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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 1 Aug 1994 01:58:19 -0400
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Subject: Minbari = Mri?
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No, I did not use "The Faded Sun" as (to quote you) "a source when
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(I) created the Minbari."
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That's called plagiarism.
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And now I'm going to vent for a moment.
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Why the fuck is it that every time a TV writer comes up with
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something, everybody scurries to figure out what book or short story it
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was swiped from? That standard is virtually never applied to novels that
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I've seen. But it always comes to us TeeVee types.
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I have a brain, you know. I'm perfectly capable of thinking up
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stuff on my own. I've published novels. I've published short stories.
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I've written plays. I've never read ANY of Cherryh's work that I can
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recall.
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Instead of suggesting something was cribbed, all you needed to say
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was, "So, JMS, where did you get the name Minbari?"
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And I would've told you that a "minbar" is the name for a pulpit in
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a Mosque. The first time I heard that, I thought it would be great as a
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name for an alien or an alien planet. And the people who would live there
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would be called Minbari.
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Not everything that comes out of TV is cribbed, okay?
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End of venting.
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If I seem a bit pissed, it's not specifically directed at you but at
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the general sense that TV writers have the creative capacity of blowfish
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and are incapable of creating *anything* on their own. (And you weren't
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pointing to just the name but to the whole concept and parts thereof.) I
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don't mean to flame, but I've heard it enough over the years, and I'm
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getting a little tired of it.
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Every TV writer gets it, and almost no prose writer does, and that's
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simple discrimination and stereotyping.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:29:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: Minbari = Mri?
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Aaron, re: Heinlein...now that's comedy....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:34:54 -0400
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Subject: JMS: What was ? "Voice 1"
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That was a replacement part for a section of the station; they were
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being given final instructions on placement from C&C.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:56:26 -0400
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Subject: Question
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Yes, I would think it fair to say that the Minbari have a thing for
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triangles and things that come in threes.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:57:51 -0400
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Subject: UK: BAMN
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Re: who is Rush Limbaugh....
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Leading American proctologist.
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Trust me.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:14 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Dirt on the Lens!!! (Mini
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My suspicion is that the shows are sent to the UK via parcel, not
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via satellite, but that's only an assumption.
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Won't be starting production formally until August 10th. Gearing
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up now.
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Re: satellite...one of the more interesting stories I've heard lately
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is that B5 is *very* popular via satellite...in Iran and Iraq, both of
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whom lay claim of one sort or another to the original Babylon. Apparently
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that a Westerner has set a series in their well-remembered Babylon that
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is NOT a negative thing but a positive thing has got both countries quite
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pleasantly astonished.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:17 -0400
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Subject: JMS: response to your Mri vent
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To nick.plummer...Nicholas...you're quite right, of course, that
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ideas do not grow in a vacuum. Everyone in SF stands on the shoulders of
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those who went before. Heinlein invented slidewalks; after that, they
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were all OVER SF. But for the most part, they're background elements, or
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sort of the collective unconscious of SF; the line comes when taking a
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race wholecloth and just filing off the serial numbers (or, in this case,
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some vowels).
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We try to walk a fine line on this show, between being as original
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and innovative as we can...while once in a while giving a nod of respect
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and acknowledgment to those who preceded us (like the Prisoner). My
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only suggestion, in future, is that such issues (as we say in Jeapordy)
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be phrased in the form of a question, rather than an allegation.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:19 -0400
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Subject: JMS: "Free Mars" in "A Voice i
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Re: was the Free Mars movement a nod to Kim Stanley Robinson's
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Mars books....
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I take your question as polite, and supportive, and genuinely
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curious, and so I answer back: no, the thread was nowhere tied to Kim's
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work. Rather it grew out of a sense of history, looking at the tradition
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of colonies to outgrow their founders, and want to strike out on their
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own. The United Kingdom being a good example of this.
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Having now answered politely, I return to my closet to stick very
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long needles into my eyes....
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jms
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(Nothing to do with you, just the tenor of the day and messages
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preceding.)
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 02:00:43 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Spoo!?!
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What is spoo? Spoo....is.
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(Spoo is also Oops spelled backward.)
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 04:21:45 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Are You Going to Con
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Eric...nothing would gladden my heart more than if the B5 pilot
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won a Hugo (except the series winning a Hugo, which I think is a bit
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likelier, maybe). It is the highest compliment that can be paid by the
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SF community of readers and viewers. But one must be realistic, and I
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just don't see it outpulling Jurassic Park in the ballotting. JP is the
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proverbial 500 pound gorilla. Or the 50,000 pound T-Rex.
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While we are only small mammals....granted we're mammals with guns
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and an attitude, of course....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 2 Aug 1994 04:21:47 -0400
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Subject: JMS Re: <*> Cryptic message to
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...or, y'all are just fucking with me....
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jm(where's my passport?)s
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 3 Aug 1994 01:26:26 -0400
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Subject: Why Babylon?
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Before it fell into depravity, Babylon was a center of commerce, and
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culture, and trade, and diplomacy.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 6 Aug 1994 20:50:35 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Is this really you?
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I haven't seen the message, but that's my ID#, so that much is true.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 02:44:03 -0400
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Subject: JMS: You're Back
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Peter Jurasik is *definitely* back as Londo for year two. The
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show continues on. The rumor is false.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:08:45 -0400
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Subject: "Babylon Squared" - Some thoug
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Re: Garibaldi in the flash-forward scene...no, it wasn't any kind of
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"homage" to Aliens. (And for the most part, I try and stay clear of any
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kind of homage unless it's primarily a throwaway; I want my story to be MY
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story, not a bunch of homages.)
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The single most moving kind of story for me is the "last man on the
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bridge"...the last defender who has to hold the line while others get
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away, knowing he will probably not survive it. This has great power for
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me, and for many others, which is why it shows up again and again in
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films, literature, TV and other venues. The Garibaldi scene has NOTHING
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to do with Aliens, and everything to do with that figure.
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Re: *why* it is that humans are special...has nothing to do with
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sacrifice, or dedication (well, that's not quite true, it has something
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to do with it), but that's not the totality of it. There's one more
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element you don't know about yet, that won't be revealed until season two,
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episode one, "Points of Departure." Once you see that episode, you'll
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fully understand that there is one very particular thing about humans that
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is very special indeed.
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And yes, we did see the Grey Council guy in "Squared" who also showed
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up in "Sky."
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:16:53 -0400
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Subject: JMS: You BLOW my mind!!!!
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Yes, you will see the Major Conflict that leads to the situation with
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Babylon 4. We're building toward a massive conflagration here.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:09 -0400
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Subject: Creation's False B5 info
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The speakers at Creation have a habit of running their mouths when
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they don't have a clue what the facts are. I've already had to yell at
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them once in the last couple weeks, stating that Michael York had been
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selected as the new Commander. Now this. Frankly, I wouldn't believe a
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word they say about *anything*.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:12 -0400
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Subject: Untitled
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I really don't know what the "B5 lovers" thing *is*, let alone how
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to get you in touch with them.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:15 -0400
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Subject: JMS: IS BACK! Questions!
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Sheridan wasn't on the Line. Have several options for his middle
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name, haven't decided which to use yet. Chrysalis is still for October.
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And we've got plenty of scripts on hand currently; we wanted the same as
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last year, 6, in hand when we began shooting. We've got that.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:17 -0400
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Subject: Windows .AVI of intro
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I cannot comment on this sort of thing.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:19:40 -0400
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Subject: Recent Threads: two thoughts
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Molly: assumptions right on both counts.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:41:11 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Babylon**2 question (spoi [noticing similarity with "2001" suit]
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Yeah, I guess there are some similarities, aren't there?
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:55:23 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Will every episode be rer
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I think the majority of eps will have been rerun by "Chrysalis." And
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all that remain after "Babylon Squared" to be aired are that one, and "The
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Quality of Mercy."
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:28:54 -0400
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Subject: Bye Bye Babylon: CANCELLATION
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Which station are you referring to in your local market? To my
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knowldge only the Cincinatti station has done this, and we're working on
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them.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:28:57 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Babylon^2 Question
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The triangle only manifests itself for specific reasons, at specific
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times, neither of which were appropriate to that moment. And yes, the
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Triluminary is much cooler...and does something quite interesting.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:14:18 -0400
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Subject: JMS: et all, PSI-Corps Questio
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Re: who psi's can marry...this question is already being dealt with
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in an episode tentatively titled "The Customer is Always Right."
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(season two)
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:14:20 -0400
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Subject: Re: Creation's False B5 info
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It's my understanding that the "information" about O'Hare was fed to
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Creation by -- big surprise -- someone associated with Paramount/ST. You
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know, they could save themselves *endless* embarrassment (particularly in
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the "York is new commander" kind of situation, which caused them to send
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letters/faxes to all their "hosts") if they would, oh I dunno...maybe CALL
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US for information rather than taking stuff off the grapevine, particularly
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from anyone with Paramount.
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(I've also heard just recently that allegedly Paramount is leaning on
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those who've directed ST episodes, who are free agents and not under any
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kind of general contract, *not* to direct B5. We've already had one such
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incident of withdrawl after we'd made arrangements and all parties had
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agreed to the director doing an episode for us.)
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 10 Aug 1994 05:46:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: Plaster-cast of G'Kar.
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The plaster bust of G'Kar stolen from the B5 offices right before we
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began shooting Year One is still missing. And again, if this ever shows
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up at a dealer's room, know that it is stolen merchandise and there is a
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police report listing it as such.
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Anyone buying this will be buying stolen merchandise.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:12:02 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Any new sets for season 2
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We've done a lot of work on the sets; refurbished, made better, put
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in windows that look out onto the Garden, expanded...and built some new
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sets, including an officer's club, a Bazaar, and other sets. We took a
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blood oath: each year, bigger and better.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:12:05 -0400
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Subject: ?? for Joe (B^^2 SPOILERS) [G's flashback seeing Lise]
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The two flashbacks were designed so that they could run in any order
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(something you have to consider in syndication). You get a slightly
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different "feel" from seeing them in a different order, but it still works.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 10 Aug 1994 19:08:37 -0400
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Subject: Watching others watch...
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Hey, as somebody once pointed out, we are vast, we contain
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multitudes...we are a mass of contradictions. So our characters should
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be the same.
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jms
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(And thanks.)
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:03 -0400
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Subject: JOE AT SAN DIEGO (3) (MIN
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Neither panel was listed on my badge, and I only learned about
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them later, after they were over.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:06 -0400
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Subject: > > JMS & All: Worldcon B5 pa
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My replies, for the panel, in brief:
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What works? What doesn't? (Most things, some things.)
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Can B5 become another Star Trek? (God I hope not.)
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Succumb to second season syndrome? (Year 2 scripts even better.)
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B5 reflect politics of the 90s? (No. I hate the politics of the 90s.)
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Survive its 5 year story? (That's up to you.)
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How handle the inevitable B5/ST comparisons? (They're not
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inevitable. They're inevitable only if you choose to make them so. )
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Action/Character/Special EFX vs. good writing. (Action and
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character are part of good writing, you don't separate them. EFX must
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be in the service of the story.)
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Comparisons with X-Files. (See above.)
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TV SF's "last best hope." (Only if you've learned that the
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universe will implode in 4 years.)
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Why like/dislike it? ("If you like that sort of thing, it's the
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sort of thing you'll like." Abraham Lincoln.)
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Plot or SFX more important? (Neither. Character first. Then
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plot. Then SFX.)
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Why human female characters still 2-dimensional? (Don't agree with
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the premise. They're not. Are you still beating your wife?)
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:08 -0400
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Subject: (ATTN JMS, others) Newbies
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Dan: thanks, good points all. And as you say, patience is key to
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newbie-greeting. Sometimes when I've been up 20 hours, it's hard, but
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will work harder at it come schooltime.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 12 Aug 1994 00:51:02 -0400
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Subject: B5 Writing, following a master
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It is *all* designed to tie together. Nothing is just tossed in
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arbitrarily. Again, the best comparison is a novel. The few freelance
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writers on the show (I wrote 12 last season) are given specific guidelines
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on what to include to tie stuff together later.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 12 Aug 1994 15:51:35 -0400
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Subject: JMS: LENN? and Comments
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Re: Delenn/Lennier...there are certain recurring composites and
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word-segments that show up frequently in Minbari language (as in Rathenn,
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mentioned in "Voice 1," which resonates with Delenn). I've worked out a
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system for this, though it's probably not as complex as it should be.
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And thanks for your kind words.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:39:37 -0400
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Subject: Why are the Starfury launch ba
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The outside of the bays are wrapped around and triangular, kind of
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like cobra heads.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:41:03 -0400
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Subject: JMS: a casting question...
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We do tend to try and stay open to gender stuff; usually there's a
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reason why someone is male or female, so it's cast that way. But as an
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example...in "Quality of Mercy," the role as originally written was for a
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father/daughter combination. In the process of casting, we thought, why
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not mother/daughter? So that's how it ended up. In "Points of Departure,"
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we have one of your requests already taken care of...a part of a war
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cruiser commander who could've been male or female...cast female.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 14 Aug 1994 00:15:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: <*> <*>
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I've decided youze guys are just messing with my mind.
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Returning the favor, so to speak.
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It's certainly been that kind of week...first a file vanishes on my
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computer, we need to print it, and it's gone...then I can see it again,
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no explanation...I get a messengered packet from Chris Franke, expecting
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it contains a tape, but it's flat and soft and I peek inside and I don't
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see a tape and toss it, wondering what he's up to now...the coffee machine
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isn't working right...everybody's messing with me, so why not here?
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 14 Aug 1994 00:38:57 -0400
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Subject: Babylon Squared --- Way to Go
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"How are you going to top this one, JMS?"
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Chrysalis.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 14 Aug 1994 17:26:33 -0400
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Subject: JMS: A few minor questions...
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Promoting Ivanova to running the station would not be logical, since
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from a military and diplomatic standpoint she has nowhere *near* the level
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of experience required. It wouldn't be done in real life.
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G'Kar wasn't needed for the last few eps; he'll show up again in
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"Chrysalis," and a lot next season.
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I think there'll be a tech manual eventually.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 14 Aug 1994 17:58:51 -0400
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Subject: <*> Joe really need a clue
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I'm not sure I understand...if there was anything in the package,
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I didn't notice it, and so just tossed the envelope. It's gone. Why?
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Was there something I should've known?
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 15 Aug 1994 03:28:28 -0400
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Subject: Re: **Spoiler: Chrysalis**
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There's a couple ships look like Earthforce 1.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 15 Aug 1994 16:03:56 -0400
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Subject: JMS: CFPL in London, Ontario,
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Unfortunately, this sort of thing is outside my direct purview. The
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best way to deal with this is on the local level, with letters and calls.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:37:43 -0400
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Subject: Babylon Squared, Part II
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Yes, you will definitely, at some point, see the flip side of the
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B2 episode.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:37:46 -0400
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Subject: Can JMS pull it off?
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If I didn't have a good, solid, consistent ending, I wouldn't have
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started the story. I always have the ending before I begin writing the
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beginning.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 16 Aug 1994 03:51:29 -0400
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Subject: Re: <*> Joe really need a clu
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Okay, okay, okay, hold off the frantic email...I WUZ ONLY KIDDING!
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I got the card from everybody, and I thank you for it. It was a
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wonderful gesture. But I *had* to get back at y'all for the weeks of
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grief leading up to it, yes?
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Thanks. Really.
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And don't do it again.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 16 Aug 1994 21:07:14 -0400
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Subject: JMS: What to Watch for in Reru
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Scenes you should look at differently after "Chrysalis"...one that
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comes to mind offhand is "Sky," in the various Garibaldi scenes (can't be
|
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more specific than that right now).
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 16 Aug 1994 22:21:23 -0400
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Subject: JMS and the net
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Best thing about the net is that it forces you to ask questions. The
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job of the writer is to come up with every possible question about your
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character and your world, and answer it, giving both greater
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verasimilitude. But nobody can come up with EVERY conceivable question;
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but on the nets, you get questions you never *dreamed* of. Which helps.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:31:57 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Don't do it!!!!!
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I'm trying to make the B5 novels and comics as much canon as I can.
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Basically, they take place within B5 continuity, as episodes that might
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have been. The first four issues of the comic deal with issues that hit
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the series, but from another point of view/location. The novel uses B5
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as background of an event that makes sense within B5 continuity, and may
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be referred to in future episodes (not as a requirement, but only as
|
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background...no different than when you have to give background on any
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episode of stuff that's happened in the past, like Ironheart's escape,
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for instance, which we don't have to see/read about, but knowing is nice).
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I *really* don't want these to be just throwaways media-tie-ins. I
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want them to stand on their own as good work, *and* be part of our
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universe.
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Thankfully, I no longer require sleep, and have transcended to a
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higher state of consciousness...ommmmmm....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:48:13 -0400
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Subject: Question for JMS
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Fasten, button.
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Levi's Jeans forever!
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:48:19 -0400
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Subject: JMS lying? (was Re: Voyager Ca
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If Sinclair was simply to be *gone*, we had *plenty* of time to
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edit OUT the scene in B4 that you saw and refer to. It was self-contained,
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occupied only about 30 seconds, and could've been easily deleted (we ran
|
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long on that episode, and cut a shot of Delenn leaving the Minbari
|
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cruiser setting course for B5, which could easily have been put into
|
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the show in that scene's absence). We only delivered that episode a few
|
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weeks before airdate, and the news re: Sinclair was announced MONTHS
|
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before that, while we were still in the process of editing it. (And we
|
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can make changes literally up to a week or so before delivery.)
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We could've deleted it, and left it a mystery, just as with Sigma
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957. We're not afraid to do that.
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In addition, the first four issues of the B5 comic will NOT be about
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the new Captain, they will be about *Sinclair*, and where he is, and where
|
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he's gone, and what he's doing. Since at this point it would be
|
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hideously expensive to show that in the series, we're doing it in the
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comic. And will continue to do it from time to time in the comic, AND in
|
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occasional shots in the series.
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This is NOT what you do when the network comes to you and says, "We
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want this guy GONE." When that happens, he's *gone*, period.
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No, people should not believe everything they are told.
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Nor should you assume that everyone is lying all the time.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:42:15 -0400
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Subject: JMS:Mephisto in Space?
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While the TP themes in "Quality" go back through the history of SF,
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including the Demolished Man, among others, the basic storyline (re:
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Talia) came out of the pilot. At the time, I was asked -- frequently --
|
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"Why didn't Lyta scan Sinclair to determine if he had tried to kill
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Kosh?" My answer then -- which is in some of the archives -- was that
|
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it would violate the right to due process, that a defendant cannot be
|
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scanned to determine guilt or innocence (in fact, I recall a rather
|
|
heated debate about that here a while back). I promised that this would
|
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be elaborated upon down the road, and mentally logged in to do a show
|
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with that premise...and I'd already decided about the death penalty, and
|
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the use of telepaths in it. So "Quality" came out of that, long before
|
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"Mephisto" was even written. At one point, knowing that there were some
|
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common story areas, I called Harlan to tell him the "Quality" story, so
|
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that if there were any problems, I could revise it, but he said he saw
|
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no problem.
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jms
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Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:08:45 -0400
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:06:12 -0400
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Subject: "Mercy" -- SPOILERS of course
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They cannot carry out the original sentence because the body is
|
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now dead, which would tend to diminish its social acceptability.
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Dr. Franklin did not know that Mueller had yet found Rosen, or even
|
|
knew of it. There are no Babcom systems in DownBelow quarters. To send
|
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a security team, when they're out searching, without cause, is neither
|
|
realistic nor sensible. He did the correct thing: to go and warn her,
|
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while at the same time making sure that security knew where he was going,
|
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and if they didn't hear anything, to send in a team.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:06:22 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Give us a chance!
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I think participants of this usenet group should be given a chance to
|
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come to your house, Paul,and tell you how to make love as a group project.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 19 Aug 1994 20:11:19 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Lose the Hyperion. Bad De
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That design will never be seen again.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 20 Aug 1994 04:37:49 -0400
|
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Subject: What if a crucial actor/actres
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|
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No, that sort of thing can't be done on an episodic TV budget; when
|
|
time comes to do the flip side of Bsquared, we'll integrate the first
|
|
season footage, but the second part hasn't yet been shot.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
|
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Date: 20 Aug 1994 04:43:21 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Na'Toth casting?
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|
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The woman who will be playing Na'Toth next season is Mary Kay Adams;
|
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we're introducing a character who will be a Squad Leader for Zeta
|
|
Squadron (the one that arrived in "Survivors"), Warren Keffer, which will
|
|
be portrayed by Robert Russler. (Many people noted that logically you
|
|
would have a regular squad leader as well as in some situations the
|
|
Commander going out, and most times it's the Squad Leader who's out there
|
|
doing this kind of stuff. And they're correct.)
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
|
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Date: 21 Aug 1994 04:10:25 -0400
|
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Subject: A message to jms
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Thanks. All of us involved in Babylon 5 work very hard at it, and
|
|
your words of encouragement are a great help.
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|
|
As an aside...the first season isn't *quite* over. Our final
|
|
episode, "Chrysalis," will be aired the week before the second season
|
|
proper begins, figure the last Wednesday or so in October.
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I think you'll find it most intriguing....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
|
|
Date: 23 Aug 1994 06:16:36 -0400
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Subject: [B5] Liar liar pants on fire..
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|
|
|
Normally, this thread wouldn't even be worth my time to respond,
|
|
moreso since I missed the original message, and can only see the replies.
|
|
But that said...maybe because I've been up nearly 30 hours breaking my
|
|
back on this show, to try and provide an occasional hour's entertainment,
|
|
and I'm cranky, I figured I'd just say a few quick things.
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|
|
Unlike Mr. Glover, who I believe is the same person who's been
|
|
spreading this "JMS is lying about everything" crap on various nets,
|
|
including Fidonet, every post that I have written about Babylon 5 for
|
|
the last *three years* has been archived, organized, filed, and indexed
|
|
for easy reference. I would suggest that in three years of his own posts,
|
|
you would probably find lots of contradictions in Mr. Glover's posts. He
|
|
is free from this kind of scrutiny. I am not.
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|
|
That said...if I were running around fibbing left, right and center,
|
|
as he implies, because there *is* that vast pool of material, it would've
|
|
been caught out *ages* ago. I know that everything I write gets saved, and
|
|
thus it behooves me to be as *abolutely* correct in what I write as I
|
|
humanly can be. From time to time, as the story has progressed, I've
|
|
refined a small character point or two, but overall I've been pretty
|
|
damned consistent.
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|
|
|
And I have been *particularly* consistent in what I have said about
|
|
Michael O'Hare. I have said that it was mutual and amicable. I said that
|
|
we came to him first. Those are not, as Mr. Glover would suggest, mutually
|
|
contradictory statements. Someone has to go first.
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|
|
|
And let me just toss a note in Mr. Glover's direction...what the fuck
|
|
is it to you what happens between Michael O'Hare and his employer in the
|
|
privacy of their offices? Suppose for the moment he quit because he saw
|
|
me courting his pet chicken...what the fuck is it to you? Who says you're
|
|
entitled to ANY information? How'd you like it if we went digging out
|
|
information on how your employer treats you? On why you were fired from
|
|
your last job? What business is it of mine? None. What business is this
|
|
of yours? None. Except that you have no apparent life but that which you
|
|
obtain through what you see on TeeVee, in the belief that somehow, by
|
|
virtue of certain phosphor-dots resting on your corneas for a few seconds,
|
|
we owe you *anything*. We don't. Bugger off.
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|
|
|
As for Larry DiTillio...I showed him what was posted on this net
|
|
from his apperance at LosCon, and he was *very* upset by the quotes, in
|
|
his sense that they misrepresented what he had said.
|
|
|
|
I have yet to see the alleged quotes where I changed my story on
|
|
something. I don't think they exist.
|
|
|
|
I think that by describing the majority of viewers here as
|
|
"sycophants" who "hang on (my) every word)", Mr. Glover attempts right off
|
|
the bat to discredit anyone who might disagree with him. He insults every
|
|
member of this discussion in so doing, and I take great exception to that.
|
|
Anyone who disagrees with Mr. Glover is either a liar, or a sycophant.
|
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|
Sod off, Mr. Glover.
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|
|
And Mr. Glover also over-estimates not only his own importance, but
|
|
the importance of this system in terms of ratings. If you added up every
|
|
single person who reads this forum, and all those on GEnie, Compuserve,
|
|
(AOL and Prodigy on bounce-back), NVN, Bix and all the rest...it wouldn't
|
|
be even a *blip* on the ratings. Wouldn't even show up. I'm here only
|
|
because I want to be, and because -- despite the occasional Gloverite who
|
|
trudges his way in here to sneer at people -- it's fun to hang out.
|
|
|
|
And I am not "A SALESMAN." I am a writer. I'm not here to sell
|
|
anybody anything. The people who come here are those who watch the show
|
|
to begin with; those who watch Baywatch and have no interest in B5 don't
|
|
come in here. There's no point in singing to the choir. Many of those
|
|
here are those who've already decided they like the show...and others are
|
|
certainly more than free with their criticism.
|
|
|
|
On another system, the indefatigable Mr. Glover commented that I
|
|
MUST be lying about O'Hare, because after all if I ever admitted that
|
|
someone walked off the show on their own, I'd be in trouble with Warner
|
|
Bros, and I was thus protecting my ass. And I think it was about a week
|
|
later that I mentioned, on my own, that Caitlin Brown was going off the
|
|
show, on her own, because she wants to do feature-film starring roles.
|
|
Boy, I must be some kinda feeb to admit that in public, because I gots to
|
|
protect my ass....
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|
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I said it because it was true.
|
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|
|
One of the primary reasons I'm here is to try and educate people
|
|
about how TV is done. When I did the series of articles on the new TZ
|
|
series for Twilight Zone magazine, I made it a point to include the good
|
|
and the bad and the ugly, otherwise it has no worth. I've come on here
|
|
and said which episodes of B5 were great, and which I wouldn't mind if
|
|
all copies of the negative fell off a pier; I've stated when actors have
|
|
left on their own, and when we've changed our minds about them, and when
|
|
deals have fallen through; I've been as hard on the show as anyone else.
|
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|
|
But for Eugene Glover, whose own life is notably sheltered from
|
|
public view, this is insufficient, and his own prejudices and internal
|
|
bile levels, as indicated by the quotes from him, pursuade him that I am
|
|
a liar.
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|
|
Piss off, Eugene. You're a mean, vindictive little guttersnipe who
|
|
has nothing better to do than piss in other people's punchbowls, absent of
|
|
any perceptible life, overwhelmed with your own feelings of self
|
|
importance and righteousness, when in reality you simply suffer from
|
|
delusions of adequacy. I rarely use this kind of term, due to its basic
|
|
offensiveness to SF/ST fans...but Eugene...get a life, get a grip, get a
|
|
clue, but most of all...get away.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
|
|
Date: 23 Aug 1994 15:12:45 -0400
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|
Subject: JMS:Are you about to LOSE the
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|
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I really don't know the ins and outs of the Detroit situation; I'll
|
|
try and find out a bit more.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
|
|
Date: 24 Aug 1994 03:53:49 -0400
|
|
Subject: JMS: Set suggestion
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|
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The end of the central corridor was a painting; correct. And I never
|
|
liked it. So over the break, we *built* another 15 or so feet to the
|
|
end of the corridor, going up, so now it's quite real, and we can put
|
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stuff in there. Much improved.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
|
|
Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:22:39 -0400
|
|
Subject: Thoughts on a close rewatch of
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|
One lovely thing about "Signs and Portents," which you picked up on,
|
|
is something I like to play with; implying one thing while saying the
|
|
opposite. Look at all the shadow's main representative, Morden, does: he
|
|
asks people what they want; he gets tossed out of Delenn's quarters; he
|
|
is pleasant in his demeanor at all times, never yells, always smiles, and
|
|
is courteous; he takes an action which saves one of our main characters,
|
|
Londo, from disgrace and resignation, and helps in the process of scragging
|
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the bad guys in the episode.
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|
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And yet everyone walks away thinking that the shadows are bad. Which
|
|
was of course the intent...by the way in which they did "good."
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|
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Kosh prevents humanity from achieving immortality, scares the hell out
|
|
of Talia, never gives anyone a straight answer, doesn't seem to mind it if
|
|
people fear him...and we walk away with the presumption that he is good,
|
|
by virtue of the way in which he did things that were "bad."
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|
|
In "The Quality of Mercy," I play a similar subtle game; the first
|
|
time you hear about the alien device, you're told that it takes the life
|
|
force from one person, killing them in the process, and gives it to
|
|
someone suffering a terminal disease to restore them. And everybody goes
|
|
"yuck, that's awful." But that is *exactly* what happens at the end, and
|
|
the general reaction is, "That's good."
|
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|
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This is something I do a lot in my scripts, which I don't generally
|
|
see a lot of other people doing. You *really* have to construct the
|
|
script very carefully to pull something like this off...a little game
|
|
between me and the audience.
|
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
|
|
Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:27:02 -0400
|
|
Subject: JMS! Episode Titles
|
|
|
|
I think the double-titles would screw up the methods by which the
|
|
residuals are tracked for writers/directors/actors.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:32:45 -0400
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Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
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Ah, so Glover's message was originally posted in the alt section,
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where I wouldn't/couldn't see it, and wouldn't have known about it at all
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had there not been the reply here that somehow bounced.
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Well, isn't that convenient....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:14:33 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Liars and Flames
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Thanks; I'm not sure sometimes if this is a good skill or not. Not
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only had I been up about 30 hours, but because of the way my GEnie news
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reader/mailbox is set up, I can only reply *on-line*, I can't go off,
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compose off-line, then upload it...it all has to be written on the fly.
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(Maybe it comes from being a Jersey street kid, basically; we used to
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hang out on street corners, ranking each other for *hours*, each one
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according to the rules having to build upon the one preceding, until they
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got amazingly elaborate. Or maybe I'm just a pain in the ass.)
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That said, I try very hard *not* to do that. I don't think it's a
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good thing in the long run. I see a *lot* of abusive posts, and most of
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them I let slide simply because it seems the wiser path. But every once
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in a while, somebody'll poke the bear, and it'll be late, and they'll be
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completely out of line...and something snaps and next thing I know I'm
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110 lines deep into something and my monitor is imploding.
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As for *why* I was up 30 hours straight...Claudia Christian broke
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her foot over the weekend. Broke it in *three places*, no less, while
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running in her back yard. She had a lot of action in the next couple of
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scripts, and was in the midst of filming an episode currently. So the
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scripts had to be revised to work around this, and as stated, we were
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shooting one, and about to shoot another, and it *all* had to be done in
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zero time. By me. Basically, we're talking about rewriting two full
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scripts in a couple of days, after which I was half blind and staggering.
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So I was just a bit cranky that night....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:14:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
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Morgan...there is a quantum difference between being called a liar,
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and receiving criticism on a story. If you cannot see that, that is your
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problem, not mine.
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"If it wasn't worth your time, then why did you respond?"
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Because I felt like it. However, to the rest of your points, which
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are specious and irrelevant, I don't feel like it tonight. I will instead
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go along with your question, "why respond?"
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Good suggestion.
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Particularly when applied to your message.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:38:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
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Jim...re: your reply to Morgan...there is a curious neticism that
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I've seen all the years I've been riding the nets, and it's nothing new.
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It's this: Person A writes something awful/scandalous/abusive about
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person B. Person C says nothing. Person B writes a heated reply. Person
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C *now* speaks up to say what bad form it is to go after this poor person
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who was just exercising his right to speak, and suddenly person B is the
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bad guy.
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It's okay to impugne someone's career, or life, or honesty, or any
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other aspect...but to call the person out for it...no, no, we can't have
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that. Nonsense. There is nothing in my agreement with any service that
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says I must be a non-responsive, unmoving target. A bully is a bully, and
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needs to get responded to. And character attacks must be responded to,
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whether or not some people (who had no problem with the original
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accusation) find it polite conversation.
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Say what you want about somebody...but god forbid the person should
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speak up...an intersting philosophy, to say the least.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:38:35 -0400
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Subject: Change in Rerun of Believers
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There were no changes in dialogue made in "Believers" subsequent to
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the first airing.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 25 Aug 1994 22:10:26 -0400
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Subject: JMS: 2nd season writing proces
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It's impossible not to have the characters change to varying degrees
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once you cast actors to play them. Gradually, Mira's personality has
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grown into Delenn, Andreas has added a lot to G'Kar, Garibaldi IS Doyle,
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and Boxleitner is bringing a lot to Sheridan. You get to hear the
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characters' voices more the deeper you go, season-wise, and that's great.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 26 Aug 1994 05:28:32 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Musical Themes?
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We've done a lot with themes over the season, and plan to do more,
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developing themes for all our characters. I like interpolating bits and
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pieces of the B5 theme into parts of the show; the lower-key version at
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the end of "Signs" has always struck me as very effective.
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jms
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(meant to type "minor key."
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:02:16 -0400
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Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
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Michael Heser...I don't just respond to flame-bait. I respond to
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something on the order of 100 messages a day, out of the 500 per day that
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I get. In this one pass on Internet via my GEnie mailbox, I've just
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written about 15 so far, and I've got a bunch more to go through. (And
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not one was a flame.) This is an aberration, nothing more, and I do
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reserve the right to plink somebody upside the nose if he gets
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obnoxious. The occasional aberration is good for you (now if only I could
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convince my wife of that...).
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:02:29 -0400
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Subject: JMS: new movie?
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Correct, I will be writing the screenplay for the GRIMJACK movie,
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which will draw heavily on John Ostrander's story for the Demon Blood and
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Demon Wars stories. Whether or not new books are coming I don't know.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:19:54 -0400
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Subject: Parallelism in TKO (Possible S
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Yes, there are many subtle parallels between the two story elements,
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as you note. At its core, is the use of tradition, and respect, as a
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means for greater understanding.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 27 Aug 1994 21:51:10 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Conventions
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At this point, beyond the Dallas con, and LosCon, nothing much is
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planned....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 01:05:48 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Some comments on your "no
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Actually, there are varying religions within the alien species as
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well; G'Kar is a follower of G'Quan, while Na'Toth's father followed
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G'Lan, and Na'Toth herself doesn't really believe in anything (this as
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noted in "By Any Means Necessary"). So that diversity isn't strictly or
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exclusively human.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:19:38 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Warners' Wishlist
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I don't recall ever mentioning any memo from PTEN "suggesting that
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something be done with the commander or year two, even if just a bunch of
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commander-centered episodes." Warners/PTEN said that they would like to
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see a bit more character-oriented stories, which was jake by me because
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that's what we were aiming for anyway. By virtue of being at least
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nominally an action/adventure show, there was always some sense that we
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had to have a lot of running around; now they're giving us the freedom to
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have more latitude, which by me is terrific. They've given us no other
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notes.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:34:36 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Some questions...
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You will see the healing machine from "Quality" once more. Part of
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the reason for that story was to set up something within the B5 universe
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that will come in handy a long time later (but I'm *not* going to have it
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lying around indefinitely; it would cause lots of long-term complications).
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(Some TV shows foreshadow/set-up stuff an act or two ahead of time;
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we do setups a full *year* ahead....)
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Never saw "Star Blazers," so the Valen name has no relation there.
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No idea on coming laserdisk prices.
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When Zathras shows up in time, it'll definitely be recognizeable as
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Zathras.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:40:08 -0400
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Subject: JMS:B5/LSH Parallels Follow-Up
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Re: the now-mandatory Psi badge in LSH...yeah, I noticed that too.
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If it is indeed a nod in our direction -- and spontaneous duplication is
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also always a possibility -- it's actually fun, from my POV.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:44:22 -0400
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Subject: Re: JMS: LSH/B5 parallel post-
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This one to Kurt Bose...
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"We heard about how everything and its mother was derived in some
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manner from the ideas this hack was pitching around Hollywood."
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So now I'm a hack. Tell me, Kurt, what have *you* done with your
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life? I won't post my feelings about my work because that's subjective;
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but the nominations for Writers Guild, Bram Stoker, Ace and Gemini Awards
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over there on the wall might have a thing or two to say about this...or
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the Emmy for Best Animated Series the year I story edited The REal
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Ghostbusters...or the Inkpot Achievement Award from the San Diego Comic
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Convention...or the recent award from the Space Frontier Foundation for
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Best Vision of the Future...shall I go on?
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To the point of what your screed said in this part...no, I have never
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said what you pillory me for saying. I have certain very strong feelings
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about an incident with another series, but that's just the one. You say
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"We heard about how everything and its mother was derived in some manner"
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from my work...please cite me where I have said this about anything else.
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Or I can save you the time...you won't find any, because they aren't
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there.
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This is trait #1 of the net-bully...come up with an outrageous
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statement that someone never made, and then assault them for it. Seen it.
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"We heard all about how in HIS show, they weren't going to simply
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make all the aliens look like actors in funny makeup. Well suprise, all
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the aliens look like humans in funny makeup."
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Error #1: once again, I never said it. I said we were going to work
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to avoid the funny-forehead scenario with full-head prosthetics. This we
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have done.
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Second, as earth-shattering to your perspective as this may be, there
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are currently no real aliens that we know of living on Earth. No matter
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HOW elaborate the makeup, you're going to have an actor in makup (unless
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you're doing puppets, as a rule, and this isn't a puppet show). Show me
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any movie or series where the main alien characters have been other than
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puppets or actors in makup, funny or otherwise.
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Third...we are the *first* TV SF series to introduce a computer
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graphic alien, in "Grail," and we plan to do more of this next season.
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"We were treated to comments from JMS like "Sinclair should really go
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over well with the ladies." (This in reference to being cast on sex
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appeal.) I'm sorry, but this comment is so boneheaded and contradictory
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and illogical that I can't even begin to respond.
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Re: "no cute kids or robots," I was referring specifically to regular
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cast members. We do not have cute kids as regular cast members. And we
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de-emphasize kids in guest-casting. In our entire first season we have
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had two, one in a B-story, and the other we killed off. I don't see the
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problem which is making you so apoplectic in this.
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"If JMS is really saying these things, doing these things, then he's
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insane."
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And, of course, I didn't, and haven't been. You're seeing them only
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in whatever alternate universe you're experiencing through prolonged
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exposure to your computer monitor's EMF.
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"What I've heard about here and elsewhere makes me feel that his
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'pariah' routine of the put-upon genius whose work is shamelessly copied
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makes me wonder if there are REASONS for the role he's adopted."
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First, see response #1. Never said it. What "you've heard" has no
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bearing whatsoever on objective reality. Nor am I responsible for what
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may or may not have been posted on other nets by people other than me. I
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am only responsible for what I say. And what I say is generally archived
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somewhere, so actually checking the *facts* (I know, another foreign
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concept) is extraordinarily easy to do. This you didn't do.
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Second: never adopted a pariah attitude; never felt like one; never
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said any such thing. Are you feeling okay? Are things all right at
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home? Do you hear spirit voices at night whispering into your ears the
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things that you'd have *liked* me to have said? A helpful suggestion: if
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these voices ever tell you to go save France...don't do it. I've seen
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that movie, you wouldn't like the ending.
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Finally, what are these REASONS you're wondering about? Nothing like
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a little vague innuendo and then zoom-flash out the back door. Speak
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plainly. You got something to say, say it.
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(And in a note prior, when someone noticed the LSH telepath pin, I
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commented that it was probably spontaneous duplication/simultaneous
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creation. My first impulse, despite your willingness to attribute to me
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some fanatical attitude, is that it wasn't a lift. My second reaction, as
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written, is that if it was inspired by the Psi Corps, that it's really
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kinda cool...SF literature builds on itself, as with Heinlein coming up
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with slidewalks, which were then used by others. I think it'd be cool if
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Psi Corps style badges started showing up in LSH; it'd mean that I added
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something to the genre.)
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Okay..now let's see...I read through all the notes, responded in a
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manner without profanity, and ....oh, dear.
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No profanity.
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Can't have that. So really, Kurt, and I say this with the love of
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Jesus in my heart...go fuck yourself.
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And next time you want to go around calling someone a "hack," be
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prepared to let us all examine *your* work, okay?
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:14:03 -0400
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Subject: Send not thine tales for death
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It does seem unfortunate that we seem to have to go through this
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fire drill every few months. Look...the reality is, we manage to go
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through 500 or so messages a day (well, *I* go through them), and very
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rarely, in ALL the discussion and speculation, does anything come close
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to being a story idea. As I commented on GEnie, at 500 messages a day,
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seven days a week (3500 messages a week, counting all the various
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services I'm on), this has only become a problem *five times*.
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But five times is five times, and it never hurts to put out a
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reminder...because it's due to those reminders that it HAS been only five
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times. Absent those reminders, it would've been more, that you can count
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on.
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No one is here begruding the rights of people to speculate and
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discuss, least of all me. You don't generally see me out here pounding
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down on people...the discussions here are very freewheeling, which is as
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it should be. This is the one little area that I ask be set aside, and
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I just don't see it as a problem.
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And I *do* wish that people wouldn't get bogged down in the legalities
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of all this. On one level, while that's the core reason I made the
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request in the first place, what it comes down to is just courtesy. I am
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here for hours each day, unlike any other TV producer, every day, and all
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I ask, as a courtesy, is no story ideas being posted. When did we as a
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culture hit a point where a request as a courtesy was no longer valid,
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and everything had to be accompanied by legalistic wrangling and court
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orders?
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I ask this one thing as a favor, in return for the hours spent here.
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Is this really so great a burden? If people want to discuss story ideas,
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or come up with their own stories, all they have to do is set up a
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private mailing list to which I don't have access, and they can do so to
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their heart's content. All I ask is that you don't do it where I can see
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it.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:14:12 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Season two episode order?
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Episode 1 - Prod. #201 - "Points of Departure," written by jms,
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directed by Janet Greek.
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Episode 2 - Prod. #202 - "Revelations," written by jms, directed by
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Jim Johnston.
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Episode 3 - Prod. #203 - "The Geometry of Shadows," written by jms,
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directed by Mike Vejar.
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Episode 4 - Produ. #204 - "A Distant Star," written by D.C. Fontana,
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directed by Jim Johnston.
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Episode 5 - Prod. #205 - "The Long Dark," written by Scott Frost,
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director TBA.
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Episode 6 - Prod. #206 - "A Spider in the Web," written by Lawrence
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G. DiTillio, director TBA.
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The first six will be aired in production order.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:15:43 -0400
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Subject: Careful with those story ideas
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One clarification: the problem on GEnie wasn't speculation per se,
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but a statement, "How about if Joe does a story about...." That in
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particular turned it (unintentionally, but there it is) into a pitch of a
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story idea.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:02:48 -0400
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Subject: Who all should get letters pra
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Letters can be sent to B5 staff and routed to Warners/PTEN through:
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14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:19 -0400
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Subject: How important to the Arc is Sh
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How critical was Aragorn to the storyline of Lord of the Rings?
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:28 -0400
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Subject: JMS: How many eps?
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This is from memory, but after we broke down the stories for the
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second season, and determined who we'd need for what stories, I think it
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came out to 22 each for Sheridan, Ivanova, Garibaldi, Delenn and
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Franklin; 13 for Na'Toth, Vir, Talia, G'Kar and Londo; and 8 for our new
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squadron leader. (Oops, forgot 13 also for Lennier.) Now these are the
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minimum contracted for, we can use them for more as they're needed.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:37 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Her.?
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The line, "If I knew who God was, I'd thank her," was as written in
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the script. We generally don't allow much improvisation on stage.
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Many thanks.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 29 Aug 1994 03:35:16 -0400
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Subject: Syndication Question
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Okay, I'll try to make this coherent and brief, two concepts that
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don't necessarily relate.
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Here's how it works with B5, which is how virtually all syndicated
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shows work.
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I created B5. Went to Doug Netter, made a handshake deal to make the
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series. Five years pass. Finally we hook up with PTEN. PTEN buys the
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rights to B5, and owns it. They then finance the production of the series
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through Babylonian Productions, which I and Doug own. But the copyright
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to B5 belongs to PTEN, as Star Trek has always belonged to Paramount, not
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Gene R. Rights don't revert to anyone; the rights belong to PTEN unless
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PTEN should cancel the series, after which I believe there's a period of
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about two years, after which it *then* comes back to me.
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As long as PTEN exists, and the show is broadcast, it belongs to
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PTEN, regardless of how many times it's shown. I don't know, or pretend
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to know, what would happen if PTEN ceased to exist, though I'm sure that
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procedures have been set up such that the revenue stream would continue to
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the original parties in PTEN, and the corporation itself would continue as
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a means of funnelling those funds.
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Warners doesn't own PTEN per se; PTEN is a consortium of a core group
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of TV stations in association with Warners, and this executive committee
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votes funding on the show.
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We are in some ways an unusual situation in that we're not a studio
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in-house production, like KUNG FU and TIME TRAX, which were created from
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within the Warners corporate structure.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 29 Aug 1994 03:36:47 -0400
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Subject: Old Red Eyes
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He'll be back soon enough....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 29 Aug 1994 18:54:06 -0400
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Subject: JMS: 'What do you want?' - nod
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Actually, the origin of "What do you want?" comes from encounter
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groups I've run, and from other kinds of group psychotherapy, such as the
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original Synanon games; you ask, "Who are you?" over and over, refusing
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to take the same answer twice, to peel away the fabric of what the
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person is. It's a slight jump to "What do you want?" (I knew that
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degree in Psychology would come in handy one of these days.)
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As for the B5 reference in "OtherSyde," I always knew it would be a
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series, because I've never allowed any other consideration.
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(I think B5 hits Australia later in the fall.)
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:13:08 -0400
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Subject: JMS: What is this .
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It came from the prop people at Warners/PTEN, who seem to be
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watching an alternate-universe version of the series....
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:07:06 -0400
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Subject: Sheridan
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Yes, Sheridan is descended from Gen. Philip John Sheridan of the
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Union Army.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:16:39 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Speaking of First Comics.
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I would *love* to do American Flagg! as a movie; I think it was
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probably Howard's best moment. I've read a lot of his stuff, but somehow
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after AF! it never did it for me as much as that one did. (And he
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certainly went...well, let's say where no comic has gone before...in Black
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Kiss.) I think the rights might be tied up, however.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:22:18 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Arcane story twists et al
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If you look at my scripts, you'll find that generally I write very
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tight, I don't leave a lot of threads hanging as a rule. Same with the
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planned series. No important threads will be left hanging by the end of
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it all. And generally any really significant thread will be wrapped within
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a year of being introduced.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 21:54:13 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Question????????????
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Medlab is the smaller facility exclusively for Dr. Franklin, as
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Chief of Staff. There are larger medical facilities, more like proper
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hospitals, elsewhere on the station.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 30 Aug 1994 22:01:11 -0400
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Subject: A note regarding "V" to jms
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I guess my attitude toward "V" the series (as distinguished from
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the miniseries, which was great) is colored by the rather contemptuous
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attitude of the producers toward SF, and SF fans, leading to their
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decision to bring on soap opera writers. I think they took a wonderful
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concept and just trashed it.
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jms
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From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
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Date: 31 Aug 1994 03:02:09 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: A few questions
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The script called for Garibaldi to take up the Big Massive Gun and
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fire, with a primal YELL that went on forever. Any dialogue at that
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point which replaced the yell came from the actor. The "you're already
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dead" was only relevant to the scene, not T2.
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jms
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