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### GUIDE ### [3][Background] [4][Synopsis] [5][Credits] [6][Episode
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_Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
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- [13]Notes - [14]JMS
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Overview
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The Army of Light mounts its final assault. Londo learns some
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surprising information about Morden. [15]Ed Wasser as Morden.
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[16]P5 Rating: [17]9.30
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Production number: 406
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Original air week: February 3, 1997
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Written by J. Michael Straczynski
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Directed by Kevin Dobson
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Plot Points
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* The first of Lorien's people were effectively immortal, but later
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generations grew old and died.
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* The Shadows and Vorlons never attacked one another directly
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because their goal wasn't to defeat the opposition in a military
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sense, but to convince their charges, the younger races, to
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forsake the opposing philosophy. Along the way, both races lost
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track of who they were and what they wanted.
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* All the First Ones, including the Shadows and Vorlons, are gone,
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ushering in the third age of mankind (which seems to refer to the
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younger races as a group, not just humanity.) In the first age,
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man was too primitive to be considered part of the larger picture.
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In the second age, man was intelligent and aware of the greater
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world, but his fate was manipulated by outside forces. Now, with
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all the older races gone, man has entered an age of
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self-determination.
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Unanswered Questions
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* What lies beyond the galactic rim? Why do all the elder races want
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to go there?
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* How far did Lorien's broadcast of the conversations with the
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Vorlons and Shadows extend? Just to the crews of the ships at
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Coriana 6, or more broadly than that?
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* Does Londo sending Vir back to Babylon 5 mean that Vir is now the
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Centauri Ambassador?
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Analysis
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* The First Ones were of surprisingly little help, considering the
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trouble to which Ivanova and Lorien went to secure their
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assistance. They amounted to little more than strange-looking
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guns, just there to pop in, destroy the Vorlon planetkiller, and
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do little else (though one of them can be seen destroying a few
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Shadow and Vorlon ships.) Why were the Shadows and Vorlons
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seemingly undisturbed by the intervention of their peers,
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preferring instead to continue fighting as before? Why didn't the
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First Ones do anything about the Shadow planetkiller?
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It could be argued that they had to be present because Lorien
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needed them to see that it was time to depart. But given how
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reclusive most of the remaining First Ones were, they could likely
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have remained right where they were without ever significantly
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affecting mankind's reign of the galaxy. Only the Shadows and
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Vorlons were actively interfering with the younger races. For all
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intents and purposes the remaining First Ones were already gone
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anyway.
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* Sheridan's plan -- luring the Shadows to Coriana 6 with false
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information, then planting bombs in nearby asteroids -- is the
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same strategy he employed to good effect against the Black Star
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during the Earth-Minbari War ([18]"There All the Honor Lies.")
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* The representation of the Shadows and Vorlons while Sheridan and
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Delenn were talking to them was symbolic of their nature. The
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Shadows moved around, shifted form, and spoke with many voices,
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representative of chaos. The Vorlons were frozen in ice, cold and
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aloof and unchanging.
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* The episode's title can be read as a reference to a crucible,
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which certainly fits the theme of the storyline. Sheridan brought
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together the concentrated forces of the Shadows, Vorlons, the
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First Ones, and the younger races; as they were all forced to
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interact, they were transformed.
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* How did Londo know Morden was accompanied by Shadows? Perhaps he
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simply put two and two together after noticing the strange sounds
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near Morden in [19]"Interludes and Examinations," but this is the
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first evidence that Londo has been doing research on Morden's
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associates.
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* What happened to the Shadow hit by the guard's weapon? Was its
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body recovered? In [20]"The Long Dark," when the Shadow warrior
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was killed, it didn't leave a body behind, so perhaps it's some
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kind of standard protection mechanism used by the Shadows and
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their servants.
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* By killing Morden and destroying the Shadow base, Londo has
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probably sealed the fate of Centauri Prime as seen in [21]"War
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Without End, Part Two." As Morden said, the Shadows may be gone,
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but they have allies, and Londo told Sheridan in that episode that
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the Shadows' allies were the ones laying waste to Centauri Prime.
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Whether those allies will also be responsible for putting the
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keeper on Londo isn't clear. If so, they would appear to be after
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more than simple revenge, since they were trying to extract
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information from Delenn.
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Ironically, if Londo had left the base and Morden alone, the
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Vorlons would have turned back anyway, since their planet-killer
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was summoned to Coriana 6 before it fired a shot at Centauri
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Prime. Of course, he had no way of knowing that.
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* As the Vorlon ship passed overhead, Londo and everything around
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him fell under its shadow, underscoring the point about Londo's
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Shadow involvement.
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* After Selini was destroyed, Morden clutched almost desperately at
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his pendant. Just a reflex, or was it perhaps some form of link to
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the Shadows?
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* Given his fate when Sheridan destroyed the White Star on Z'ha'dum,
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and the fact that only extreme intervention restored any semblance
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of his physical body ([22]"The Hour of the Wolf") Morden may
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qualify as "the one who is already dead" from Lady Morella's
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prophecy ([23]"Point of No Return.") By killing Morden and thus
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condemning Centauri Prime to the dismal future seen 17 years
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hence, Londo has plausibly given up a chance to redeem himself.
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* The Shadows themselves may have departed, but what have they left
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behind? Many of their ships were manned by other races. Did the
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pilots leave for the Rim as well, or are there still Shadow ships
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flying around the galaxy? What about their cities on Z'ha'dum, and
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the ships they buried on worlds all over the galaxy? Did all their
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representatives on Earth and elsewhere leave too?
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Similarly, is the Vorlon homeworld now accessible to anyone who
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cares to visit? What did the Vorlons leave behind?
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Lorien also may have left something behind, namely the ship he and
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Sheridan took to Babylon 5 in [24]"The Summoning."
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* Who will force mankind to step down when our time has passed? The
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Vorlons and Shadows likely wouldn't have left were it not for
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Lorien's intervention. With both of them, and their peers, gone,
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there'll be no father figure to coax mankind out of the way
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millions of years hence, when _we're_ the mysterious elder race
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meddling in the affairs of the newcomers.
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Perhaps that role will be filled by Jason Ironheart ([25]"Mind
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War.") He indicated he'd be back in a million years.
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Notes
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* In the initial US broadcast, the end credits were accompanied by
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the theme music from season three, not season four.
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* Reflecting his increased status, Vir's hair appears to be somewhat
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longer in this episode than previously.
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* The space background in the opening sequence, when the White Star
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awaits the arrival of more First Ones, is from a [26]Hubble Space
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Telescope photo, part of the Eagle Nebula.
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* The island of Selini, shown being destroyed by Londo, bears strong
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similarity to the island of Sicily, Italy, as seen from space.
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* The scene in which Lorien tells Ivanova about his people and about
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his immortality was originally written for the previous episode,
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[27]"The Long Night." That's why it takes place aboard Babylon 5
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rather than the White Star, forcing a rather strange detour to the
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station when Ivanova would have wanted to head directly to the
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scene of the battle. When Lorien says, "I was told you were ready
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to leave," he's referring to Ivanova's departure on Sheridan's
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mission to find more First Ones. To cover for this inconsistency,
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an extra line of voiceover dialogue was added to the first scene
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in the episode, Ivanova telling Lorien that they need to get back
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to Babylon 5 and rejoin the fleet.
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* Lorien said there were six First Ones, but only five can be seen
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leaving the scene of the battle. Of course, the sixth might have
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left separately, or Lorien could have been referring to himself.
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* When Londo arrives in the throne room, he gathers his WITS about
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him: he orders the unnamed Minister to gather the ministers of
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War, Information, Transportation, and Security.
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jms speaks
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* One of the things about the way events come to a head and finish
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in ITF is that it's very unnerving...okay, *now* what? The ongoing
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conflict has become something you could count on, you knew the
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rough shape of what might be coming along. Now all that's kicked
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over, and you have to get on with the next aspect: making a new
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life.
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What interests me, what I wanted to do with making this show, was
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in large measure to examine the issues and emotions and events
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that precede a war, precipitate a war, the effects of the war
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itself, the end of the war and the aftermath of the war. The war
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is hardware; the people are at the center of the story.
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* So far the general reaction has been, "But...but...what NOW?"
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which is *exactly* the reaction I was hoping for.
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Everybody keeps commenting, "This is the sort of episode you have
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at the end, not 6 eps into your season." Yep.
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We're funny that way....
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* Now comes more fun...again, it's all about process...going from
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post-war (Minbari) to an uneasy peace, to showing how a war starts
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to come about, the actual beginning of a war, its progress, then
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the aftermath. That arc really is at the core of the show...the
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changes that take place through this process.
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* I've always preferred the arc, both inside an episode, and between
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episodes, and even in the course of a season, where there's the
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resolution and then there's time to consider, reflect, and show
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the impact of these things. It's not just about solving the
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technical problem that way...it's about the people who solve the
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problem and how they are affected by the problems and solutions.
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* It's often the aftermath that holds the greatest interest. The
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Civil War tells one kind of interesting story; the Reconstruction
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that followed, which endured for many years longer than the war,
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tells another, just as interesting story.
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There's a line one of the characters will say soon, "The
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duration's going to be a lot longer than the war." It's a very
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true comment.
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One of my favorite books is "Alas, Babylon," by Pat Frank, which
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is about a nuclear war (written in the early 60s). But the war
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happens entirely off-stage, way in the distance...and the book
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focuses on one small township dealing with the after effects, and
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the day-to-day realities of surviving in a changed world. I've
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always been partial to that kind of storytelling.
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* As for the story being over...not by a long sight. Frankly, some
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of what's coming in the latter part of this season is more intense
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than anything we've done previously. We really focus in on the
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characters and the after-shocks of the war, in ways usually
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ignored.
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After all, we all know how nice and calm and civilized Europe was
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after the War To End All Wars came to an end...we hardly heard a
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peep from that part of the world thereafter....
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* As usual every season, we start out with lighter CGI episodes, and
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build to big stuff as we go. That will be the same this season as
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last. Our first really big CGI episode last season was "Messages,"
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which was around episode #8, then "Severed," episode #10. This
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season we'll hit with big stuff around episode #6, which will
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likely be as big as "Severed." Rather than push stuff back, we've
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been able to move CGI stuff forward and expand on scenes.
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* Just a quick note with two purposes:
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1) to alert folks interested in Lightwave to check out the B5
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episode airing in about 2 weeks, "Into the Fire," the second new
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episode back, to see some nifty stuff one can do when one applies
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oneself. That episode has roughly 114 CGI shots in 43 minutes, and
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are easily some of the most elaborate ever done for TV. (There's
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some nice stuff toward the latter half of this coming week's
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episode, but the following one is the big blow-out.)
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and
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2) to plink the noses of those on here who came on proclaiming
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that "good sources" told them that the CGI EFX on B5 would either
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go to hell, or look crappy, or be less than before. We're now
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doing far more EFX than in any previous season, and more elaborate
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shots. I said these individuals were full of it then, and the
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facts have spoken for themselves in the time since. These
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individuals have since dropped away and gotten real silent. I hope
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they'll be as forthright now that they've been shown to be wrong
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as they were in their original proclamations.
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Otherwise we'd have to assume that these individuals were spewing
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out things they knew weren't true, just to poison the well and
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cause us grief, and I just can't *imagine* that *anyone* would do
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something like that....
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* _Why wasn't the Vorlon shown in its true form?_
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Because we'd still be rendering it. There are 114 EFX shots in
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that episode, and as it was we just barely made the satellite
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uplink. If it wasn't absolutely necessary, better to do it more
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simply. As it was, we were rendering the shadow form too.
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* _Are you happy with having to hurry season four along in case the
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show isn't renewed?_
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Truth: I go back and forth. The "Into the Fire" thing, for
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instance... it would've likely been a two-part episode, but it
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still would've ended up exactly where it ended up. A few more big
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explosions, but I wonder also if that really adds anything past a
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certain point.
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From a production standpoing, since "Fire" darn near killed us in
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the CGI department, it's probably a darned good thing it DIDN'T go
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for 2 eps. That puppy had something around 120 or 140 EFX shots.
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Overall, I'm actually quite happy with how this season is going,
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in terms of the intensity of the arc and the emotions and
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incidents. Parts would've been a bit more laid-back if I had
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decided not to cover my bets on renewal, and maybe the situation
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has worked out to the best (again the ABA principle, Art By
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Accident).
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So I dunno...all I know is what's in the episodes this season, and
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it's pretty cool overall....
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* 1.) The CGI was excellent and seemed very different than in
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previous episodes, much larger, better defined, darker. Was this
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an effort on your part, or the post-production department?"
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We're trying some new rendering techniques...I think they're
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working very well. (Some of the stuff in the next episode has a
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very realistic feel to it.)
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2.) Have you found some way to slow down time or compress the
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episode into a shorter span? When I finished this one, I swore I
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had watched a two hour movie.
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You did. We arranged for a time dilation bubble to appear over
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your house.
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3.) Any reaction from the actor or staff on this one? Especially,
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Ed Wasser? (Might be a bit of spoilers in the answer to this one)
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Ed wants to come back as an alien. I see no problem with this.
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* _Any significance to Morden's pendant?_
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It may have its uses.
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* The shadow voice was definitely Ed Wasser.
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* Yeah, that was Ed's voice. Seemed appropos.
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Definitely didn't want it to end in a big explosion. We've seen
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many of those; how many more can you see? One is the same as the
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other after a while. And if we destroyed everything, how would
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that show we'd grown enough to create the new age? It's a matter
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of evolution, not destruction.
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* I've suggested the use of a minor chords version of the theme
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music to Chris on several occasions, where it seemed right, here,
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Signs and Portents, and in others. The change from minor to major
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chords does signal an emotional transition, and it works well.
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The director initially didn't want to do the Londo rage scene in
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one take; it was something I felt very strongly about, and I think
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it works well.
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BTW, there's another example of a long single take coming up soon,
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on Epsilon 3, which is all I'll specify. I kinda wanted the scene
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to play itself out, without cutting, and to show just how
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amazingly capable some of our actors can be. We're talking here
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almost 4 minutes of footage, not one cut in the whole thing, very
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fast dialogue, and not a single muffed line, with the performances
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working wonderfully. You'll know it when you see it.
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* _Why were the other First Ones still around?_
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They were all still hanging around here, for one reason or
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another, mostly to do with inertia, familiarity...but finally
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recognized that it was time.
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* The Sigma 957 ship was one of the First One ships, yeah.
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* I don't think the shadows speaking through Lyta referred to Delenn
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by name; they said only, "And you they have left for us."
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The jostling from the asteroid was an accident, though the others
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would've figured out what was going on soon enough.
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* _Any relation between the Vorlon representative's outfit and
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Ivanova's in the [28]"All Alone in the Night" dream?_
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No, no relation to Ivanova's outfit. I just wanted a sense of
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something that was both ancient and ageless, frozen, formal,
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distant.
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* The woman was in ice as a symbol of their ridigity, their
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inflexibility, "frozen in time," as the shadows say.
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* _Two ancient adversaries gave up just because Delenn and Sheridan
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told them to?_
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I think that, for me, what mitigates against that is that a) it
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wasn't just Delenn and Sheridan, it was with virtually every other
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major civilization around backing their play, and adding their
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support, their voice, even being willing to die for the sake of
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this confrontation. If it were just the two of them...they'd be
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scragged. The two forces needed to be shown that the others had
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turned against them, and that their true faces had been exposed.
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b) The other key for me is that neither the Vorlons nor the
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Shadows saw themselves as conquerers or adversaries...both
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believed they were doing what was right for us. And like any
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possessive parent, they'll keep on believing that until the kid is
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strong enough to stand up and say, "No, this is what *I* want."
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Most wars tend to end with one singular event...sometimes it's a
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big bomb, or a series of big bombs...and sometimes it comes with a
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negotiation. The two sides meet in a room, sometimes with
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representatives of other nations, and together they hammer out a
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truce, or a peace. There's the Nagasaki solution on the one hand,
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and the "let's meet in a room and talk about this" of Jimmy
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Carter, Anwar Sadat and Minister Begin.
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Both work.
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* There is a definite parent/child/parent dynamic going on there, in
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that Lorien is, in a way, in that role to the Vorlons and the
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Shadows, they're in that role to us, and we're in that role to
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those who will follow. It's the endless cycle.
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* _About the final scene between Lorien and the Vorlon and Shadow
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images_
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One could almost argue for the whole scene as a classic
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"intervention" out of psychotherapy or group counseling.
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Very early on, John Copeland asked me, "Okay, bottom line it for
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me, what's the war about?" I said, "It's about killing your
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parents." And his eyes went wide, and I explained, "No, not
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literally...but at some point you have to step outside the control
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of your parents and create your own life, your own destiny. That
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process is inevitable...and if there are indeed older races, and
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they're interfering, that puts them smack in the middle of that
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same process."
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It's not about who has the biggest gun, because there's *always*
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somebody else with a bigger gun...it's about *understanding* your
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way out of a problem.
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* _Will we ever learn why the first Kosh was more sympathetic to the
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younger races than his replacement?_
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That's a good question, and one of the things I'd like to do (but
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which I can't see any way to do in the series) is the whole story
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of who Kosh was, how he got to be who and what he was, why he felt
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the way he did toward humans (part of it was knowing
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Valen)...maybe this will have to go into one of the novels.
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* _Did Kosh go to B5 knowing that the conflict would soon be over?_
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I think Kosh came late to the table. I don't think he came to B5
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with that intent, but it grew in him over time that this cycle had
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to end, and he could be instrumental to that.
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* The main motive for going beyond the rim...there's a heck of a big
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Taco Bell out there....
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* The notion of the Vorlons and Shadows representing Order and Chaos
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goes back to the Babylonian creation myths, that the universe was
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born in the conflict between order and chaos, hence part of the
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reason I decided to name this show after Babylon. That's called
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*research*. It informs the show, but it is not the show.
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* Certainly Londo would like to avoid his fate, and Lady Morella
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prophesied certain ways of doing this...and he's had some chances,
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and blown them. As you say, he's creating the very future he'd
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hoped to avoid.
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7. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/071.html
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8. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/073.html
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9. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/072.html#OV
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10. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/072.html#BP
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11. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/072.html#UQ
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12. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/072.html#AN
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13. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/072.html#NO
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14. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/072.html#JS
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15. http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Wasser,+Ed
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16. file://localhost/lurk/p5/intro.html
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17. file://localhost/lurk/p5/072
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18. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/036.html
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19. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/059.html
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20. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/027.html
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21. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/061.html
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22. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/067.html
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23. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/053.html
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24. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/069.html
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25. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/006.html
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26. http://oposite.stsci.edu/pubinfo/PR/95/44.html
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27. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/071.html
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28. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/033.html
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29. file://localhost/lurk/lurker.html
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30. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/072.html#TOP
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31. file://localhost/cgi-bin/uncgi/lgmail
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32. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/episodes.php
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33. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/071.html
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34. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/073.html
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35. file://localhost/lurk/lastmod.html
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