The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  2. | This text is compiled from posts by J. Michael Straczynski on the Usenet
  3. | group rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5. This document contains material Copyright
  4. | 1994 J. Michael Straczynski. He has given permission for his words to be
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  9. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  10. Date: 1 Aug 1994 01:58:19 -0400
  11. Subject: Minbari = Mri?
  12. No, I did not use "The Faded Sun" as (to quote you) "a source when
  13. (I) created the Minbari."
  14. That's called plagiarism.
  15. And now I'm going to vent for a moment.
  16. Why the fuck is it that every time a TV writer comes up with
  17. something, everybody scurries to figure out what book or short story it
  18. was swiped from? That standard is virtually never applied to novels that
  19. I've seen. But it always comes to us TeeVee types.
  20. I have a brain, you know. I'm perfectly capable of thinking up
  21. stuff on my own. I've published novels. I've published short stories.
  22. I've written plays. I've never read ANY of Cherryh's work that I can
  23. recall.
  24. Instead of suggesting something was cribbed, all you needed to say
  25. was, "So, JMS, where did you get the name Minbari?"
  26. And I would've told you that a "minbar" is the name for a pulpit in
  27. a Mosque. The first time I heard that, I thought it would be great as a
  28. name for an alien or an alien planet. And the people who would live there
  29. would be called Minbari.
  30. Not everything that comes out of TV is cribbed, okay?
  31. End of venting.
  32. If I seem a bit pissed, it's not specifically directed at you but at
  33. the general sense that TV writers have the creative capacity of blowfish
  34. and are incapable of creating *anything* on their own. (And you weren't
  35. pointing to just the name but to the whole concept and parts thereof.) I
  36. don't mean to flame, but I've heard it enough over the years, and I'm
  37. getting a little tired of it.
  38. Every TV writer gets it, and almost no prose writer does, and that's
  39. simple discrimination and stereotyping.
  40. jms
  41. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  42. Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:29:46 -0400
  43. Subject: Re: Minbari = Mri?
  44. Aaron, re: Heinlein...now that's comedy....
  45. jms
  46. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  47. Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:34:54 -0400
  48. Subject: JMS: What was ? "Voice 1"
  49. That was a replacement part for a section of the station; they were
  50. being given final instructions on placement from C&C.
  51. jms
  52. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  53. Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:56:26 -0400
  54. Subject: Question
  55. Yes, I would think it fair to say that the Minbari have a thing for
  56. triangles and things that come in threes.
  57. jms
  58. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  59. Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:57:51 -0400
  60. Subject: UK: BAMN
  61. Re: who is Rush Limbaugh....
  62. Leading American proctologist.
  63. Trust me.
  64. jms
  65. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  66. Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:14 -0400
  67. Subject: JMS: Dirt on the Lens!!! (Mini
  68. My suspicion is that the shows are sent to the UK via parcel, not
  69. via satellite, but that's only an assumption.
  70. Won't be starting production formally until August 10th. Gearing
  71. up now.
  72. Re: satellite...one of the more interesting stories I've heard lately
  73. is that B5 is *very* popular via satellite...in Iran and Iraq, both of
  74. whom lay claim of one sort or another to the original Babylon. Apparently
  75. that a Westerner has set a series in their well-remembered Babylon that
  76. is NOT a negative thing but a positive thing has got both countries quite
  77. pleasantly astonished.
  78. jms
  79. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  80. Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:17 -0400
  81. Subject: JMS: response to your Mri vent
  82. To nick.plummer...Nicholas...you're quite right, of course, that
  83. ideas do not grow in a vacuum. Everyone in SF stands on the shoulders of
  84. those who went before. Heinlein invented slidewalks; after that, they
  85. were all OVER SF. But for the most part, they're background elements, or
  86. sort of the collective unconscious of SF; the line comes when taking a
  87. race wholecloth and just filing off the serial numbers (or, in this case,
  88. some vowels).
  89. We try to walk a fine line on this show, between being as original
  90. and innovative as we can...while once in a while giving a nod of respect
  91. and acknowledgment to those who preceded us (like the Prisoner). My
  92. only suggestion, in future, is that such issues (as we say in Jeapordy)
  93. be phrased in the form of a question, rather than an allegation.
  94. jms
  95. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  96. Date: 2 Aug 1994 01:59:19 -0400
  97. Subject: JMS: "Free Mars" in "A Voice i
  98. Re: was the Free Mars movement a nod to Kim Stanley Robinson's
  99. Mars books....
  100. I take your question as polite, and supportive, and genuinely
  101. curious, and so I answer back: no, the thread was nowhere tied to Kim's
  102. work. Rather it grew out of a sense of history, looking at the tradition
  103. of colonies to outgrow their founders, and want to strike out on their
  104. own. The United Kingdom being a good example of this.
  105. Having now answered politely, I return to my closet to stick very
  106. long needles into my eyes....
  107. jms
  108. (Nothing to do with you, just the tenor of the day and messages
  109. preceding.)
  110. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  111. Date: 2 Aug 1994 02:00:43 -0400
  112. Subject: JMS: Spoo!?!
  113. What is spoo? Spoo....is.
  114. (Spoo is also Oops spelled backward.)
  115. jms
  116. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  117. Date: 2 Aug 1994 04:21:45 -0400
  118. Subject: JMS: Are You Going to Con
  119. Eric...nothing would gladden my heart more than if the B5 pilot
  120. won a Hugo (except the series winning a Hugo, which I think is a bit
  121. likelier, maybe). It is the highest compliment that can be paid by the
  122. SF community of readers and viewers. But one must be realistic, and I
  123. just don't see it outpulling Jurassic Park in the ballotting. JP is the
  124. proverbial 500 pound gorilla. Or the 50,000 pound T-Rex.
  125. While we are only small mammals....granted we're mammals with guns
  126. and an attitude, of course....
  127. jms
  128. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  129. Date: 2 Aug 1994 04:21:47 -0400
  130. Subject: JMS Re: <*> Cryptic message to
  131. ...or, y'all are just fucking with me....
  132. jm(where's my passport?)s
  133. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  134. Date: 3 Aug 1994 01:26:26 -0400
  135. Subject: Why Babylon?
  136. Before it fell into depravity, Babylon was a center of commerce, and
  137. culture, and trade, and diplomacy.
  138. jms
  139. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  140. Date: 6 Aug 1994 20:50:35 -0400
  141. Subject: JMS: Is this really you?
  142. I haven't seen the message, but that's my ID#, so that much is true.
  143. jms
  144. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  145. Date: 8 Aug 1994 02:44:03 -0400
  146. Subject: JMS: You're Back
  147. Peter Jurasik is *definitely* back as Londo for year two. The
  148. show continues on. The rumor is false.
  149. jms
  150. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  151. Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:08:45 -0400
  152. Subject: "Babylon Squared" - Some thoug
  153. Re: Garibaldi in the flash-forward scene...no, it wasn't any kind of
  154. "homage" to Aliens. (And for the most part, I try and stay clear of any
  155. kind of homage unless it's primarily a throwaway; I want my story to be MY
  156. story, not a bunch of homages.)
  157. The single most moving kind of story for me is the "last man on the
  158. bridge"...the last defender who has to hold the line while others get
  159. away, knowing he will probably not survive it. This has great power for
  160. me, and for many others, which is why it shows up again and again in
  161. films, literature, TV and other venues. The Garibaldi scene has NOTHING
  162. to do with Aliens, and everything to do with that figure.
  163. Re: *why* it is that humans are special...has nothing to do with
  164. sacrifice, or dedication (well, that's not quite true, it has something
  165. to do with it), but that's not the totality of it. There's one more
  166. element you don't know about yet, that won't be revealed until season two,
  167. episode one, "Points of Departure." Once you see that episode, you'll
  168. fully understand that there is one very particular thing about humans that
  169. is very special indeed.
  170. And yes, we did see the Grey Council guy in "Squared" who also showed
  171. up in "Sky."
  172. jms
  173. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  174. Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:16:53 -0400
  175. Subject: JMS: You BLOW my mind!!!!
  176. Yes, you will see the Major Conflict that leads to the situation with
  177. Babylon 4. We're building toward a massive conflagration here.
  178. jms
  179. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  180. Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:09 -0400
  181. Subject: Creation's False B5 info
  182. The speakers at Creation have a habit of running their mouths when
  183. they don't have a clue what the facts are. I've already had to yell at
  184. them once in the last couple weeks, stating that Michael York had been
  185. selected as the new Commander. Now this. Frankly, I wouldn't believe a
  186. word they say about *anything*.
  187. jms
  188. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  189. Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:12 -0400
  190. Subject: Untitled
  191. I really don't know what the "B5 lovers" thing *is*, let alone how
  192. to get you in touch with them.
  193. jms
  194. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  195. Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:15 -0400
  196. Subject: JMS: IS BACK! Questions!
  197. Sheridan wasn't on the Line. Have several options for his middle
  198. name, haven't decided which to use yet. Chrysalis is still for October.
  199. And we've got plenty of scripts on hand currently; we wanted the same as
  200. last year, 6, in hand when we began shooting. We've got that.
  201. jms
  202. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  203. Date: 8 Aug 1994 16:37:17 -0400
  204. Subject: Windows .AVI of intro
  205. I cannot comment on this sort of thing.
  206. jms
  207. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  208. Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:19:40 -0400
  209. Subject: Recent Threads: two thoughts
  210. Molly: assumptions right on both counts.
  211. jms
  212. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  213. Date: 9 Aug 1994 03:41:11 -0400
  214. Subject: JMS: Babylon**2 question (spoi [noticing similarity with "2001" suit]
  215. Yeah, I guess there are some similarities, aren't there?
  216. jms
  217. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  218. Date: 9 Aug 1994 15:55:23 -0400
  219. Subject: JMS: Will every episode be rer
  220. I think the majority of eps will have been rerun by "Chrysalis." And
  221. all that remain after "Babylon Squared" to be aired are that one, and "The
  222. Quality of Mercy."
  223. jms
  224. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  225. Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:28:54 -0400
  226. Subject: Bye Bye Babylon: CANCELLATION
  227. Which station are you referring to in your local market? To my
  228. knowldge only the Cincinatti station has done this, and we're working on
  229. them.
  230. jms
  231. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  232. Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:28:57 -0400
  233. Subject: JMS: Babylon^2 Question
  234. The triangle only manifests itself for specific reasons, at specific
  235. times, neither of which were appropriate to that moment. And yes, the
  236. Triluminary is much cooler...and does something quite interesting.
  237. jms
  238. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  239. Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:14:18 -0400
  240. Subject: JMS: et all, PSI-Corps Questio
  241. Re: who psi's can marry...this question is already being dealt with
  242. in an episode tentatively titled "The Customer is Always Right."
  243. (season two)
  244. jms
  245. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  246. Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:14:20 -0400
  247. Subject: Re: Creation's False B5 info
  248. It's my understanding that the "information" about O'Hare was fed to
  249. Creation by -- big surprise -- someone associated with Paramount/ST. You
  250. know, they could save themselves *endless* embarrassment (particularly in
  251. the "York is new commander" kind of situation, which caused them to send
  252. letters/faxes to all their "hosts") if they would, oh I dunno...maybe CALL
  253. US for information rather than taking stuff off the grapevine, particularly
  254. from anyone with Paramount.
  255. (I've also heard just recently that allegedly Paramount is leaning on
  256. those who've directed ST episodes, who are free agents and not under any
  257. kind of general contract, *not* to direct B5. We've already had one such
  258. incident of withdrawl after we'd made arrangements and all parties had
  259. agreed to the director doing an episode for us.)
  260. jms
  261. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  262. Date: 10 Aug 1994 05:46:10 -0400
  263. Subject: Re: Plaster-cast of G'Kar.
  264. The plaster bust of G'Kar stolen from the B5 offices right before we
  265. began shooting Year One is still missing. And again, if this ever shows
  266. up at a dealer's room, know that it is stolen merchandise and there is a
  267. police report listing it as such.
  268. Anyone buying this will be buying stolen merchandise.
  269. jms
  270. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  271. Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:12:02 -0400
  272. Subject: JMS: Any new sets for season 2
  273. We've done a lot of work on the sets; refurbished, made better, put
  274. in windows that look out onto the Garden, expanded...and built some new
  275. sets, including an officer's club, a Bazaar, and other sets. We took a
  276. blood oath: each year, bigger and better.
  277. jms
  278. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  279. Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:12:05 -0400
  280. Subject: ?? for Joe (B^^2 SPOILERS) [G's flashback seeing Lise]
  281. The two flashbacks were designed so that they could run in any order
  282. (something you have to consider in syndication). You get a slightly
  283. different "feel" from seeing them in a different order, but it still works.
  284. jms
  285. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  286. Date: 10 Aug 1994 19:08:37 -0400
  287. Subject: Watching others watch...
  288. Hey, as somebody once pointed out, we are vast, we contain
  289. multitudes...we are a mass of contradictions. So our characters should
  290. be the same.
  291. jms
  292. (And thanks.)
  293. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  294. Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:03 -0400
  295. Subject: JOE AT SAN DIEGO (3) (MIN
  296. Neither panel was listed on my badge, and I only learned about
  297. them later, after they were over.
  298. jms
  299. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  300. Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:06 -0400
  301. Subject: > > JMS & All: Worldcon B5 pa
  302. My replies, for the panel, in brief:
  303. What works? What doesn't? (Most things, some things.)
  304. Can B5 become another Star Trek? (God I hope not.)
  305. Succumb to second season syndrome? (Year 2 scripts even better.)
  306. B5 reflect politics of the 90s? (No. I hate the politics of the 90s.)
  307. Survive its 5 year story? (That's up to you.)
  308. How handle the inevitable B5/ST comparisons? (They're not
  309. inevitable. They're inevitable only if you choose to make them so. )
  310. Action/Character/Special EFX vs. good writing. (Action and
  311. character are part of good writing, you don't separate them. EFX must
  312. be in the service of the story.)
  313. Comparisons with X-Files. (See above.)
  314. TV SF's "last best hope." (Only if you've learned that the
  315. universe will implode in 4 years.)
  316. Why like/dislike it? ("If you like that sort of thing, it's the
  317. sort of thing you'll like." Abraham Lincoln.)
  318. Plot or SFX more important? (Neither. Character first. Then
  319. plot. Then SFX.)
  320. Why human female characters still 2-dimensional? (Don't agree with
  321. the premise. They're not. Are you still beating your wife?)
  322. jms
  323. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  324. Date: 11 Aug 1994 04:21:08 -0400
  325. Subject: (ATTN JMS, others) Newbies
  326. Dan: thanks, good points all. And as you say, patience is key to
  327. newbie-greeting. Sometimes when I've been up 20 hours, it's hard, but
  328. will work harder at it come schooltime.
  329. jms
  330. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  331. Date: 12 Aug 1994 00:51:02 -0400
  332. Subject: B5 Writing, following a master
  333. It is *all* designed to tie together. Nothing is just tossed in
  334. arbitrarily. Again, the best comparison is a novel. The few freelance
  335. writers on the show (I wrote 12 last season) are given specific guidelines
  336. on what to include to tie stuff together later.
  337. jms
  338. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  339. Date: 12 Aug 1994 15:51:35 -0400
  340. Subject: JMS: LENN? and Comments
  341. Re: Delenn/Lennier...there are certain recurring composites and
  342. word-segments that show up frequently in Minbari language (as in Rathenn,
  343. mentioned in "Voice 1," which resonates with Delenn). I've worked out a
  344. system for this, though it's probably not as complex as it should be.
  345. And thanks for your kind words.
  346. jms
  347. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  348. Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:39:37 -0400
  349. Subject: Why are the Starfury launch ba
  350. The outside of the bays are wrapped around and triangular, kind of
  351. like cobra heads.
  352. jms
  353. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  354. Date: 13 Aug 1994 21:41:03 -0400
  355. Subject: JMS: a casting question...
  356. We do tend to try and stay open to gender stuff; usually there's a
  357. reason why someone is male or female, so it's cast that way. But as an
  358. example...in "Quality of Mercy," the role as originally written was for a
  359. father/daughter combination. In the process of casting, we thought, why
  360. not mother/daughter? So that's how it ended up. In "Points of Departure,"
  361. we have one of your requests already taken care of...a part of a war
  362. cruiser commander who could've been male or female...cast female.
  363. jms
  364. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  365. Date: 14 Aug 1994 00:15:07 -0400
  366. Subject: Re: <*> <*>
  367. I've decided youze guys are just messing with my mind.
  368. Returning the favor, so to speak.
  369. It's certainly been that kind of week...first a file vanishes on my
  370. computer, we need to print it, and it's gone...then I can see it again,
  371. no explanation...I get a messengered packet from Chris Franke, expecting
  372. it contains a tape, but it's flat and soft and I peek inside and I don't
  373. see a tape and toss it, wondering what he's up to now...the coffee machine
  374. isn't working right...everybody's messing with me, so why not here?
  375. jms
  376. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  377. Date: 14 Aug 1994 00:38:57 -0400
  378. Subject: Babylon Squared --- Way to Go
  379. "How are you going to top this one, JMS?"
  380. Chrysalis.
  381. jms
  382. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  383. Date: 14 Aug 1994 17:26:33 -0400
  384. Subject: JMS: A few minor questions...
  385. Promoting Ivanova to running the station would not be logical, since
  386. from a military and diplomatic standpoint she has nowhere *near* the level
  387. of experience required. It wouldn't be done in real life.
  388. G'Kar wasn't needed for the last few eps; he'll show up again in
  389. "Chrysalis," and a lot next season.
  390. I think there'll be a tech manual eventually.
  391. jms
  392. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  393. Date: 14 Aug 1994 17:58:51 -0400
  394. Subject: <*> Joe really need a clue
  395. I'm not sure I understand...if there was anything in the package,
  396. I didn't notice it, and so just tossed the envelope. It's gone. Why?
  397. Was there something I should've known?
  398. jms
  399. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  400. Date: 15 Aug 1994 03:28:28 -0400
  401. Subject: Re: **Spoiler: Chrysalis**
  402. There's a couple ships look like Earthforce 1.
  403. jms
  404. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  405. Date: 15 Aug 1994 16:03:56 -0400
  406. Subject: JMS: CFPL in London, Ontario,
  407. Unfortunately, this sort of thing is outside my direct purview. The
  408. best way to deal with this is on the local level, with letters and calls.
  409. jms
  410. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  411. Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:37:43 -0400
  412. Subject: Babylon Squared, Part II
  413. Yes, you will definitely, at some point, see the flip side of the
  414. B2 episode.
  415. jms
  416. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  417. Date: 15 Aug 1994 20:37:46 -0400
  418. Subject: Can JMS pull it off?
  419. If I didn't have a good, solid, consistent ending, I wouldn't have
  420. started the story. I always have the ending before I begin writing the
  421. beginning.
  422. jms
  423. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  424. Date: 16 Aug 1994 03:51:29 -0400
  425. Subject: Re: <*> Joe really need a clu
  426. Okay, okay, okay, hold off the frantic email...I WUZ ONLY KIDDING!
  427. I got the card from everybody, and I thank you for it. It was a
  428. wonderful gesture. But I *had* to get back at y'all for the weeks of
  429. grief leading up to it, yes?
  430. Thanks. Really.
  431. And don't do it again.
  432. jms
  433. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  434. Date: 16 Aug 1994 21:07:14 -0400
  435. Subject: JMS: What to Watch for in Reru
  436. Scenes you should look at differently after "Chrysalis"...one that
  437. comes to mind offhand is "Sky," in the various Garibaldi scenes (can't be
  438. more specific than that right now).
  439. jms
  440. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  441. Date: 16 Aug 1994 22:21:23 -0400
  442. Subject: JMS and the net
  443. Best thing about the net is that it forces you to ask questions. The
  444. job of the writer is to come up with every possible question about your
  445. character and your world, and answer it, giving both greater
  446. verasimilitude. But nobody can come up with EVERY conceivable question;
  447. but on the nets, you get questions you never *dreamed* of. Which helps.
  448. jms
  449. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  450. Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:31:57 -0400
  451. Subject: JMS: Don't do it!!!!!
  452. I'm trying to make the B5 novels and comics as much canon as I can.
  453. Basically, they take place within B5 continuity, as episodes that might
  454. have been. The first four issues of the comic deal with issues that hit
  455. the series, but from another point of view/location. The novel uses B5
  456. as background of an event that makes sense within B5 continuity, and may
  457. be referred to in future episodes (not as a requirement, but only as
  458. background...no different than when you have to give background on any
  459. episode of stuff that's happened in the past, like Ironheart's escape,
  460. for instance, which we don't have to see/read about, but knowing is nice).
  461. I *really* don't want these to be just throwaways media-tie-ins. I
  462. want them to stand on their own as good work, *and* be part of our
  463. universe.
  464. Thankfully, I no longer require sleep, and have transcended to a
  465. higher state of consciousness...ommmmmm....
  466. jms
  467. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  468. Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:48:13 -0400
  469. Subject: Question for JMS
  470. Fasten, button.
  471. Levi's Jeans forever!
  472. jms
  473. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  474. Date: 18 Aug 1994 01:48:19 -0400
  475. Subject: JMS lying? (was Re: Voyager Ca
  476. If Sinclair was simply to be *gone*, we had *plenty* of time to
  477. edit OUT the scene in B4 that you saw and refer to. It was self-contained,
  478. occupied only about 30 seconds, and could've been easily deleted (we ran
  479. long on that episode, and cut a shot of Delenn leaving the Minbari
  480. cruiser setting course for B5, which could easily have been put into
  481. the show in that scene's absence). We only delivered that episode a few
  482. weeks before airdate, and the news re: Sinclair was announced MONTHS
  483. before that, while we were still in the process of editing it. (And we
  484. can make changes literally up to a week or so before delivery.)
  485. We could've deleted it, and left it a mystery, just as with Sigma
  486. 957. We're not afraid to do that.
  487. In addition, the first four issues of the B5 comic will NOT be about
  488. the new Captain, they will be about *Sinclair*, and where he is, and where
  489. he's gone, and what he's doing. Since at this point it would be
  490. hideously expensive to show that in the series, we're doing it in the
  491. comic. And will continue to do it from time to time in the comic, AND in
  492. occasional shots in the series.
  493. This is NOT what you do when the network comes to you and says, "We
  494. want this guy GONE." When that happens, he's *gone*, period.
  495. No, people should not believe everything they are told.
  496. Nor should you assume that everyone is lying all the time.
  497. jms
  498. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  499. Date: 18 Aug 1994 17:42:15 -0400
  500. Subject: JMS:Mephisto in Space?
  501. While the TP themes in "Quality" go back through the history of SF,
  502. including the Demolished Man, among others, the basic storyline (re:
  503. Talia) came out of the pilot. At the time, I was asked -- frequently --
  504. "Why didn't Lyta scan Sinclair to determine if he had tried to kill
  505. Kosh?" My answer then -- which is in some of the archives -- was that
  506. it would violate the right to due process, that a defendant cannot be
  507. scanned to determine guilt or innocence (in fact, I recall a rather
  508. heated debate about that here a while back). I promised that this would
  509. be elaborated upon down the road, and mentally logged in to do a show
  510. with that premise...and I'd already decided about the death penalty, and
  511. the use of telepaths in it. So "Quality" came out of that, long before
  512. "Mephisto" was even written. At one point, knowing that there were some
  513. common story areas, I called Harlan to tell him the "Quality" story, so
  514. that if there were any problems, I could revise it, but he said he saw
  515. no problem.
  516. jms
  517. Date: 8 Aug 1994 03:08:45 -0400
  518. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  519. Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:06:12 -0400
  520. Subject: "Mercy" -- SPOILERS of course
  521. They cannot carry out the original sentence because the body is
  522. now dead, which would tend to diminish its social acceptability.
  523. Dr. Franklin did not know that Mueller had yet found Rosen, or even
  524. knew of it. There are no Babcom systems in DownBelow quarters. To send
  525. a security team, when they're out searching, without cause, is neither
  526. realistic nor sensible. He did the correct thing: to go and warn her,
  527. while at the same time making sure that security knew where he was going,
  528. and if they didn't hear anything, to send in a team.
  529. jms
  530. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  531. Date: 19 Aug 1994 16:06:22 -0400
  532. Subject: JMS: Give us a chance!
  533. I think participants of this usenet group should be given a chance to
  534. come to your house, Paul,and tell you how to make love as a group project.
  535. jms
  536. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  537. Date: 19 Aug 1994 20:11:19 -0400
  538. Subject: JMS: Lose the Hyperion. Bad De
  539. That design will never be seen again.
  540. jms
  541. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  542. Date: 20 Aug 1994 04:37:49 -0400
  543. Subject: What if a crucial actor/actres
  544. No, that sort of thing can't be done on an episodic TV budget; when
  545. time comes to do the flip side of Bsquared, we'll integrate the first
  546. season footage, but the second part hasn't yet been shot.
  547. jms
  548. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  549. Date: 20 Aug 1994 04:43:21 -0400
  550. Subject: JMS: Na'Toth casting?
  551. The woman who will be playing Na'Toth next season is Mary Kay Adams;
  552. we're introducing a character who will be a Squad Leader for Zeta
  553. Squadron (the one that arrived in "Survivors"), Warren Keffer, which will
  554. be portrayed by Robert Russler. (Many people noted that logically you
  555. would have a regular squad leader as well as in some situations the
  556. Commander going out, and most times it's the Squad Leader who's out there
  557. doing this kind of stuff. And they're correct.)
  558. jms
  559. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  560. Date: 21 Aug 1994 04:10:25 -0400
  561. Subject: A message to jms
  562. Thanks. All of us involved in Babylon 5 work very hard at it, and
  563. your words of encouragement are a great help.
  564. As an aside...the first season isn't *quite* over. Our final
  565. episode, "Chrysalis," will be aired the week before the second season
  566. proper begins, figure the last Wednesday or so in October.
  567. I think you'll find it most intriguing....
  568. jms
  569. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  570. Date: 23 Aug 1994 06:16:36 -0400
  571. Subject: [B5] Liar liar pants on fire..
  572. Normally, this thread wouldn't even be worth my time to respond,
  573. moreso since I missed the original message, and can only see the replies.
  574. But that said...maybe because I've been up nearly 30 hours breaking my
  575. back on this show, to try and provide an occasional hour's entertainment,
  576. and I'm cranky, I figured I'd just say a few quick things.
  577. Unlike Mr. Glover, who I believe is the same person who's been
  578. spreading this "JMS is lying about everything" crap on various nets,
  579. including Fidonet, every post that I have written about Babylon 5 for
  580. the last *three years* has been archived, organized, filed, and indexed
  581. for easy reference. I would suggest that in three years of his own posts,
  582. you would probably find lots of contradictions in Mr. Glover's posts. He
  583. is free from this kind of scrutiny. I am not.
  584. That said...if I were running around fibbing left, right and center,
  585. as he implies, because there *is* that vast pool of material, it would've
  586. been caught out *ages* ago. I know that everything I write gets saved, and
  587. thus it behooves me to be as *abolutely* correct in what I write as I
  588. humanly can be. From time to time, as the story has progressed, I've
  589. refined a small character point or two, but overall I've been pretty
  590. damned consistent.
  591. And I have been *particularly* consistent in what I have said about
  592. Michael O'Hare. I have said that it was mutual and amicable. I said that
  593. we came to him first. Those are not, as Mr. Glover would suggest, mutually
  594. contradictory statements. Someone has to go first.
  595. And let me just toss a note in Mr. Glover's direction...what the fuck
  596. is it to you what happens between Michael O'Hare and his employer in the
  597. privacy of their offices? Suppose for the moment he quit because he saw
  598. me courting his pet chicken...what the fuck is it to you? Who says you're
  599. entitled to ANY information? How'd you like it if we went digging out
  600. information on how your employer treats you? On why you were fired from
  601. your last job? What business is it of mine? None. What business is this
  602. of yours? None. Except that you have no apparent life but that which you
  603. obtain through what you see on TeeVee, in the belief that somehow, by
  604. virtue of certain phosphor-dots resting on your corneas for a few seconds,
  605. we owe you *anything*. We don't. Bugger off.
  606. As for Larry DiTillio...I showed him what was posted on this net
  607. from his apperance at LosCon, and he was *very* upset by the quotes, in
  608. his sense that they misrepresented what he had said.
  609. I have yet to see the alleged quotes where I changed my story on
  610. something. I don't think they exist.
  611. I think that by describing the majority of viewers here as
  612. "sycophants" who "hang on (my) every word)", Mr. Glover attempts right off
  613. the bat to discredit anyone who might disagree with him. He insults every
  614. member of this discussion in so doing, and I take great exception to that.
  615. Anyone who disagrees with Mr. Glover is either a liar, or a sycophant.
  616. Sod off, Mr. Glover.
  617. And Mr. Glover also over-estimates not only his own importance, but
  618. the importance of this system in terms of ratings. If you added up every
  619. single person who reads this forum, and all those on GEnie, Compuserve,
  620. (AOL and Prodigy on bounce-back), NVN, Bix and all the rest...it wouldn't
  621. be even a *blip* on the ratings. Wouldn't even show up. I'm here only
  622. because I want to be, and because -- despite the occasional Gloverite who
  623. trudges his way in here to sneer at people -- it's fun to hang out.
  624. And I am not "A SALESMAN." I am a writer. I'm not here to sell
  625. anybody anything. The people who come here are those who watch the show
  626. to begin with; those who watch Baywatch and have no interest in B5 don't
  627. come in here. There's no point in singing to the choir. Many of those
  628. here are those who've already decided they like the show...and others are
  629. certainly more than free with their criticism.
  630. On another system, the indefatigable Mr. Glover commented that I
  631. MUST be lying about O'Hare, because after all if I ever admitted that
  632. someone walked off the show on their own, I'd be in trouble with Warner
  633. Bros, and I was thus protecting my ass. And I think it was about a week
  634. later that I mentioned, on my own, that Caitlin Brown was going off the
  635. show, on her own, because she wants to do feature-film starring roles.
  636. Boy, I must be some kinda feeb to admit that in public, because I gots to
  637. protect my ass....
  638. I said it because it was true.
  639. One of the primary reasons I'm here is to try and educate people
  640. about how TV is done. When I did the series of articles on the new TZ
  641. series for Twilight Zone magazine, I made it a point to include the good
  642. and the bad and the ugly, otherwise it has no worth. I've come on here
  643. and said which episodes of B5 were great, and which I wouldn't mind if
  644. all copies of the negative fell off a pier; I've stated when actors have
  645. left on their own, and when we've changed our minds about them, and when
  646. deals have fallen through; I've been as hard on the show as anyone else.
  647. But for Eugene Glover, whose own life is notably sheltered from
  648. public view, this is insufficient, and his own prejudices and internal
  649. bile levels, as indicated by the quotes from him, pursuade him that I am
  650. a liar.
  651. Piss off, Eugene. You're a mean, vindictive little guttersnipe who
  652. has nothing better to do than piss in other people's punchbowls, absent of
  653. any perceptible life, overwhelmed with your own feelings of self
  654. importance and righteousness, when in reality you simply suffer from
  655. delusions of adequacy. I rarely use this kind of term, due to its basic
  656. offensiveness to SF/ST fans...but Eugene...get a life, get a grip, get a
  657. clue, but most of all...get away.
  658. jms
  659. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  660. Date: 23 Aug 1994 15:12:45 -0400
  661. Subject: JMS:Are you about to LOSE the
  662. I really don't know the ins and outs of the Detroit situation; I'll
  663. try and find out a bit more.
  664. jms
  665. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  666. Date: 24 Aug 1994 03:53:49 -0400
  667. Subject: JMS: Set suggestion
  668. The end of the central corridor was a painting; correct. And I never
  669. liked it. So over the break, we *built* another 15 or so feet to the
  670. end of the corridor, going up, so now it's quite real, and we can put
  671. stuff in there. Much improved.
  672. jms
  673. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  674. Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:22:39 -0400
  675. Subject: Thoughts on a close rewatch of
  676. One lovely thing about "Signs and Portents," which you picked up on,
  677. is something I like to play with; implying one thing while saying the
  678. opposite. Look at all the shadow's main representative, Morden, does: he
  679. asks people what they want; he gets tossed out of Delenn's quarters; he
  680. is pleasant in his demeanor at all times, never yells, always smiles, and
  681. is courteous; he takes an action which saves one of our main characters,
  682. Londo, from disgrace and resignation, and helps in the process of scragging
  683. the bad guys in the episode.
  684. And yet everyone walks away thinking that the shadows are bad. Which
  685. was of course the intent...by the way in which they did "good."
  686. Kosh prevents humanity from achieving immortality, scares the hell out
  687. of Talia, never gives anyone a straight answer, doesn't seem to mind it if
  688. people fear him...and we walk away with the presumption that he is good,
  689. by virtue of the way in which he did things that were "bad."
  690. In "The Quality of Mercy," I play a similar subtle game; the first
  691. time you hear about the alien device, you're told that it takes the life
  692. force from one person, killing them in the process, and gives it to
  693. someone suffering a terminal disease to restore them. And everybody goes
  694. "yuck, that's awful." But that is *exactly* what happens at the end, and
  695. the general reaction is, "That's good."
  696. This is something I do a lot in my scripts, which I don't generally
  697. see a lot of other people doing. You *really* have to construct the
  698. script very carefully to pull something like this off...a little game
  699. between me and the audience.
  700. jms
  701. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  702. Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:27:02 -0400
  703. Subject: JMS! Episode Titles
  704. I think the double-titles would screw up the methods by which the
  705. residuals are tracked for writers/directors/actors.
  706. jms
  707. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  708. Date: 25 Aug 1994 02:32:45 -0400
  709. Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
  710. Ah, so Glover's message was originally posted in the alt section,
  711. where I wouldn't/couldn't see it, and wouldn't have known about it at all
  712. had there not been the reply here that somehow bounced.
  713. Well, isn't that convenient....
  714. jms
  715. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  716. Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:14:33 -0400
  717. Subject: JMS: Liars and Flames
  718. Thanks; I'm not sure sometimes if this is a good skill or not. Not
  719. only had I been up about 30 hours, but because of the way my GEnie news
  720. reader/mailbox is set up, I can only reply *on-line*, I can't go off,
  721. compose off-line, then upload it...it all has to be written on the fly.
  722. (Maybe it comes from being a Jersey street kid, basically; we used to
  723. hang out on street corners, ranking each other for *hours*, each one
  724. according to the rules having to build upon the one preceding, until they
  725. got amazingly elaborate. Or maybe I'm just a pain in the ass.)
  726. That said, I try very hard *not* to do that. I don't think it's a
  727. good thing in the long run. I see a *lot* of abusive posts, and most of
  728. them I let slide simply because it seems the wiser path. But every once
  729. in a while, somebody'll poke the bear, and it'll be late, and they'll be
  730. completely out of line...and something snaps and next thing I know I'm
  731. 110 lines deep into something and my monitor is imploding.
  732. As for *why* I was up 30 hours straight...Claudia Christian broke
  733. her foot over the weekend. Broke it in *three places*, no less, while
  734. running in her back yard. She had a lot of action in the next couple of
  735. scripts, and was in the midst of filming an episode currently. So the
  736. scripts had to be revised to work around this, and as stated, we were
  737. shooting one, and about to shoot another, and it *all* had to be done in
  738. zero time. By me. Basically, we're talking about rewriting two full
  739. scripts in a couple of days, after which I was half blind and staggering.
  740. So I was just a bit cranky that night....
  741. jms
  742. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  743. Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:14:47 -0400
  744. Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
  745. Morgan...there is a quantum difference between being called a liar,
  746. and receiving criticism on a story. If you cannot see that, that is your
  747. problem, not mine.
  748. "If it wasn't worth your time, then why did you respond?"
  749. Because I felt like it. However, to the rest of your points, which
  750. are specious and irrelevant, I don't feel like it tonight. I will instead
  751. go along with your question, "why respond?"
  752. Good suggestion.
  753. Particularly when applied to your message.
  754. jms
  755. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  756. Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:38:26 -0400
  757. Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
  758. Jim...re: your reply to Morgan...there is a curious neticism that
  759. I've seen all the years I've been riding the nets, and it's nothing new.
  760. It's this: Person A writes something awful/scandalous/abusive about
  761. person B. Person C says nothing. Person B writes a heated reply. Person
  762. C *now* speaks up to say what bad form it is to go after this poor person
  763. who was just exercising his right to speak, and suddenly person B is the
  764. bad guy.
  765. It's okay to impugne someone's career, or life, or honesty, or any
  766. other aspect...but to call the person out for it...no, no, we can't have
  767. that. Nonsense. There is nothing in my agreement with any service that
  768. says I must be a non-responsive, unmoving target. A bully is a bully, and
  769. needs to get responded to. And character attacks must be responded to,
  770. whether or not some people (who had no problem with the original
  771. accusation) find it polite conversation.
  772. Say what you want about somebody...but god forbid the person should
  773. speak up...an intersting philosophy, to say the least.
  774. jms
  775. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  776. Date: 25 Aug 1994 04:38:35 -0400
  777. Subject: Change in Rerun of Believers
  778. There were no changes in dialogue made in "Believers" subsequent to
  779. the first airing.
  780. jms
  781. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  782. Date: 25 Aug 1994 22:10:26 -0400
  783. Subject: JMS: 2nd season writing proces
  784. It's impossible not to have the characters change to varying degrees
  785. once you cast actors to play them. Gradually, Mira's personality has
  786. grown into Delenn, Andreas has added a lot to G'Kar, Garibaldi IS Doyle,
  787. and Boxleitner is bringing a lot to Sheridan. You get to hear the
  788. characters' voices more the deeper you go, season-wise, and that's great.
  789. jms
  790. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  791. Date: 26 Aug 1994 05:28:32 -0400
  792. Subject: JMS: Musical Themes?
  793. We've done a lot with themes over the season, and plan to do more,
  794. developing themes for all our characters. I like interpolating bits and
  795. pieces of the B5 theme into parts of the show; the lower-key version at
  796. the end of "Signs" has always struck me as very effective.
  797. jms
  798. (meant to type "minor key."
  799. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  800. Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:02:16 -0400
  801. Subject: Re: [B5] Liar liar pants on fi
  802. Michael Heser...I don't just respond to flame-bait. I respond to
  803. something on the order of 100 messages a day, out of the 500 per day that
  804. I get. In this one pass on Internet via my GEnie mailbox, I've just
  805. written about 15 so far, and I've got a bunch more to go through. (And
  806. not one was a flame.) This is an aberration, nothing more, and I do
  807. reserve the right to plink somebody upside the nose if he gets
  808. obnoxious. The occasional aberration is good for you (now if only I could
  809. convince my wife of that...).
  810. jms
  811. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  812. Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:02:29 -0400
  813. Subject: JMS: new movie?
  814. Correct, I will be writing the screenplay for the GRIMJACK movie,
  815. which will draw heavily on John Ostrander's story for the Demon Blood and
  816. Demon Wars stories. Whether or not new books are coming I don't know.
  817. jms
  818. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  819. Date: 27 Aug 1994 02:19:54 -0400
  820. Subject: Parallelism in TKO (Possible S
  821. Yes, there are many subtle parallels between the two story elements,
  822. as you note. At its core, is the use of tradition, and respect, as a
  823. means for greater understanding.
  824. jms
  825. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  826. Date: 27 Aug 1994 21:51:10 -0400
  827. Subject: JMS: Conventions
  828. At this point, beyond the Dallas con, and LosCon, nothing much is
  829. planned....
  830. jms
  831. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  832. Date: 28 Aug 1994 01:05:48 -0400
  833. Subject: JMS: Some comments on your "no
  834. Actually, there are varying religions within the alien species as
  835. well; G'Kar is a follower of G'Quan, while Na'Toth's father followed
  836. G'Lan, and Na'Toth herself doesn't really believe in anything (this as
  837. noted in "By Any Means Necessary"). So that diversity isn't strictly or
  838. exclusively human.
  839. jms
  840. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  841. Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:19:38 -0400
  842. Subject: JMS: Warners' Wishlist
  843. I don't recall ever mentioning any memo from PTEN "suggesting that
  844. something be done with the commander or year two, even if just a bunch of
  845. commander-centered episodes." Warners/PTEN said that they would like to
  846. see a bit more character-oriented stories, which was jake by me because
  847. that's what we were aiming for anyway. By virtue of being at least
  848. nominally an action/adventure show, there was always some sense that we
  849. had to have a lot of running around; now they're giving us the freedom to
  850. have more latitude, which by me is terrific. They've given us no other
  851. notes.
  852. jms
  853. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  854. Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:34:36 -0400
  855. Subject: JMS: Some questions...
  856. You will see the healing machine from "Quality" once more. Part of
  857. the reason for that story was to set up something within the B5 universe
  858. that will come in handy a long time later (but I'm *not* going to have it
  859. lying around indefinitely; it would cause lots of long-term complications).
  860. (Some TV shows foreshadow/set-up stuff an act or two ahead of time;
  861. we do setups a full *year* ahead....)
  862. Never saw "Star Blazers," so the Valen name has no relation there.
  863. No idea on coming laserdisk prices.
  864. When Zathras shows up in time, it'll definitely be recognizeable as
  865. Zathras.
  866. jms
  867. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  868. Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:40:08 -0400
  869. Subject: JMS:B5/LSH Parallels Follow-Up
  870. Re: the now-mandatory Psi badge in LSH...yeah, I noticed that too.
  871. If it is indeed a nod in our direction -- and spontaneous duplication is
  872. also always a possibility -- it's actually fun, from my POV.
  873. jms
  874. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  875. Date: 28 Aug 1994 04:44:22 -0400
  876. Subject: Re: JMS: LSH/B5 parallel post-
  877. This one to Kurt Bose...
  878. "We heard about how everything and its mother was derived in some
  879. manner from the ideas this hack was pitching around Hollywood."
  880. So now I'm a hack. Tell me, Kurt, what have *you* done with your
  881. life? I won't post my feelings about my work because that's subjective;
  882. but the nominations for Writers Guild, Bram Stoker, Ace and Gemini Awards
  883. over there on the wall might have a thing or two to say about this...or
  884. the Emmy for Best Animated Series the year I story edited The REal
  885. Ghostbusters...or the Inkpot Achievement Award from the San Diego Comic
  886. Convention...or the recent award from the Space Frontier Foundation for
  887. Best Vision of the Future...shall I go on?
  888. To the point of what your screed said in this part...no, I have never
  889. said what you pillory me for saying. I have certain very strong feelings
  890. about an incident with another series, but that's just the one. You say
  891. "We heard about how everything and its mother was derived in some manner"
  892. from my work...please cite me where I have said this about anything else.
  893. Or I can save you the time...you won't find any, because they aren't
  894. there.
  895. This is trait #1 of the net-bully...come up with an outrageous
  896. statement that someone never made, and then assault them for it. Seen it.
  897. "We heard all about how in HIS show, they weren't going to simply
  898. make all the aliens look like actors in funny makeup. Well suprise, all
  899. the aliens look like humans in funny makeup."
  900. Error #1: once again, I never said it. I said we were going to work
  901. to avoid the funny-forehead scenario with full-head prosthetics. This we
  902. have done.
  903. Second, as earth-shattering to your perspective as this may be, there
  904. are currently no real aliens that we know of living on Earth. No matter
  905. HOW elaborate the makeup, you're going to have an actor in makup (unless
  906. you're doing puppets, as a rule, and this isn't a puppet show). Show me
  907. any movie or series where the main alien characters have been other than
  908. puppets or actors in makup, funny or otherwise.
  909. Third...we are the *first* TV SF series to introduce a computer
  910. graphic alien, in "Grail," and we plan to do more of this next season.
  911. "We were treated to comments from JMS like "Sinclair should really go
  912. over well with the ladies." (This in reference to being cast on sex
  913. appeal.) I'm sorry, but this comment is so boneheaded and contradictory
  914. and illogical that I can't even begin to respond.
  915. Re: "no cute kids or robots," I was referring specifically to regular
  916. cast members. We do not have cute kids as regular cast members. And we
  917. de-emphasize kids in guest-casting. In our entire first season we have
  918. had two, one in a B-story, and the other we killed off. I don't see the
  919. problem which is making you so apoplectic in this.
  920. "If JMS is really saying these things, doing these things, then he's
  921. insane."
  922. And, of course, I didn't, and haven't been. You're seeing them only
  923. in whatever alternate universe you're experiencing through prolonged
  924. exposure to your computer monitor's EMF.
  925. "What I've heard about here and elsewhere makes me feel that his
  926. 'pariah' routine of the put-upon genius whose work is shamelessly copied
  927. makes me wonder if there are REASONS for the role he's adopted."
  928. First, see response #1. Never said it. What "you've heard" has no
  929. bearing whatsoever on objective reality. Nor am I responsible for what
  930. may or may not have been posted on other nets by people other than me. I
  931. am only responsible for what I say. And what I say is generally archived
  932. somewhere, so actually checking the *facts* (I know, another foreign
  933. concept) is extraordinarily easy to do. This you didn't do.
  934. Second: never adopted a pariah attitude; never felt like one; never
  935. said any such thing. Are you feeling okay? Are things all right at
  936. home? Do you hear spirit voices at night whispering into your ears the
  937. things that you'd have *liked* me to have said? A helpful suggestion: if
  938. these voices ever tell you to go save France...don't do it. I've seen
  939. that movie, you wouldn't like the ending.
  940. Finally, what are these REASONS you're wondering about? Nothing like
  941. a little vague innuendo and then zoom-flash out the back door. Speak
  942. plainly. You got something to say, say it.
  943. (And in a note prior, when someone noticed the LSH telepath pin, I
  944. commented that it was probably spontaneous duplication/simultaneous
  945. creation. My first impulse, despite your willingness to attribute to me
  946. some fanatical attitude, is that it wasn't a lift. My second reaction, as
  947. written, is that if it was inspired by the Psi Corps, that it's really
  948. kinda cool...SF literature builds on itself, as with Heinlein coming up
  949. with slidewalks, which were then used by others. I think it'd be cool if
  950. Psi Corps style badges started showing up in LSH; it'd mean that I added
  951. something to the genre.)
  952. Okay..now let's see...I read through all the notes, responded in a
  953. manner without profanity, and ....oh, dear.
  954. No profanity.
  955. Can't have that. So really, Kurt, and I say this with the love of
  956. Jesus in my heart...go fuck yourself.
  957. And next time you want to go around calling someone a "hack," be
  958. prepared to let us all examine *your* work, okay?
  959. jms
  960. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  961. Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:14:03 -0400
  962. Subject: Send not thine tales for death
  963. It does seem unfortunate that we seem to have to go through this
  964. fire drill every few months. Look...the reality is, we manage to go
  965. through 500 or so messages a day (well, *I* go through them), and very
  966. rarely, in ALL the discussion and speculation, does anything come close
  967. to being a story idea. As I commented on GEnie, at 500 messages a day,
  968. seven days a week (3500 messages a week, counting all the various
  969. services I'm on), this has only become a problem *five times*.
  970. But five times is five times, and it never hurts to put out a
  971. reminder...because it's due to those reminders that it HAS been only five
  972. times. Absent those reminders, it would've been more, that you can count
  973. on.
  974. No one is here begruding the rights of people to speculate and
  975. discuss, least of all me. You don't generally see me out here pounding
  976. down on people...the discussions here are very freewheeling, which is as
  977. it should be. This is the one little area that I ask be set aside, and
  978. I just don't see it as a problem.
  979. And I *do* wish that people wouldn't get bogged down in the legalities
  980. of all this. On one level, while that's the core reason I made the
  981. request in the first place, what it comes down to is just courtesy. I am
  982. here for hours each day, unlike any other TV producer, every day, and all
  983. I ask, as a courtesy, is no story ideas being posted. When did we as a
  984. culture hit a point where a request as a courtesy was no longer valid,
  985. and everything had to be accompanied by legalistic wrangling and court
  986. orders?
  987. I ask this one thing as a favor, in return for the hours spent here.
  988. Is this really so great a burden? If people want to discuss story ideas,
  989. or come up with their own stories, all they have to do is set up a
  990. private mailing list to which I don't have access, and they can do so to
  991. their heart's content. All I ask is that you don't do it where I can see
  992. it.
  993. jms
  994. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  995. Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:14:12 -0400
  996. Subject: JMS: Season two episode order?
  997. Episode 1 - Prod. #201 - "Points of Departure," written by jms,
  998. directed by Janet Greek.
  999. Episode 2 - Prod. #202 - "Revelations," written by jms, directed by
  1000. Jim Johnston.
  1001. Episode 3 - Prod. #203 - "The Geometry of Shadows," written by jms,
  1002. directed by Mike Vejar.
  1003. Episode 4 - Produ. #204 - "A Distant Star," written by D.C. Fontana,
  1004. directed by Jim Johnston.
  1005. Episode 5 - Prod. #205 - "The Long Dark," written by Scott Frost,
  1006. director TBA.
  1007. Episode 6 - Prod. #206 - "A Spider in the Web," written by Lawrence
  1008. G. DiTillio, director TBA.
  1009. The first six will be aired in production order.
  1010. jms
  1011. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1012. Date: 28 Aug 1994 05:15:43 -0400
  1013. Subject: Careful with those story ideas
  1014. One clarification: the problem on GEnie wasn't speculation per se,
  1015. but a statement, "How about if Joe does a story about...." That in
  1016. particular turned it (unintentionally, but there it is) into a pitch of a
  1017. story idea.
  1018. jms
  1019. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1020. Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:02:48 -0400
  1021. Subject: Who all should get letters pra
  1022. Letters can be sent to B5 staff and routed to Warners/PTEN through:
  1023. 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423.
  1024. jms
  1025. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1026. Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:19 -0400
  1027. Subject: How important to the Arc is Sh
  1028. How critical was Aragorn to the storyline of Lord of the Rings?
  1029. jms
  1030. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1031. Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:28 -0400
  1032. Subject: JMS: How many eps?
  1033. This is from memory, but after we broke down the stories for the
  1034. second season, and determined who we'd need for what stories, I think it
  1035. came out to 22 each for Sheridan, Ivanova, Garibaldi, Delenn and
  1036. Franklin; 13 for Na'Toth, Vir, Talia, G'Kar and Londo; and 8 for our new
  1037. squadron leader. (Oops, forgot 13 also for Lennier.) Now these are the
  1038. minimum contracted for, we can use them for more as they're needed.
  1039. jms
  1040. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1041. Date: 28 Aug 1994 23:04:37 -0400
  1042. Subject: JMS: Her.?
  1043. The line, "If I knew who God was, I'd thank her," was as written in
  1044. the script. We generally don't allow much improvisation on stage.
  1045. Many thanks.
  1046. jms
  1047. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1048. Date: 29 Aug 1994 03:35:16 -0400
  1049. Subject: Syndication Question
  1050. Okay, I'll try to make this coherent and brief, two concepts that
  1051. don't necessarily relate.
  1052. Here's how it works with B5, which is how virtually all syndicated
  1053. shows work.
  1054. I created B5. Went to Doug Netter, made a handshake deal to make the
  1055. series. Five years pass. Finally we hook up with PTEN. PTEN buys the
  1056. rights to B5, and owns it. They then finance the production of the series
  1057. through Babylonian Productions, which I and Doug own. But the copyright
  1058. to B5 belongs to PTEN, as Star Trek has always belonged to Paramount, not
  1059. Gene R. Rights don't revert to anyone; the rights belong to PTEN unless
  1060. PTEN should cancel the series, after which I believe there's a period of
  1061. about two years, after which it *then* comes back to me.
  1062. As long as PTEN exists, and the show is broadcast, it belongs to
  1063. PTEN, regardless of how many times it's shown. I don't know, or pretend
  1064. to know, what would happen if PTEN ceased to exist, though I'm sure that
  1065. procedures have been set up such that the revenue stream would continue to
  1066. the original parties in PTEN, and the corporation itself would continue as
  1067. a means of funnelling those funds.
  1068. Warners doesn't own PTEN per se; PTEN is a consortium of a core group
  1069. of TV stations in association with Warners, and this executive committee
  1070. votes funding on the show.
  1071. We are in some ways an unusual situation in that we're not a studio
  1072. in-house production, like KUNG FU and TIME TRAX, which were created from
  1073. within the Warners corporate structure.
  1074. jms
  1075. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1076. Date: 29 Aug 1994 03:36:47 -0400
  1077. Subject: Old Red Eyes
  1078. He'll be back soon enough....
  1079. jms
  1080. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1081. Date: 29 Aug 1994 18:54:06 -0400
  1082. Subject: JMS: 'What do you want?' - nod
  1083. Actually, the origin of "What do you want?" comes from encounter
  1084. groups I've run, and from other kinds of group psychotherapy, such as the
  1085. original Synanon games; you ask, "Who are you?" over and over, refusing
  1086. to take the same answer twice, to peel away the fabric of what the
  1087. person is. It's a slight jump to "What do you want?" (I knew that
  1088. degree in Psychology would come in handy one of these days.)
  1089. As for the B5 reference in "OtherSyde," I always knew it would be a
  1090. series, because I've never allowed any other consideration.
  1091. (I think B5 hits Australia later in the fall.)
  1092. jms
  1093. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1094. Date: 29 Aug 1994 19:13:08 -0400
  1095. Subject: JMS: What is this .
  1096. It came from the prop people at Warners/PTEN, who seem to be
  1097. watching an alternate-universe version of the series....
  1098. jms
  1099. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1100. Date: 29 Aug 1994 20:07:06 -0400
  1101. Subject: Sheridan
  1102. Yes, Sheridan is descended from Gen. Philip John Sheridan of the
  1103. Union Army.
  1104. jms
  1105. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1106. Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:16:39 -0400
  1107. Subject: JMS: Speaking of First Comics.
  1108. I would *love* to do American Flagg! as a movie; I think it was
  1109. probably Howard's best moment. I've read a lot of his stuff, but somehow
  1110. after AF! it never did it for me as much as that one did. (And he
  1111. certainly went...well, let's say where no comic has gone before...in Black
  1112. Kiss.) I think the rights might be tied up, however.
  1113. jms
  1114. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1115. Date: 30 Aug 1994 02:22:18 -0400
  1116. Subject: JMS: Arcane story twists et al
  1117. If you look at my scripts, you'll find that generally I write very
  1118. tight, I don't leave a lot of threads hanging as a rule. Same with the
  1119. planned series. No important threads will be left hanging by the end of
  1120. it all. And generally any really significant thread will be wrapped within
  1121. a year of being introduced.
  1122. jms
  1123. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1124. Date: 30 Aug 1994 21:54:13 -0400
  1125. Subject: JMS: Question????????????
  1126. Medlab is the smaller facility exclusively for Dr. Franklin, as
  1127. Chief of Staff. There are larger medical facilities, more like proper
  1128. hospitals, elsewhere on the station.
  1129. jms
  1130. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1131. Date: 30 Aug 1994 22:01:11 -0400
  1132. Subject: A note regarding "V" to jms
  1133. I guess my attitude toward "V" the series (as distinguished from
  1134. the miniseries, which was great) is colored by the rather contemptuous
  1135. attitude of the producers toward SF, and SF fans, leading to their
  1136. decision to bring on soap opera writers. I think they took a wonderful
  1137. concept and just trashed it.
  1138. jms
  1139. From: straczynski@genie.geis.com
  1140. Date: 31 Aug 1994 03:02:09 -0400
  1141. Subject: ATTN JMS: A few questions
  1142. The script called for Garibaldi to take up the Big Massive Gun and
  1143. fire, with a primal YELL that went on forever. Any dialogue at that
  1144. point which replaced the yell came from the actor. The "you're already
  1145. dead" was only relevant to the scene, not T2.
  1146. jms