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								<h2><a name="OV">Overview</a></h2>


								<blockquote><cite>

								Babylon 4 returns as abruptly as it vanished, but its reappearance may bode

								ill for the future.  Delenn receives a momentous offer.

								</cite>


								<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Broadhurst,+Kent">Kent Broadhurst</a> as Major Krantz.

								<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Choate,+Tim">Tim Choate</a> as Zathras.

								<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Gentile,+Denise">Denise Gentile</a> as Lise Hampton.

								</blockquote>


								<pre>

								Sub-genre: Intrigue/mystery

								<a href="/lurk/p5/intro.html">P5 Rating</a>: <a href="/lurk/p5/020">8.57</a>


								Production number: 118

								Original air date: August 10, 1994

								<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006HAZ4/thelurkersguidet">DVD release date</a>: November 5, 2002


								Written by J. Michael Straczynski

								Directed by Jim Johnston

								</pre>


								<h3>Watch For:</h3>

								<ul>

								   <li> A man shouts at Garibaldi and Sinclair; what he says might provide

									clues about the nature of the opponents in another scene.

								   <li> Look closely at what's inside a transparent case given to Delenn.

									It's an object that's been shown in a previous episode.

								</ul>


								<p>

								<hr size=3>

								<p>


								<h2><a name="BP">Backplot</a></h2>

								<ul>

								   <li> Babylon 4 was stolen by people from the future, apparently at Sinclair's

									behest during that time period, to act as a base of operations in a

									tremendous war being fought between the forces of light and darkness.


								   <li> Sinclair will be a great leader, possibly <em>the</em> leader, of the

									forces of light in that war.


								   <li> <a name="BP:flash">At some point,</a> long before he participates in

									Babylon 4's disappearance, Sinclair will flee a place (most likely

									Babylon 5, cf.

									<a href="013.html">"Signs and Portents"</a>)

									that is about to be overrun by some evil creatures.  Garibaldi will stay

									behind to fight, but will force Sinclair to leave.  A

									<a href="020.flash.html">transcript</a>

									of the scene in question is available.


								   <li> The Grey Council stopped the war because of a prophecy.  Valen (a

									revered figure, see

									<a href="#JS:valen">jms speaks</a>)

									said that humans, or some among them, had a destiny with which the

									Minbari could not be allowed to interfere.


								   <li> Delenn is on Babylon 5 to study humanity, to determine whether the

									prophecy is correct.

								</ul>


								<h2><a name="UQ">Unanswered Questions</a></h2>

								<ul>

								   <li> Will Babylon 4 appear again?  If so, when?

								   <li> Was it really Sinclair in the suit?  If not, who or what was it?

								   <li> What was Sinclair trying to prevent from happening?

								   <li> Who was waiting for Delenn and Sinclair?

								   <li> Will Delenn keep her position on the council?

								   <li> What is the purpose of the triluminary?

								   <li> What was happening in Sinclair's flashforward?  Who or what was

									attacking the station?  Is it related to the destruction of the station

									as foretold in

									<a href="013.html">"Signs and Portents?"</a>

								   <li> What was the crazed man referring to when he shouted about "monsters"

									and said, "I see you... you think I can't?"  (see

									<a href="#AN:inv">Analysis</a>)

								   <li> Is the Grey Council's cruiser the same place Sinclair was taken during

									the Battle of the Line?  (cf.

									<a href="008.html">"And the Sky Full of Stars"</a>)

								   <li> Why is Delenn so convinced she must remain on Babylon 5, even at the

									risk of her standing in the Council?

								   <li> What "change" does Delenn believe is coming?

								</ul>


								<h2><a name="AN">Analysis</a></h2>

								<ul>

								   <li> None of the races have demonstrated an ability to travel through

									time.  Yet within Sinclair's lifetime, such technology will either

									be developed, discovered, or introduced by people from the distant

									past or future.  Does it exist already?  If so, who has it?

									Zathras' people may be the ones to provide the technology.


								   <li> The voice that speaks to Sinclair sounds like Delenn's, but her face is

									intentionally not shown.  Presumably there is a reason for that;

									Delenn may be due to change in some way that will alter her appearance.


								   <li> After Babylon 4 completes its time jump, a voice (presumably a

									computer) announces that the atmosphere was breathable.  Why wasn't

									it breathable before?  Zathras clearly had no trouble breathing in

									the past, so is something about the future Sinclair different that

									prevents him from breathing a normal atmosphere?


								   <li> In the past, when we've seen Grey Council members, they have had silver

									triangles on their foreheads

									(<a href="008.html">"And the Sky Full of Stars"</a>

									and

									<a href="013.html">"Signs and Portents"</a>

									during Morden's visit to Delenn.)  Yet no such triangles were visible

									this time.  What do the triangles mean, and what causes them to

									appear?  (see

									<a href="#JS:triangle">jms speaks</a>)


								   <li> <a name="AN:inv">The attacking force</a>

									in Sinclair's vision of the future seemed to be invisible.

									Witness the fact that Garibaldi's men were firing in seemingly random

									directions, as if they didn't know where the enemy was.  It also seems

									unlikely that they'd use a flamethrower if they could aim at their

									opponents.  When the unknown force finally cut through the wall, it

									was forced inward, but nothing could be seen forcing it.  This also

									explains what the crazed man on B4 was talking about; he'd seen

									visions of a battle against invisible foes too.

									<p>

									The only instance of invisibility seen in the series up until this

									episode was in

									<a href="007.html">"The War Prayer,"</a>

									and it was developed by the Earth Alliance military, suggesting

									perhaps that the attackers might be humans.


								   <li> Garibaldi flashed back to an event two years earlier.  That may

									suggest that Sinclair's flashforward (if indeed that's what it was)

									was to two years in the future, which would put the scene somewhere

									in the year 2260, season three of the series.


								</ul>


								<h2><a name="NO">Notes</a></h2>

								<ul>

								   <li> Babylon 4 is larger than Babylon 5.

								</ul>


								<h2><a name="JS">jms speaks</a></h2>

								<ul>

								   <p>

								   <li> The one I'm most looking forward to writing just now, though, is

									"Babylon Squared," in which we finally show what happened to Babylon

									4, and in the process ask more questions than we answer (though at

									least we DO answer the questions we asked about the fate of that

									station in general...you'll know what happened to it, just not yet

									what it means). The end of this episode will cause more speculation

									and consternation and astonishment than anything you've seen on TV in

									a long, long, very long time.


								   <p>

								   <li> What a weird day...filming "Babylon Squared," and one minute I'm

									standing in the anteroom/hallway of a Minbari cruiser that leads into

									the Great Hall and the chambers of the Grey Council...a few minutes

									later I'm standing in a section of Babylon 4, and the whole atmosphere

									of the crew is *very* different, the whole sensibility is strange...

									very strange.


									<p>

									"Babylon Squared" has a *very* different look to it, and a very eerie

									and foreboding feel about it, which I like a lot.  Jim Johnston, who

									directed "Soul Hunter" and several others is doing it.  Very moody.


								   <p>

								   <li> Yesterday, I got the final air-check versions of "Babylon Squared"

									and "Chrysalis" to QC before delivering them to PTEN.  Watched both

									of them three times in the same day.  They're just stunning.

									Probably the two best episodes of the entire season.


								   <p>

								   <li> Yes, you will see the Major Conflict that leads to the situation with

									Babylon 4.  We're building toward a massive conflagration here.


								   <p>

								   <li> Yes, you will definitely, at some point, see the flip side of the

									B2 episode.


								   <p>

								   <li> No, actually, B2 was structured for maximum jarring effect, thus the

									sudden cuts back and forth, the sickly green light in B4...makes the

									person watching feel unexplainably anxious, which was a subliminal

									but definite intent.  So no, nothing much was cut.  And yes,

									eventually we will see the flip-side of the B4 story.


								   <p>

								   <li> In B-squared, we saw the present

									events in the vanishment of B4; in a future episode, we'll actually see

									our characters make the decision to go back in time and yank B4 forward,

									what went wrong, and so on.


								   <p>

								   <li>@@@877971397 <em>The One's suit was very similar to the suits in

									"2001."</em><br>

									Re: the suit...that wasn't an intentional 2001 nod...we went to

									Modern Props to get a space suit for Babylon Squared, and the only one

									they had on hand that would work for us was one left-over from 2010,

									which I asked the folks in costume to change as much as

									possible...though it was pretty much what it was regardless.  So that

									one wasn't intentional.


								   <p>

								   <li> Nope; Zathras is one of his race, which aren't offspring of any

									other two groups.


								   <p>

								   <li> When Zathras shows up in time, it'll definitely be recognizeable as

									Zathras.


								   <p>

								   <li> B5 is smaller than B4 because they sunk most of

									their budget into B4; on B5 they had to get outside

									funding, and scrimped.


								   <p>

								   <li> B1-B4 were located in roughly the same sector, with B4 using some of

									the materials from 1-3 leftover.  B5 was constructed about 3 hours

									(traveling time in real-space) from the location of B4.


								   <p>

								   <li> No commander had yet been assigned to Babylon 4.  One Major Krantz

									had been assigned to oversee the final stages of construction, and

									was on board -- along with about 1300 others in the construction

									crew -- when the station vanished.  The station had only been on-

									line 24 hours, and the discussions of a commanding officer had just

									begun when it disappeared.


								   <p>

								   <li> Major Krantz wasn't so much in charge of B4 as he was (as noted in

									dialogue) assigned to oversee the final stages of construction.  His

									job was to get the station finished, then turn it over to someone

									else to run.


								   <p>

								   <li> <a name="JS:triangle"><cite>Why no triangles on the Council's

									heads?</cite></a>

									<br>

									While the triangle is one element of the Grey Council

									symbology, it is not present and visible at all times and

									under all circumstances; it has a particular purpose or

									meaning.


								   <p>

								   <li> The triangle only manifests itself for specific reasons, at specific

									times, neither of which were appropriate to that moment.  And yes,

									the Triluminary is much cooler...and does something quite interesting.


								   <p>

								   <li> <a name="JS:valen">Valen</a> was the one who brought Minbari

									civilization together, he is their Christ-figure.  And yes, the

									heavyset Grey Council member is the same one as in "Sky."


								   <p>

								   <li>@@@840129143 <em>Does the Grey Council live permanently on that

									ship?</em><br>

									They stay on the cruiser almost entirely during their tenure in

									the council, only leaving for personal family crisis/situations and the

									like.


								   <p>

								   <li> <cite>Garibaldi's closing lines in Sinclair's flashforward are

									reminiscent of "Aliens."</cite><br>

									When you're shooting a show, invariably you get to the stage and

									find that you have, for instance, three lines, one per character in the

									room...and you're trying to get them out the door, and it moves better

									if you give one line to one character and the other two to the other

									character.  That sometimes happens.  But rarely.  In the Garibaldi's

									yell case, it was written as a quick shot, he yells and we're out.  The

									director wanted to extend the shot a bit, visually.  I wasn't in the

									studio at the time, so Jerry improvised a series of yells.

									<p>

									This sort of thing is *extremely* rare on the show; the actors and

									directors know they *cannot* change dialogue on the set without approval

									from me or Larry.  On any given script, no more than about 3-6 lines get

									modified for staging purposes once we get to the set.  And always with

									approval required.  This is an absolute, hard and fast rule.  The only

									reason the Garibaldi thing happened is that they figured it was just a

									yell, so nothing could get messed up story-wise (which is the primary

									reason this is so strict; change one word in a line and it could screw

									up plot points three episodes down the road) by having him yell a few

									specific lines.  If I'd been there for that scene, I would've written

									him something a little less reminiscent of "Aliens."


								   <p>

								   <li> The script called for Garibaldi to take up the Big Massive Gun and

									fire, with a primal YELL that went on forever.  Any dialogue at that

									point which replaced the yell came from the actor.  The "you're

									already dead" was only relevant to the scene, not T2.


								   <p>

								   <li> Re: Garibaldi in the flash-forward scene...no, it wasn't any kind of

									"homage" to Aliens.  (And for the most part, I try and stay clear of

									any kind of homage unless it's primarily a throwaway; I want my story

									to be MY story, not a bunch of homages.)


									<p>

									The single most moving kind of story for me is the "last man on the

									bridge"...the last defender who has to hold the line while others get

									away, knowing he will probably not survive it.  This has great power

									for me, and for many others, which is why it shows up again and again

									in films, literature, TV and other venues.  The Garibaldi scene has

									NOTHING to do with Aliens, and everything to do with that figure.


									<p>

									Re: *why* it is that humans are special...has nothing to do with

									sacrifice, or dedication (well, that's not quite true, it has

									something to do with it), but that's not the totality of it.  There's

									one more element you don't know about yet, that won't be revealed

									until season two, episode one, "Points of Departure."  Once you see

									that episode, you'll fully understand that there is one very

									particular thing about humans that is very special indeed.


								   <p>

								   <li> I kinda *have* to play fair with the story; if you hear Delenn's

									voice, then you can be sure it's Delenn.

									<p>

									In one form or another.


								   <p>

								   <li> "So who IS the One?  Some of the evidence points to Sinclair, but

									other bits seem to indicate Delenn.  Yet neither seems to fit all the

									facts above."


									<p>

									Exactly.


									<p>

									What you have here in your message are two pieces of the puzzle.

									You're confounded by the fact that somehow they don't quite seem to fit

									into one another.  That's because there's one last piece missing in this

									part of the picture, which fits in between them.  The intent is to put

									this piece into clear view in year three, probably between episodes 8

									and 11 approximately.  At that point, the question of the One will be

									fully answered.


								   <p>

								   <li> Re: Sinclair as the One...funny how all this time very few folks have

									really commented much on how it was that Zathras could look right into

									Sinclair's face and say, "NOT the One."


								   <p>

								   <li> <em>Garibaldi's eyes glow for one frame in the flashforward scene.</em>

									<br>

									(sigh)  Our rotoscope EFX guy was waiting for a bunch of PPG EFX to

									finish rendering in that battle scene, and was bored, and like many

									such EFX types, filled in the eyes of Garibaldi with weird stuff

									while waiting around.  When the other scene finished rendering, he

									got out, believing that he had not saved that one frame.  Unknowingly,

									he had.


									<p>

									Nobody caught it until after broadcast.


									<p>

									We talked.


								   <p>

								   <li> "It has been divulged that Sinclair is coexisting in a parallel

									dimension Babylon 4."


									<p>

									Actually, this has *not* been divulged...what it is is a speculation

									based on an offhand comment by Michael at a convention.  I jump in

									here only because, well, that ain't it.  B4 is not in an alternate

									dimension, neither is there an alternate Sinclair.  Just a course

									correction to the discussion.


								   <p>

								   <li> With only one exception, you won't see time travel anywhere in the

									five-year run of the B5 story.


								   <p>

								   <li> <em>Which do you do first?</em><br>

									Fasten, button.

									<p>

									Levi's Jeans forever!


								   <p>

								   <li> <em>Why wasn't Franklin delivering the autopsy report?</em><br>

									Garibaldi is head of security, and Franklin would likely give him the

									report, which Garibaldi then relays.  In such things there is a chain

									of command.  And as you say, it seemed pointless to bring in the actor

									just for one half-page scene.


								   <p>

								   <li> <em>Credits for two Gray Council members?</em><br>

									Mark Henrickson was the...rounder of the two Minbari.  The one with

									the staff wanted to go uncredited.


									<p>

									No real reason, he just felt it would be better for the character

									to remain mysterious; and since it really wasn't a big part, it

									wouldn't make a real difference one way or another in his credits and

									resume.  (I know that sounds weird, but as near as I can determine,

									that's the reason.  He did a great job, and we're looking forward to

									having him again.)


								   <p>

								   <li> <cite>Does the triluminary have anything to do with the sculpture in

									Delenn's quarters?</cite><br>

									Yes, the Triluminary does have a function in the

									device she's been making.


								</ul>