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Babylon 5 posts by JMS for July 1-16, 1994
This file includes a compilation of posts on GEnie by J. Michael
Straczynski in the Babylon 5 category. The posts are copyright by JMS
(and compilation copyright is by GEnie).
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Topic 1 Mon Oct 26, 1992
SF-MARSHALL [Dave ] at 18:50 EST
Sub: Babylon 5 - The Series (Non-Spoiler)
Welcome to the Babylon 5 category and main topic for the new series. Here is
the place for all general information on the series. Topic 2 is the location
for SPOILERS. And please, NO STORY IDEAS are to be posted either.
775 message(s) total.
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Message 617 Wed Jul 06, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:22 EDT
Whether or not Babylon 5 survives past a second season...kinda depends on
the *ratings* in the second season, and we're not *in* the second season yet.
Many shows tend to take a while to find their audience; the first season or
two of "Picket Fences" was pretty much in the toilet, ratings-wise. But it
grew.
As for the recent batch of ratings...yeah, we've been clobbered by 1) the
NBA playoffs and finals, 2) OJ a little, and 3) the fact that this last month
has been all reruns. EVERY syndicated drama show has gotten clobbered this
past week in particular, and this month in general due to the basketball
games. We always do much better when (big surprise), we show new episodes. I
imagine that our ratings will go back up again when we start showing new ones
this week, and now that the NBA games are over, and stations stop bumping,
delaying, or getting rolled over by other stations.
Re: Michael York...there were some unofficial conversations with York,
but nothing has ever come of them. This is ONLY a rumor, and does not have
any likelihood at this time of being anything more than a rumor.
jms
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Message 618 Wed Jul 06, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:58 EDT
BTW...can anyone here tell me *who* said this about York? All I can
determine is that *someone* announced this, and I would like to know who,
specifically, to decapitate.
jms
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Message 628 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:57 EDT
To the best of my knowledge, reruns will still continue after we've
finished with new episodes for this season, and will be interspersed in second
season, so there will be plenty of chances to catch up.
BTW, for those who saw the promo for "Eyes" at the end of "Grail," I have
*no* idea what it has to do with the episode. Sometimes they "enhance" the
story to make it promote-able...but I think this time they "enhanced" it right
into a parallel dimension....
jms
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Message 637 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:27 EDT
Creation has licensed some stuff...a few shirts, and a mug, maybe some
photos, I think that's about it.
And we hope to get Harlan's "Demon" crossover script this season.
jms
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Message 653 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:14 EDT
Booj'...thanks.
Re: audio...for the *most* part, there won't be a difference in the
reruns, though there will be a marked difference in the video release of
episodes, when that happens.
What happened was this: we went into this using the full dynamic range of
available audio. Right to the edge of the red line. Just one problem...many
of the stations, and the uplink facility, use audio limiters, which crunches
down the audio if it goes too far. It took us a while to find out that this
was the source of the problem, and we mixed the last few episodes coming in
just a few decibels under the point where the automatic clamping kicked in.
We'll keep to this in future. Video releases won't have this problem.
What can I say...I'm a rock'n'roll kinda guy...I like stuff *loud*.
CGI is generally much faster than models. I have in my hands the major
CGI sequences from our first episode of year two, and we haven't even started
*shooting* yet.
jms
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Message 654 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:32 EDT
PS...for those in the LA area, and who enjoyed the excerpts of Norman
Corwin's work...two of his radio dramas will be performed at the Hollywood
Roosevelt Hotel, in their theater, on July 13th at 1 or 1:30. Norman will be
directing the performance (I think lunch is included). Expect some
celebrities in the cast. The two radio dramas are "The Strange Affliction"
and "My Client Curly."
jms
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Message 664 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:12 EDT
The teasers and promos are put together by the Warner Bros. marketing and
promotions department.
jms
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Message 678 Sun Jul 10, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:07 EDT
At one time we were working out what the time-reference would be on B5.
One of the early things we talked about were cycles, but in fairly short order
I decided against it because it didn't seem to mean much. But this was,
sadly, after "Grail" had been produced, and we couldn't dub over the cycle
references with anything else, so it stayed. It won't be appearing anywhere
else henceforth. One of our few continuity glitches.
jms
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Message 682 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:54 EDT
Okay, Ms. Smartypants, then what does "cycles" MEAN? If it means cycles
of the station, it cycles once every minute to maintain 1g. So 300 cycles is
only 300 minutes.
Your serve.
BTW...it comes to my attention that Mark Altman was going on today at a
Creation Convention in Glendale CA about how O'Hare was replaced because of
negative comments made about him here on GEnie.
Okay...now...you're a cute bunch, especially in the aggregate, and I like
you a lot, but frankly all of us here don't even amount to s (a)
squiggle...even *one percent* of a squiggle...on the Neilsen charts.
Though I respect Mark Altman, that was a boneheaded mistake on his part.
Simply ain't true. And if he's *going* to say stuff like that, you'd think
that maybe he'd call me first to verify this stuff before launching it out
there.
jms
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Message 697 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:55 EDT
Apparently a few places are timeshifting B5 and KF into each other's
timeslots in order to see if the numbers vary; there's some thought that B5 is
more of a 9:00 show than an 8:00 show.
jms
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Message 701 Tue Jul 12, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:39 EDT
CAll the Writers Guild, and find out how much a copy of their Journal
costs. It lists the "contact person" for each show. If that show isn't
listed, pick the story editor. A letter is your way in, but do NOT include a
synopsis. State that the script is finished, that you would like to submit it
(if not through an agent, then using a release form of their choice) for their
perusal. After that, it's up to them.
jms
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Message 704 Tue Jul 12, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:00 EDT
No, the information/rumor was that York *had* been selected, and it came
much earlier than Westercon, at a convention in the northeast.
jms
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Message 735 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:01 EDT
Bruce; thanks.
A brief aside...every so often, somebody asks me what the difference is
between B5 and ST (aside from, like, everything). Here's one element that I
think is noteworthy, and of which I'm fairly proud.
We don't do gang credits here. Where a writer writes an episode, you see
ONLY that writer's name. If DC Fontana writes a script, she gets the credit
for it. You don't see three names on the story, two or three names on the
script.
One of the injustices in Hollywood is the credit system. When you're on
staff, you get a salary plus fees for the scripts you write. When you are a
freelancer, you get only the script fees, and the residuals produced by reruns
of that script. The more staffers add their names to the script, they cut
deeper into the residuals, until the freelancer gets very little, if anything,
really.
My feeling is, look, we're already getting a salary, why dig into the
freelancer's pocket as well? Consequently, we don't arbitrate credit on B5
scripts, regardless of any rewriting that gets done. We simply don't do it.
This is something I feel strongly about. In all the series I've story edited,
I think I've only requested (and been granted by WGA arbitration) shared
credit on maybe 4-5 scripts (out of 200+ that I've edited), and there only
because they were *very* extreme or unusual situations.
We try and respect all members of our team, including and especially our
writers. They get sole credit on scripts. They generally get the chance to
do their own revisions (time permitting). They are not only welcome on the
set, they are invited and encouraged to come. If the director has a question
on set, and I'm not availble, they go to the original writer. (At the other
show, freelancers are generally not allowed on set, and even staff writers are
discouraged from going there.)
It's a small area, really, and it doesn't win us even one additional
point in the ratings, but it's something that pleases me, so I thought I'd
mention it.
jms
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Message 745 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:21 EDT
One other reason the producer credits are out of the way fast is that we
don't have a big staff of writer/producers, like many other shows. There's
me, my story editor Larry...and that's all. Many shows have anywhere from 4-7
staffers. I like lean staffs.
Re: merchandising...the concensus at Shore Leave is, of course,
breathtakingly inaccurate. WB doesn't have to "invest" anything for any
merchandising to be done; that's done by those who license the show. As of
this writing, there are basically about a dozen B5 licensees, and I am
informed that there are about another dozen or so currently in the process of
negotiation. I mean, jeez...we've got a comic from DC, novels from Dell,
comics from Cardz, shirts, mugs, keychains from Creation and others, a CD-ROM
from Compton's...what the hell more do they want? No, B5 is not a ***MAJOR
FRANCHISE*** like ST with ten zillion licensees, and I don't *want* it to be
that, and hope it never *becomes* that. As it is, there is more licensing
committed to this show than to *any* of the other live-action Warners series,
with the possible exception of Lois and Clark.
And, as stated, I resisted licensing during year one to keep our focus on
the story (as did the creator of Calvin and Hobbes for the first year or two).
It amazes me how a group of people can look at the licensing of one show on
less than a year, compare it to the licensing of a show on for 25 years in one
form or anther, and decide because it's less that somehow Warners doesn't want
to "invest" in the show, turning this into a negative. Well, I guess if
people gotta find something to pick at, they may as well make up stuff as
anything else. (Like the bunch of folks in Tennessee who just sent a petition
to the B5 offices protesting the firing of me, Harlan, and all the other
writers on the show, and the total recasting of the series.)
jms
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Message 752 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:59 EDT
The first batch of mugs are from (you'll pardon the expression) Creation.
Currently about 2/3rds finished writing a second-season ep called
"Revelations," and though I've written and commissioned others already, this
one's sizing up to be a major ass-kicker from a story perspective.
Definitely the flip-side of "Chrysalis." Some really, really nice stuff.
The hardest part is always writing Kosh, because you have to be very
careful how much you use him, and what he says. Too much and he loses his
sense of mystery, and you don't want him spouting fortune-cookie type
aphorisms. He has a very deliberate way of speaking in which everything,
every smallest nuance and inflection means something, but sometimes not what
it appears to mean, or comes at it from a very different angle than normal
conversation. So I go as minimalist as possible, to get the meaning down to
the smallest number of words possible. And in one scene, one of only two he
appears in, I got him down to *one word*, and that one word -- and it's a
totally inoffensive, neutral word on its own terms -- should scare the hell
out of *everybody*.
Ah loves this show....
jms
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Message 755 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:22 EDT
Telepaths are the ultimate minority, and when it comes to the use of
their talents, and the protection of the rights of the hysterical majority,
their rights don't mean a whole hell of a lot.
jms
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Message 773 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:18 EDT
Yes, Mary Jo is Christian Slater's mom. She keeps nudging us about an
appearance, since he loves SF. We'll see.
And also correct...the majority of freelance scripts we commission don't
tend to need a lot of revision. Certainly not after the first go round. DC's
first script needed a bit of work, but that was mainly because she was still
feeling her way around the characters and the show. Her second script came in
almost letter perfect; move around a few commas and that's about it. And her
outline for her next script, for season two, is very cool.
Funny story. Saw Ed Wasser ("Morden") the other day, and asked him if
he'd had any reaction to his first appearance on the show. Just one, he said.
He was in a florist shop, picking out some stuff for a friend who was sick.
The proprieter came over, asked, "What do you want?" Ed sorta mumbled about
wanting some flowers. "What do you want?" the owner asked again. Ed -- still
not getting it -- said he was looking for some nice stuff for a friend who was
sick. "Yes, but what do you *want*?" the owner asked. At which point Ed
finally twigged to what was going on. He said afterward that it really *is*
an unnerving approach, which was kinda the point.
Of course, the owner then added that he thought the scene was from DS9,
but what the hell, it's an imperfect universe.
jms
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Topic 2 Wed Nov 20, 1991
STARR [Arne] at 19:41 EST
Sub: Babylon 5 -- The Series!! >>SPOILERS<<
Babylon 5 offically became a series on May 28 '93. There will be 22 hour eps
for season one (in addition to the pilot). Airs Wednesdays at 8PM in most
places starting Jan. 26 '94. This is the SPOILER topic where anything goes.
651 message(s) total.
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Message 542 Mon Jul 04, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:31 EDT
Longshot: there are some questions that are best left to be answered in
the fullness of time. That is one of them.
jms
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Message 553 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:59 EDT
In an earlier version of the story, it was indeed Kosh who appeared out
of nowhere and scragged the Feeder, saying, "Some things we do not allow," but
it seemed kinda un-Kosh-like on one level, and it repeated the Deathwalker
finish, so it was dropped.
jms
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Message 556 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:42 EDT
The problem with Larry is if you poke him, he tells stuff. Poking
doesn't bother me.
Since he's already spewed a bit...some small details.
The person coming in to be the new CO on B5 will have a rank higher than
commander. Thus it makes sense, given this and other factors yet to be
revealed, to promote Ivanova to full Commander rank, and expand her duties to
get her out of C&C a bit.
We're going to be adding a couple of characters...more of the ISN
link...and some here (and on other nets) have been correct when they say that
the Starfury squadrons should have some kind of squad commanders of their own,
in addition to when Ivanova or others take over. We'll be developing a
character to fill that slot.
On the question of Na'Toth...some background.
As y'all may remember, originally we had Mary Woronov slated to be
Ko'Dath, G'Kar's assistant. She had *very* real problems with the idea of
wearing prosthetics, and also wouldn't wear the red contacts. So we went our
separate ways, and Ko'Dath had an unfortunate accident with an airlock.
This happened, however, right between shooting two episodes in which we
*needed* G'Kar's aide present. So our casting director called in Caitlin
Brown on about 24 hours notice, and in fact in her first episode, it's mainly
Ko'Dath's makeup, somewhat modified, rather than the sleeker Na'Toth makeup
you saw later. Slight differences.
If you've seen Caitlin Brown on the "Making Of B5" program, you know she
is a *gorgeous* young woman, who has mainly played romantic leads in films and
TV. She has continued to get offers in that direction, and over the hiatus,
did a film again as a romantic lead with Marlon Brando and (also in the cast)
Faye Dunaway.
And the very real question is, Does she want to hide her face, be known
for playing an alien, and lose the chance to further expand her feature
film/romantic lead career? Her answer, after much agonizing, was no. She'd
never really intended to stay with it forever, was only coming in on an
emergency basis (but we liked her performance so much we kept her in the
role), and she was the *only* actor on whom we didn't have long-term options.
We very much wanted her to come back, and did everything we could to
convince her, but this is what she wants to do. And while this is NOT mutual,
it is amicable; I fully understand why she wants to continue on the process of
becoming a major player. And as she says, she has a very attractive face; why
hide it forever?
This being the case, what we're now doing is recasting the role of
Na'Toth with a different actress. It won't be a different character, since
it's got nothing to do with the story, it's an actor thing. We'll get someone
the same size, shape, voice and personality, write the character exactly the
same, same name, and move on. Which happens all the time.
And, obviously, the prosthetic will be the same, so Na'Toth will still look
the same.
So, this is entirely her decision, and we wish her luck. It doesn't
affect the show or the story, so it doesn't cause us any problems, so why
treat it in anything other than an amicable fashion?
Insofar as I know, that's all Larry blabbed about. Go ahead, tell me
there's more...tell me Larry blabbed about Sinclair's sex change...go ahead,
watch a grown man have a cardiac infarction....
jms
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Message 579 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:17 EDT
Re: prosthetics...there are two parts, the inner area, which is taken
from a mold of the actor's face, and the outer part, which is sculpted. If
you change actors, you do a different mold from the face of the actor to
create the inner half, but you can keep the outer part the same (based on the
sculpture). Usually you sculpt it to stay close to and accent the actor's
features.
jms
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Message 589 Sun Jul 10, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:09 EDT
Replacing the character of Na'Toth could be done, but at this point she
knows stuff that is important for us to have access to in year two. (Stuff
mainly happening in "Chrysalis.")
jms
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Message 605 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:56 EDT
Lemme dive in here...Bugs sent me his theory, and I noted somewehre or
other around here that it was well thought out, was on the right track in many
cases, but just got off at the wrong station.
jms
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Message 621 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:48 EDT
PPG = Phased Plasma Gun. "Domo Arigato" is Japanese. Grey reached into
Ben Zayn's head and, for lack of a better term, pushed his "pain button," the
same way you can stimulate someone's memory or physical sensations with an
electrode or chemicals. It was only a second, and he would've shrugged it off
quickly, had Sinclair not been there to follow up.
jms
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Message 635 Thu Jul 14, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 15:42 EDT
I do not have to speculate. I know.
And the further I stay away from topic 29 the better.
jms
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Topic 3 Tue Nov 03, 1992
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:09 EST
Sub: Babylon 5 - Computer SFX Tech-Talk
Some of the new computer EFX used in BABYLON 5 will be revolutionary, a new
approach never seen before on this scale. It's all new tech, and this topic
will try and address the new technologies involved.
621 message(s) total.
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Message 609 Thu Jul 14, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:55 EDT
Brett: we've already done it. The CO's office next season will have a
view of the Garden area, as will some other rooms.
jms
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Message 613 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:03 EDT
Coke. No pepsi. Cheeseburger.
jms
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Message 620 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:21 EDT
Yes, that building is in the Garden. You can see buildings there in many
shots, some better than others. It's a big place. The Fresh Air restaurant
is also in the Garden area, and you can see buildings there in "Purple," also
upcoming in "Quality."
jms
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Topic 5 Tue Nov 03, 1992
T.ORTH [Mr. Rico] (Forwarded)
Sub: Grid Epsilon Irregulars - News & Info.
This topic is for information about Babylon 5 fan groups, newsletters,
fanzines, get-togethers, B-5 at conventions, and other general fun.
782 message(s) total.
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Message 693 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:18 EDT
Correct; we're enhancing many of the sets, making some pleasant changes,
and building some new ones, and wanted to allow time to do all of this. The
goal is always to make each season better than the one before.
jms
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Message 695 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:02 EDT
We're re-doing a *lot* of the signage.
jms
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Message 706 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:59 EDT
There are plans for some kind of B5 fan group, run out of Babylonian
Productions, to coordinate stuff and do a very small amount of limited selling
(just enough to keep us from getting deep into debt on the thing, since it'll
cost us about $75,000 per year to run it). This will also be a central
clearing house for convention organizers. More on this as we nail it down.
jms
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Topic 9 Wed Nov 11, 1992
T.RESTIVO [Little Guy] at 18:27 EST
Sub: Babylon 5 Humor
From *Beep Beep*, to Top Ten Lists, to full-blown parodies, this is where to
put your funny bone in writing!
680 message(s) total.
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Message 636 Mon Jul 04, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:14 EDT
Actually, Delenn's line is, "It is quite...impressive."
jms
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Topic 11 Sat Nov 14, 1992
J.SHEEN1 [Leviathan] at 18:09 EST
Sub: B5 Adrift!
BABYLON 5 Topic Drift
If you feel like talking about it, but it doesn't fit anywhere else... If its
only connection to B-5 is that you thought of it in this CAT...
This is where to come and get it out.
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Message 543 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:03 EDT
"The last thing I remember about the dream is finding a secret cave
entrance just at the base of the big vasquez spire and stepping inside."
Okay...everybody here who *hasn't* heard of Freud please leave the room
for the next ten minutes....
jms
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Message 548 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:48 EDT
Errr....the freudian interpretation of the dream has *nothing* to do with
being heterosexual *or* homosexual. It's the classic dream o entering a womb
or vagina, or more simply a sexual image that has no particular gender or
gender preference associated with it at *all*.
To say there are Freudian implications has *nothing* to do with being
gay, straight, or anything else. It did not contain *any* insult. You are
reacting to something that wasn't stated, wasn't implied, and doesn't exist.
It's the old "train entering a tunnel" dream, basically.
Any other interpretation has more to do with what you may be bringing to
the table from your own past, than anything that was said. Look at the
message again. It simply ain't there. Somehow you have come to associate
Freud with gayness, and Freudian analysis with saying that someone's
gay...which simply and plainly is not true.
jms (b.a. clinical psychology)
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Message 557 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:29 EDT
I don't generally have lucid dreams, but there is something very weird
about 95% of all my dreams.
(And please, don't noboby cite Lovecraft to me, honest to Irving, this is
how they are.)
Nearly all of my dreams take place in the same place...a sort of dream
city that has gradually grown over the years somewhere in my head. It's just
what that implies: a city. I know the geography of the place pretty well,
though there are occasionally little places I stumble upon that I hadn't
noticed before.
I know where the theaters are, where the stores are, and where the main
shopping center is. There's a bus route that takes you up out of the main
part of the city to a little junior college on the fringe of the suburbs. You
take the #2 bus, which goes north about five miles, then hooks left. You get
off at the main road, and walk south about three blocks and you're there. On
the return trip, you get off about half a block from a magazine/bookshop. I
know the guy who runs it by face, but haven't yet asked his name. I probably
will eventually. In the front of the store are the general magazines and
paperbacks; in wood bins a little further in are comics and older magazines.
The window faces south, and covers most of the storefront.
I'm also a writer here in this "city" as well. I have a two story house.
The second level merges with the hillside a bit, so you can walk out onto
grass, and a stone flagstone walk. My office is on the second floor. For the
last year there's been some renovations in progress, and a bunch of the floor
on the second floor has been torn up.
It's the same locale in nearly every single dream. It's *that* specific.
There's no real plot, no major danger. I work there, go to see a movie
sometimes, do some shopping, threads even cross dreams and recur later on.
(There was a big flap recently because the city was going to tear down the old
theater at the corner near the magazine shop, but we managed to postpone the
development.)
It is a coherent, consistent city in which 95% of my dreams take place.
I see the same people, places, things. Some people get very creeped out when
I tell them this. To me, it's just the other place I go when I'm asleep.
jms
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Topic 12 Wed Nov 18, 1992
B.WIST [Brad] at 18:12 EST
Sub: Babylon 5 Sightings
Post here when you've spotted Babylon 5, whether it be on Television,
Magazine, or somewhere else. Let us know where we can find it/see it, too.
628 message(s) total.
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Message 602 Wed Jul 06, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 19:53 EDT
You can also look for an interview in an issue of the Michigan Chronicle
in a few weeks.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 12
Message 611 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:55 EDT
Ah...didn't see this, and responded in #1. It's balloon juice.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 12
Message 617 Tue Jul 12, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:05 EDT
Brief jms sighting in this coming week's TV Guide (July 16 issue), page
16, just two pages away from Cindy Crawford's body....
jms
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Topic 14 Thu Dec 31, 1992
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:59 EST
Sub: Lurkers/Introductions: Please Sign In
A place for newcomers to come in, say hello, whether you want to jump into the
conversation or not, just to let us know you're here.
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Category 18, Topic 14
Message 706 Tue Jul 05, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 05:25 EDT
This in spite of the petition, I take it...?
jms
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Topic 17 Tue Jan 19, 1993
C.STOBBE [Colin] at 21:02 EST
Sub: Babylon 5 - Merchandising
A place to discuss all the neat Babylon 5 merchandising coming out (hopefully)
soon
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 604 Mon Jul 04, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:18 EDT
Just as the episodes are designed to be watched in full, in part, only a
few, in or out of order (for the most part), similarly the web (comic, books,
show) will be consistent but not overlapping in any way that requires *anyone*
to read or watch all of them to follow anything. I would consider this
*vastly* unfair. They should be *consistent* with one another, that's all.
If a piece of information comes out in the comic, and later that becomes
useful, it must and will be referenced in dialogue so that it's *totally*
clear to anyone watching.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 607 Mon Jul 04, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:39 EDT
That's the other thing I forgot: yes, there will be cards, from Cardz.
(Or so I'm told; the deal was made, but I haven't heard much from them
lately.)
Cyberdad: if it weren't for the fact that I kinda want some of this stuff
myself, I'd probably work against *any* merchandising as much as I could.
Merchandising can begin to drive a show, and suddenly you find yourself
introducing items just so you can merchandise them, changing the costumes
every couple of seasons to keep that licensor going...as a fan myself, I hate
that, and won't do it now that I'm in this position.
I'm not a salesman, I'm a writer. If we can do something that adds to
the story, or that would look real neat on my wall, terrific. But the day
that we do Babylon 5 Underoos, as I said at ChicagoCon, somebody just shoot
me. (And you'd be amazed at how *quickly* someone volunteered....)
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 616 Tue Jul 05, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 05:27 EDT
The B5 theme on the CD that Chris gave me seems to run a bit longer than
what we air; and the "Requiem" sequence doesn't include the follow up stuff on
the cruiser (at least mine doesn't), but does seem to have a longer build-up.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 624 Wed Jul 06, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:27 EDT
Look for the comic in late November, the novels about the same or a bit
later. And I believe it was either Ron or (most likely) John Copeland who
suggested the nose-art for Starfuries. (John's a major aviation nut.)
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 635 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:05 EDT
I think the "Requiem" piece is a bit shorter on my CD, only in that it
doesn't include the follow-up on the Minbari cruiser. As for the CD-ROM,
insofar as I know it's still slated for late Fall. I'm having a meeting with
the boys from Compton New Media either later this week or first part of next
week, and hope to have more info at that time.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 640 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:32 EDT
It's going to be both.
One primary area will deal with the fictional world of B5. It will have
backgrounds on all of our characters, plus details about all of the major
alliances (Narns, Minbari, others). You'll see their homeworlds, learn their
culture, see some of their language, that sort of thing. There will be a
fairly extensive chronology of events between the present and the time of the
series, detailing when we first encountered the Centauri, the Dilgar invasion,
and other stuff.
It should be a fairly extensive encyclopedia of the B5 universe.
The other component will deal with the production. I very much want to
de-mystify how TV is made. So there will be extensive sections on that area,
including one section where you can follow a sequence from script to wardrobe,
storyboard, sets, to shooting, to the point of having several dailies from
that finished sequence which you can then edit into any order you want,
emphasizing people of your choice, close-ups or masters, with the final
addition of a piece of music so you can then score the finished product.
It should be very cool.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 650 Tue Jul 12, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:51 EDT
You must understand that I *cannot* comment on this publication one way
or another. My one request has always been to keep fan fiction out of
anywhere where I can easily see it or run into it, since I will never directly
seek it out. In terms of a fanzine, I cannot legally comment.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 656 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:43 EDT
Goodman...*not* to take sides in this, but just to clarify a
misperception on your part...something need not bring in a profit in order to
violate copyright. The act of publishing something, using copyrighted
characters, is infringement pure and simple. And many of the studios now
*are* going after fanzines, for the simple reason that if they don't, you run
the risk of *losing* your copyright by allowing some things to enter the
public domain.
For instance, PTEN recently had to go after a computer company for buying
ads using B5 photos without copyright attribution on the photo; those photos
now run the danger of entering public domain. They had to take sharp legal
action. (This happened with some Star Wars stuff, by the way, and some Star
Trek early stuff.) The issue is *not* as you represent it.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 663 Thu Jul 14, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:58 EDT
It's definitely a book I'd like to see done, but nothing's firm yet.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 667 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:23 EDT
Not yet, but we've been talking about it.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 17
Message 669 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:23 EDT
No, they are not.
Any script broker selling copies of B5 scripts is doing so without
permission. They are engaging in copyright infringement. The contents of the
scripts belong to PTEN, but the physical copies belong to the writers, who get
nothing out of this. It ruins, for instance, Christy's chance to make a few
dollars selling what is hers, if her script gets on the open market.
jms
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Topic 23 Fri Feb 12, 1993
V.VAIDY1 [Vijay] at 23:00 EST
Sub: "OtherWorks" by JMS
Before there was "B5" and when "JMS" was just another Plain Joe, there was
OtherSyde
[A discussion of the other works of J. Michael Straczynski]
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Category 18, Topic 23
Message 171 Tue Jul 12, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:01 EDT
...i hate you...all of you....
jms
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Category 18, Topic 23
Message 177 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:40 EDT
...fine...great...next thing you'll be dragging he-man and she-ra into
this...go ahead...kick a guy when he's down....
jms
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Category 18, Topic 23
Message 182 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:12 EDT
And that's when I shot her, your Honor.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 23
Message 187 Thu Jul 14, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:11 EDT
Well, actually, I'm not really ashamed of any of it...there was some
good work done in all of those shows...it's just when I look back at them,
it's like looking back at anything you did; your brain goes into vapor
lock. You're tooling along the B5 freeway, minding your own business, and
somebody suddenly tosses a Jayce into the middle of the road, and your
brain trips over it for a moment.
About six, seven months ago, I dragged out some of the old animated
stuff, and while some of it has worn, a lot of it still plays pretty
well. Out of dozens of episodes, I think there are only 3 or so that I'd
like to eliminate from the known universe. (One of them is the CBS
Storybreak I wrote, adapting "The Shy Stegosaurus of Cricket Creek," which
I finally got to see after 5 years, much to my regret.)
For anyone who cares:
HE-MAN AND THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE - a dozen or more episodes
SHE-RA, PRINCESS OF POWER - ditto
JAYCE AND THE WHEELED WARRIORS - ditto
THE REAL GHOSTBUSTERS - close to 20 episodes
I think that's all of them. Developed ELFQUEST for CBS, but it
never got near the air, and one syndicated show that got so perverted by
the producers, in a bad way, that I took my name off the series.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 23
Message 193 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:06 EDT
I believe the episode title in "Jayce" was "Final Ride at Journey's End."
Someone wants revenge, sets things in motion, realizes to his horror that
innocents will be killed, and sacrifices his own life to stop his own actions.
What would Elfquest have been like? Like the books. I figure my job in
adapting something is to stay as close as possible to the original source, and
not mess with it.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 23
Message 196 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:24 EDT
Actually, the eps I wrote for AW were never released; they were part of
the batch done for the last season, which never got aired or released.
jms
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Topic 24 Fri Jun 04, 1993
J.ROY18 [Jonathan] at 21:11 EDT
Sub: Babylon 5 - Weapons and Warfare!
For discussion about the weapons, counter weapons, armor, shielding, tactics,
logistics, and so forth, of small combat and large scale war in the Babylon 5
universe.
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Category 18, Topic 24
Message 308 Sun Jul 10, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:53 EDT
There are definitely PPG assault rifles, which are visible in "Grail."
They can fire faster than pistols, but I don't think they could handle the
power-buildup to fire 3-6 per second. That's definitely slug-thrower turf.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 24
Message 312 Sun Jul 10, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 21:14 EDT
Correct, PPG bursts don't bounce off walls/ricochet, or penetrate walls,
which would imperil others.
jms
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Topic 25 Fri Mar 12, 1993
S.SHELLENBAR [>> SHANE <<] at 08:47 EST
Sub: J. Michael Straczynski Speaks in Public
This is the place to find out where and when JMS will be appearing next. JMS
has honed his skills as a public speaker and is taking his act on the road.
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Category 18, Topic 25
Message 563 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:30 EDT
I'm told there's also some kinda B5 panel on Friday...?
jms
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Category 18, Topic 25
Message 566 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:34 EDT
Okay, as I understand it, given a call today from the mysterious Nancy
with SDCC, my main panel/episode showing will be Friday, from 2-4 p.m. I'd
originally figured that there should be two panels, one a straightforward
panel, the other mainly a showing, but they got jammed into one. Initially
they'd slated it for 3 hours, 2-5, but I can't see subjecting *anyone* to
three hours in a chair.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 25
Message 574 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:41 EDT
Yeah, I'd *really* wanted Saturday afternoon, and pressed for it, but
was told that it was booked (thus breaking the Saturday tradition).
jms
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Topic 30 Mon Jul 04, 1994
D.KAUFFMAN5 [CyberDad] at 13:14 EDT
Sub: Nods, In-Jokes, and References
Post any nods, in-jokes, or references you have seen here. For example,
Babylon 5 refers to the Babylon of ancient Earth; the location of B5 is at
Grid Epsilon 470/18/22, the location of the original B5 topic on GEnie.
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Category 18, Topic 30
Message 6 Mon Jul 04, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:41 EDT
Lurkers is indeed a net reference. Bill Mitchell from "Sky" is a
reference to General Billy Mitchell; Walker Smith is the real name of Sugar
Ray Robinson.
Just a couple to keep the ball rolling.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 30
Message 16 Tue Jul 05, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 05:29 EDT
Nearly all of our production crew appear in "By Any Means Necessary" at
various spots; the guy yelling "I say we STRIKE!" is our director, Jim
Johnston. And yes, John Flinn was played by John Flinn, our DP.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 30
Message 28 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:09 EDT
Well, it was certainly based on the "classic" UFO alien design, yes.
(And if there's a saucer parked in front of the B5 offices tomorrow, I'm not
going in.)
Both Christy Marx and Kathryn can both be *briefly* seen in the pilot
movie as BG in the casino...and in the main titles, Kathryn's back is to the
camera in the wide downshot, though you really can't make it out well in that
one. Also in the montage in the pilot movie, seated at the bar under
narration, the fellow with the beard, is art director John Iacovelli.]
jms
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Category 18, Topic 30
Message 30 Fri Jul 08, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:54 EDT
Boy, the most obscure reference in the bunch...yeah, I slipped some spoo
in there once. A couple of real cute (as in wanna drop a truck on them cute)
elf-types offer Skeletor a bowl of Spoo. His reply: (in a mincing tone to
start) "No, I don't want any SPOOOOOOO. I *hate* Spoo. (beat) And I don't
even know what Spoo IS."
jms
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Topic 31 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:23 EDT
Sub: Really Stupid Questions from JMS
Every so often, I need Information. (You won't get it!) Technical stuff,
research or reference stuff...and given the brain trust here, I figured this
could be a useful resource from time to time. With appreciation.
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Category 18, Topic 31
Message 1 Sat Jul 09, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:25 EDT
Okay, real simple question. Long discourses and discussions will only
confuse me and, finally, scare the hell out of me.
Should I buy the Dell Dimension XPS P90 now, or wait for the 604 chip to
come out with the Power PCs in the fall?
jms
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Category 18, Topic 31
Message 12 Sun Jul 10, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:13 EDT
Okay...so if you re-buy every 4 years, what the hell does one do with
one's old computers?
jm(who still has two old Kaypro systems sitting here)s
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Category 18, Topic 31
Message 20 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:42 EDT
I want a computer big enough to rule the world.
jms
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Category 18, Topic 31
Message 38 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:28 EDT
Can I get SCSI installed with the computer from Dell? Does PCI take the
place of SCSI? Will Jeff marry Sally?
Question: the Native American practice of "wars" in which you bonk each
other with gourds while riding on horseback, not really hurting anyone but
racking up points...that's called "counting coup," yes?
jms
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Category 19, Topic 19
Message 24 Wed Jul 06, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:17 EDT
Can I ask for more elucidation about what was shown in the trailer for
the episode after "Grail?"
If Londo was mentioned, there may be a glitch, since he doesn't appear in
either "Eyes" or "Legacies," the next couple up. Ah doesn't understand....
jms
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Category 19, Topic 19
Message 53 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:53 EDT
After "Grail," we had a discussion with Chris about funny music. We do
not anticipate further discussions. (In a full season of music for B5, this
is the only discussion we've had of a critical nature, which is extraordinary
for any series; he's done a lot of wonderful work for us.
In the two-parter, btw, he went absolutely full-out and gave us some of the
best scoring of the season...gorgeous stuff, second only to either "Sky" or
"Chrysalis.")
Mike: re: being "more realistic" in representing alien life...you show it
to me, and I'll do it. For now, we don't know *what* is "realistic." Maybe
crop circles are a wonderful forgery, abductions a psychological aberration,
and saucers mass hysteria. And maybe they're not. As someone noted, the
universe is not only stranger than we know, it is stranger than we *can* know.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 19
Message 61 Thu Jul 07, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:19 EDT
On the feeder being sentient...neither Sinclair nor anyone else on "our"
side of the story ever heard it speaking; all they knew was that it was a
killer, and it was dangerous, and had to be stopped.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 19
Message 114 Sun Jul 10, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:03 EDT
RE: the PPGs...sorry, Kiwi, I don't agree with you. We *have* shown burn
marks on clothing...in fact you'll get a good look at it in several upcoming
episodes. Those who've seen "Quality of Mercy" can vouch for that one alone.
And they do leave *brief* trails, but remember they are moving very fast,
almost too fast for the eye to see. These aren't rays, like phasers, they're
bursts of superheated plasma.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 19
Message 122 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:27 EDT
Yep, virtual ship.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 19
Message 128 Mon Jul 11, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 15:58 EDT
Thanks.
Hey, a guy's gotta have *some* fun....
jms
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Topic 20 Sun Apr 17, 1994
STARR [Arne] at 23:50 EDT
Sub: #122 - "Eyes"
by Larry G. DiTillio. Directed by Jim Johnston.
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Category 19, Topic 20
Message 8 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:09 EDT
BTW...about the time we were delivering "Eyes," somebody on one of the
nets was going on and on about how "B5 continuity *stinks*...I'll bet we NEVER
hear about Deathwalker again, or the strike, or the Vorlons killing
Deathwalker, or Raghesh 3...."
And seeing what was at that moment on my TV, I wanted to reach through
the computer monitor, roll up my forefinger, and *plink* that person right
upside the nose.
Unfortunately, I have not yet found a modem program that supports this
feature.
But Ron is promising me something by the Fall....
jms
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Category 19, Topic 20
Message 10 Wed Jul 13, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:38 EDT
Actually, we thought about it, but we covered that in an earlier episode
this season -- I think it was "War Prayer" -- so decided against it.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 20
Message 29 Thu Jul 14, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:53 EDT
Okay...I'm about to lose my temper, so anyone who doesn't want to see it,
skip to the next message.
Y'know, I am getting so goddamned tired of people who have no frame of
reference beyond the latest STAAAAAAAR TREEEEEEEKKKKKK episode labeling stuff,
to use the phrase uptopic, "little more than a remake of a TNG episode." Tell
me, do you *really* think that STAAAAAARRRR TREEEKKKKKKK invented the internal
investigations/trial story? If not, I have about 30 movies and a hundred or
so books to show you.
The logic of any such investigation is that you're going to come in, and
you're going to pull in the head of security because that person has
information you're going to need. What, do you think Star Trek thunk that up?
It's SOP in such situations. But because we did it, that makes it Star Trek.
Are you aware that neither I, nor Larry, ever *saw* "The Drumhead?" So
now you tell me how we make this "little more than a remake."
Further...you don't think. Damn it, you don't *think* about what you're
saying. You just type it in. Someone who owns the RIGHTS to a story can do a
REMAKE. If you lift a story from another series and to it (do it) yourself,
that's not a remake, that's theft. That's called plagiarism. You in essence
call Larry a thief. Dance around it all you want to, that's what plagiarism
*is*. And that's *precisely* what you accuse in your message.
Because YOU don't have a frame of reference outside TNG, suddenly Larry's
a thief.
Let me state this clearly, so the less synaptically enabled will be able
to understand it: I do not watch ST in any of its incarnations. I have no
desire to do any story that TNG has done. If I discover that any story we do
comes close, I try to change it. My operating theory is that a proper B5
story would be undoable in the ST universe. We do NOT do "remakes" of TNG
episodes. I did not work seven years of my damned life to do "remakes" of
TNG episodes, and I resent the hell out of this crap, which floats to the top
of the discussion every once in a while, usually from people who should maybe
watch something other than TNG once in a while and broaden out their
repertoire.
If TNG did or did not do a story similar to us is irrelevant to th4e fact
that we DO NOT do TNG remakes, and we DO NOT borrow stories from TNG, ever, at
any time, for any reason.
In the last two weeks, I've had to defend David Gerrold who got hit by
accusations that the premise for "Believers" was stolen from TNG because THEY
did a story about religious parents who don't want their kid operated on for
religious reasons, and lord KNOWS *they* originated that story...DC Fontana
got a few of the same when "War Prayer" came out, and I'm getting just a
little tired and cranky about people who do not fully grasp the implications
of what they are talking about offhandedly saying it's a remake or was
borrowed. How'd you like it, Kiwi, if I sat here and casually accused you of
shoplifting? Or sleeping around on your wife or girlfriend? Well, the
accusation of plagiarism/story borrowing is no less offensive to *any* working
writer.
Are we absolutely, crystal clear on this?
jms
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Message 37 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:57 EDT
Yeah, well, at least on days when I'm cranky it'll give me the
opportunity to come up with material that I can sidestream into dialogue for
Ivanova. I intend to use "synaptically challenged" the first chance I get.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 20
Message 41 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 15:50 EDT
Thanks; yeah, it's good to know that we don't seem to have, or need
people jumping hoops to try and make things work or make sense. It's a pretty
good conversation (despite ye olde author's occasional crankiness). If
anything, I'm harder on the episodes than anyone else, since I know all the
elements that might have been stronger or different, and I always, *always*
want to go back one more time and tweak something, adjust something. And for
what it's worth...yeah, the pilot wasn't all it should've been. But we've
moved on, and I think so far the season has been very good. Win, lose or
draw, I think we've made a mark.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 20
Message 43 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:12 EDT
Kiwi...you're full of it. This has got nothing to do with expressing
negative opinions. That's a dodge. There's been plenty of negative opinion
expressed here and elsewhere, along with all the positive stuff, and I haven't
said a word about it. And frankly I'm getting tired of people who mouth off
about something in an offensive way, then saying when they get called on it
that I'm trying to suppress negative opinion.
And I'm not talking about comparisons here. I'm addressing what you
*specifically* wrote, that this was "little more than a remake of Drumhead."
You didn't say that it explored the same themes, which would've been fine,
you didn't say that it stayed in the same areas as cop shows, which also
would've been fine...you not only said that it was a remake, you then listed a
point-by-point comparison.
You're the one dancing around semantics here. I'm not tired of or
discouraging comparisons, I'm tired of people who don't know what the hell
they're talking about saying that we're ripped off/remade/borrowed a Star Trek
story. Which is what you said. It's right there in the message. It's got
nothing to do with negative opinions, and everything to do with a false
accusation on your part.
You don't like it? Fine. But I have a tendency to prefer the truth,
stated harshly, to a falsehood stated casually.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 20
Message 51 Fri Jul 15, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:11 EDT
The other thing about "Eyes," btw, is that it's not something dumped in
outta nowhere to make a conflict; it's the direct payoff of events that take
place throughout the season where Sinclair breaks or bends the rules. Lots of
people on the various nets said, "Yeah, there he goes, breaking the rules in
the strike, but is this every gonna pay off? No, probably not." If we're
consistent with reality, and with our story, and Sinclair's broken some rules,
and pissed off some people back home, then it is *inevitable* that this will
eventually come home to roost in the form of an investigation.
jms
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Category 19, Topic 20
Message 57 Sat Jul 16, 1994
STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:20 EDT
"Memo to myself: don't ever compare an episode of B5 to an episode of
Star Trek without first researching the entirety of written fiction for non-
Trek precedents."
That's a snotty response that has nothing to do with the issue that I
gigged you on. You can compare anything to anything, I really don't care.
All that I have asked you to do is be aware of your language when you accuse
someone of stealing something? Why is that so difficult for you to grasp?
You keep trying to distort my point into something that it's not, and I
have no intention of letting you get away with it. You said we did a remake
of an ST episode. You didn't discuss the issues, you said it was a remake.
You implied the story was lifted from ST. That is what you said. I'm sorry
if it's now inconvenient for you, or that you got your nose caught in the
doorjam, but words mean what they mean, not what you want them to mean.
And I find it very telling that when confronted, you announced that your
only options were to slink off or throw this in my face. Odd that you
wouldn'd consider something like, "Sorry, it wasn't my intention to indicate
that Larry had stolen the idea. I regret if that was implied."
Guess that never even occured to you, did it?
You can dance around re-interpretations all you want, Halliwell, but your
comment was rude, and pejorative, and an insult to Larry, and by association
to me. And it's got nothing to do with comparisons or the entirety of written
fiction. And that's clear to every person here but you. You're evading and
backing and filling.
You get very cavalier here about other people, about the work that others
do, their talents or lack thereof...you're always the first in line to
criticize somebody...but you don't much like it when it's you, do you? Why
should I treat you with any more respect than you treat others? Now, on
another day, maybe I'd just turn the other cheek, which I do a *lot* around
here, and let it go. But today, now, here, I don't much feel like it. Maybe
I've heard this line once too often from people, and you're just the latest
one to get in my face with it. Either way, maybe you'll learn something about
running one's mouth, and that words have meaning, and if you accuse somebody
of remaking somebody else's idea, you'd damned well better be prepared to back
it up, or back off and apologize.
Or is even that modicum of civilized behavior completely beyond your
comprehension?
We'll know in your next post whether you intend to act like a man, or a
weasel. It's your call.
jms
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