The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  1. <h2><a name="OV">Overview</a></h2>
  2. <blockquote><cite>
  3. Babylon 4 returns as abruptly as it vanished, but its reappearance may bode
  4. ill for the future. Delenn receives a momentous offer.
  5. </cite>
  6. <a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Broadhurst,+Kent">Kent Broadhurst</a> as Major Krantz.
  7. <a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Choate,+Tim">Tim Choate</a> as Zathras.
  8. <a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Gentile,+Denise">Denise Gentile</a> as Lise Hampton.
  9. </blockquote>
  10. <pre>
  11. Sub-genre: Intrigue/mystery
  12. <a href="/lurk/p5/intro.html">P5 Rating</a>: <a href="/lurk/p5/020">8.57</a>
  13. Production number: 118
  14. Original air date: August 10, 1994
  15. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006HAZ4/thelurkersguidet">DVD release date</a>: November 5, 2002
  16. Written by J. Michael Straczynski
  17. Directed by Jim Johnston
  18. </pre>
  19. <h3>Watch For:</h3>
  20. <ul>
  21. <li> A man shouts at Garibaldi and Sinclair; what he says might provide
  22. clues about the nature of the opponents in another scene.
  23. <li> Look closely at what's inside a transparent case given to Delenn.
  24. It's an object that's been shown in a previous episode.
  25. </ul>
  26. <p>
  27. <hr size=3>
  28. <p>
  29. <h2><a name="BP">Backplot</a></h2>
  30. <ul>
  31. <li> Babylon 4 was stolen by people from the future, apparently at Sinclair's
  32. behest during that time period, to act as a base of operations in a
  33. tremendous war being fought between the forces of light and darkness.
  34. <li> Sinclair will be a great leader, possibly <em>the</em> leader, of the
  35. forces of light in that war.
  36. <li> <a name="BP:flash">At some point,</a> long before he participates in
  37. Babylon 4's disappearance, Sinclair will flee a place (most likely
  38. Babylon 5, cf.
  39. <a href="013.html">"Signs and Portents"</a>)
  40. that is about to be overrun by some evil creatures. Garibaldi will stay
  41. behind to fight, but will force Sinclair to leave. A
  42. <a href="020.flash.html">transcript</a>
  43. of the scene in question is available.
  44. <li> The Grey Council stopped the war because of a prophecy. Valen (a
  45. revered figure, see
  46. <a href="#JS:valen">jms speaks</a>)
  47. said that humans, or some among them, had a destiny with which the
  48. Minbari could not be allowed to interfere.
  49. <li> Delenn is on Babylon 5 to study humanity, to determine whether the
  50. prophecy is correct.
  51. </ul>
  52. <h2><a name="UQ">Unanswered Questions</a></h2>
  53. <ul>
  54. <li> Will Babylon 4 appear again? If so, when?
  55. <li> Was it really Sinclair in the suit? If not, who or what was it?
  56. <li> What was Sinclair trying to prevent from happening?
  57. <li> Who was waiting for Delenn and Sinclair?
  58. <li> Will Delenn keep her position on the council?
  59. <li> What is the purpose of the triluminary?
  60. <li> What was happening in Sinclair's flashforward? Who or what was
  61. attacking the station? Is it related to the destruction of the station
  62. as foretold in
  63. <a href="013.html">"Signs and Portents?"</a>
  64. <li> What was the crazed man referring to when he shouted about "monsters"
  65. and said, "I see you... you think I can't?" (see
  66. <a href="#AN:inv">Analysis</a>)
  67. <li> Is the Grey Council's cruiser the same place Sinclair was taken during
  68. the Battle of the Line? (cf.
  69. <a href="008.html">"And the Sky Full of Stars"</a>)
  70. <li> Why is Delenn so convinced she must remain on Babylon 5, even at the
  71. risk of her standing in the Council?
  72. <li> What "change" does Delenn believe is coming?
  73. </ul>
  74. <h2><a name="AN">Analysis</a></h2>
  75. <ul>
  76. <li> None of the races have demonstrated an ability to travel through
  77. time. Yet within Sinclair's lifetime, such technology will either
  78. be developed, discovered, or introduced by people from the distant
  79. past or future. Does it exist already? If so, who has it?
  80. Zathras' people may be the ones to provide the technology.
  81. <li> The voice that speaks to Sinclair sounds like Delenn's, but her face is
  82. intentionally not shown. Presumably there is a reason for that;
  83. Delenn may be due to change in some way that will alter her appearance.
  84. <li> After Babylon 4 completes its time jump, a voice (presumably a
  85. computer) announces that the atmosphere was breathable. Why wasn't
  86. it breathable before? Zathras clearly had no trouble breathing in
  87. the past, so is something about the future Sinclair different that
  88. prevents him from breathing a normal atmosphere?
  89. <li> In the past, when we've seen Grey Council members, they have had silver
  90. triangles on their foreheads
  91. (<a href="008.html">"And the Sky Full of Stars"</a>
  92. and
  93. <a href="013.html">"Signs and Portents"</a>
  94. during Morden's visit to Delenn.) Yet no such triangles were visible
  95. this time. What do the triangles mean, and what causes them to
  96. appear? (see
  97. <a href="#JS:triangle">jms speaks</a>)
  98. <li> <a name="AN:inv">The attacking force</a>
  99. in Sinclair's vision of the future seemed to be invisible.
  100. Witness the fact that Garibaldi's men were firing in seemingly random
  101. directions, as if they didn't know where the enemy was. It also seems
  102. unlikely that they'd use a flamethrower if they could aim at their
  103. opponents. When the unknown force finally cut through the wall, it
  104. was forced inward, but nothing could be seen forcing it. This also
  105. explains what the crazed man on B4 was talking about; he'd seen
  106. visions of a battle against invisible foes too.
  107. <p>
  108. The only instance of invisibility seen in the series up until this
  109. episode was in
  110. <a href="007.html">"The War Prayer,"</a>
  111. and it was developed by the Earth Alliance military, suggesting
  112. perhaps that the attackers might be humans.
  113. <li> Garibaldi flashed back to an event two years earlier. That may
  114. suggest that Sinclair's flashforward (if indeed that's what it was)
  115. was to two years in the future, which would put the scene somewhere
  116. in the year 2260, season three of the series.
  117. </ul>
  118. <h2><a name="NO">Notes</a></h2>
  119. <ul>
  120. <li> Babylon 4 is larger than Babylon 5.
  121. </ul>
  122. <h2><a name="JS">jms speaks</a></h2>
  123. <ul>
  124. <p>
  125. <li> The one I'm most looking forward to writing just now, though, is
  126. "Babylon Squared," in which we finally show what happened to Babylon
  127. 4, and in the process ask more questions than we answer (though at
  128. least we DO answer the questions we asked about the fate of that
  129. station in general...you'll know what happened to it, just not yet
  130. what it means). The end of this episode will cause more speculation
  131. and consternation and astonishment than anything you've seen on TV in
  132. a long, long, very long time.
  133. <p>
  134. <li> What a weird day...filming "Babylon Squared," and one minute I'm
  135. standing in the anteroom/hallway of a Minbari cruiser that leads into
  136. the Great Hall and the chambers of the Grey Council...a few minutes
  137. later I'm standing in a section of Babylon 4, and the whole atmosphere
  138. of the crew is *very* different, the whole sensibility is strange...
  139. very strange.
  140. <p>
  141. "Babylon Squared" has a *very* different look to it, and a very eerie
  142. and foreboding feel about it, which I like a lot. Jim Johnston, who
  143. directed "Soul Hunter" and several others is doing it. Very moody.
  144. <p>
  145. <li> Yesterday, I got the final air-check versions of "Babylon Squared"
  146. and "Chrysalis" to QC before delivering them to PTEN. Watched both
  147. of them three times in the same day. They're just stunning.
  148. Probably the two best episodes of the entire season.
  149. <p>
  150. <li> Yes, you will see the Major Conflict that leads to the situation with
  151. Babylon 4. We're building toward a massive conflagration here.
  152. <p>
  153. <li> Yes, you will definitely, at some point, see the flip side of the
  154. B2 episode.
  155. <p>
  156. <li> No, actually, B2 was structured for maximum jarring effect, thus the
  157. sudden cuts back and forth, the sickly green light in B4...makes the
  158. person watching feel unexplainably anxious, which was a subliminal
  159. but definite intent. So no, nothing much was cut. And yes,
  160. eventually we will see the flip-side of the B4 story.
  161. <p>
  162. <li> In B-squared, we saw the present
  163. events in the vanishment of B4; in a future episode, we'll actually see
  164. our characters make the decision to go back in time and yank B4 forward,
  165. what went wrong, and so on.
  166. <p>
  167. <li>@@@877971397 <em>The One's suit was very similar to the suits in
  168. "2001."</em><br>
  169. Re: the suit...that wasn't an intentional 2001 nod...we went to
  170. Modern Props to get a space suit for Babylon Squared, and the only one
  171. they had on hand that would work for us was one left-over from 2010,
  172. which I asked the folks in costume to change as much as
  173. possible...though it was pretty much what it was regardless. So that
  174. one wasn't intentional.
  175. <p>
  176. <li> Nope; Zathras is one of his race, which aren't offspring of any
  177. other two groups.
  178. <p>
  179. <li> When Zathras shows up in time, it'll definitely be recognizeable as
  180. Zathras.
  181. <p>
  182. <li> B5 is smaller than B4 because they sunk most of
  183. their budget into B4; on B5 they had to get outside
  184. funding, and scrimped.
  185. <p>
  186. <li> B1-B4 were located in roughly the same sector, with B4 using some of
  187. the materials from 1-3 leftover. B5 was constructed about 3 hours
  188. (traveling time in real-space) from the location of B4.
  189. <p>
  190. <li> No commander had yet been assigned to Babylon 4. One Major Krantz
  191. had been assigned to oversee the final stages of construction, and
  192. was on board -- along with about 1300 others in the construction
  193. crew -- when the station vanished. The station had only been on-
  194. line 24 hours, and the discussions of a commanding officer had just
  195. begun when it disappeared.
  196. <p>
  197. <li> Major Krantz wasn't so much in charge of B4 as he was (as noted in
  198. dialogue) assigned to oversee the final stages of construction. His
  199. job was to get the station finished, then turn it over to someone
  200. else to run.
  201. <p>
  202. <li> <a name="JS:triangle"><cite>Why no triangles on the Council's
  203. heads?</cite></a>
  204. <br>
  205. While the triangle is one element of the Grey Council
  206. symbology, it is not present and visible at all times and
  207. under all circumstances; it has a particular purpose or
  208. meaning.
  209. <p>
  210. <li> The triangle only manifests itself for specific reasons, at specific
  211. times, neither of which were appropriate to that moment. And yes,
  212. the Triluminary is much cooler...and does something quite interesting.
  213. <p>
  214. <li> <a name="JS:valen">Valen</a> was the one who brought Minbari
  215. civilization together, he is their Christ-figure. And yes, the
  216. heavyset Grey Council member is the same one as in "Sky."
  217. <p>
  218. <li>@@@840129143 <em>Does the Grey Council live permanently on that
  219. ship?</em><br>
  220. They stay on the cruiser almost entirely during their tenure in
  221. the council, only leaving for personal family crisis/situations and the
  222. like.
  223. <p>
  224. <li> <cite>Garibaldi's closing lines in Sinclair's flashforward are
  225. reminiscent of "Aliens."</cite><br>
  226. When you're shooting a show, invariably you get to the stage and
  227. find that you have, for instance, three lines, one per character in the
  228. room...and you're trying to get them out the door, and it moves better
  229. if you give one line to one character and the other two to the other
  230. character. That sometimes happens. But rarely. In the Garibaldi's
  231. yell case, it was written as a quick shot, he yells and we're out. The
  232. director wanted to extend the shot a bit, visually. I wasn't in the
  233. studio at the time, so Jerry improvised a series of yells.
  234. <p>
  235. This sort of thing is *extremely* rare on the show; the actors and
  236. directors know they *cannot* change dialogue on the set without approval
  237. from me or Larry. On any given script, no more than about 3-6 lines get
  238. modified for staging purposes once we get to the set. And always with
  239. approval required. This is an absolute, hard and fast rule. The only
  240. reason the Garibaldi thing happened is that they figured it was just a
  241. yell, so nothing could get messed up story-wise (which is the primary
  242. reason this is so strict; change one word in a line and it could screw
  243. up plot points three episodes down the road) by having him yell a few
  244. specific lines. If I'd been there for that scene, I would've written
  245. him something a little less reminiscent of "Aliens."
  246. <p>
  247. <li> The script called for Garibaldi to take up the Big Massive Gun and
  248. fire, with a primal YELL that went on forever. Any dialogue at that
  249. point which replaced the yell came from the actor. The "you're
  250. already dead" was only relevant to the scene, not T2.
  251. <p>
  252. <li> Re: Garibaldi in the flash-forward scene...no, it wasn't any kind of
  253. "homage" to Aliens. (And for the most part, I try and stay clear of
  254. any kind of homage unless it's primarily a throwaway; I want my story
  255. to be MY story, not a bunch of homages.)
  256. <p>
  257. The single most moving kind of story for me is the "last man on the
  258. bridge"...the last defender who has to hold the line while others get
  259. away, knowing he will probably not survive it. This has great power
  260. for me, and for many others, which is why it shows up again and again
  261. in films, literature, TV and other venues. The Garibaldi scene has
  262. NOTHING to do with Aliens, and everything to do with that figure.
  263. <p>
  264. Re: *why* it is that humans are special...has nothing to do with
  265. sacrifice, or dedication (well, that's not quite true, it has
  266. something to do with it), but that's not the totality of it. There's
  267. one more element you don't know about yet, that won't be revealed
  268. until season two, episode one, "Points of Departure." Once you see
  269. that episode, you'll fully understand that there is one very
  270. particular thing about humans that is very special indeed.
  271. <p>
  272. <li> I kinda *have* to play fair with the story; if you hear Delenn's
  273. voice, then you can be sure it's Delenn.
  274. <p>
  275. In one form or another.
  276. <p>
  277. <li> "So who IS the One? Some of the evidence points to Sinclair, but
  278. other bits seem to indicate Delenn. Yet neither seems to fit all the
  279. facts above."
  280. <p>
  281. Exactly.
  282. <p>
  283. What you have here in your message are two pieces of the puzzle.
  284. You're confounded by the fact that somehow they don't quite seem to fit
  285. into one another. That's because there's one last piece missing in this
  286. part of the picture, which fits in between them. The intent is to put
  287. this piece into clear view in year three, probably between episodes 8
  288. and 11 approximately. At that point, the question of the One will be
  289. fully answered.
  290. <p>
  291. <li> Re: Sinclair as the One...funny how all this time very few folks have
  292. really commented much on how it was that Zathras could look right into
  293. Sinclair's face and say, "NOT the One."
  294. <p>
  295. <li> <em>Garibaldi's eyes glow for one frame in the flashforward scene.</em>
  296. <br>
  297. (sigh) Our rotoscope EFX guy was waiting for a bunch of PPG EFX to
  298. finish rendering in that battle scene, and was bored, and like many
  299. such EFX types, filled in the eyes of Garibaldi with weird stuff
  300. while waiting around. When the other scene finished rendering, he
  301. got out, believing that he had not saved that one frame. Unknowingly,
  302. he had.
  303. <p>
  304. Nobody caught it until after broadcast.
  305. <p>
  306. We talked.
  307. <p>
  308. <li> "It has been divulged that Sinclair is coexisting in a parallel
  309. dimension Babylon 4."
  310. <p>
  311. Actually, this has *not* been divulged...what it is is a speculation
  312. based on an offhand comment by Michael at a convention. I jump in
  313. here only because, well, that ain't it. B4 is not in an alternate
  314. dimension, neither is there an alternate Sinclair. Just a course
  315. correction to the discussion.
  316. <p>
  317. <li> With only one exception, you won't see time travel anywhere in the
  318. five-year run of the B5 story.
  319. <p>
  320. <li> <em>Which do you do first?</em><br>
  321. Fasten, button.
  322. <p>
  323. Levi's Jeans forever!
  324. <p>
  325. <li> <em>Why wasn't Franklin delivering the autopsy report?</em><br>
  326. Garibaldi is head of security, and Franklin would likely give him the
  327. report, which Garibaldi then relays. In such things there is a chain
  328. of command. And as you say, it seemed pointless to bring in the actor
  329. just for one half-page scene.
  330. <p>
  331. <li> <em>Credits for two Gray Council members?</em><br>
  332. Mark Henrickson was the...rounder of the two Minbari. The one with
  333. the staff wanted to go uncredited.
  334. <p>
  335. No real reason, he just felt it would be better for the character
  336. to remain mysterious; and since it really wasn't a big part, it
  337. wouldn't make a real difference one way or another in his credits and
  338. resume. (I know that sounds weird, but as near as I can determine,
  339. that's the reason. He did a great job, and we're looking forward to
  340. having him again.)
  341. <p>
  342. <li> <cite>Does the triluminary have anything to do with the sculpture in
  343. Delenn's quarters?</cite><br>
  344. Yes, the Triluminary does have a function in the
  345. device she's been making.
  346. </ul>