The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  4. _Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
  5. - [13]Notes - [14]JMS
  6. _________________________________________________________________
  7. Overview
  8. The Army of Light mounts its final assault. Londo learns some
  9. surprising information about Morden. [15]Ed Wasser as Morden.
  10. [16]P5 Rating: [17]9.30
  11. Production number: 406
  12. Original air week: February 3, 1997
  13. Written by J. Michael Straczynski
  14. Directed by Kevin Dobson
  15. _________________________________________________________________
  16. Plot Points
  17. * The first of Lorien's people were effectively immortal, but later
  18. generations grew old and died.
  19. * The Shadows and Vorlons never attacked one another directly
  20. because their goal wasn't to defeat the opposition in a military
  21. sense, but to convince their charges, the younger races, to
  22. forsake the opposing philosophy. Along the way, both races lost
  23. track of who they were and what they wanted.
  24. * All the First Ones, including the Shadows and Vorlons, are gone,
  25. ushering in the third age of mankind (which seems to refer to the
  26. younger races as a group, not just humanity.) In the first age,
  27. man was too primitive to be considered part of the larger picture.
  28. In the second age, man was intelligent and aware of the greater
  29. world, but his fate was manipulated by outside forces. Now, with
  30. all the older races gone, man has entered an age of
  31. self-determination.
  32. Unanswered Questions
  33. * What lies beyond the galactic rim? Why do all the elder races want
  34. to go there?
  35. * How far did Lorien's broadcast of the conversations with the
  36. Vorlons and Shadows extend? Just to the crews of the ships at
  37. Coriana 6, or more broadly than that?
  38. * Does Londo sending Vir back to Babylon 5 mean that Vir is now the
  39. Centauri Ambassador?
  40. Analysis
  41. * The First Ones were of surprisingly little help, considering the
  42. trouble to which Ivanova and Lorien went to secure their
  43. assistance. They amounted to little more than strange-looking
  44. guns, just there to pop in, destroy the Vorlon planetkiller, and
  45. do little else (though one of them can be seen destroying a few
  46. Shadow and Vorlon ships.) Why were the Shadows and Vorlons
  47. seemingly undisturbed by the intervention of their peers,
  48. preferring instead to continue fighting as before? Why didn't the
  49. First Ones do anything about the Shadow planetkiller?
  50. It could be argued that they had to be present because Lorien
  51. needed them to see that it was time to depart. But given how
  52. reclusive most of the remaining First Ones were, they could likely
  53. have remained right where they were without ever significantly
  54. affecting mankind's reign of the galaxy. Only the Shadows and
  55. Vorlons were actively interfering with the younger races. For all
  56. intents and purposes the remaining First Ones were already gone
  57. anyway.
  58. * Sheridan's plan -- luring the Shadows to Coriana 6 with false
  59. information, then planting bombs in nearby asteroids -- is the
  60. same strategy he employed to good effect against the Black Star
  61. during the Earth-Minbari War ([18]"There All the Honor Lies.")
  62. * The representation of the Shadows and Vorlons while Sheridan and
  63. Delenn were talking to them was symbolic of their nature. The
  64. Shadows moved around, shifted form, and spoke with many voices,
  65. representative of chaos. The Vorlons were frozen in ice, cold and
  66. aloof and unchanging.
  67. * The episode's title can be read as a reference to a crucible,
  68. which certainly fits the theme of the storyline. Sheridan brought
  69. together the concentrated forces of the Shadows, Vorlons, the
  70. First Ones, and the younger races; as they were all forced to
  71. interact, they were transformed.
  72. * How did Londo know Morden was accompanied by Shadows? Perhaps he
  73. simply put two and two together after noticing the strange sounds
  74. near Morden in [19]"Interludes and Examinations," but this is the
  75. first evidence that Londo has been doing research on Morden's
  76. associates.
  77. * What happened to the Shadow hit by the guard's weapon? Was its
  78. body recovered? In [20]"The Long Dark," when the Shadow warrior
  79. was killed, it didn't leave a body behind, so perhaps it's some
  80. kind of standard protection mechanism used by the Shadows and
  81. their servants.
  82. * By killing Morden and destroying the Shadow base, Londo has
  83. probably sealed the fate of Centauri Prime as seen in [21]"War
  84. Without End, Part Two." As Morden said, the Shadows may be gone,
  85. but they have allies, and Londo told Sheridan in that episode that
  86. the Shadows' allies were the ones laying waste to Centauri Prime.
  87. Whether those allies will also be responsible for putting the
  88. keeper on Londo isn't clear. If so, they would appear to be after
  89. more than simple revenge, since they were trying to extract
  90. information from Delenn.
  91. Ironically, if Londo had left the base and Morden alone, the
  92. Vorlons would have turned back anyway, since their planet-killer
  93. was summoned to Coriana 6 before it fired a shot at Centauri
  94. Prime. Of course, he had no way of knowing that.
  95. * As the Vorlon ship passed overhead, Londo and everything around
  96. him fell under its shadow, underscoring the point about Londo's
  97. Shadow involvement.
  98. * After Selini was destroyed, Morden clutched almost desperately at
  99. his pendant. Just a reflex, or was it perhaps some form of link to
  100. the Shadows?
  101. * Given his fate when Sheridan destroyed the White Star on Z'ha'dum,
  102. and the fact that only extreme intervention restored any semblance
  103. of his physical body ([22]"The Hour of the Wolf") Morden may
  104. qualify as "the one who is already dead" from Lady Morella's
  105. prophecy ([23]"Point of No Return.") By killing Morden and thus
  106. condemning Centauri Prime to the dismal future seen 17 years
  107. hence, Londo has plausibly given up a chance to redeem himself.
  108. * The Shadows themselves may have departed, but what have they left
  109. behind? Many of their ships were manned by other races. Did the
  110. pilots leave for the Rim as well, or are there still Shadow ships
  111. flying around the galaxy? What about their cities on Z'ha'dum, and
  112. the ships they buried on worlds all over the galaxy? Did all their
  113. representatives on Earth and elsewhere leave too?
  114. Similarly, is the Vorlon homeworld now accessible to anyone who
  115. cares to visit? What did the Vorlons leave behind?
  116. Lorien also may have left something behind, namely the ship he and
  117. Sheridan took to Babylon 5 in [24]"The Summoning."
  118. * Who will force mankind to step down when our time has passed? The
  119. Vorlons and Shadows likely wouldn't have left were it not for
  120. Lorien's intervention. With both of them, and their peers, gone,
  121. there'll be no father figure to coax mankind out of the way
  122. millions of years hence, when _we're_ the mysterious elder race
  123. meddling in the affairs of the newcomers.
  124. Perhaps that role will be filled by Jason Ironheart ([25]"Mind
  125. War.") He indicated he'd be back in a million years.
  126. Notes
  127. * In the initial US broadcast, the end credits were accompanied by
  128. the theme music from season three, not season four.
  129. * Reflecting his increased status, Vir's hair appears to be somewhat
  130. longer in this episode than previously.
  131. * The space background in the opening sequence, when the White Star
  132. awaits the arrival of more First Ones, is from a [26]Hubble Space
  133. Telescope photo, part of the Eagle Nebula.
  134. * The island of Selini, shown being destroyed by Londo, bears strong
  135. similarity to the island of Sicily, Italy, as seen from space.
  136. * The scene in which Lorien tells Ivanova about his people and about
  137. his immortality was originally written for the previous episode,
  138. [27]"The Long Night." That's why it takes place aboard Babylon 5
  139. rather than the White Star, forcing a rather strange detour to the
  140. station when Ivanova would have wanted to head directly to the
  141. scene of the battle. When Lorien says, "I was told you were ready
  142. to leave," he's referring to Ivanova's departure on Sheridan's
  143. mission to find more First Ones. To cover for this inconsistency,
  144. an extra line of voiceover dialogue was added to the first scene
  145. in the episode, Ivanova telling Lorien that they need to get back
  146. to Babylon 5 and rejoin the fleet.
  147. * Lorien said there were six First Ones, but only five can be seen
  148. leaving the scene of the battle. Of course, the sixth might have
  149. left separately, or Lorien could have been referring to himself.
  150. * When Londo arrives in the throne room, he gathers his WITS about
  151. him: he orders the unnamed Minister to gather the ministers of
  152. War, Information, Transportation, and Security.
  153. jms speaks
  154. * One of the things about the way events come to a head and finish
  155. in ITF is that it's very unnerving...okay, *now* what? The ongoing
  156. conflict has become something you could count on, you knew the
  157. rough shape of what might be coming along. Now all that's kicked
  158. over, and you have to get on with the next aspect: making a new
  159. life.
  160. What interests me, what I wanted to do with making this show, was
  161. in large measure to examine the issues and emotions and events
  162. that precede a war, precipitate a war, the effects of the war
  163. itself, the end of the war and the aftermath of the war. The war
  164. is hardware; the people are at the center of the story.
  165. * So far the general reaction has been, "But...but...what NOW?"
  166. which is *exactly* the reaction I was hoping for.
  167. Everybody keeps commenting, "This is the sort of episode you have
  168. at the end, not 6 eps into your season." Yep.
  169. We're funny that way....
  170. * Now comes more fun...again, it's all about process...going from
  171. post-war (Minbari) to an uneasy peace, to showing how a war starts
  172. to come about, the actual beginning of a war, its progress, then
  173. the aftermath. That arc really is at the core of the show...the
  174. changes that take place through this process.
  175. * I've always preferred the arc, both inside an episode, and between
  176. episodes, and even in the course of a season, where there's the
  177. resolution and then there's time to consider, reflect, and show
  178. the impact of these things. It's not just about solving the
  179. technical problem that way...it's about the people who solve the
  180. problem and how they are affected by the problems and solutions.
  181. * It's often the aftermath that holds the greatest interest. The
  182. Civil War tells one kind of interesting story; the Reconstruction
  183. that followed, which endured for many years longer than the war,
  184. tells another, just as interesting story.
  185. There's a line one of the characters will say soon, "The
  186. duration's going to be a lot longer than the war." It's a very
  187. true comment.
  188. One of my favorite books is "Alas, Babylon," by Pat Frank, which
  189. is about a nuclear war (written in the early 60s). But the war
  190. happens entirely off-stage, way in the distance...and the book
  191. focuses on one small township dealing with the after effects, and
  192. the day-to-day realities of surviving in a changed world. I've
  193. always been partial to that kind of storytelling.
  194. * As for the story being over...not by a long sight. Frankly, some
  195. of what's coming in the latter part of this season is more intense
  196. than anything we've done previously. We really focus in on the
  197. characters and the after-shocks of the war, in ways usually
  198. ignored.
  199. After all, we all know how nice and calm and civilized Europe was
  200. after the War To End All Wars came to an end...we hardly heard a
  201. peep from that part of the world thereafter....
  202. * As usual every season, we start out with lighter CGI episodes, and
  203. build to big stuff as we go. That will be the same this season as
  204. last. Our first really big CGI episode last season was "Messages,"
  205. which was around episode #8, then "Severed," episode #10. This
  206. season we'll hit with big stuff around episode #6, which will
  207. likely be as big as "Severed." Rather than push stuff back, we've
  208. been able to move CGI stuff forward and expand on scenes.
  209. * Just a quick note with two purposes:
  210. 1) to alert folks interested in Lightwave to check out the B5
  211. episode airing in about 2 weeks, "Into the Fire," the second new
  212. episode back, to see some nifty stuff one can do when one applies
  213. oneself. That episode has roughly 114 CGI shots in 43 minutes, and
  214. are easily some of the most elaborate ever done for TV. (There's
  215. some nice stuff toward the latter half of this coming week's
  216. episode, but the following one is the big blow-out.)
  217. and
  218. 2) to plink the noses of those on here who came on proclaiming
  219. that "good sources" told them that the CGI EFX on B5 would either
  220. go to hell, or look crappy, or be less than before. We're now
  221. doing far more EFX than in any previous season, and more elaborate
  222. shots. I said these individuals were full of it then, and the
  223. facts have spoken for themselves in the time since. These
  224. individuals have since dropped away and gotten real silent. I hope
  225. they'll be as forthright now that they've been shown to be wrong
  226. as they were in their original proclamations.
  227. Otherwise we'd have to assume that these individuals were spewing
  228. out things they knew weren't true, just to poison the well and
  229. cause us grief, and I just can't *imagine* that *anyone* would do
  230. something like that....
  231. * _Why wasn't the Vorlon shown in its true form?_
  232. Because we'd still be rendering it. There are 114 EFX shots in
  233. that episode, and as it was we just barely made the satellite
  234. uplink. If it wasn't absolutely necessary, better to do it more
  235. simply. As it was, we were rendering the shadow form too.
  236. * _Are you happy with having to hurry season four along in case the
  237. show isn't renewed?_
  238. Truth: I go back and forth. The "Into the Fire" thing, for
  239. instance... it would've likely been a two-part episode, but it
  240. still would've ended up exactly where it ended up. A few more big
  241. explosions, but I wonder also if that really adds anything past a
  242. certain point.
  243. From a production standpoing, since "Fire" darn near killed us in
  244. the CGI department, it's probably a darned good thing it DIDN'T go
  245. for 2 eps. That puppy had something around 120 or 140 EFX shots.
  246. Overall, I'm actually quite happy with how this season is going,
  247. in terms of the intensity of the arc and the emotions and
  248. incidents. Parts would've been a bit more laid-back if I had
  249. decided not to cover my bets on renewal, and maybe the situation
  250. has worked out to the best (again the ABA principle, Art By
  251. Accident).
  252. So I dunno...all I know is what's in the episodes this season, and
  253. it's pretty cool overall....
  254. * 1.) The CGI was excellent and seemed very different than in
  255. previous episodes, much larger, better defined, darker. Was this
  256. an effort on your part, or the post-production department?"
  257. We're trying some new rendering techniques...I think they're
  258. working very well. (Some of the stuff in the next episode has a
  259. very realistic feel to it.)
  260. 2.) Have you found some way to slow down time or compress the
  261. episode into a shorter span? When I finished this one, I swore I
  262. had watched a two hour movie.
  263. You did. We arranged for a time dilation bubble to appear over
  264. your house.
  265. 3.) Any reaction from the actor or staff on this one? Especially,
  266. Ed Wasser? (Might be a bit of spoilers in the answer to this one)
  267. Ed wants to come back as an alien. I see no problem with this.
  268. * _Any significance to Morden's pendant?_
  269. It may have its uses.
  270. * The shadow voice was definitely Ed Wasser.
  271. * Yeah, that was Ed's voice. Seemed appropos.
  272. Definitely didn't want it to end in a big explosion. We've seen
  273. many of those; how many more can you see? One is the same as the
  274. other after a while. And if we destroyed everything, how would
  275. that show we'd grown enough to create the new age? It's a matter
  276. of evolution, not destruction.
  277. * I've suggested the use of a minor chords version of the theme
  278. music to Chris on several occasions, where it seemed right, here,
  279. Signs and Portents, and in others. The change from minor to major
  280. chords does signal an emotional transition, and it works well.
  281. The director initially didn't want to do the Londo rage scene in
  282. one take; it was something I felt very strongly about, and I think
  283. it works well.
  284. BTW, there's another example of a long single take coming up soon,
  285. on Epsilon 3, which is all I'll specify. I kinda wanted the scene
  286. to play itself out, without cutting, and to show just how
  287. amazingly capable some of our actors can be. We're talking here
  288. almost 4 minutes of footage, not one cut in the whole thing, very
  289. fast dialogue, and not a single muffed line, with the performances
  290. working wonderfully. You'll know it when you see it.
  291. * _Why were the other First Ones still around?_
  292. They were all still hanging around here, for one reason or
  293. another, mostly to do with inertia, familiarity...but finally
  294. recognized that it was time.
  295. * The Sigma 957 ship was one of the First One ships, yeah.
  296. * I don't think the shadows speaking through Lyta referred to Delenn
  297. by name; they said only, "And you they have left for us."
  298. The jostling from the asteroid was an accident, though the others
  299. would've figured out what was going on soon enough.
  300. * _Any relation between the Vorlon representative's outfit and
  301. Ivanova's in the [28]"All Alone in the Night" dream?_
  302. No, no relation to Ivanova's outfit. I just wanted a sense of
  303. something that was both ancient and ageless, frozen, formal,
  304. distant.
  305. * The woman was in ice as a symbol of their ridigity, their
  306. inflexibility, "frozen in time," as the shadows say.
  307. * _Two ancient adversaries gave up just because Delenn and Sheridan
  308. told them to?_
  309. I think that, for me, what mitigates against that is that a) it
  310. wasn't just Delenn and Sheridan, it was with virtually every other
  311. major civilization around backing their play, and adding their
  312. support, their voice, even being willing to die for the sake of
  313. this confrontation. If it were just the two of them...they'd be
  314. scragged. The two forces needed to be shown that the others had
  315. turned against them, and that their true faces had been exposed.
  316. b) The other key for me is that neither the Vorlons nor the
  317. Shadows saw themselves as conquerers or adversaries...both
  318. believed they were doing what was right for us. And like any
  319. possessive parent, they'll keep on believing that until the kid is
  320. strong enough to stand up and say, "No, this is what *I* want."
  321. Most wars tend to end with one singular event...sometimes it's a
  322. big bomb, or a series of big bombs...and sometimes it comes with a
  323. negotiation. The two sides meet in a room, sometimes with
  324. representatives of other nations, and together they hammer out a
  325. truce, or a peace. There's the Nagasaki solution on the one hand,
  326. and the "let's meet in a room and talk about this" of Jimmy
  327. Carter, Anwar Sadat and Minister Begin.
  328. Both work.
  329. * There is a definite parent/child/parent dynamic going on there, in
  330. that Lorien is, in a way, in that role to the Vorlons and the
  331. Shadows, they're in that role to us, and we're in that role to
  332. those who will follow. It's the endless cycle.
  333. * _About the final scene between Lorien and the Vorlon and Shadow
  334. images_
  335. One could almost argue for the whole scene as a classic
  336. "intervention" out of psychotherapy or group counseling.
  337. Very early on, John Copeland asked me, "Okay, bottom line it for
  338. me, what's the war about?" I said, "It's about killing your
  339. parents." And his eyes went wide, and I explained, "No, not
  340. literally...but at some point you have to step outside the control
  341. of your parents and create your own life, your own destiny. That
  342. process is inevitable...and if there are indeed older races, and
  343. they're interfering, that puts them smack in the middle of that
  344. same process."
  345. It's not about who has the biggest gun, because there's *always*
  346. somebody else with a bigger gun...it's about *understanding* your
  347. way out of a problem.
  348. * _Will we ever learn why the first Kosh was more sympathetic to the
  349. younger races than his replacement?_
  350. That's a good question, and one of the things I'd like to do (but
  351. which I can't see any way to do in the series) is the whole story
  352. of who Kosh was, how he got to be who and what he was, why he felt
  353. the way he did toward humans (part of it was knowing
  354. Valen)...maybe this will have to go into one of the novels.
  355. * _Did Kosh go to B5 knowing that the conflict would soon be over?_
  356. I think Kosh came late to the table. I don't think he came to B5
  357. with that intent, but it grew in him over time that this cycle had
  358. to end, and he could be instrumental to that.
  359. * The main motive for going beyond the rim...there's a heck of a big
  360. Taco Bell out there....
  361. * The notion of the Vorlons and Shadows representing Order and Chaos
  362. goes back to the Babylonian creation myths, that the universe was
  363. born in the conflict between order and chaos, hence part of the
  364. reason I decided to name this show after Babylon. That's called
  365. *research*. It informs the show, but it is not the show.
  366. * Certainly Londo would like to avoid his fate, and Lady Morella
  367. prophesied certain ways of doing this...and he's had some chances,
  368. and blown them. As you say, he's creating the very future he'd
  369. hoped to avoid.
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