and accompanying
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ships will kill damn near any single ship that does not have some kind
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of defensive screen going (fighers or counter-lasers or missiles or the
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like).
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<p>
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The fightes were launched in main while on approach.
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<p>
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Franklin and Marcus *were* strapped in, which if you look more
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closely you can see.
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<p>
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<li>@@@857889979 <em>In your comments on
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<a href="061.html">"War Without End, Part Two,"</a>
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you said Valen had no children. Is your message right, or is the
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episode?</em><br>
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What airs is considered canon; in 15 years, nobody's gonna be
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hauling these messages around. But the show will still be on the air.
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If it airs, it's canon.
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<p>
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And in another one of those posts, I did mention that on just a
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couple of small occasions, I have fibbed when asked major story arc
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questions to protect future storylines from being deflated....
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<p>
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<li>@@@862818943 If you check the archives, when people said, "But what
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about the relationship between Sinclair and Delenn we see?" (and this
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is back a long time ago), I said that there is a relationship there,
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yes, but it isn't what you think it is. Now we see what it was.
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|
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<p>
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<li>@@@859316095 <em>Minbari society doesn't seem to have been affected
|
|
much by the loss of the Grey Council.</em><br>
|
|
The problems caused by the breakup of the Grey Council
|
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will form a major part of the story arc about mid-season.
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|
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|
<p>
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|
<li>@@@860558543 <em>Was the song Jason Carter's idea?</em><br>
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|
The song was in the script; Jason then had to learn it.
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<p>
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<li>@@@865288657 <em>What was involved in using the song in the end
|
|
credits?</em><br>
|
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Nothing, really...we just grabbed one of the audio bits from the
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day's filming and dropped it in.
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