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### GUIDE ### [3][Background] [4][Synopsis] [5][Credits] [6][Episode
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_Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
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- [13]Notes - [14]JMS
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Overview
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Ambassador Sinclair returns to pull Babylon 4 through time
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([15]"Babylon Squared.") Part 1 of 2. [16]Michael O'Hare as
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Ambassador Sinclair. [17]Tim Choate as Zathras.
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[18]P5 Rating: [19]9.28
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Production number: 316
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Original air week: May 13, 1996
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Written by J. Michael Straczynski
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Directed by Mike Vejar
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_Note: this episode is more momentous than most. Think twice before
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proceeding to the spoilers if you haven't seen it._
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Backplot
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* The last Shadow war nearly ended in defeat when the command
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center, a Minbari space station, was destroyed by Shadow forces.
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But shortly thereafter, a replacement arrived out of nowhere:
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Babylon 4. With Babylon 4 in place, the Minbari, the Vorlons, and
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their allies were able to drive the Shadows off Z'ha'dum and
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destroy a good two-thirds of the Shadows' warships. Until Delenn
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arrived at Babylon 5, the origin of the replacement station was a
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mystery to the Minbari.
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* Six years ago, just before Babylon 4 vanished, some of the
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Shadows' allies recognized the station from the last war. A group
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of Shadow fighters tried to deliver a fusion bomb onto the
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station, whose destruction would look like an accident and would
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lead to a Shadow victory, or a stalemate, in the previous war.
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They were fought off by the White Star, which travelled back in
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time through the rift in Sector 14 to stop them. These events were
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recorded by Varn in the Great Machine.
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* The Great Machine is responsible for opening the time rift and
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allowing Babylon 4 to be pulled backward through time. However,
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opening the rift strains the Machine, and Draal, to its limits.
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* The White Star's Vorlon technology includes the ability to learn
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from past experiences. Its previous encounters with Shadow vessels
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have strengthened its resistance to some Shadow weapons.
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* There is at least one Vorlon on Minbar, a fact that's known to at
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least some of the former Grey Council.
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* In one possible future, Sheridan is destined to win the war
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against the Shadows, but not entirely destroy them; some Shadow
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minions will come to Centauri Prime, where an older Londo reigns
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as Emperor, and lay waste to the capital city.
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* While on Minbar, Sinclair gained a reputation among the Rangers
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for answering questions cryptically.
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* The Rangers were put together with the help of the Grey Council,
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or at least some of its number, including Rathenn, the Minbari who
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restored Sinclair's memory in the comic issue [20]"In Darkness
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Find Me." He's an old friend of Delenn's; she asked Draal about
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him in [21]"A Voice in the Wilderness, Part 1." And he seems to
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revere her, accepting Sinclair's status without question at her
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behest.
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* At the close of the last Shadow war, someone who knew Sinclair
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would be on Minbar left him a note in a sealed box. The box was
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stored in a temple for over nine hundred years with instructions
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to not open it until a specific date, a date which has now
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arrived.
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* During their first visit to Babylon 4, Garibaldi and Sinclair both
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saw the same flashforward of Garibaldi defending the station
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against unknown attackers.
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Unanswered Questions
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* Who left the note for Sinclair? (See [22]Analysis)
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* Sinclair has a scar on his cheek (as also shown in [23]"Babylon
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Squared.") Where did he get it?
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* Where did Delenn's note come from? How long has she had it?
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* What was the Vorlon doing on Minbar? Has he/she/it been there all
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along?
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* How far into the future has Sheridan been thrown?
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* Why did Sheridan end up on Centauri Prime, presumably some
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distance from Sector 14?
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* What did Londo mean by greeting Sheridan, "Welcome back from the
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abyss?"
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* Where did Zathras come from? Has there been a community of his
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people on Epsilon 3 for generations, or are they more recent
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arrivals?
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* Why was Zathras honored to meet Sheridan? What were the things
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Draal instructed him not to mention?
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* When Zathras was looking at the Great Machine, he said, "Not
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good." What was he talking about? Was the strain of opening the
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time rift causing the Machine to malfunction?
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* Were the Shadows, or their allies, also responsible for the
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sabotage of Babylons 1, 2, and 3? If so, why didn't they destroy
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Babylon 4 before it was finished?
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* Did Babylon 4 survive the war? If so, where is it now?
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Analysis
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* It seems likely that Sinclair left himself the note. In
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[24]"Babylon Squared," Sinclair was shown to be present on Babylon
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4 when it shifted through time; and from his message to Garibaldi,
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it seems the note told him he was destined to stay in the past and
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help defeat the Shadows then.
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* If that's correct, and the Minbari holy books contain instructions
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about the box, it suggests Sinclair was involved in writing the
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books. Very possibly he was Valen, "a Minbari not born of Minbar,"
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as Lennier described Valen in [25]"Passing Through Gethsemane."
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Sinclair, as the Grey Council discovered ([26]"Points of
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Departure") somehow has a Minbari soul.
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* Which leads to the question, what does Sinclair's time travel have
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to do with the Minbari soul migration, if anything? Does he have a
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Minbari soul because he's a giant figure from Minbari legend, or
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vice versa?
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* Presumably, if Sinclair is Valen and Draal knows about it, that's
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why Zathras was honored to meet Sinclair. What Zathras knows about
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Sheridan, though, is an open question -- perhaps he has been
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watching recent events unfold on Babylon 5 and simply respects
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Sheridan's stand against Earth and the Shadows.
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* Rathenn appears to defer to Sinclair. If a former member of the
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Grey Council looks to Sinclair for direction, Sinclair must be one
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of the most influential people on Minbar.
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* Londo's description of Sheridan's victory over the Shadows makes
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it sound like a fairly distant event, but the Centauri capital
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city was burning while Sheridan stood there. Perhaps the Shadow
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minions Londo mentioned have been slowly destroying the city,
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building by building, since the close of the war, and the Centauri
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have been powerless to stop them. Or, perhaps, the end of the war
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isn't as far back as Londo implies. (It's interesting to note that
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Londo doesn't appear surprised by Sheridan's appearance or by the
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fact that Sheridan hasn't aged.)
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* Sheridan looks older (his hair is lighter) and may be dressed in
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something other than his uniform as he visits Londo in the throne
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room -- it looks like he's wearing a leather jacket, but his
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outfit isn't shown clearly enough to tell for sure. If it's
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different, though, could his trip forward be along the lines of
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the flashforward experienced by Sinclair and Garibaldi, rather
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than a physical transfer? If so, where is his body?
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* If Babylon 4 is being sent back to help defeat the Shadows in the
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previous war, will other equipment be sent too? For instance,
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loading the docking bays full of Minbari fighters (or better
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still, Vorlon fighters) could do as much to turn the tide of
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battle as the mere presence of the station, especially assuming
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that Minbari and Vorlon weapons have improved in the intervening
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thousand years.
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On the other hand, perhaps the non-destruction of the Shadows in
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the last war wasn't a matter of military strength after all;
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perhaps the Shadows hid somewhere such that they were impossible
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to wipe out. If so, will the same thing happen again? Londo's
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accusation suggests it will, to some extent.
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* How long after Delenn arrived on Babylon 5 did she figure out
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where Babylon 4 came from? Were the Minbari really so uninterested
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in Babylon 4 that the Grey Council never saw a picture of the
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station? Did Delenn recognize the similarity in design as soon as
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she arrived, or did she find a picture of Babylon 4 in B5's
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archives?
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* Along similar lines, was the station not identified as "Babylon 4"
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when it appeared in the past? If it was, the Minbari should have
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at least heard of the Babylon Project in its earlier stages, and
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would have known B4's identity before Delenn arrived on B5. It's
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possible the Minbari lost whatever records contained the name of
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their second base of operations, or that Sinclair convinced the
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Minbari to leave such information out in the interest of not
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altering the future.
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* If the Great Machine opened a rift for Babylon 4 six years ago
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(while, it should be noted, the machine was under Varn's control,
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not Draal's) and can still open a rift today for the White Star,
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will it be able to open other rifts to send more people back? Or
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is Draal simply not as capable of handling the strain as Varn was?
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On the other hand, maybe the original time rift was generated from
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the present day by Draal, and Varn wasn't involved at all. In that
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case, the Machine may only be able to manipulate time once.
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* If B4 was being pulled back in time, why did it reappear four
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years later than it vanished? Sinclair, according to [27]"Babylon
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Squared," interrupted the station's time travel to allow the crew
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to get off. But if it was travelling backward through time, that
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should have caused it to reappear some time before it vanished.
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Maybe B4 will have to be pulled forward to the present day, from
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which point Draal can send it back -- that is, maybe Draal can
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only open rifts between the present day and some other time, not
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between two arbitrary times.
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* The Great Machine's time-manipulation abilities suggest that
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perhaps it was built specifically to pull Babylon 4 back through
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time. If so, who built it, and how did they know about Babylon 4?
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Their technology in that area exceeds the Minbari's, which says
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that the Machine's builders were First Ones. In that case, what
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was the role of Varn's people?
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* Delenn told Sheridan that the Minbari did not have the technology
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to control a time field "as unstable as this one." How much
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time-manipulation technology _do_ they have?
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* If there's a Vorlon on Minbar, could it have been responsible for
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Delenn's childhood vision ([28]"Confessions and Lamentations?")
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* In [29]"Babylon Squared," Zathras hands his time stabilizer to the
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space-suited figure (possibly Sinclair,) who promptly vanishes.
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Was that a replacement for Sheridan's stabilizer, or for another
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broken one?
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* Ivanova's wish has come true -- she's on Babylon 4 and Garibaldi
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is left behind. ([30]"Babylon Squared")
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* In Ivanova's distress call, she says, "This is Earth Alliance
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station Babylon 5." Presumably in the heat of the moment her Earth
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Force training kicked in and she didn't consider that B5 isn't an
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Earth Alliance station any more. (See [31]jms speaks.)
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Notes
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* As in [32]"Babylon Squared," the term "unstuck in time" is a
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reference to Kurt Vonnegut Jr.'s "Slaughterhouse Five."
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* Garibaldi's attempted passwords: "Jeff," "Jeffrey," "peekaboo"
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(Garibaldi's computer password, most recently used in
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[33]"Ceremonies of Light and Dark,") "Susan," "Michael," "socks,"
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"fasten," "zip" (the last three from the conversation between
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Sinclair and Garibaldi on their way to Babylon 4 in [34]"Babylon
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Squared,") and finally, "hello, old friend," Sinclair's opening
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line in the message delivered to Garibaldi by the Ranger in
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[35]"The Coming of Shadows."
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* Viewers outside North America may have some difficulty recognizing
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all the partnerships to which Sinclair compares himself and
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Sheridan. "Butch and Sundance" were Butch Cassidy and The Sundance
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Kid, two outlaws from the days of the Old West (of more recent
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fame for the movie in which they were portrayed by Paul Newman and
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Robert Redford). "Lewis and Clark" were not Lois Lane and Clark
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Kent, but Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, who explored much of
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the territory of the Louisiana Purchase (a vast expanse between
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the Mississippi River and the Rocky Mountains that the United
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States acquired from France in 1803) from 1804 to 1806, eventually
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reaching the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest. "Lucy and
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Ethel" were Lucy Ricardo and Ethel Mertz, the characters portrayed
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by Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance in the 1950s sitcom "I Love
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Lucy."
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* The building in which Sinclair and Rathenn talk bears some
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resemblance in outline to the encounter suit of the Vorlon inside
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-- and even more resemblance to a Shadow.
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jms speaks
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* _November 30, 1995_ - As I write this, I've just started writing
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"War Without End, Part One," #316, the first part of the two
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episodes that bring Sinclair to Babylon 5, which we'll shoot
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sometime after the first of the year. It's been touch and go, but
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we've finally been able to schedule all of the guest cast members
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from "Babylon Squared" for this one, which is the flip side of
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that episode. It's probably going to be the most expensive show
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we've done yet, due to the hideous production requirements for
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this one. It's also the one I'm most nervous about writing, even
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more than "Fall of Night," because an awful lot happens here, and
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it has to be done just right. It's going to be probably the
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toughest writing job of the series to date.
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I'll be putting Sinclair and Sheridan together a lot, which is
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shaping up to be an interesting combination. We're also going to
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see Minbar for the first time.
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* "In WWE(1)I noticed a larger than usual group of offhand lines
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(ethel &.../wait in car.../cool-you know what I'm talking about).
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Was this scripted? Or was someone just ad libbing?"
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There's almost NO ad-libbing allowed on the show. You can't change
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a word unless someone comes to my office and approves it, and it
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can't change the meaning. (I.e., the actor is having a hard time
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saying "shibboleth" or something.) Everything said in this show is
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scripted, offhand comments included.
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* _Did you work out the circular sequence of events as you went, or
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was it all mapped out beforehand?_
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No, it all has to hang together, or it's kinda useless. It just
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required working out the details of what was, is, and will be.
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Then I walked on water....
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* _Why didn't Sinclair interact with G'Kar?_
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The problem is that you've got about 42 minutes to tell your
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story. You have to get into it, and get into it fast. Unless
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there's a reason for the scene to be there, if it doesn't move the
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plot along, it shouldn't be there. You'll note there isn't even a
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B-story in the two-parter...there wasn't room.
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Sure, it would've been nice to have Sinclair meet G'Kar, sit
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around, talk about how they've changed...have Sinclair and Londo
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meet, talk about stuff...have him and Ivanova sit around, talk
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about stuff...but then you've got just a bunch of scenes that are
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basically, "Well, hello, how've you been?"
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The next sounds you would've heard would be the click of remote
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controls changing channels across the nation.
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As it is, in that two-part episode, you've got Delenn, Garibaldi,
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Sinclair, Sheridan, Marcus, Ivanova, Lennier, Zathras, Major
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Krantz, Krantz's second...it's our most character-intensive
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episode in a long time, all of them being present in every other
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scene, plus the other three characters we see in part two. It was,
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quite simply, stuffed to the gills, and there wasn't room for a
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single wasted word.
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That's the difference between a novel and a television show; you
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can stop the action in a book as often as you want to have asides,
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but you can't do that in TV with as much facility. To do the
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scenes you describe would've meant turning this into a
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three-parter, and as it is part one is almost an extended teaser
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for part two. It would've been moreso with these additional
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scenes.
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If it isn't necessary, it shouldn't be there.
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* It would've been nice to see some of those scenes, it just wasn't
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practical. And you have to make hard choices. As someone once said
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of writing, "You have to kill all your darlings," meaning the
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nifty little things you'd *like* to do, as opposed to the things
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you *have* to do.
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* Actually, Mike Vejar is directing the two-parter, and I'm
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absolutely thrilled about it; Mike's been our mainstay for some
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time, and he's just terrific. (He directed "Convictions," and
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"Inquisitor.")
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* Well, reactions have been coming in on the two parter, and so far
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everyone's wog-boggled. Peter Jurasik called to say he didn't know
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what I'm smoking these days, but to please send ten pounds of it
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to his house at *once*. Mumy went nuts over it, everyone's very
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excited...including and especially Michael O'Hare, who got his
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copy of the script today, read it straight through, and is
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*extremely* excited by the story, and what happens with his
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character, and is VERY much looking forward to the shoot.
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* (Oh, and lest I forget, yes, Zathras does return in "War," as does
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Sinclair, who has a lot of great scenes with Marcus, Sheridan,
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Delenn, Zathras and others. It also has some real surprises in
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store, including some flash-forwards from WAY down the line.)
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* _January 22, 1996_
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Today was a very interesting day; today Michael O'Hare returned to
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the Babylon 5 stages in preparation for shooting the two-parter,
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which begins tomorrow. Today he came by for his wardrobe fitting
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and to get his hair trimmed, say hi to folks, and hang out...lunch
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was me, John Copeland, Michael and Bruce Boxleitner eating
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together at one of the tables in the lunch area behind the stage,
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lots of laughing and kidding, and the two get on great. (Turns out
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they'd worked on other projects before, including the short-lived
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A Rumor of War series by Sterling Siliphant.)
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Anyway, it's a great atmosphere, and everybody's psyched for the
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two-parter. It's like he never went away.
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* _January 23, 1996_
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[...] today is Michael O'Hare's first day of shooting here on the
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B5 stages for the two-parter, featuring his return to the station
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from Minbar, and propels him into the center of attention for most
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of the two parts. Everyone's having a great time so far, he and
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Bruce have been hanging out a lot, and the episode should be a
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real toad-strangler when it's finished.
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* A toad-strangler, a barn-burner, a doozy...it's a good thing.
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* _Won't Sheridan and Sinclair both be standing around giving
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orders? _
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The similarity is only if you choose to define them by their
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narrow roles. Their personalities are vastly different. Also,
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Sinclair's been through a lot in the intervening couple of years,
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he's grown, he and Marcus would definitely have something of a
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relationship since he would've been there while Marcus was being
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trained, and so on. And their roles in the story are very
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different.
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* My guess is that "War Without End" may well pass by [36]"CoS" as
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all time favorite...until the next one comes along.
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* _Did you reuse footage from [37]"Babylon Squared?"_
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We did both; we reshot some scenes from B2, and used some footage
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directly from that episode. Some pretty elegant matches, too, I
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think.
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* The vision of B5 blowing was the same as the one from [38]Signs.
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* _Why weren't the new uniforms in the flashforward in "Babylon
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Squared?"_
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We only saw the black flak uniforms in B2, because I knew we'd be
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changing them, but wanted to hide that fact (as I did with
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Delenn's line to Sinclair in B2, done off-camera to hide her
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change). And the Minbar cityscape was done by Eric Chauvin.
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* _About Ivanova cracking under pressure_
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With most of their systems down, everyone around her dead,
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Sheridan dead, knowing she's about to die and there's nothing she
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can do about it, and obviously knowing full well who's out
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there...about to witness the deaths of a quarter million sentients
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on the station...I felt a bit of an outburst, a final letting go
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of the emotions, was not inappropriate for her. (Although I do
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think Claudia may have played it a bit too hysterical at times;
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separate the lines from the performance and look at it again.)
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* "You hand this woman a script and say to her, 'Miss C., everyone
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around you is dead and you are in command.
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The station is falling down around you and you're in terrible
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pain, about to die by decompression or laser burns or crushing--or
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worse, you could become a Morden and be controlled by the Shadows
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the rest of your life.
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You have no hope of rescue.
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You may not know where you are.'
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And then you say she was a tiny bit on the hysterical side?"
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Hey...from where I sit, that's just another day at the office.
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Don't know many producer/writers, do you?
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* I don't believe anyone on Minbar was wearing shorts. It's not the
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season for that.
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* _Was the voice of the Vorlon on Minbar the same actor who did
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Kosh?_
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Yes, that was Ardwight again.
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* There probably wasn't a credit there because it was an incidental
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voice rather than a recurring voice.
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The other Vorlon also sounded different because I directed
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Ardwight in different inflections...literally stood there outside
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the booth using my hand like a baton to indicate the rising and
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falling inflections as he spoke, to give it a wave kind of sound.
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* _Sinclair's Minbari words are subtitled "alright," which is a
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misspelling -- it's really "all right."_
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Yep, it was misspelled, and it wasn't misspelled in the script.
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When I saw that on the final tape, it was too late to correct it
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for this airing. It'll be corrected later. (Somebody wasn't being
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careful when they did the captioning.)
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* As Sinclair notes when he arrives at B5, his status as ambassador
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is pretty much gone after the coup.
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* _Won't Earth ask where its ambassador is?_
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Well, Minbar isn't being very receptive to Earth at the moment,
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and will probably just put them on hold...indefinitely....
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* _How did Sinclair get so cryptic so quickly?_
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He was kinda Zen when he left, frankly...and two years living
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among Minbari, learning their language, learning to think the way
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they do, learning the whole history of the shadow war...that can
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have a pretty profound effect on you. It obviously wasn't all
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hanging around the Hyatt Minbar and watching reruns of I Love
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Lennier for two years....
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* _Sinclair wasn't on Mars during the riots in the first season, so
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how does Sheridan know him from them?_
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It's been established that there have been previous riots on Mars,
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including the food riots referenced in, I believe, the pilot.
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* _Will the relationship between Delenn and Sheridan cause problems
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with Sinclair?_
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Well, remember that we never defined what those feelings were
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between Sinclair and Delenn; she had a great deal of respect and
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admiration for him, yes. And she had a fair measure of faith in
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him as well. Question is, what's the root of that? We'll learn
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some of that in the two-parter. As for Sinclair, he was mainly
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involved with Sakai.
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* Sakai certainly wouldn't have wanted to get tied down to life on
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Minbar, and Sinclair knew that his life would be difficult now
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with the rangers, so they parted ways.
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* Marcus's look came because he overheard the Minbari-language part
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of the discussion, and knew something was up. It made him more
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watchful of Sinclair, which pays off in WWE2.
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* I like Zathras...he's just nuts.
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* _Will we learn who Zathras' people are?_
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Eventually, though that answer isn't terribly important.
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* _Why didn't the Shadows destroy B5 before it went online?_
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B5 wasn't destroyed because it wasn't the one that would be taken
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back. Yes, the prior stations would've looked more like B4 but
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they were sabotaged *very* early in the construction process.
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You'll learn why he didn't want Garibaldi along next ep.
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* The B1-B3 sabotages had nothing at all to do with the B4
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situation; it was just done by forces opposed to the very notion
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of the Babylon Project.
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* The first 3 Babylon stations never got much past the very earliest
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stages of construction, just some hull elements, that sort of
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thing, nothing that could be recognized. Other forces took them
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out, mainly for political reasons.
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* B4 survived the prior shadow war, but in very bad shape; didn't
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last much longer after that.
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* _Is the war room staffed continuously?_
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Yes, the war room would have to have support personnel there when
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the big guys are off having fun or sleeping.
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* _Why did Sheridan's clothes change?_
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His clothing is different because that's the future Sheridan, into
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whom the current Sheridan has sort of slid....
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* _Was whatever destroyed Sheridan's stabilizer related to the
|
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creature in "Knives?"_
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No, that was just the result of the blast.
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* The energy being that got Sheridan in "Knives" had no relation to
|
|
anything in the ongoing story; it just existed outside our normal
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|
universe, and got in and out via the rift (which also served to
|
|
remind us that it was still there).
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* Sheridan "leapt" into his future self, hence the difference in
|
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wardrobe and appearance. Londo wasn't suprised to see him. If you
|
|
recall the Centauri guard when we first arrive in the Palace, he
|
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says, "I think he's awake again, would you like to see?" The
|
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implication being that he's been beaten into unconsciousness,
|
|
hence Londo's line, "Welcome back from the abyss." It was at that
|
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moment of unconsciousness that he "slid" into his future self.
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* The time-flash (which in Sheridan's case is much more pronounced
|
|
than what we've seen before) slides you forward or backward in
|
|
time to where you are at that moment. At that moment, 18 years
|
|
from now (in the story), Sheridan was/will be on Centauri Prime.
|
|
So when he slid along the time line, that's where he ended up.
|
|
Just as in Babylon Squared, when Garibaldi had a timeflash back to
|
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his time on Mars. It blips your perception to another point in
|
|
your life, wherever you happen to be.
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* Sheridan slid forward in time, to wherever he was at that moment
|
|
in the future. He didn't just go hopping around aimlessly; if he
|
|
flipped 10 days ahead, he'd come into his body at that point 10
|
|
days from now, wherever he happened to be. At that moment, 17
|
|
years down the road, he happened to be on Centauri Prime.
|
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* I'd rather let part 2 get into what exactly happened to Centauri
|
|
Prime....
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* _Has Sheridan slid past his death on Z'ha'dum?_
|
|
Well, who can say at this point *what* happens on Z'ha'dum...?
|
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* _Would the future Sheridan notice being slid into?_
|
|
The future Sheridan would have a little memory of what happened
|
|
during that time, but it'd be almost dreamlike, two steps removed.
|
|
* _How did the Shadows know about Babylon 4?_
|
|
Well, if the Minbari had records of B4's visual look, given that
|
|
the Shadows are advanced, would they not also have the potential
|
|
to recognize it for what it was once it was nearing completion
|
|
from their own records?
|
|
* _Did the Minbari agree to help fund B5 because they knew about B4?_
|
|
No, because if you remember, even Delenn didn't know where B4 came
|
|
from until she came to B5, well after completion.
|
|
* _Why don't the Minbari have many records of the last war?_
|
|
It was also a very devastating war, and one of their mistakes was
|
|
that there were those who were entrusted to keep the past, sort of
|
|
a more advanced version of storytellers, who put all their data in
|
|
one basket, as it were...very possessive and jurisdictional. When
|
|
they and that center of data were taken out, a lot was lost. One
|
|
drawback of a very rigid and structued society.
|
|
* _But if that happened early in the war, wouldn't they have records
|
|
from after that point?_
|
|
Certainly it would've occured in the last days of the war.
|
|
* _Do the Minbari have time travel?_
|
|
They've played with some research in this area, but they aren't
|
|
anywhere near the tech required to actually do anything with time.
|
|
* _Why hasn't Minbari ship design changed?_
|
|
The design *has* changed; the main section is much longer, and
|
|
more primitive looking, less tricked out. You can see a bit of it
|
|
there, but you will see them in more detail in part two.
|
|
Sinclair was scarred during ranger training duties.
|
|
* _Would arguing with Kosh in [39]"Interludes and Examinations" have
|
|
been the original source of the scar?_
|
|
No, because you'll note that Sheridan isn't scarred by it. No, you
|
|
have to remember that one doesn't just transplant one storyline
|
|
onto another. It doesn't work that way. Sinclair has his arc,
|
|
Sheridan has his own.
|
|
* Sheridan wasn't a "backup" for Sinclair, he was brought in
|
|
specifically because I needed somene who could and would do things
|
|
in a different way, and had a different arc. If it was going to
|
|
track 1-to-1 you wouldn't *need* a new character.
|
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And the swipe Kosh took at Sheridan wouldn't be *nearly* enough to
|
|
cause a huge scar like that.
|
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* "1) Assuming the present is the time period during which we watch
|
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Babylon 5 and the period we saw at the beginning of the WWE
|
|
episode, does the possible fall of B5 (if the mission fails) take
|
|
place in the past or the future? We see Ivanova screaming in the
|
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mysterious transmission that "they're killing us" and that the
|
|
Captain is dead, so I assume this indicates that the possible fall
|
|
of B5 takes place in the future since Sheridan is the only Captain
|
|
(Sinclair was a Commander, non?). But we also see Sinclair
|
|
reliving his flashback with Gerabaldi from Season one in which B5
|
|
falls, and he then seems to indicate that his mission is to
|
|
prevent such a catastrophe. Since Sinclair is there, with
|
|
Gerabaldi, this would seem to suggest that the fall of B5, if the
|
|
mission fails, takes place in the past in relation to the present
|
|
with which we are all familiar.(Breath) So, if the mission fails,
|
|
when will B5 fall; past of future??? Or perhaps put another way:
|
|
Will B5 possibly fall under Sheridan's command or Sinclair's? <--
|
|
God, that's complicated."
|
|
Nope. The scenes are all in the future. Garibaldi specifically
|
|
identifies the distress call as coming from 8 days in the future.
|
|
Sinclair's vision wasn't a flashback, but a flash forward; even
|
|
the blowing of B5 was identified by Lady Ladira as in the future.
|
|
It's *always* been placed in the future, though most of this was
|
|
in the first season, which hasn't been reshown. Also, in the first
|
|
act, Garibaldi again *specifically states* that when they went to
|
|
B4, there was a glimpse of the future and the fall of B5.
|
|
"2) Faced with the end, why would the bloodied Ivanova feel
|
|
compelled to deliver a play-by-play to a non-existant audience? Or
|
|
even to one that is there? I found that strange."
|
|
First she was trying to get help. Second, there should be some
|
|
record of what happened for those who would investigate. They
|
|
would need to know, just the way a signal operator sends out a
|
|
distress call for as long as possible as the ship sinks. SOP.
|
|
"4) About Delenn's slide show: It looks as though Minbari ships
|
|
have remained basically the same for the past 1000 years. I could
|
|
not see one change. Why is that?"
|
|
Because you weren't looking closely enough. The older Minbari
|
|
ships are much longer and tubular in design; you'll see them
|
|
better in the second half, but there's definitely a difference.
|
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"5) The preview showed Gerabaldi giving 'em hell with a big gun.
|
|
Why wasn't that in the episode (I know, some scenes in previews
|
|
don't show up in the actual ep, but it seemed important)?"
|
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Because we were seeing the sequence from Sinclair's point of view;
|
|
he was gone by the time Garibaldi began firing, so he wouldn't
|
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have seen it. Story logic.
|
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"7) Londo spoils us all by telling us Sheridan wins the
|
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war--suspense exit stage left--unless the time line is somehow
|
|
further altered, which would go against the inevatability theme
|
|
JMS seems to be playing."
|
|
Okay, everybody who thought I was going to have our heroes fight a
|
|
war for two whole years or so, and then *lose it*...a major
|
|
dramatic disappointment to say the least...raise your hands.
|
|
In any event...quite frankly, several of your "serious nitpicks"
|
|
are actually incorrect, and come from making assumptions or simply
|
|
not paying attention when someone says something clearly in
|
|
dialogue, as Garibaldi does, that the flash was of future events,
|
|
and then IDs the signal as from 8 days ahead.
|
|
* _If Sinclair had stayed with the station, who would have been
|
|
transported to Centauri Prime?_
|
|
I appreciate the questions, but there are so many alternate
|
|
timelines flying around right now...I'm not sure I want to further
|
|
complicate the issue.
|
|
* I could answer this, but if I expand the time paradox loop any
|
|
further, I would end up not answering it because I'd already
|
|
answered it, which means it wouldn't get answered, requiring me to
|
|
answer it now, and pretty soon the universe implodes, and I don't
|
|
want that on my conscience.
|
|
* There are no alternate univeses, only alternate or possible
|
|
futures. If they didn't go back, the future in which Sinclair is
|
|
there with Garibaldi -- having come back to see through the final
|
|
battle -- and in which Sheridan is killed, and Ivanova is calling
|
|
for help...that future will come true.
|
|
* _Why was Garibaldi left behind?_
|
|
It's a story point, and it'll be explained clearly in part two.
|
|
What, you think I'd have something this odd going on and not
|
|
explain it?
|
|
It's coming. Be patient.
|
|
* _The flash to the firefight was Sinclair's, not Garibaldi's._
|
|
Actually...incorrect. Whenever there's a timeflash, people see one
|
|
thing or another. When Sinclair and Garibaldi first came aboard,
|
|
there was a timeflash. We saw what Sinclair saw, we have no idea
|
|
from that scene what Garibaldi saw. No reason he couldn't have
|
|
seen something from about that same period. It wasn't stated
|
|
either way at the time.
|
|
* _But Krantz said it was different for everyone._
|
|
Hey, who're you gonna believe, Krantz or me?
|
|
Besides, it could've been a sequence from the fall of B5, but not
|
|
that exact MOMENT, so it WOULD be different, so NYAH.
|
|
(suddenly I'm five years old)
|
|
* _How did Zack know about the White Star?_
|
|
The White Star has been common knowledge ever since it came in at
|
|
the end of "Severed Dreams." Certainly, by virtue of being
|
|
Garibaldi's second in command, he'd know about it. At this point,
|
|
most everything is out in the open now.
|
|
* I'm sure Garibaldi will eventually end up on the White Star; and
|
|
the Minbari will also probably begin slowly acquiring English, and
|
|
vice versa.
|
|
* _Why was Delenn so nervous after Sheridan vanished?_
|
|
She didn't know what was coming, and that worried her. She is most
|
|
secure when she has a definite plan of action, and variables
|
|
aren't something the Minbari are good at in any event, they're
|
|
very rigid and structured.
|
|
And we'll be seeing the Sigma walkers again in the not too distant
|
|
future. And some of their pals.
|
|
* _Was Sinclair speaking Minbari during his entire conversation with
|
|
Delenn, with English presented for the viewers' benefit?_
|
|
No, he slid into Minbari at that point to try and conceal what was
|
|
being said from the others on the bridge.
|
|
* _Why did Ivanova claim B5 was an Earth Alliance station?_
|
|
The name of the station is still the same; it was built by the
|
|
Earth Alliance. So that's how she'd refer to it.
|
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