The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  4. _Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
  5. - [13]Notes - [14]JMS
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  7. Overview
  8. Ambassador Sinclair returns to pull Babylon 4 through time
  9. ([15]"Babylon Squared.") Part 1 of 2. [16]Michael O'Hare as
  10. Ambassador Sinclair. [17]Tim Choate as Zathras.
  11. [18]P5 Rating: [19]9.28
  12. Production number: 316
  13. Original air week: May 13, 1996
  14. Written by J. Michael Straczynski
  15. Directed by Mike Vejar
  16. _Note: this episode is more momentous than most. Think twice before
  17. proceeding to the spoilers if you haven't seen it._
  18. _________________________________________________________________
  19. Backplot
  20. * The last Shadow war nearly ended in defeat when the command
  21. center, a Minbari space station, was destroyed by Shadow forces.
  22. But shortly thereafter, a replacement arrived out of nowhere:
  23. Babylon 4. With Babylon 4 in place, the Minbari, the Vorlons, and
  24. their allies were able to drive the Shadows off Z'ha'dum and
  25. destroy a good two-thirds of the Shadows' warships. Until Delenn
  26. arrived at Babylon 5, the origin of the replacement station was a
  27. mystery to the Minbari.
  28. * Six years ago, just before Babylon 4 vanished, some of the
  29. Shadows' allies recognized the station from the last war. A group
  30. of Shadow fighters tried to deliver a fusion bomb onto the
  31. station, whose destruction would look like an accident and would
  32. lead to a Shadow victory, or a stalemate, in the previous war.
  33. They were fought off by the White Star, which travelled back in
  34. time through the rift in Sector 14 to stop them. These events were
  35. recorded by Varn in the Great Machine.
  36. * The Great Machine is responsible for opening the time rift and
  37. allowing Babylon 4 to be pulled backward through time. However,
  38. opening the rift strains the Machine, and Draal, to its limits.
  39. * The White Star's Vorlon technology includes the ability to learn
  40. from past experiences. Its previous encounters with Shadow vessels
  41. have strengthened its resistance to some Shadow weapons.
  42. * There is at least one Vorlon on Minbar, a fact that's known to at
  43. least some of the former Grey Council.
  44. * In one possible future, Sheridan is destined to win the war
  45. against the Shadows, but not entirely destroy them; some Shadow
  46. minions will come to Centauri Prime, where an older Londo reigns
  47. as Emperor, and lay waste to the capital city.
  48. * While on Minbar, Sinclair gained a reputation among the Rangers
  49. for answering questions cryptically.
  50. * The Rangers were put together with the help of the Grey Council,
  51. or at least some of its number, including Rathenn, the Minbari who
  52. restored Sinclair's memory in the comic issue [20]"In Darkness
  53. Find Me." He's an old friend of Delenn's; she asked Draal about
  54. him in [21]"A Voice in the Wilderness, Part 1." And he seems to
  55. revere her, accepting Sinclair's status without question at her
  56. behest.
  57. * At the close of the last Shadow war, someone who knew Sinclair
  58. would be on Minbar left him a note in a sealed box. The box was
  59. stored in a temple for over nine hundred years with instructions
  60. to not open it until a specific date, a date which has now
  61. arrived.
  62. * During their first visit to Babylon 4, Garibaldi and Sinclair both
  63. saw the same flashforward of Garibaldi defending the station
  64. against unknown attackers.
  65. Unanswered Questions
  66. * Who left the note for Sinclair? (See [22]Analysis)
  67. * Sinclair has a scar on his cheek (as also shown in [23]"Babylon
  68. Squared.") Where did he get it?
  69. * Where did Delenn's note come from? How long has she had it?
  70. * What was the Vorlon doing on Minbar? Has he/she/it been there all
  71. along?
  72. * How far into the future has Sheridan been thrown?
  73. * Why did Sheridan end up on Centauri Prime, presumably some
  74. distance from Sector 14?
  75. * What did Londo mean by greeting Sheridan, "Welcome back from the
  76. abyss?"
  77. * Where did Zathras come from? Has there been a community of his
  78. people on Epsilon 3 for generations, or are they more recent
  79. arrivals?
  80. * Why was Zathras honored to meet Sheridan? What were the things
  81. Draal instructed him not to mention?
  82. * When Zathras was looking at the Great Machine, he said, "Not
  83. good." What was he talking about? Was the strain of opening the
  84. time rift causing the Machine to malfunction?
  85. * Were the Shadows, or their allies, also responsible for the
  86. sabotage of Babylons 1, 2, and 3? If so, why didn't they destroy
  87. Babylon 4 before it was finished?
  88. * Did Babylon 4 survive the war? If so, where is it now?
  89. Analysis
  90. * It seems likely that Sinclair left himself the note. In
  91. [24]"Babylon Squared," Sinclair was shown to be present on Babylon
  92. 4 when it shifted through time; and from his message to Garibaldi,
  93. it seems the note told him he was destined to stay in the past and
  94. help defeat the Shadows then.
  95. * If that's correct, and the Minbari holy books contain instructions
  96. about the box, it suggests Sinclair was involved in writing the
  97. books. Very possibly he was Valen, "a Minbari not born of Minbar,"
  98. as Lennier described Valen in [25]"Passing Through Gethsemane."
  99. Sinclair, as the Grey Council discovered ([26]"Points of
  100. Departure") somehow has a Minbari soul.
  101. * Which leads to the question, what does Sinclair's time travel have
  102. to do with the Minbari soul migration, if anything? Does he have a
  103. Minbari soul because he's a giant figure from Minbari legend, or
  104. vice versa?
  105. * Presumably, if Sinclair is Valen and Draal knows about it, that's
  106. why Zathras was honored to meet Sinclair. What Zathras knows about
  107. Sheridan, though, is an open question -- perhaps he has been
  108. watching recent events unfold on Babylon 5 and simply respects
  109. Sheridan's stand against Earth and the Shadows.
  110. * Rathenn appears to defer to Sinclair. If a former member of the
  111. Grey Council looks to Sinclair for direction, Sinclair must be one
  112. of the most influential people on Minbar.
  113. * Londo's description of Sheridan's victory over the Shadows makes
  114. it sound like a fairly distant event, but the Centauri capital
  115. city was burning while Sheridan stood there. Perhaps the Shadow
  116. minions Londo mentioned have been slowly destroying the city,
  117. building by building, since the close of the war, and the Centauri
  118. have been powerless to stop them. Or, perhaps, the end of the war
  119. isn't as far back as Londo implies. (It's interesting to note that
  120. Londo doesn't appear surprised by Sheridan's appearance or by the
  121. fact that Sheridan hasn't aged.)
  122. * Sheridan looks older (his hair is lighter) and may be dressed in
  123. something other than his uniform as he visits Londo in the throne
  124. room -- it looks like he's wearing a leather jacket, but his
  125. outfit isn't shown clearly enough to tell for sure. If it's
  126. different, though, could his trip forward be along the lines of
  127. the flashforward experienced by Sinclair and Garibaldi, rather
  128. than a physical transfer? If so, where is his body?
  129. * If Babylon 4 is being sent back to help defeat the Shadows in the
  130. previous war, will other equipment be sent too? For instance,
  131. loading the docking bays full of Minbari fighters (or better
  132. still, Vorlon fighters) could do as much to turn the tide of
  133. battle as the mere presence of the station, especially assuming
  134. that Minbari and Vorlon weapons have improved in the intervening
  135. thousand years.
  136. On the other hand, perhaps the non-destruction of the Shadows in
  137. the last war wasn't a matter of military strength after all;
  138. perhaps the Shadows hid somewhere such that they were impossible
  139. to wipe out. If so, will the same thing happen again? Londo's
  140. accusation suggests it will, to some extent.
  141. * How long after Delenn arrived on Babylon 5 did she figure out
  142. where Babylon 4 came from? Were the Minbari really so uninterested
  143. in Babylon 4 that the Grey Council never saw a picture of the
  144. station? Did Delenn recognize the similarity in design as soon as
  145. she arrived, or did she find a picture of Babylon 4 in B5's
  146. archives?
  147. * Along similar lines, was the station not identified as "Babylon 4"
  148. when it appeared in the past? If it was, the Minbari should have
  149. at least heard of the Babylon Project in its earlier stages, and
  150. would have known B4's identity before Delenn arrived on B5. It's
  151. possible the Minbari lost whatever records contained the name of
  152. their second base of operations, or that Sinclair convinced the
  153. Minbari to leave such information out in the interest of not
  154. altering the future.
  155. * If the Great Machine opened a rift for Babylon 4 six years ago
  156. (while, it should be noted, the machine was under Varn's control,
  157. not Draal's) and can still open a rift today for the White Star,
  158. will it be able to open other rifts to send more people back? Or
  159. is Draal simply not as capable of handling the strain as Varn was?
  160. On the other hand, maybe the original time rift was generated from
  161. the present day by Draal, and Varn wasn't involved at all. In that
  162. case, the Machine may only be able to manipulate time once.
  163. * If B4 was being pulled back in time, why did it reappear four
  164. years later than it vanished? Sinclair, according to [27]"Babylon
  165. Squared," interrupted the station's time travel to allow the crew
  166. to get off. But if it was travelling backward through time, that
  167. should have caused it to reappear some time before it vanished.
  168. Maybe B4 will have to be pulled forward to the present day, from
  169. which point Draal can send it back -- that is, maybe Draal can
  170. only open rifts between the present day and some other time, not
  171. between two arbitrary times.
  172. * The Great Machine's time-manipulation abilities suggest that
  173. perhaps it was built specifically to pull Babylon 4 back through
  174. time. If so, who built it, and how did they know about Babylon 4?
  175. Their technology in that area exceeds the Minbari's, which says
  176. that the Machine's builders were First Ones. In that case, what
  177. was the role of Varn's people?
  178. * Delenn told Sheridan that the Minbari did not have the technology
  179. to control a time field "as unstable as this one." How much
  180. time-manipulation technology _do_ they have?
  181. * If there's a Vorlon on Minbar, could it have been responsible for
  182. Delenn's childhood vision ([28]"Confessions and Lamentations?")
  183. * In [29]"Babylon Squared," Zathras hands his time stabilizer to the
  184. space-suited figure (possibly Sinclair,) who promptly vanishes.
  185. Was that a replacement for Sheridan's stabilizer, or for another
  186. broken one?
  187. * Ivanova's wish has come true -- she's on Babylon 4 and Garibaldi
  188. is left behind. ([30]"Babylon Squared")
  189. * In Ivanova's distress call, she says, "This is Earth Alliance
  190. station Babylon 5." Presumably in the heat of the moment her Earth
  191. Force training kicked in and she didn't consider that B5 isn't an
  192. Earth Alliance station any more. (See [31]jms speaks.)
  193. Notes
  194. * As in [32]"Babylon Squared," the term "unstuck in time" is a
  195. reference to Kurt Vonnegut Jr.'s "Slaughterhouse Five."
  196. * Garibaldi's attempted passwords: "Jeff," "Jeffrey," "peekaboo"
  197. (Garibaldi's computer password, most recently used in
  198. [33]"Ceremonies of Light and Dark,") "Susan," "Michael," "socks,"
  199. "fasten," "zip" (the last three from the conversation between
  200. Sinclair and Garibaldi on their way to Babylon 4 in [34]"Babylon
  201. Squared,") and finally, "hello, old friend," Sinclair's opening
  202. line in the message delivered to Garibaldi by the Ranger in
  203. [35]"The Coming of Shadows."
  204. * Viewers outside North America may have some difficulty recognizing
  205. all the partnerships to which Sinclair compares himself and
  206. Sheridan. "Butch and Sundance" were Butch Cassidy and The Sundance
  207. Kid, two outlaws from the days of the Old West (of more recent
  208. fame for the movie in which they were portrayed by Paul Newman and
  209. Robert Redford). "Lewis and Clark" were not Lois Lane and Clark
  210. Kent, but Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, who explored much of
  211. the territory of the Louisiana Purchase (a vast expanse between
  212. the Mississippi River and the Rocky Mountains that the United
  213. States acquired from France in 1803) from 1804 to 1806, eventually
  214. reaching the Columbia River in the Pacific Northwest. "Lucy and
  215. Ethel" were Lucy Ricardo and Ethel Mertz, the characters portrayed
  216. by Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance in the 1950s sitcom "I Love
  217. Lucy."
  218. * The building in which Sinclair and Rathenn talk bears some
  219. resemblance in outline to the encounter suit of the Vorlon inside
  220. -- and even more resemblance to a Shadow.
  221. jms speaks
  222. * _November 30, 1995_ - As I write this, I've just started writing
  223. "War Without End, Part One," #316, the first part of the two
  224. episodes that bring Sinclair to Babylon 5, which we'll shoot
  225. sometime after the first of the year. It's been touch and go, but
  226. we've finally been able to schedule all of the guest cast members
  227. from "Babylon Squared" for this one, which is the flip side of
  228. that episode. It's probably going to be the most expensive show
  229. we've done yet, due to the hideous production requirements for
  230. this one. It's also the one I'm most nervous about writing, even
  231. more than "Fall of Night," because an awful lot happens here, and
  232. it has to be done just right. It's going to be probably the
  233. toughest writing job of the series to date.
  234. I'll be putting Sinclair and Sheridan together a lot, which is
  235. shaping up to be an interesting combination. We're also going to
  236. see Minbar for the first time.
  237. * "In WWE(1)I noticed a larger than usual group of offhand lines
  238. (ethel &.../wait in car.../cool-you know what I'm talking about).
  239. Was this scripted? Or was someone just ad libbing?"
  240. There's almost NO ad-libbing allowed on the show. You can't change
  241. a word unless someone comes to my office and approves it, and it
  242. can't change the meaning. (I.e., the actor is having a hard time
  243. saying "shibboleth" or something.) Everything said in this show is
  244. scripted, offhand comments included.
  245. * _Did you work out the circular sequence of events as you went, or
  246. was it all mapped out beforehand?_
  247. No, it all has to hang together, or it's kinda useless. It just
  248. required working out the details of what was, is, and will be.
  249. Then I walked on water....
  250. * _Why didn't Sinclair interact with G'Kar?_
  251. The problem is that you've got about 42 minutes to tell your
  252. story. You have to get into it, and get into it fast. Unless
  253. there's a reason for the scene to be there, if it doesn't move the
  254. plot along, it shouldn't be there. You'll note there isn't even a
  255. B-story in the two-parter...there wasn't room.
  256. Sure, it would've been nice to have Sinclair meet G'Kar, sit
  257. around, talk about how they've changed...have Sinclair and Londo
  258. meet, talk about stuff...have him and Ivanova sit around, talk
  259. about stuff...but then you've got just a bunch of scenes that are
  260. basically, "Well, hello, how've you been?"
  261. The next sounds you would've heard would be the click of remote
  262. controls changing channels across the nation.
  263. As it is, in that two-part episode, you've got Delenn, Garibaldi,
  264. Sinclair, Sheridan, Marcus, Ivanova, Lennier, Zathras, Major
  265. Krantz, Krantz's second...it's our most character-intensive
  266. episode in a long time, all of them being present in every other
  267. scene, plus the other three characters we see in part two. It was,
  268. quite simply, stuffed to the gills, and there wasn't room for a
  269. single wasted word.
  270. That's the difference between a novel and a television show; you
  271. can stop the action in a book as often as you want to have asides,
  272. but you can't do that in TV with as much facility. To do the
  273. scenes you describe would've meant turning this into a
  274. three-parter, and as it is part one is almost an extended teaser
  275. for part two. It would've been moreso with these additional
  276. scenes.
  277. If it isn't necessary, it shouldn't be there.
  278. * It would've been nice to see some of those scenes, it just wasn't
  279. practical. And you have to make hard choices. As someone once said
  280. of writing, "You have to kill all your darlings," meaning the
  281. nifty little things you'd *like* to do, as opposed to the things
  282. you *have* to do.
  283. * Actually, Mike Vejar is directing the two-parter, and I'm
  284. absolutely thrilled about it; Mike's been our mainstay for some
  285. time, and he's just terrific. (He directed "Convictions," and
  286. "Inquisitor.")
  287. * Well, reactions have been coming in on the two parter, and so far
  288. everyone's wog-boggled. Peter Jurasik called to say he didn't know
  289. what I'm smoking these days, but to please send ten pounds of it
  290. to his house at *once*. Mumy went nuts over it, everyone's very
  291. excited...including and especially Michael O'Hare, who got his
  292. copy of the script today, read it straight through, and is
  293. *extremely* excited by the story, and what happens with his
  294. character, and is VERY much looking forward to the shoot.
  295. * (Oh, and lest I forget, yes, Zathras does return in "War," as does
  296. Sinclair, who has a lot of great scenes with Marcus, Sheridan,
  297. Delenn, Zathras and others. It also has some real surprises in
  298. store, including some flash-forwards from WAY down the line.)
  299. * _January 22, 1996_
  300. Today was a very interesting day; today Michael O'Hare returned to
  301. the Babylon 5 stages in preparation for shooting the two-parter,
  302. which begins tomorrow. Today he came by for his wardrobe fitting
  303. and to get his hair trimmed, say hi to folks, and hang out...lunch
  304. was me, John Copeland, Michael and Bruce Boxleitner eating
  305. together at one of the tables in the lunch area behind the stage,
  306. lots of laughing and kidding, and the two get on great. (Turns out
  307. they'd worked on other projects before, including the short-lived
  308. A Rumor of War series by Sterling Siliphant.)
  309. Anyway, it's a great atmosphere, and everybody's psyched for the
  310. two-parter. It's like he never went away.
  311. * _January 23, 1996_
  312. [...] today is Michael O'Hare's first day of shooting here on the
  313. B5 stages for the two-parter, featuring his return to the station
  314. from Minbar, and propels him into the center of attention for most
  315. of the two parts. Everyone's having a great time so far, he and
  316. Bruce have been hanging out a lot, and the episode should be a
  317. real toad-strangler when it's finished.
  318. * A toad-strangler, a barn-burner, a doozy...it's a good thing.
  319. * _Won't Sheridan and Sinclair both be standing around giving
  320. orders? _
  321. The similarity is only if you choose to define them by their
  322. narrow roles. Their personalities are vastly different. Also,
  323. Sinclair's been through a lot in the intervening couple of years,
  324. he's grown, he and Marcus would definitely have something of a
  325. relationship since he would've been there while Marcus was being
  326. trained, and so on. And their roles in the story are very
  327. different.
  328. * My guess is that "War Without End" may well pass by [36]"CoS" as
  329. all time favorite...until the next one comes along.
  330. * _Did you reuse footage from [37]"Babylon Squared?"_
  331. We did both; we reshot some scenes from B2, and used some footage
  332. directly from that episode. Some pretty elegant matches, too, I
  333. think.
  334. * The vision of B5 blowing was the same as the one from [38]Signs.
  335. * _Why weren't the new uniforms in the flashforward in "Babylon
  336. Squared?"_
  337. We only saw the black flak uniforms in B2, because I knew we'd be
  338. changing them, but wanted to hide that fact (as I did with
  339. Delenn's line to Sinclair in B2, done off-camera to hide her
  340. change). And the Minbar cityscape was done by Eric Chauvin.
  341. * _About Ivanova cracking under pressure_
  342. With most of their systems down, everyone around her dead,
  343. Sheridan dead, knowing she's about to die and there's nothing she
  344. can do about it, and obviously knowing full well who's out
  345. there...about to witness the deaths of a quarter million sentients
  346. on the station...I felt a bit of an outburst, a final letting go
  347. of the emotions, was not inappropriate for her. (Although I do
  348. think Claudia may have played it a bit too hysterical at times;
  349. separate the lines from the performance and look at it again.)
  350. * "You hand this woman a script and say to her, 'Miss C., everyone
  351. around you is dead and you are in command.
  352. The station is falling down around you and you're in terrible
  353. pain, about to die by decompression or laser burns or crushing--or
  354. worse, you could become a Morden and be controlled by the Shadows
  355. the rest of your life.
  356. You have no hope of rescue.
  357. You may not know where you are.'
  358. And then you say she was a tiny bit on the hysterical side?"
  359. Hey...from where I sit, that's just another day at the office.
  360. Don't know many producer/writers, do you?
  361. * I don't believe anyone on Minbar was wearing shorts. It's not the
  362. season for that.
  363. * _Was the voice of the Vorlon on Minbar the same actor who did
  364. Kosh?_
  365. Yes, that was Ardwight again.
  366. * There probably wasn't a credit there because it was an incidental
  367. voice rather than a recurring voice.
  368. The other Vorlon also sounded different because I directed
  369. Ardwight in different inflections...literally stood there outside
  370. the booth using my hand like a baton to indicate the rising and
  371. falling inflections as he spoke, to give it a wave kind of sound.
  372. * _Sinclair's Minbari words are subtitled "alright," which is a
  373. misspelling -- it's really "all right."_
  374. Yep, it was misspelled, and it wasn't misspelled in the script.
  375. When I saw that on the final tape, it was too late to correct it
  376. for this airing. It'll be corrected later. (Somebody wasn't being
  377. careful when they did the captioning.)
  378. * As Sinclair notes when he arrives at B5, his status as ambassador
  379. is pretty much gone after the coup.
  380. * _Won't Earth ask where its ambassador is?_
  381. Well, Minbar isn't being very receptive to Earth at the moment,
  382. and will probably just put them on hold...indefinitely....
  383. * _How did Sinclair get so cryptic so quickly?_
  384. He was kinda Zen when he left, frankly...and two years living
  385. among Minbari, learning their language, learning to think the way
  386. they do, learning the whole history of the shadow war...that can
  387. have a pretty profound effect on you. It obviously wasn't all
  388. hanging around the Hyatt Minbar and watching reruns of I Love
  389. Lennier for two years....
  390. * _Sinclair wasn't on Mars during the riots in the first season, so
  391. how does Sheridan know him from them?_
  392. It's been established that there have been previous riots on Mars,
  393. including the food riots referenced in, I believe, the pilot.
  394. * _Will the relationship between Delenn and Sheridan cause problems
  395. with Sinclair?_
  396. Well, remember that we never defined what those feelings were
  397. between Sinclair and Delenn; she had a great deal of respect and
  398. admiration for him, yes. And she had a fair measure of faith in
  399. him as well. Question is, what's the root of that? We'll learn
  400. some of that in the two-parter. As for Sinclair, he was mainly
  401. involved with Sakai.
  402. * Sakai certainly wouldn't have wanted to get tied down to life on
  403. Minbar, and Sinclair knew that his life would be difficult now
  404. with the rangers, so they parted ways.
  405. * Marcus's look came because he overheard the Minbari-language part
  406. of the discussion, and knew something was up. It made him more
  407. watchful of Sinclair, which pays off in WWE2.
  408. * I like Zathras...he's just nuts.
  409. * _Will we learn who Zathras' people are?_
  410. Eventually, though that answer isn't terribly important.
  411. * _Why didn't the Shadows destroy B5 before it went online?_
  412. B5 wasn't destroyed because it wasn't the one that would be taken
  413. back. Yes, the prior stations would've looked more like B4 but
  414. they were sabotaged *very* early in the construction process.
  415. You'll learn why he didn't want Garibaldi along next ep.
  416. * The B1-B3 sabotages had nothing at all to do with the B4
  417. situation; it was just done by forces opposed to the very notion
  418. of the Babylon Project.
  419. * The first 3 Babylon stations never got much past the very earliest
  420. stages of construction, just some hull elements, that sort of
  421. thing, nothing that could be recognized. Other forces took them
  422. out, mainly for political reasons.
  423. * B4 survived the prior shadow war, but in very bad shape; didn't
  424. last much longer after that.
  425. * _Is the war room staffed continuously?_
  426. Yes, the war room would have to have support personnel there when
  427. the big guys are off having fun or sleeping.
  428. * _Why did Sheridan's clothes change?_
  429. His clothing is different because that's the future Sheridan, into
  430. whom the current Sheridan has sort of slid....
  431. * _Was whatever destroyed Sheridan's stabilizer related to the
  432. creature in "Knives?"_
  433. No, that was just the result of the blast.
  434. * The energy being that got Sheridan in "Knives" had no relation to
  435. anything in the ongoing story; it just existed outside our normal
  436. universe, and got in and out via the rift (which also served to
  437. remind us that it was still there).
  438. * Sheridan "leapt" into his future self, hence the difference in
  439. wardrobe and appearance. Londo wasn't suprised to see him. If you
  440. recall the Centauri guard when we first arrive in the Palace, he
  441. says, "I think he's awake again, would you like to see?" The
  442. implication being that he's been beaten into unconsciousness,
  443. hence Londo's line, "Welcome back from the abyss." It was at that
  444. moment of unconsciousness that he "slid" into his future self.
  445. * The time-flash (which in Sheridan's case is much more pronounced
  446. than what we've seen before) slides you forward or backward in
  447. time to where you are at that moment. At that moment, 18 years
  448. from now (in the story), Sheridan was/will be on Centauri Prime.
  449. So when he slid along the time line, that's where he ended up.
  450. Just as in Babylon Squared, when Garibaldi had a timeflash back to
  451. his time on Mars. It blips your perception to another point in
  452. your life, wherever you happen to be.
  453. * Sheridan slid forward in time, to wherever he was at that moment
  454. in the future. He didn't just go hopping around aimlessly; if he
  455. flipped 10 days ahead, he'd come into his body at that point 10
  456. days from now, wherever he happened to be. At that moment, 17
  457. years down the road, he happened to be on Centauri Prime.
  458. * I'd rather let part 2 get into what exactly happened to Centauri
  459. Prime....
  460. * _Has Sheridan slid past his death on Z'ha'dum?_
  461. Well, who can say at this point *what* happens on Z'ha'dum...?
  462. * _Would the future Sheridan notice being slid into?_
  463. The future Sheridan would have a little memory of what happened
  464. during that time, but it'd be almost dreamlike, two steps removed.
  465. * _How did the Shadows know about Babylon 4?_
  466. Well, if the Minbari had records of B4's visual look, given that
  467. the Shadows are advanced, would they not also have the potential
  468. to recognize it for what it was once it was nearing completion
  469. from their own records?
  470. * _Did the Minbari agree to help fund B5 because they knew about B4?_
  471. No, because if you remember, even Delenn didn't know where B4 came
  472. from until she came to B5, well after completion.
  473. * _Why don't the Minbari have many records of the last war?_
  474. It was also a very devastating war, and one of their mistakes was
  475. that there were those who were entrusted to keep the past, sort of
  476. a more advanced version of storytellers, who put all their data in
  477. one basket, as it were...very possessive and jurisdictional. When
  478. they and that center of data were taken out, a lot was lost. One
  479. drawback of a very rigid and structued society.
  480. * _But if that happened early in the war, wouldn't they have records
  481. from after that point?_
  482. Certainly it would've occured in the last days of the war.
  483. * _Do the Minbari have time travel?_
  484. They've played with some research in this area, but they aren't
  485. anywhere near the tech required to actually do anything with time.
  486. * _Why hasn't Minbari ship design changed?_
  487. The design *has* changed; the main section is much longer, and
  488. more primitive looking, less tricked out. You can see a bit of it
  489. there, but you will see them in more detail in part two.
  490. Sinclair was scarred during ranger training duties.
  491. * _Would arguing with Kosh in [39]"Interludes and Examinations" have
  492. been the original source of the scar?_
  493. No, because you'll note that Sheridan isn't scarred by it. No, you
  494. have to remember that one doesn't just transplant one storyline
  495. onto another. It doesn't work that way. Sinclair has his arc,
  496. Sheridan has his own.
  497. * Sheridan wasn't a "backup" for Sinclair, he was brought in
  498. specifically because I needed somene who could and would do things
  499. in a different way, and had a different arc. If it was going to
  500. track 1-to-1 you wouldn't *need* a new character.
  501. And the swipe Kosh took at Sheridan wouldn't be *nearly* enough to
  502. cause a huge scar like that.
  503. * "1) Assuming the present is the time period during which we watch
  504. Babylon 5 and the period we saw at the beginning of the WWE
  505. episode, does the possible fall of B5 (if the mission fails) take
  506. place in the past or the future? We see Ivanova screaming in the
  507. mysterious transmission that "they're killing us" and that the
  508. Captain is dead, so I assume this indicates that the possible fall
  509. of B5 takes place in the future since Sheridan is the only Captain
  510. (Sinclair was a Commander, non?). But we also see Sinclair
  511. reliving his flashback with Gerabaldi from Season one in which B5
  512. falls, and he then seems to indicate that his mission is to
  513. prevent such a catastrophe. Since Sinclair is there, with
  514. Gerabaldi, this would seem to suggest that the fall of B5, if the
  515. mission fails, takes place in the past in relation to the present
  516. with which we are all familiar.(Breath) So, if the mission fails,
  517. when will B5 fall; past of future??? Or perhaps put another way:
  518. Will B5 possibly fall under Sheridan's command or Sinclair's? <--
  519. God, that's complicated."
  520. Nope. The scenes are all in the future. Garibaldi specifically
  521. identifies the distress call as coming from 8 days in the future.
  522. Sinclair's vision wasn't a flashback, but a flash forward; even
  523. the blowing of B5 was identified by Lady Ladira as in the future.
  524. It's *always* been placed in the future, though most of this was
  525. in the first season, which hasn't been reshown. Also, in the first
  526. act, Garibaldi again *specifically states* that when they went to
  527. B4, there was a glimpse of the future and the fall of B5.
  528. "2) Faced with the end, why would the bloodied Ivanova feel
  529. compelled to deliver a play-by-play to a non-existant audience? Or
  530. even to one that is there? I found that strange."
  531. First she was trying to get help. Second, there should be some
  532. record of what happened for those who would investigate. They
  533. would need to know, just the way a signal operator sends out a
  534. distress call for as long as possible as the ship sinks. SOP.
  535. "4) About Delenn's slide show: It looks as though Minbari ships
  536. have remained basically the same for the past 1000 years. I could
  537. not see one change. Why is that?"
  538. Because you weren't looking closely enough. The older Minbari
  539. ships are much longer and tubular in design; you'll see them
  540. better in the second half, but there's definitely a difference.
  541. "5) The preview showed Gerabaldi giving 'em hell with a big gun.
  542. Why wasn't that in the episode (I know, some scenes in previews
  543. don't show up in the actual ep, but it seemed important)?"
  544. Because we were seeing the sequence from Sinclair's point of view;
  545. he was gone by the time Garibaldi began firing, so he wouldn't
  546. have seen it. Story logic.
  547. "7) Londo spoils us all by telling us Sheridan wins the
  548. war--suspense exit stage left--unless the time line is somehow
  549. further altered, which would go against the inevatability theme
  550. JMS seems to be playing."
  551. Okay, everybody who thought I was going to have our heroes fight a
  552. war for two whole years or so, and then *lose it*...a major
  553. dramatic disappointment to say the least...raise your hands.
  554. In any event...quite frankly, several of your "serious nitpicks"
  555. are actually incorrect, and come from making assumptions or simply
  556. not paying attention when someone says something clearly in
  557. dialogue, as Garibaldi does, that the flash was of future events,
  558. and then IDs the signal as from 8 days ahead.
  559. * _If Sinclair had stayed with the station, who would have been
  560. transported to Centauri Prime?_
  561. I appreciate the questions, but there are so many alternate
  562. timelines flying around right now...I'm not sure I want to further
  563. complicate the issue.
  564. * I could answer this, but if I expand the time paradox loop any
  565. further, I would end up not answering it because I'd already
  566. answered it, which means it wouldn't get answered, requiring me to
  567. answer it now, and pretty soon the universe implodes, and I don't
  568. want that on my conscience.
  569. * There are no alternate univeses, only alternate or possible
  570. futures. If they didn't go back, the future in which Sinclair is
  571. there with Garibaldi -- having come back to see through the final
  572. battle -- and in which Sheridan is killed, and Ivanova is calling
  573. for help...that future will come true.
  574. * _Why was Garibaldi left behind?_
  575. It's a story point, and it'll be explained clearly in part two.
  576. What, you think I'd have something this odd going on and not
  577. explain it?
  578. It's coming. Be patient.
  579. * _The flash to the firefight was Sinclair's, not Garibaldi's._
  580. Actually...incorrect. Whenever there's a timeflash, people see one
  581. thing or another. When Sinclair and Garibaldi first came aboard,
  582. there was a timeflash. We saw what Sinclair saw, we have no idea
  583. from that scene what Garibaldi saw. No reason he couldn't have
  584. seen something from about that same period. It wasn't stated
  585. either way at the time.
  586. * _But Krantz said it was different for everyone._
  587. Hey, who're you gonna believe, Krantz or me?
  588. Besides, it could've been a sequence from the fall of B5, but not
  589. that exact MOMENT, so it WOULD be different, so NYAH.
  590. (suddenly I'm five years old)
  591. * _How did Zack know about the White Star?_
  592. The White Star has been common knowledge ever since it came in at
  593. the end of "Severed Dreams." Certainly, by virtue of being
  594. Garibaldi's second in command, he'd know about it. At this point,
  595. most everything is out in the open now.
  596. * I'm sure Garibaldi will eventually end up on the White Star; and
  597. the Minbari will also probably begin slowly acquiring English, and
  598. vice versa.
  599. * _Why was Delenn so nervous after Sheridan vanished?_
  600. She didn't know what was coming, and that worried her. She is most
  601. secure when she has a definite plan of action, and variables
  602. aren't something the Minbari are good at in any event, they're
  603. very rigid and structured.
  604. And we'll be seeing the Sigma walkers again in the not too distant
  605. future. And some of their pals.
  606. * _Was Sinclair speaking Minbari during his entire conversation with
  607. Delenn, with English presented for the viewers' benefit?_
  608. No, he slid into Minbari at that point to try and conceal what was
  609. being said from the others on the bridge.
  610. * _Why did Ivanova claim B5 was an Earth Alliance station?_
  611. The name of the station is still the same; it was built by the
  612. Earth Alliance. So that's how she'd refer to it.
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