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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 1 Aug 1994 01:58:19 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Minbari = Mri? | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      No, I did not use "The Faded Sun" as (to quote you) "a source when | 
						
						
							|  | (I) created the Minbari." | 
						
						
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							|  |      That's called plagiarism. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And now I'm going to vent for a moment. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Why the fuck is it that every time a TV writer comes up with | 
						
						
							|  | something, everybody scurries to figure out what book or short story it | 
						
						
							|  | was swiped from?  That standard is virtually never applied to novels that | 
						
						
							|  | I've seen.  But it always comes to us TeeVee types. | 
						
						
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							|  |      I have a brain, you know.  I'm perfectly capable of thinking up | 
						
						
							|  | stuff on my own.  I've published novels.  I've published short stories. | 
						
						
							|  | I've written plays.  I've never read ANY of Cherryh's work that I can | 
						
						
							|  | recall. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Instead of suggesting something was cribbed, all you needed to say | 
						
						
							|  | was, "So, JMS, where did you get the name Minbari?" | 
						
						
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							|  |      And I would've told you that a "minbar" is the name for a pulpit in | 
						
						
							|  | a Mosque.  The first time I heard that, I thought it would be great as a | 
						
						
							|  | name for an alien or an alien planet.  And the people who would live there | 
						
						
							|  | would be called Minbari. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Not everything that comes out of TV is cribbed, okay? | 
						
						
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							|  |      End of venting. | 
						
						
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							|  |      If I seem a bit pissed, it's not specifically directed at you but at | 
						
						
							|  | the general sense that TV writers have the creative capacity of blowfish | 
						
						
							|  | and are incapable of creating *anything* on their own.  (And you weren't | 
						
						
							|  | pointing to just the name but to the whole concept and parts thereof.)  I | 
						
						
							|  | don't mean to flame, but I've heard it enough over the years, and I'm | 
						
						
							|  | getting a little tired of it. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Every TV writer gets it, and almost no prose writer does, and that's | 
						
						
							|  | simple discrimination and stereotyping. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                    jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:29:46 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: Minbari = Mri? | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Aaron, re: Heinlein...now that's comedy.... | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:34:54 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: What was ? "Voice 1" | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      That was a replacement part for a section of the station; they were | 
						
						
							|  | being given final instructions on placement from C&C. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                     jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:56:26 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Question | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Yes, I would think it fair to say that the Minbari have a thing for | 
						
						
							|  | triangles and things that come in threes. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:57:51 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: UK: BAMN | 
						
						
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							|  |      Re: who is Rush Limbaugh.... | 
						
						
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							|  |      Leading American proctologist. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Trust me. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                               jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:14 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Dirt on the Lens!!! (Mini | 
						
						
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							|  |      My suspicion is that the shows are sent to the UK via parcel, not | 
						
						
							|  | via satellite, but that's only an assumption. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Won't be starting production formally until August 10th.  Gearing | 
						
						
							|  | up now. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Re: satellite...one of the more interesting stories I've heard lately | 
						
						
							|  | is that B5 is *very* popular via satellite...in Iran and Iraq, both of | 
						
						
							|  | whom lay claim of one sort or another to the original Babylon.  Apparently | 
						
						
							|  | that a Westerner has set a series in their well-remembered Babylon that | 
						
						
							|  | is NOT a negative thing but a positive thing has got both countries quite | 
						
						
							|  | pleasantly astonished. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:17 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: response to your Mri vent | 
						
						
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							|  |      To nick.plummer...Nicholas...you're quite right, of course, that | 
						
						
							|  | ideas do not grow in a vacuum.  Everyone in SF stands on the shoulders of | 
						
						
							|  | those who went before.  Heinlein invented slidewalks; after that, they | 
						
						
							|  | were all OVER SF.  But for the most part, they're background elements, or | 
						
						
							|  | sort of the collective unconscious of SF; the line comes when taking a | 
						
						
							|  | race wholecloth and just filing off the serial numbers (or, in this case, | 
						
						
							|  | some vowels). | 
						
						
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							|  |      We try to walk a fine line on this show, between being as original | 
						
						
							|  | and innovative as we can...while once in a while giving a nod of respect | 
						
						
							|  | and acknowledgment to those who preceded us (like the Prisoner).  My | 
						
						
							|  | only suggestion, in future, is that such issues (as we say in Jeapordy) | 
						
						
							|  | be phrased in the form of a question, rather than an allegation. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:19 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: "Free Mars" in "A Voice i | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Re: was the Free Mars movement a nod to Kim Stanley Robinson's | 
						
						
							|  | Mars books.... | 
						
						
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							|  |      I take your question as polite, and supportive, and genuinely | 
						
						
							|  | curious, and so I answer back: no, the thread was nowhere tied to Kim's | 
						
						
							|  | work.  Rather it grew out of a sense of history, looking at the tradition | 
						
						
							|  | of colonies to outgrow their founders, and want to strike out on their | 
						
						
							|  | own.  The United Kingdom being a good example of this. | 
						
						
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							|  |      Having now answered politely, I return to my closet to stick very | 
						
						
							|  | long needles into my eyes.... | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
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							|  |      (Nothing to do with you, just the tenor of the day and messages | 
						
						
							|  | preceding.) | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 02:00:43 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Spoo!?! | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      What is spoo?   Spoo....is. | 
						
						
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							|  |      (Spoo is also Oops spelled backward.) | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 04:21:45 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Are You Going to Con | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Eric...nothing would gladden my heart more than if the B5 pilot | 
						
						
							|  | won a Hugo (except the series winning a Hugo, which I think is a bit | 
						
						
							|  | likelier, maybe).  It is the highest compliment that can be paid by the | 
						
						
							|  | SF community of readers and viewers.  But one must be realistic, and I | 
						
						
							|  | just don't see it outpulling Jurassic Park in the ballotting.  JP is the | 
						
						
							|  | proverbial 500 pound gorilla.  Or the 50,000 pound T-Rex. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      While we are only small mammals....granted we're mammals with guns | 
						
						
							|  | and an attitude, of course.... | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                      jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 2 Aug 1994 04:21:47 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS Re: <*> Cryptic message to | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      ...or, y'all are just fucking with me.... | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                jm(where's my passport?)s | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 3 Aug 1994 01:26:26 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Why Babylon? | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Before it fell into depravity, Babylon was a center of commerce, and | 
						
						
							|  | culture, and trade, and diplomacy. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 6 Aug 1994 20:50:35 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS:  Is this really you? | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      I haven't seen the message, but that's my ID#, so that much is true. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                    jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 02:44:03 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: You're Back | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Peter Jurasik is *definitely* back as Londo for year two.  The | 
						
						
							|  | show continues on.  The rumor is false. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                           jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:08:45 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: "Babylon Squared" - Some thoug | 
						
						
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							|  |      Re: Garibaldi in the flash-forward scene...no, it wasn't any kind of | 
						
						
							|  | "homage" to Aliens.  (And for the most part, I try and stay clear of any | 
						
						
							|  | kind of homage unless it's primarily a throwaway; I want my story to be MY | 
						
						
							|  | story, not a bunch of homages.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      The single most moving kind of story for me is the "last man on the | 
						
						
							|  | bridge"...the last defender who has to hold the line while others get | 
						
						
							|  | away, knowing he will probably not survive it.  This has great power for | 
						
						
							|  | me, and for many others, which is why it shows up again and again in | 
						
						
							|  | films, literature, TV and other venues.  The Garibaldi scene has NOTHING | 
						
						
							|  | to do with Aliens, and everything to do with that figure. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Re: *why* it is that humans are special...has nothing to do with | 
						
						
							|  | sacrifice, or dedication (well, that's not quite true, it has something | 
						
						
							|  | to do with it), but that's not the totality of it.  There's one more | 
						
						
							|  | element you don't know about yet, that won't be revealed until season two, | 
						
						
							|  | episode one, "Points of Departure."  Once you see that episode, you'll | 
						
						
							|  | fully understand that there is one very particular thing about humans that | 
						
						
							|  | is very special indeed. | 
						
						
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							|  |      And yes, we did see the Grey Council guy in "Squared" who also showed | 
						
						
							|  | up in "Sky." | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                  jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:16:53 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: You BLOW my mind!!!! | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Yes, you will see the Major Conflict that leads to the situation with | 
						
						
							|  | Babylon 4.  We're building toward a massive conflagration here. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:09 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Creation's False B5 info | 
						
						
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							|  |      The speakers at Creation have a habit of running their mouths when | 
						
						
							|  | they don't have a clue what the facts are.  I've already had to yell at | 
						
						
							|  | them once in the last couple weeks, stating that Michael York had been | 
						
						
							|  | selected as the new Commander.  Now this.  Frankly, I wouldn't believe a | 
						
						
							|  | word they say about *anything*. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                  jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:12 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Untitled | 
						
						
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							|  |      I really don't know what the "B5 lovers" thing *is*, let alone how | 
						
						
							|  | to get you in touch with them. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                   jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:15 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: IS BACK! Questions! | 
						
						
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							|  |      Sheridan wasn't on the Line.  Have several options for his middle | 
						
						
							|  | name, haven't decided which to use yet.  Chrysalis is still for October. | 
						
						
							|  | And we've got plenty of scripts on hand currently; we wanted the same as | 
						
						
							|  | last year, 6, in hand when we began shooting.  We've got that. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:17 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Windows .AVI of intro | 
						
						
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							|  |      I cannot comment on this sort of thing. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:19:40 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Recent Threads: two thoughts | 
						
						
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							|  |      Molly: assumptions right on both counts. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:41:11 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Babylon**2 question (spoi	[noticing similarity with "2001" suit] | 
						
						
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							|  |      Yeah, I guess there are some similarities, aren't there? | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:55:23 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Will every episode be rer | 
						
						
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							|  |      I think the majority of eps will have been rerun by "Chrysalis."  And | 
						
						
							|  | all that remain after "Babylon Squared" to be aired are that one, and "The | 
						
						
							|  | Quality of Mercy." | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:28:54 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Bye Bye Babylon: CANCELLATION | 
						
						
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							|  |      Which station are you referring to in your local market?  To my | 
						
						
							|  | knowldge only the Cincinatti station has done this, and we're working on | 
						
						
							|  | them. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                   jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:28:57 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Babylon^2 Question | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      The triangle only manifests itself for specific reasons, at specific | 
						
						
							|  | times, neither of which were appropriate to that moment.  And yes, the | 
						
						
							|  | Triluminary is much cooler...and does something quite interesting. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                 jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:14:18 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: et all, PSI-Corps Questio | 
						
						
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							|  |      Re: who psi's can marry...this question is already being dealt with | 
						
						
							|  | in an episode tentatively titled "The Customer is Always Right." | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                         (season two) | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                     jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:14:20 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: Creation's False B5 info | 
						
						
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							|  |      It's my understanding that the "information" about O'Hare was fed to | 
						
						
							|  | Creation by -- big surprise -- someone associated with Paramount/ST.  You | 
						
						
							|  | know, they could save themselves *endless* embarrassment (particularly in | 
						
						
							|  | the "York is new commander" kind of situation, which caused them to send | 
						
						
							|  | letters/faxes to all their "hosts") if they would, oh I dunno...maybe CALL | 
						
						
							|  | US for information rather than taking stuff off the grapevine, particularly | 
						
						
							|  | from anyone with Paramount. | 
						
						
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							|  |      (I've also heard just recently that allegedly Paramount is leaning on | 
						
						
							|  | those who've directed ST episodes, who are free agents and not under any | 
						
						
							|  | kind of general contract, *not* to direct B5.  We've already had one such | 
						
						
							|  | incident of withdrawl after we'd made arrangements and all parties had | 
						
						
							|  | agreed to the director doing an episode for us.) | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 10 Aug 1994 05:46:10 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: Plaster-cast of G'Kar. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      The plaster bust of G'Kar stolen from the B5 offices right before we | 
						
						
							|  | began shooting Year One is still missing.  And again, if this ever shows | 
						
						
							|  | up at a dealer's room, know that it is stolen merchandise and there is a | 
						
						
							|  | police report listing it as such. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Anyone buying this will be buying stolen merchandise. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:12:02 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Any new sets for season 2 | 
						
						
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							|  |      We've done a lot of work on the sets; refurbished, made better, put | 
						
						
							|  | in windows that look out onto the Garden, expanded...and built some new | 
						
						
							|  | sets, including an officer's club, a Bazaar, and other sets.  We took a | 
						
						
							|  | blood oath: each year, bigger and better. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                   jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:12:05 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: ?? for Joe (B^^2 SPOILERS)      [G's flashback seeing Lise] | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      The two flashbacks were designed so that they could run in any order | 
						
						
							|  | (something you have to consider in syndication).  You get a slightly | 
						
						
							|  | different "feel" from seeing them in a different order, but it still works. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 10 Aug 1994 19:08:37 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Watching others watch... | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Hey, as somebody once pointed out, we are vast, we contain | 
						
						
							|  | multitudes...we are a mass of contradictions.  So our characters should | 
						
						
							|  | be the same. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                     jms | 
						
						
							|  |     (And thanks.) | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:03 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JOE AT SAN DIEGO (3) (MIN | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Neither panel was listed on my badge, and I only learned about | 
						
						
							|  | them later, after they were over. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                          jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:06 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: > > JMS & All:  Worldcon B5 pa | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      My replies, for the panel, in brief: | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      What works? What doesn't?  (Most things, some things.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Can B5 become another Star Trek? (God I hope not.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Succumb to second season syndrome?  (Year 2 scripts even better.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      B5 reflect politics of the 90s?  (No.  I hate the politics of the 90s.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Survive its 5 year story?  (That's up to you.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      How handle the inevitable B5/ST comparisons?  (They're not | 
						
						
							|  | inevitable.  They're inevitable only if you choose to make them so. ) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Action/Character/Special EFX vs. good writing.  (Action and | 
						
						
							|  | character are part of good writing, you don't separate them.  EFX must | 
						
						
							|  | be in the  service of the story.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Comparisons with X-Files.  (See above.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      TV SF's "last best hope."  (Only if you've learned that the | 
						
						
							|  | universe will implode in 4 years.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Why like/dislike it?  ("If you like that sort of thing, it's the | 
						
						
							|  | sort of thing you'll like."  Abraham Lincoln.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Plot or SFX more important?  (Neither.  Character first.  Then | 
						
						
							|  | plot.  Then SFX.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Why human female characters still 2-dimensional?  (Don't agree with | 
						
						
							|  | the premise.  They're not.  Are you still beating your wife?) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:08 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: (ATTN JMS, others) Newbies | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Dan: thanks, good points all.  And as you say, patience is key to | 
						
						
							|  | newbie-greeting.  Sometimes when I've been up 20 hours, it's hard, but | 
						
						
							|  | will work harder at it come schooltime. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                          jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 12 Aug 1994 00:51:02 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: B5 Writing, following a master | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      It is *all* designed to tie together.  Nothing is just tossed in | 
						
						
							|  | arbitrarily.  Again, the best comparison is a novel.  The few freelance | 
						
						
							|  | writers on the show (I wrote 12 last season) are given specific guidelines | 
						
						
							|  | on what to include to tie stuff together later. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 12 Aug 1994 15:51:35 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS:  LENN? and Comments | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Re: Delenn/Lennier...there are certain recurring composites and | 
						
						
							|  | word-segments that show up frequently in Minbari language (as in Rathenn, | 
						
						
							|  | mentioned in "Voice 1," which resonates with Delenn).  I've worked out a | 
						
						
							|  | system for this, though it's probably not as complex as it should be. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And thanks for your kind words. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                    jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:39:37 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Why are the Starfury launch ba | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      The outside of the bays are wrapped around and triangular, kind of | 
						
						
							|  | like cobra heads. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                          jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:41:03 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: a casting question... | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      We do tend to try and stay open to gender stuff; usually there's a | 
						
						
							|  | reason why someone is male or female, so it's cast that way.  But as an | 
						
						
							|  | example...in "Quality of Mercy," the role as originally written was for a | 
						
						
							|  | father/daughter combination.  In the process of casting, we thought, why | 
						
						
							|  | not mother/daughter?  So that's how it ended up.  In "Points of Departure," | 
						
						
							|  | we have one of your requests already taken care of...a part of a war | 
						
						
							|  | cruiser commander who could've been male or female...cast female. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 14 Aug 1994 00:15:07 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: <*> <*> | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      I've decided youze guys are just messing with my mind. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Returning the favor, so to speak. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      It's certainly been that kind of week...first a file vanishes on my | 
						
						
							|  | computer, we need to print it, and it's gone...then I can see it again, | 
						
						
							|  | no explanation...I get a messengered packet from Chris Franke, expecting | 
						
						
							|  | it contains a tape, but it's flat and soft and I peek inside and I don't | 
						
						
							|  | see a tape and toss it, wondering what he's up to now...the coffee machine | 
						
						
							|  | isn't working right...everybody's messing with me, so why not here? | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 14 Aug 1994 00:38:57 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Babylon Squared --- Way to Go | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      "How are you going to top this one, JMS?" | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Chrysalis. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 14 Aug 1994 17:26:33 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: A few minor questions... | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Promoting Ivanova to running the station would not be logical, since | 
						
						
							|  | from a military and diplomatic standpoint she has nowhere *near* the level | 
						
						
							|  | of experience required.  It wouldn't be done in real life. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      G'Kar wasn't needed for the last few eps; he'll show up again in | 
						
						
							|  | "Chrysalis," and a lot next season. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      I think there'll be a tech manual eventually. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 14 Aug 1994 17:58:51 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: <*>  Joe really need a clue | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      I'm not sure I understand...if there was anything in the package, | 
						
						
							|  | I didn't notice it, and so just tossed the envelope.  It's gone.  Why? | 
						
						
							|  | Was there something I should've known? | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 15 Aug 1994 03:28:28 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: **Spoiler: Chrysalis** | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      There's a couple ships look like Earthforce 1. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                      jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 15 Aug 1994 16:03:56 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS:  CFPL in London, Ontario, | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |     Unfortunately, this sort of thing is outside my direct purview.  The | 
						
						
							|  | best way to deal with this is on the local level, with letters and calls. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                     jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:37:43 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Babylon Squared, Part II | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Yes, you will definitely, at some point, see the flip side of the | 
						
						
							|  | B2 episode. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                     jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:37:46 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Can JMS pull it off? | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      If I didn't have a good, solid, consistent ending, I wouldn't have | 
						
						
							|  | started the story.  I always have the ending before I begin writing the | 
						
						
							|  | beginning. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 16 Aug 1994 03:51:29 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: <*>  Joe really need a clu | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Okay, okay, okay, hold off the frantic email...I WUZ ONLY KIDDING! | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      I got the card from everybody, and I thank you for it.  It was a | 
						
						
							|  | wonderful gesture.  But I *had* to get back at y'all for the weeks of | 
						
						
							|  | grief leading up to it, yes? | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Thanks.  Really. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And don't do it again. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 16 Aug 1994 21:07:14 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: What to Watch for in Reru | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Scenes you should look at differently after "Chrysalis"...one that | 
						
						
							|  | comes to mind offhand is "Sky," in the various Garibaldi scenes (can't be | 
						
						
							|  | more specific than that right now). | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 16 Aug 1994 22:21:23 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS and the net | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Best thing about the net is that it forces you to ask questions.  The | 
						
						
							|  | job of the writer is to come up with every possible question about your | 
						
						
							|  | character and your world, and answer it, giving both greater | 
						
						
							|  | verasimilitude.  But nobody can come up with EVERY conceivable question; | 
						
						
							|  | but on the nets, you get questions you never *dreamed* of.  Which helps. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                      jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:31:57 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Don't do it!!!!! | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      I'm trying to make the B5 novels and comics as much canon as I can. | 
						
						
							|  | Basically, they take place within B5 continuity, as episodes that might | 
						
						
							|  | have been.  The first four issues of the comic deal with issues that hit | 
						
						
							|  | the series, but from another point of view/location.  The novel uses B5 | 
						
						
							|  | as background of an event that makes sense within B5 continuity, and may | 
						
						
							|  | be referred to in future episodes (not as a requirement, but only as | 
						
						
							|  | background...no different than when you have to give background on any | 
						
						
							|  | episode of stuff that's happened in the past, like Ironheart's escape, | 
						
						
							|  | for instance, which we don't have to see/read about, but knowing is nice). | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      I *really* don't want these to be just throwaways media-tie-ins.  I | 
						
						
							|  | want them to stand on their own as good work, *and* be part of our | 
						
						
							|  | universe. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Thankfully, I no longer require sleep, and have transcended to a | 
						
						
							|  | higher state of consciousness...ommmmmm.... | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |                                                                      jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:48:13 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Question for JMS | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Fasten, button. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Levi's Jeans forever! | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                           jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:48:19 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS lying? (was Re: Voyager Ca | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      If Sinclair was simply to be *gone*, we had *plenty* of time to | 
						
						
							|  | edit OUT the scene in B4 that you saw and refer to.  It was self-contained, | 
						
						
							|  | occupied only about 30 seconds, and could've been easily deleted (we ran | 
						
						
							|  | long on that episode, and cut a shot of Delenn leaving the Minbari | 
						
						
							|  | cruiser setting course for B5, which could easily have been put into | 
						
						
							|  | the show in that scene's absence).  We only delivered that episode a few | 
						
						
							|  | weeks before airdate, and the news re: Sinclair was announced MONTHS | 
						
						
							|  | before that, while we were still in the process of editing it.  (And we | 
						
						
							|  | can make changes literally up to a week or so before delivery.) | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      We could've deleted it, and left it a mystery, just as with Sigma | 
						
						
							|  | 957.  We're not afraid to do that. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      In addition, the first four issues of the B5 comic will NOT be about | 
						
						
							|  | the new Captain, they will be about *Sinclair*, and where he is, and where | 
						
						
							|  | he's gone, and what he's doing.  Since at this point it would be | 
						
						
							|  | hideously expensive to show that in the series, we're doing it in the | 
						
						
							|  | comic.  And will continue to do it from time to time in the comic, AND in | 
						
						
							|  | occasional shots in the series. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      This is NOT what you do when the network comes to you and says, "We | 
						
						
							|  | want this guy GONE."  When that happens, he's *gone*, period. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      No, people should not believe everything they are told. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Nor should you assume that everyone is lying all the time. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:42:15 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS:Mephisto in Space? | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      While the TP themes in "Quality" go back through the history of SF, | 
						
						
							|  | including the Demolished Man, among others, the basic storyline (re: | 
						
						
							|  | Talia) came out of the pilot.  At the time, I was asked -- frequently -- | 
						
						
							|  | "Why didn't Lyta scan Sinclair to determine if he had tried to kill | 
						
						
							|  | Kosh?"  My answer then -- which is in some of the archives -- was that | 
						
						
							|  | it would violate the right to due process, that a defendant cannot be | 
						
						
							|  | scanned to determine guilt or innocence (in fact, I recall a rather | 
						
						
							|  | heated debate about that here a while back).  I promised that this would | 
						
						
							|  | be elaborated upon down the road, and mentally logged in to do a show | 
						
						
							|  | with that premise...and I'd already decided about the death penalty, and | 
						
						
							|  | the use of telepaths in it.  So "Quality" came out of that, long before | 
						
						
							|  | "Mephisto" was even written.  At one point, knowing that there were some | 
						
						
							|  | common story areas, I called Harlan to tell him the "Quality" story, so | 
						
						
							|  | that if there were any problems, I could revise it, but he said he saw | 
						
						
							|  | no problem. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                         jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:08:45 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:06:12 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: "Mercy" -- SPOILERS of course | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      They cannot carry out the original sentence because the body is | 
						
						
							|  | now dead, which would tend to diminish its social acceptability. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Dr. Franklin did not know that Mueller had yet found Rosen, or even | 
						
						
							|  | knew of it.  There are no Babcom systems in DownBelow quarters.  To send | 
						
						
							|  | a security team, when they're out searching, without cause, is neither | 
						
						
							|  | realistic nor sensible.  He did the correct thing: to go and warn her, | 
						
						
							|  | while at the same time making sure that security knew where he was going, | 
						
						
							|  | and if they didn't hear anything, to send in a team. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:06:22 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Give us a chance! | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | I think participants of this usenet group should be given a chance to | 
						
						
							|  | come to your house, Paul,and tell you how to make love as a group project. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 19 Aug 1994 20:11:19 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Lose the Hyperion. Bad De | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      That design will never be seen again. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                       jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 20 Aug 1994 04:37:49 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: What if a crucial actor/actres | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      No, that sort of thing can't be done on an episodic TV budget; when | 
						
						
							|  | time comes to do the flip side of Bsquared, we'll integrate the first | 
						
						
							|  | season footage, but the second part hasn't yet been shot. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                        jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 20 Aug 1994 04:43:21 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Na'Toth casting? | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      The woman who will be playing Na'Toth next season is Mary Kay Adams; | 
						
						
							|  | we're introducing a character who will be a Squad Leader for Zeta | 
						
						
							|  | Squadron (the one that arrived in "Survivors"), Warren Keffer, which will | 
						
						
							|  | be portrayed by Robert Russler.  (Many people noted that logically you | 
						
						
							|  | would have a regular squad leader as well as in some situations the | 
						
						
							|  | Commander going out, and most times it's the Squad Leader who's out there | 
						
						
							|  | doing this kind of stuff.  And they're correct.) | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                  jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 21 Aug 1994 04:10:25 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: A message to jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Thanks.  All of us involved in Babylon 5 work very hard at it, and | 
						
						
							|  | your words of encouragement are a great help. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      As an aside...the first season isn't *quite* over.  Our final | 
						
						
							|  | episode, "Chrysalis," will be aired the week before the second season | 
						
						
							|  | proper begins, figure the last Wednesday or so in October. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      I think you'll find it most intriguing.... | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |                                                                           jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 23 Aug 1994 06:16:36 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: [B5] Liar liar pants on fire.. | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Normally, this thread wouldn't even be worth my time to respond, | 
						
						
							|  | moreso since I missed the original message, and can only see the replies. | 
						
						
							|  | But that said...maybe because I've been up nearly 30 hours breaking my | 
						
						
							|  | back on this show, to try and provide an occasional hour's entertainment, | 
						
						
							|  | and I'm cranky, I figured I'd just say a few quick things. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Unlike Mr. Glover, who I believe is the same person who's been | 
						
						
							|  | spreading this "JMS is lying about everything" crap on various nets, | 
						
						
							|  | including Fidonet, every post that I have written about Babylon 5 for | 
						
						
							|  | the last *three years* has been archived, organized, filed, and indexed | 
						
						
							|  | for easy reference.  I would suggest that in three years of his own posts, | 
						
						
							|  | you would probably find lots of contradictions in Mr. Glover's posts.  He | 
						
						
							|  | is free from this kind of scrutiny.  I am not. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      That said...if I were running around fibbing left, right and center, | 
						
						
							|  | as he implies, because there *is* that vast pool of material, it would've | 
						
						
							|  | been caught out *ages* ago.  I know that everything I write gets saved, and | 
						
						
							|  | thus it behooves me to be as *abolutely* correct in what I write as I | 
						
						
							|  | humanly can be.  From time to time, as the story has progressed, I've | 
						
						
							|  | refined a small character point or two, but overall I've been pretty | 
						
						
							|  | damned consistent. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And I have been *particularly* consistent in what I have said about | 
						
						
							|  | Michael O'Hare.  I have said that it was mutual and amicable.  I said that | 
						
						
							|  | we came to him first.  Those are not, as Mr. Glover would suggest, mutually | 
						
						
							|  | contradictory statements.  Someone has to go first. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And let me just toss a note in Mr. Glover's direction...what the fuck | 
						
						
							|  | is it to you what happens between Michael O'Hare and his employer in the | 
						
						
							|  | privacy of their offices?  Suppose for the moment he quit because he saw | 
						
						
							|  | me courting his pet chicken...what the fuck is it to you?  Who says you're | 
						
						
							|  | entitled to ANY information?  How'd you like it if we went digging out | 
						
						
							|  | information on how your employer treats you?  On why you were fired from | 
						
						
							|  | your last job?  What business is it of mine?  None.  What business is this | 
						
						
							|  | of yours?  None.  Except that you have no apparent life but that which you | 
						
						
							|  | obtain through what you see on TeeVee, in the belief that somehow, by | 
						
						
							|  | virtue of certain phosphor-dots resting on your corneas for a few seconds, | 
						
						
							|  | we owe you *anything*.  We don't.  Bugger off. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      As for Larry DiTillio...I showed him what was posted on this net | 
						
						
							|  | from his apperance at LosCon, and he was *very* upset by the quotes, in | 
						
						
							|  | his sense that they misrepresented what he had said. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      I have yet to see the alleged quotes where I changed my story on | 
						
						
							|  | something.  I don't think they exist. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      I think that by describing the majority of viewers here as | 
						
						
							|  | "sycophants" who "hang on (my) every word)", Mr. Glover attempts right off | 
						
						
							|  | the bat to discredit anyone who might disagree with him.  He insults every | 
						
						
							|  | member of this discussion in so doing, and I take great exception to that. | 
						
						
							|  |  Anyone who disagrees with Mr. Glover is either a liar, or a sycophant. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Sod off, Mr. Glover. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And Mr. Glover also over-estimates not only his own importance, but | 
						
						
							|  | the importance of this system in terms of ratings.  If you added up every | 
						
						
							|  | single person who reads this forum, and all those on GEnie, Compuserve, | 
						
						
							|  | (AOL and Prodigy on bounce-back), NVN, Bix and all the rest...it wouldn't | 
						
						
							|  | be even a *blip* on the ratings.  Wouldn't even show up.  I'm here only | 
						
						
							|  | because I want to be, and because -- despite the occasional Gloverite who | 
						
						
							|  | trudges his way in here to sneer at people -- it's fun to hang out. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |       And I am not "A SALESMAN."  I am a writer.  I'm not here to sell | 
						
						
							|  | anybody anything.  The people who come here are those who watch the show | 
						
						
							|  | to begin with; those who watch Baywatch and have no interest in B5 don't | 
						
						
							|  | come in here.  There's no point in singing to the choir.  Many of those | 
						
						
							|  | here are those who've already decided they like the show...and others are | 
						
						
							|  | certainly more than free with their criticism. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      On another system, the indefatigable Mr. Glover commented that I | 
						
						
							|  | MUST be lying about O'Hare, because after all if I ever admitted that | 
						
						
							|  | someone walked off the show on their own, I'd be in trouble with Warner | 
						
						
							|  | Bros, and I was thus protecting my ass.  And I think it was about a week | 
						
						
							|  | later that I mentioned, on my own, that Caitlin Brown was going off the | 
						
						
							|  | show, on her own, because she wants to do feature-film starring roles. | 
						
						
							|  | Boy, I must be some kinda feeb to admit that in public, because I gots to | 
						
						
							|  | protect my ass.... | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      I said it because it was true. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      One of the primary reasons I'm here is to try and educate people | 
						
						
							|  | about how TV is done.  When I did the series of articles on the new TZ | 
						
						
							|  | series for Twilight Zone magazine, I made it a point to include the good | 
						
						
							|  | and the bad and the ugly, otherwise it has no worth.  I've come on here | 
						
						
							|  | and said which episodes of B5 were great, and which I wouldn't mind if | 
						
						
							|  | all copies of the negative fell off a pier; I've stated when actors have | 
						
						
							|  | left on their own, and when we've changed our minds about them, and when | 
						
						
							|  | deals have fallen through; I've been as hard on the show as anyone else. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      But for Eugene Glover, whose own life is notably sheltered from | 
						
						
							|  | public view, this is insufficient, and his own prejudices and internal | 
						
						
							|  | bile levels, as indicated by the quotes from him, pursuade him that I am | 
						
						
							|  | a liar. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Piss off, Eugene.  You're a mean, vindictive little guttersnipe who | 
						
						
							|  | has nothing better to do than piss in other people's punchbowls, absent of | 
						
						
							|  | any perceptible life, overwhelmed with your own feelings of self | 
						
						
							|  | importance and righteousness, when in reality you simply suffer from | 
						
						
							|  | delusions of adequacy.  I rarely use this kind of term, due to its basic | 
						
						
							|  | offensiveness to SF/ST fans...but Eugene...get a life, get a grip, get a | 
						
						
							|  | clue, but most of all...get away. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                   jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 23 Aug 1994 15:12:45 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS:Are you about to LOSE the | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      I really don't know the ins and outs of the Detroit situation; I'll | 
						
						
							|  | try and find out a bit more. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                   jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 24 Aug 1994 03:53:49 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Set suggestion | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      The end of the central corridor was a painting; correct.  And I never | 
						
						
							|  | liked it.  So over the break, we *built* another 15 or so feet to the | 
						
						
							|  | end of the corridor, going up, so now it's quite real, and we can put | 
						
						
							|  | stuff in there.  Much improved. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                     jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:22:39 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Thoughts on a close rewatch of | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      One lovely thing about "Signs and Portents," which you picked up on, | 
						
						
							|  | is something I like to play with; implying one thing while saying the | 
						
						
							|  | opposite.  Look at all the shadow's main representative, Morden, does: he | 
						
						
							|  | asks people what they want; he gets tossed out of Delenn's quarters; he | 
						
						
							|  | is pleasant in his demeanor at all times, never yells, always smiles, and | 
						
						
							|  | is courteous; he takes an action which saves one of our main characters, | 
						
						
							|  | Londo, from disgrace and resignation, and helps in the process of scragging | 
						
						
							|  | the bad guys in the episode. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And yet everyone walks away thinking that the shadows are bad.  Which | 
						
						
							|  | was of course the intent...by the way in which they did "good." | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Kosh prevents humanity from achieving immortality, scares the hell out | 
						
						
							|  | of Talia, never gives anyone a straight answer, doesn't seem to mind it if | 
						
						
							|  | people fear him...and we walk away with the presumption that he is good, | 
						
						
							|  | by virtue of the way in which he did things that were "bad." | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      In "The Quality of Mercy," I play a similar subtle game; the first | 
						
						
							|  | time you hear about the alien device, you're told that it takes the life | 
						
						
							|  | force from one person, killing them in the process, and gives it to | 
						
						
							|  | someone suffering a terminal disease to restore them.  And everybody goes | 
						
						
							|  | "yuck, that's awful."  But that is *exactly* what happens at the end, and | 
						
						
							|  | the general reaction is, "That's good." | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      This is something I do a lot in my scripts, which I don't generally | 
						
						
							|  | see a lot of other people doing.  You *really* have to construct the | 
						
						
							|  | script very carefully to pull something like this off...a little game | 
						
						
							|  | between me and the audience. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                        jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:27:02 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS! Episode Titles | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      I think the double-titles would screw up the methods by which the | 
						
						
							|  | residuals are tracked for writers/directors/actors. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                   jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:32:45 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Ah, so Glover's message was originally posted in the alt section, | 
						
						
							|  | where I wouldn't/couldn't see it, and wouldn't have known about it at all | 
						
						
							|  | had there not been the reply here that somehow bounced. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Well, isn't that convenient.... | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                           jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:14:33 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS:  Liars and Flames | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Thanks; I'm not sure sometimes if this is a good skill or not.  Not | 
						
						
							|  | only had I been up about 30 hours, but because of the way my GEnie news | 
						
						
							|  | reader/mailbox is set up, I can only reply *on-line*, I can't go off, | 
						
						
							|  | compose off-line, then upload it...it all has to be written on the fly. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      (Maybe it comes from being a Jersey street kid, basically; we used to | 
						
						
							|  | hang out on street corners, ranking each other for *hours*, each one | 
						
						
							|  | according to the rules having to build upon the one preceding, until they | 
						
						
							|  | got amazingly elaborate.  Or maybe I'm just a pain in the ass.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      That said, I try very hard *not* to do that.  I don't think it's a | 
						
						
							|  | good thing in the long run.  I see a *lot* of abusive posts, and most of | 
						
						
							|  | them I let slide simply because it seems the wiser path.  But every once | 
						
						
							|  | in a while, somebody'll poke the bear, and it'll be late, and they'll be | 
						
						
							|  | completely out of line...and something snaps and next thing I know I'm | 
						
						
							|  | 110 lines deep into something and my monitor is imploding. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      As for *why* I was up 30 hours straight...Claudia Christian broke | 
						
						
							|  | her foot over the weekend.  Broke it in *three places*, no less, while | 
						
						
							|  | running in her back yard.  She had a lot of action in the next couple of | 
						
						
							|  | scripts, and was in the midst of filming an episode currently.  So the | 
						
						
							|  | scripts had to be revised to work around this, and as stated, we were | 
						
						
							|  | shooting one, and about to shoot another, and it *all* had to be done in | 
						
						
							|  | zero time.  By me.  Basically, we're talking about rewriting two full | 
						
						
							|  | scripts in a couple of days, after which I was half blind and staggering. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      So I was just a bit cranky that night.... | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                  jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:14:47 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Morgan...there is a quantum difference between being called a liar, | 
						
						
							|  | and receiving criticism on a story.  If you cannot see that, that is your | 
						
						
							|  | problem, not mine. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      "If it wasn't worth your time, then why did you respond?" | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Because I felt like it.  However, to the rest of your points, which | 
						
						
							|  | are specious and irrelevant, I don't feel like it tonight.  I will instead | 
						
						
							|  | go along with your question, "why respond?" | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Good suggestion. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Particularly when applied to your message. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                    jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:38:26 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Jim...re: your reply to Morgan...there is a curious neticism that | 
						
						
							|  | I've seen all the years I've been riding the nets, and it's nothing new. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      It's this: Person A writes something awful/scandalous/abusive about | 
						
						
							|  | person B.  Person C says nothing.  Person B writes a heated reply.  Person | 
						
						
							|  | C *now* speaks up to say what bad form it is to go after this poor person | 
						
						
							|  | who was just exercising his right to speak, and suddenly person B is the | 
						
						
							|  | bad guy. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      It's okay to impugne someone's career, or life, or honesty, or any | 
						
						
							|  | other aspect...but to call the person out for it...no, no, we can't have | 
						
						
							|  | that.  Nonsense.  There is nothing in my agreement with any service that | 
						
						
							|  | says I must be a non-responsive, unmoving target.  A bully is a bully, and | 
						
						
							|  | needs to get responded to.  And character attacks must be responded to, | 
						
						
							|  | whether or not some people (who had no problem with the original | 
						
						
							|  | accusation) find it polite conversation. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Say what you want about somebody...but god forbid the person should | 
						
						
							|  | speak up...an intersting philosophy, to say the least. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                             jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:38:35 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Change in Rerun of Believers | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      There were no changes in dialogue made in "Believers" subsequent to | 
						
						
							|  | the first airing. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                               jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 25 Aug 1994 22:10:26 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: 2nd season writing proces | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      It's impossible not to have the characters change to varying degrees | 
						
						
							|  | once you cast actors to play them.  Gradually, Mira's personality has | 
						
						
							|  | grown into Delenn, Andreas has added a lot to G'Kar, Garibaldi IS Doyle, | 
						
						
							|  | and Boxleitner is bringing a lot to Sheridan.  You get to hear the | 
						
						
							|  | characters' voices more the deeper you go, season-wise, and that's great. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                 jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 26 Aug 1994 05:28:32 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Musical Themes? | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      We've done a lot with themes over the season, and plan to do more, | 
						
						
							|  | developing themes for all our characters.  I like interpolating bits and | 
						
						
							|  | pieces of the B5 theme into parts of the show; the lower-key version at | 
						
						
							|  | the end of "Signs" has always struck me as very effective. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                jms | 
						
						
							|  | (meant to type "minor key." | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:02:16 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Michael Heser...I don't just respond to flame-bait.  I respond to | 
						
						
							|  | something on the order of 100 messages a day, out of the 500 per day that | 
						
						
							|  | I get.  In this one pass on Internet via my GEnie mailbox, I've just | 
						
						
							|  | written about 15 so far, and I've got a bunch more to go through.  (And | 
						
						
							|  | not one was a flame.)  This is an aberration, nothing more, and I do | 
						
						
							|  | reserve the right to plink somebody upside the nose if he gets | 
						
						
							|  | obnoxious.  The occasional aberration is good for you (now if only I could | 
						
						
							|  | convince my wife of that...). | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                 jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:02:29 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: new movie? | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Correct, I will be writing the screenplay for the GRIMJACK movie, | 
						
						
							|  | which will draw heavily on John Ostrander's story for the Demon Blood and | 
						
						
							|  | Demon Wars stories.  Whether or not new books are coming I don't know. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                    jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:19:54 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Parallelism in TKO (Possible S | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Yes, there are many subtle parallels between the two story elements, | 
						
						
							|  | as you note.  At its core, is the use of tradition, and respect, as a | 
						
						
							|  | means for greater understanding. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                              jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 27 Aug 1994 21:51:10 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Conventions | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      At this point, beyond the Dallas con, and LosCon, nothing much is | 
						
						
							|  | planned.... | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 01:05:48 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Some comments on your "no | 
						
						
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							|  |      Actually, there are varying religions within the alien species as | 
						
						
							|  | well; G'Kar is a follower of G'Quan, while Na'Toth's father followed | 
						
						
							|  | G'Lan, and Na'Toth herself doesn't really believe in anything (this as | 
						
						
							|  | noted in "By Any Means Necessary").  So that diversity isn't strictly or | 
						
						
							|  | exclusively human. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                            jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:19:38 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Warners' Wishlist | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      I don't recall ever mentioning any memo from PTEN "suggesting that | 
						
						
							|  | something be done with the commander or year two, even if just a bunch of | 
						
						
							|  | commander-centered episodes."  Warners/PTEN said that they would like to | 
						
						
							|  | see a bit more character-oriented stories, which was jake by me because | 
						
						
							|  | that's what we were aiming for anyway.  By virtue of being at least | 
						
						
							|  | nominally an action/adventure show, there was always some sense that we | 
						
						
							|  | had to have a lot of running around; now they're giving us the freedom to | 
						
						
							|  | have more latitude, which by me is terrific.  They've given us no other | 
						
						
							|  | notes. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                            jms | 
						
						
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 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:34:36 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Some questions... | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      You will see the healing machine from "Quality" once more.  Part of | 
						
						
							|  | the reason for that story was to set up something within the B5 universe | 
						
						
							|  | that will come in handy a long time later (but I'm *not* going to have it | 
						
						
							|  | lying around indefinitely; it would cause lots of long-term complications). | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      (Some TV shows foreshadow/set-up stuff an act or two ahead of time; | 
						
						
							|  | we do setups a full *year* ahead....) | 
						
						
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							|  |      Never saw "Star Blazers," so the Valen name has no relation there. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      No idea on coming laserdisk prices. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      When Zathras shows up in time, it'll definitely be recognizeable as | 
						
						
							|  | Zathras. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                                 jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:40:08 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS:B5/LSH Parallels Follow-Up | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Re: the now-mandatory Psi badge in LSH...yeah, I noticed that too. | 
						
						
							|  | If it is indeed a nod in our direction -- and spontaneous duplication is | 
						
						
							|  | also always a possibility -- it's actually fun, from my POV. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                                jms | 
						
						
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 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:44:22 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Re: JMS: LSH/B5 parallel post- | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      This one to Kurt Bose... | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      "We heard about how everything and its mother was derived in some | 
						
						
							|  | manner from the ideas this hack was pitching around Hollywood." | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      So now I'm a hack.  Tell me, Kurt, what have *you* done with your | 
						
						
							|  | life?  I won't post my feelings about my work because that's subjective; | 
						
						
							|  | but the nominations for Writers Guild, Bram Stoker, Ace and Gemini Awards | 
						
						
							|  | over there on the wall might have a thing or two to say about this...or | 
						
						
							|  | the Emmy for Best Animated Series the year I story edited The REal | 
						
						
							|  | Ghostbusters...or the Inkpot Achievement Award from the San Diego Comic | 
						
						
							|  | Convention...or the recent award from the Space Frontier Foundation for | 
						
						
							|  | Best Vision of the Future...shall I go on? | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      To the point of what your screed said in this part...no, I have never | 
						
						
							|  | said what you pillory me for saying.  I have certain very strong feelings | 
						
						
							|  | about an incident with another series, but that's just the one.  You say | 
						
						
							|  | "We heard about how everything and its mother was derived in some manner" | 
						
						
							|  | from my work...please cite me where I have said this about anything else. | 
						
						
							|  | Or I can save you the time...you won't find any, because they aren't | 
						
						
							|  | there. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      This is trait #1 of the net-bully...come up with an outrageous | 
						
						
							|  | statement that someone never made, and then assault them for it.  Seen it. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      "We heard all about how in HIS show, they weren't going to simply | 
						
						
							|  | make all the aliens look like actors in funny makeup.  Well suprise, all | 
						
						
							|  | the aliens look like humans in funny makeup." | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Error #1: once again, I never said it.  I said we were going to work | 
						
						
							|  | to avoid the funny-forehead scenario with full-head prosthetics.  This we | 
						
						
							|  | have done. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Second, as earth-shattering to your perspective as this may be, there | 
						
						
							|  | are currently no real aliens that we know of living on Earth.  No matter | 
						
						
							|  | HOW elaborate the makeup, you're going to have an actor in makup (unless | 
						
						
							|  | you're doing puppets, as a rule, and this isn't a puppet show).  Show me | 
						
						
							|  | any movie or series where the main alien characters have been other than | 
						
						
							|  | puppets or actors in makup, funny or otherwise. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Third...we are the *first* TV SF series to introduce a computer | 
						
						
							|  | graphic alien, in "Grail," and we plan to do more of this next season. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      "We were treated to comments from JMS like "Sinclair should really go | 
						
						
							|  | over well with the ladies."  (This in reference to being cast on sex | 
						
						
							|  | appeal.)  I'm sorry, but this comment is so boneheaded and contradictory | 
						
						
							|  | and illogical that I can't even begin to respond. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Re: "no cute kids or robots," I was referring specifically to regular | 
						
						
							|  | cast members.  We do not have cute kids as regular cast members.  And we | 
						
						
							|  | de-emphasize kids in guest-casting.  In our entire first season we have | 
						
						
							|  | had two, one in a B-story, and the other we killed off.  I don't see the | 
						
						
							|  | problem which is making you so apoplectic in this. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      "If JMS is really saying these things, doing these things, then he's | 
						
						
							|  | insane." | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And, of course, I didn't, and haven't been.  You're seeing them only | 
						
						
							|  | in whatever alternate universe you're experiencing through prolonged | 
						
						
							|  | exposure to your computer monitor's EMF. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      "What I've heard about here and elsewhere makes me feel that his | 
						
						
							|  | 'pariah' routine of the put-upon genius whose work is shamelessly copied | 
						
						
							|  | makes me wonder if there are REASONS for the role he's adopted." | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      First, see response #1.  Never said it.  What "you've heard" has no | 
						
						
							|  | bearing whatsoever on objective reality.  Nor am I responsible for what | 
						
						
							|  | may or may not have been posted on other nets by people other than me.  I | 
						
						
							|  | am only responsible for what I say.  And what I say is generally archived | 
						
						
							|  | somewhere, so actually checking the *facts* (I know, another foreign | 
						
						
							|  | concept) is extraordinarily easy to do.  This you didn't do. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Second: never adopted a pariah attitude; never felt like one; never | 
						
						
							|  | said any such thing.  Are you feeling okay?  Are things all right at | 
						
						
							|  | home?  Do you hear spirit voices at night whispering into your ears the | 
						
						
							|  | things that you'd have *liked* me to have said?  A helpful suggestion: if | 
						
						
							|  | these voices ever tell you to go save France...don't do it.  I've seen | 
						
						
							|  | that movie, you wouldn't like the ending. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Finally, what are these REASONS you're wondering about?  Nothing like | 
						
						
							|  | a little vague innuendo and then zoom-flash out the back door.  Speak | 
						
						
							|  | plainly.  You got something to say, say it. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      (And in a note prior, when someone noticed the LSH telepath pin, I | 
						
						
							|  | commented that it was probably spontaneous duplication/simultaneous | 
						
						
							|  | creation.  My first impulse, despite your willingness to attribute to me | 
						
						
							|  | some fanatical attitude, is that it wasn't a lift.  My second reaction, as | 
						
						
							|  | written, is that if it was inspired by the Psi Corps, that it's really | 
						
						
							|  | kinda cool...SF literature builds on itself, as with Heinlein coming up | 
						
						
							|  | with slidewalks, which were then used by others.  I think it'd be cool if | 
						
						
							|  | Psi Corps style badges started showing up in LSH; it'd mean that I added | 
						
						
							|  | something to the genre.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Okay..now let's see...I read through all the notes, responded in a | 
						
						
							|  | manner without profanity, and ....oh, dear. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      No profanity. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Can't have that.  So really, Kurt, and I say this with the love of | 
						
						
							|  | Jesus in my heart...go fuck yourself. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And next time you want to go around calling someone a "hack," be | 
						
						
							|  | prepared to let us all examine *your* work, okay? | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                           jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:14:03 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Send not thine tales for death | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      It does seem unfortunate that we seem to have to go through this | 
						
						
							|  | fire drill every few months.  Look...the reality is, we manage to go | 
						
						
							|  | through 500 or so messages a day (well, *I* go through them), and very | 
						
						
							|  | rarely, in ALL the discussion and speculation, does anything come close | 
						
						
							|  | to being a story idea.  As I commented on GEnie, at 500 messages a day, | 
						
						
							|  | seven days a week (3500 messages a week, counting all the various | 
						
						
							|  | services I'm on), this has only become a problem *five times*. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      But five times is five times, and it never hurts to put out a | 
						
						
							|  | reminder...because it's due to those reminders that it HAS been only five | 
						
						
							|  | times.  Absent those reminders, it would've been more, that you can count | 
						
						
							|  | on. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      No one is here begruding the rights of people to speculate and | 
						
						
							|  | discuss, least of all me.  You don't generally see me out here pounding | 
						
						
							|  | down on people...the discussions here are very freewheeling, which is as | 
						
						
							|  | it should be.  This is the one little area that I ask be set aside, and | 
						
						
							|  | I just don't see it as a problem. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      And I *do* wish that people wouldn't get bogged down in the legalities | 
						
						
							|  | of all this.  On one level, while that's the core reason I made the | 
						
						
							|  | request in the first place, what it comes down to is just courtesy.  I am | 
						
						
							|  | here for hours each day, unlike any other TV producer, every day, and all | 
						
						
							|  | I ask, as a courtesy, is no story ideas being posted.  When did we as a | 
						
						
							|  | culture hit a point where a request as a courtesy was no longer valid, | 
						
						
							|  | and everything had to be accompanied by legalistic wrangling and court | 
						
						
							|  | orders? | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      I ask this one thing as a favor, in return for the hours spent here. | 
						
						
							|  | Is this really so great a burden?  If people want to discuss story ideas, | 
						
						
							|  | or come up with their own stories, all they have to do is set up a | 
						
						
							|  | private mailing list to which I don't have access, and they can do so to | 
						
						
							|  | their heart's content.  All I ask is that you don't do it where I can see | 
						
						
							|  | it. | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                              jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:14:12 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Season two episode order? | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Episode 1 - Prod. #201 - "Points of Departure," written by jms, | 
						
						
							|  | directed by Janet Greek. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Episode 2 - Prod. #202 - "Revelations," written by jms, directed by | 
						
						
							|  | Jim Johnston. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Episode 3 - Prod. #203 - "The Geometry of Shadows," written by jms, | 
						
						
							|  | directed by Mike Vejar. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Episode 4 - Produ. #204 - "A Distant Star," written by D.C. Fontana, | 
						
						
							|  | directed by Jim Johnston. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Episode 5 - Prod. #205 - "The Long Dark," written by Scott Frost, | 
						
						
							|  | director TBA. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Episode 6 - Prod. #206 - "A Spider in the Web," written by Lawrence | 
						
						
							|  | G. DiTillio, director TBA. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      The first six will be aired in production order. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                              jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:15:43 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Careful with those story ideas | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      One clarification: the problem on GEnie wasn't speculation per se, | 
						
						
							|  | but a statement, "How about if Joe does a story about...."  That in | 
						
						
							|  | particular turned it (unintentionally, but there it is) into a pitch of a | 
						
						
							|  | story idea. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                               jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:02:48 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Who all should get letters pra | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Letters can be sent to B5 staff and routed to Warners/PTEN through: | 
						
						
							|  | 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                             jms | 
						
						
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 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:19 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: How important to the Arc is Sh | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      How critical was Aragorn to the storyline of Lord of the Rings? | 
						
						
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							|  |                                                                 jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:28 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: How many eps? | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      This is from memory, but after we broke down the stories for the | 
						
						
							|  | second season, and determined who we'd need for what stories, I think it | 
						
						
							|  | came out to 22 each for Sheridan, Ivanova, Garibaldi, Delenn and | 
						
						
							|  | Franklin; 13 for Na'Toth, Vir, Talia, G'Kar and Londo; and 8 for our new | 
						
						
							|  | squadron leader.  (Oops, forgot 13 also for Lennier.)  Now these are the | 
						
						
							|  | minimum contracted for, we can use them for more as they're needed. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                              jms | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:37 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Her.? | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      The line, "If I knew who God was, I'd thank her," was as written in | 
						
						
							|  | the script.  We generally don't allow much improvisation on stage. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Many thanks. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                                  jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 29 Aug 1994 03:35:16 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Syndication Question | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Okay, I'll try to make this coherent and brief, two concepts that | 
						
						
							|  | don't necessarily relate. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Here's how it works with B5, which is how virtually all syndicated | 
						
						
							|  | shows work. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      I created B5.  Went to Doug Netter, made a handshake deal to make the | 
						
						
							|  | series.  Five years pass.  Finally we hook up with PTEN.  PTEN buys the | 
						
						
							|  | rights to B5, and owns it.  They then finance the production of the series | 
						
						
							|  | through Babylonian Productions, which I and Doug own.  But the copyright | 
						
						
							|  | to B5 belongs to PTEN, as Star Trek has always belonged to Paramount, not | 
						
						
							|  | Gene R.  Rights don't revert to anyone; the rights belong to PTEN unless | 
						
						
							|  | PTEN should cancel the series, after which I believe there's a period of | 
						
						
							|  | about two years, after which it *then* comes back to me. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      As long as PTEN exists, and the show is broadcast, it belongs to | 
						
						
							|  | PTEN, regardless of how many times it's shown.  I don't know, or pretend | 
						
						
							|  | to know, what would happen if PTEN ceased to exist, though I'm sure that | 
						
						
							|  | procedures have been set up such that the revenue stream would continue to | 
						
						
							|  | the original parties in PTEN, and the corporation itself would continue as | 
						
						
							|  | a means of funnelling those funds. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      Warners doesn't own PTEN per se; PTEN is a consortium of a core group | 
						
						
							|  | of TV stations in association with Warners, and this executive committee | 
						
						
							|  | votes funding on the show. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      We are in some ways an unusual situation in that we're not a studio | 
						
						
							|  | in-house production, like KUNG FU and TIME TRAX, which were created from | 
						
						
							|  | within the Warners corporate structure. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                                jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 29 Aug 1994 03:36:47 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Old Red Eyes | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      He'll be back soon enough.... | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                           jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 29 Aug 1994 18:54:06 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: 'What do you want?' - nod | 
						
						
							|  | 
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							|  |      Actually, the origin of "What do you want?" comes from encounter | 
						
						
							|  | groups I've run, and from other kinds of group psychotherapy, such as the | 
						
						
							|  | original Synanon games; you ask, "Who are you?" over and over, refusing | 
						
						
							|  | to take the same answer twice, to peel away the fabric of what the | 
						
						
							|  | person is.  It's a slight jump to "What do you want?"  (I knew that | 
						
						
							|  | degree in Psychology would come in handy one of these days.) | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      As for the B5 reference in "OtherSyde," I always knew it would be a | 
						
						
							|  | series, because I've never allowed any other consideration. | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  |      (I think B5 hits Australia later in the fall.) | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                             jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:13:08 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: What is this . | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      It came from the prop people at Warners/PTEN, who seem to be | 
						
						
							|  | watching an alternate-universe version of the series.... | 
						
						
							|  |   | 
						
						
							|  | 	                                                           jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:07:06 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: Sheridan | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      Yes, Sheridan is descended from Gen. Philip John Sheridan of the | 
						
						
							|  | Union Army. | 
						
						
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							|  | 	                                                            jms | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:16:39 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Speaking of First Comics. | 
						
						
							|  | 
 | 
						
						
							|  |      I would *love* to do American Flagg! as a movie; I think it was | 
						
						
							|  | probably Howard's best moment.  I've read a lot of his stuff, but somehow | 
						
						
							|  | after AF! it never did it for me as much as that one did.  (And he | 
						
						
							|  | certainly went...well, let's say where no comic has gone before...in Black | 
						
						
							|  | Kiss.)  I think the rights might be tied up, however. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:22:18 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Arcane story twists et al | 
						
						
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							|  |      If you look at my scripts, you'll find that generally I write very | 
						
						
							|  | tight, I don't leave a lot of threads hanging as a rule.  Same with the | 
						
						
							|  | planned series.  No important threads will be left hanging by the end of | 
						
						
							|  | it all.  And generally any really significant thread will be wrapped within | 
						
						
							|  | a year of being introduced. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 30 Aug 1994 21:54:13 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: JMS: Question???????????? | 
						
						
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							|  |      Medlab is the smaller facility exclusively for Dr. Franklin, as | 
						
						
							|  | Chief of Staff.  There are larger medical facilities, more like proper | 
						
						
							|  | hospitals, elsewhere on the station. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 30 Aug 1994 22:01:11 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: A note regarding "V" to jms | 
						
						
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							|  |      I guess my attitude toward "V" the series (as distinguished from | 
						
						
							|  | the miniseries, which was great) is colored by the rather contemptuous | 
						
						
							|  | attitude of the producers toward SF, and SF fans, leading to their | 
						
						
							|  | decision to bring on soap opera writers.  I think they took a wonderful | 
						
						
							|  | concept and just trashed it. | 
						
						
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							|  | From: straczynski@genie.geis.com | 
						
						
							|  | Date: 31 Aug 1994 03:02:09 -0400 | 
						
						
							|  | Subject: ATTN JMS: A few questions | 
						
						
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							|  |      The script called for Garibaldi to take up the Big Massive Gun and | 
						
						
							|  | fire, with a primal YELL that went on forever.  Any dialogue at that | 
						
						
							|  | point which replaced the yell came from the actor.  The "you're already | 
						
						
							|  | dead" was only relevant to the scene, not T2. | 
						
						
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