The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  4. _Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
  5. - [13]Notes - [14]JMS
  6. _________________________________________________________________
  7. Overview
  8. Fourth season finale. A look back at the impact of Babylon 5 from
  9. 100, 500, 1000, and 1000000 years in the future.
  10. [15]P5 Rating: [16]8.50
  11. Production number: 422 (but see [17]Notes)
  12. Original air week: October 27, 1997
  13. Written by J. Michael Straczynski
  14. Directed by Stephen Furst
  15. _Warning: This episode contains spoilers for future episodes, as it's
  16. mostly in the form of retrospectives from future viewpoints._
  17. _________________________________________________________________
  18. Plot Points
  19. * Some people on Earth are highly skeptical that the Interstellar
  20. Alliance will work, and distrust Sheridan's motives and ability.
  21. * The station will be under the command of a Captain Lochley in
  22. 2262.
  23. * With Sheridan's permission, a colony of telepaths will be
  24. established on Babylon 5 sometime in 2262. Eventually they will
  25. turn against him.
  26. * Garibaldi will be held hostage, possibly by the telepaths, in
  27. 2262. The hostage situation will end in gunfire.
  28. * Babylon 5 will be destroyed (though under what circumstances isn't
  29. clear) in 2282.
  30. * Sheridan will die in 2282 under mysterious circumstances that will
  31. still be debated 80 years later. Popular opinion will hold that he
  32. died on Minbar, but not everyone will agree. Later legend will
  33. hold that he was carried bodily into heaven.
  34. * Delenn will live until at least 2362, though she'll spend many of
  35. the intervening years out of public view, leading some to wonder
  36. if she's still alive.
  37. * In 2762, Earth will again be divided into two factions, one in
  38. favor of breaking away from the Interstellar Alliance and another
  39. in favor of remaining. The two sides will launch a devastating
  40. war, rendering the surface of the Earth nearly uninhabitable.
  41. * In 3262, the survivors of that war, now known as the "Great Burn,"
  42. will largely have lost all records of the time before the war. At
  43. least one order of monks, marginally part of the Roman Catholic
  44. Church, will work to gather and preserve historical records.
  45. They'll be aided in secret by agents of the Rangers, who will
  46. slowly "discover" pieces of pre-Burn technology to inch Earth's
  47. people back toward the stars.
  48. * The Rangers will still exist in some form a million years hence,
  49. and will still consider Sheridan and Delenn to be their founders.
  50. They will be involved in the building of something called "New
  51. Earth," though what that is isn't clear.
  52. * One million years in the future, humans will apparently have
  53. evolved into noncorporeal entities (like Lorien, [18]"Into the
  54. Fire") and will make use of Vorlon-style encounter suits and
  55. organic ships.
  56. * Earth's sun will go nova in a million years.
  57. Unanswered Questions
  58. * Is Garibaldi back on B5 to stay? What about Lise?
  59. * Who were the people holding Garibaldi hostage? The telepaths?
  60. * Who, if anyone, did Garibaldi's captor shoot? Or was the shot
  61. fired by someone else?
  62. * What was the incident with Sheridan and Delenn's son?
  63. * What happened to Mars and Earth's other colonies during the Great
  64. Burn?
  65. * Why did the sun go nova? As the sun isn't expected to do so
  66. naturally for billions of years, if at all (according to
  67. 20th-century astrophysics, anyway) did someone or something cause
  68. it to happen?
  69. Analysis
  70. * Among the crowd greeting Sheridan and Delenn as they returned to
  71. B5 was a man holding a sign reading, "Sic transit gloria mundis."
  72. That translates approximately to, "Worldly glory/fame is
  73. transitory." That could be viewed as a negative comment,
  74. expressing the opinion that whatever they build will be temporary.
  75. On the other hand, that's also the Latin phrase spoken to a newly
  76. elected Pope after the ballots are burned and the ashes dropped
  77. before him, a reminder that a greater purpose is being served and
  78. any individual's contribution is small in comparison. In any case,
  79. it appears at least one human agrees with Londo's opinion that
  80. marriage celebrations should include somber reflection.
  81. * Though the implication was that the gunshot at the end of the
  82. video clip in 2362 was directed at Garibaldi, that's not certain.
  83. It could as easily have been someone else firing at one of his
  84. captors to prevent his death.
  85. * The 2362 historians' interpretation of the outcome of Sheridan
  86. allowing telepaths to set up a colony of Babylon 5 -- the worst
  87. mistake of his career, they claimed he as much as said -- may have
  88. been shaded by their less than cheritable views about Sheridan.
  89. The actual events may have been much less disastrous than they
  90. implied.
  91. * It's possible Delenn's appearance in 2362 wasn't entirely a
  92. coincidence. The moderator appeared to be sympathetic to her point
  93. of view (though he could have just been playing devil's advocate
  94. to spark discussion) and may have warned her of the upcoming
  95. broadcast and its likely tone.
  96. * The holographic simulation of Franklin was trying to create
  97. alien/human hybrids, the same accusation that was leveled against
  98. B5 by the Clark administration's propagandists ([19]"The Illusion
  99. of Truth.")
  100. * The Ranger said he still had time to join "the celebration" before
  101. the sun went nova. What was being celebrated? The Earth's
  102. destruction? New Earth's creation?
  103. * Londo said when he came aboard the station that jubilant
  104. celebration was how Centauri celebrated a funeral. Perhaps the
  105. humans of a million years hence took up that custom, and were
  106. celebrating the death of their homeworld Centauri-style. If so, it
  107. would provide a subtle symmetry between the beginning of the
  108. episode and the end.
  109. * The Ranger's rush to send the records to New Earth would seem to
  110. imply that the sun going nova wasn't an expected event, which in
  111. turn implies that it was artificially induced. If the nova were a
  112. natural event, there would presumably have been years -- more
  113. likely centuries -- of warning, plenty of time to evacuate people
  114. and historical records.
  115. * The Ranger's effort to preserve Earth's history echoes Sinclair's
  116. comment in [20]"Infection" that all of humanity's accomplishments
  117. would be lost when the sun died unless people took to the stars.
  118. * The Ranger's parting line, "This is how the world ends. Swallowed
  119. in fire, but not in darkness," echoes Kosh's reply to Emperor
  120. Turhan ([21]"The Coming of Shadows") that the situation would end
  121. in fire.
  122. * One other event was predicted to occur in a million years: it's
  123. when Jason Ironheart said he'd see Sinclair again ([22]"Mind
  124. War.") Coincidence, or does Ironheart (or Sinclair) play some part
  125. in whatever is happening in the distant future? The Ranger
  126. appeared to be noncorporeal, implying perhaps that the rest of
  127. humanity took a million years to catch up to Ironheart's level of
  128. development.
  129. Notes
  130. * The 2262 newscast referred to Sheridan's visit to the Dalai Lama
  131. in Tibet. But the picture shown was of a group of Buddhist monks
  132. with golden robes, typical of the Golden Triangle area (Vietnam,
  133. Thailand, Cambodia.) Tibetan Buddhist monks wear maroon robes. Of
  134. course, it's possible that changed between the 20th and 23rd
  135. centuries.
  136. * The first question in the 2362 sequence was asked by someone named
  137. Ray Winston. This may be a reference to the cartoon "The Real
  138. Ghostbusters," on which JMS served as producer. Ray and Winston
  139. were the names of two of the characters.
  140. * The insignia on Daniel's uniform in 2762 was nearly identical to
  141. the logo of the Nazi SS organization.
  142. * Daniel's language (e.g. "realfacts" and "goodfacts") is a
  143. reference to George Orwell's "1984," which introduced terms such
  144. as "doublespeak" and dealt heavily with the relation between
  145. language and propaganda.
  146. * Daniel also made a brief mention of "psychohistory," which is a
  147. reference to Isaac Asimov's "Foundation" novels. In the novels,
  148. psychohistory is a science that can predict large-scale human
  149. societal behavior.
  150. * It's possible Garibaldi is responsible for the Great Burn. The war
  151. between Earth's two factions might have proceeded the same way
  152. with or without Garibaldi's subterfuge. But it's not inconceivable
  153. that if Daniel's superiors had made the first strike, the other
  154. side might have capitulated, or the war might have been over more
  155. quickly for other reasons. Of course, it's also possible that it
  156. would have been even worse, perhaps wiping out Earth altogether.
  157. * The 3262 sequence may be a nod to Walter Miller's novel "A
  158. Canticle for Leibowitz," about an order of monks trying to
  159. preserve the knowledge of the past after a devastating war.
  160. * During the 3262 sequence, the Roman numerals in the lower left
  161. corner appear to be camera numbers; they corresponded to the
  162. different angles from which the scene was shown. Presumably the
  163. cameras were all well-hidden.
  164. * The caption under the picture of the Ranger in the book Brother
  165. Stephen is illuminating appears to say, "Rangers eis nomen est,"
  166. which translates to, "Their name is Rangers."
  167. * Although this episode is part of the fifth-season production run,
  168. it's actually the fourth-season finale. The fifth-season finale,
  169. [23]"Sleeping in Light," was shot during the fourth-season
  170. production run because it wasn't clear that the show was being
  171. renewed; once the renewal was announced, another episode had to be
  172. substituted. For some reason the onscreen credits at the end of
  173. the episode don't reflect that; they list a production number of
  174. 422 rather than the more accurate 501.
  175. * The title sequence was changed slightly from the regular season
  176. four sequence. A clip of the Agamemnon flying through the
  177. explosion of the defense platform in [24]"Endgame" was inserted
  178. just before the cast credits, and Claudia Christian's name was
  179. removed from the cast list.
  180. * The episode's dedication: "Dedicated to all the people who
  181. predicted that the Babylon Project would fail in its mission.
  182. Faith manages." This is probably a dig at pundits on Usenet and
  183. elsewhere who confidently said every year that B5 wouldn't be
  184. renewed for another season.
  185. * Shooting began August 18, 1997.
  186. jms speaks
  187. * _Why was Claudia Christian's name taken out of the credits but
  188. Jason Carter's left in?_
  189. We had no choice. Contractually, when we moved "Sleeping in Light"
  190. into the fifth season, we had to move her credit from
  191. "Deconstruction" or incur an additional episode's payment. We
  192. didn't even realize this until WB called and put us on notice
  193. about this literally 3 days before the episode was uplinked. It
  194. wasn't a choice we had; they said that it had to be moved. We
  195. could leave Jason in the credits because he didn't appear in SiL.
  196. * _Any significance to the Agamemnon clip used to replace her
  197. credit?_
  198. It seemed an appropriate placeholder when WB told us we had to
  199. omit Claudia's credit because she also appears in (the new) 522,
  200. "Sleeping in Light," to avoid incurring fees.
  201. * _Since this episode was numbered 422 rather than 501, will the
  202. production numbers of season 5 episodes be changed too?_
  203. Yes, the S5 episodes will be renumbered prior to broadcast.
  204. More Soviet Revisionism in action....
  205. * _Do you ever get the urge to thumb your nose at people on the net
  206. who predict B5's demise?_
  207. Nope...no intentions of doing that.
  208. I have something MUCH better in mind....
  209. * It's discreet...but not obscure.
  210. And best of all...it's eternal...and the whackos who've bugged me
  211. for five years are not.
  212. * A few people have interpreted the final card as "meanspirited"
  213. (when it's on one level a reaction *to* five years of constant
  214. carping and meanspiritedness from lots of sectors, from the nets
  215. to the press and elsewhere)...but what it is, is a statement of
  216. hope. That whenever you try something different, there are going
  217. to be naysayers, and people who say it can't be done, and
  218. certainly can't be done by *you*.
  219. It ain't just B5, it's any dream out there.
  220. And in the end, they are wrong.
  221. Faith manages.
  222. That's the message of the card.
  223. That, and the truth that in 10 years the naysayers will be
  224. forgotten, and made irrelevant...but the show, the *show*...goes
  225. on. And will be around long after they and I have gone to dust.
  226. And all people will know when they see that card, 50 years from
  227. now, was that some jerks said it couldn't be done, and they were
  228. wrong, because they are *always* wrong. If you have the dream, the
  229. ability and the passion, you can bring your dreams to life despite
  230. overwhelming opposition. That's the message.
  231. But for those on the other side, they will never see anything
  232. other than meanspiritedness because that's all they can *ever*
  233. see...because that's all they can bring to the table.
  234. There's an old saying about books, which I'll rephrase to include
  235. B5: Babylon 5 is like a book, and a book is like a mirror: if an
  236. ass peers in, you can't exactly expect an apostle to peer out.
  237. * There will always be short-term setbacks, but as long as we climb
  238. back a few inches higher than we were before we fell down, we keep
  239. moving toward the goal of becoming a better people, and getting
  240. off the planet. Taking our place among the stars. While it's
  241. vaguely possible that I may *see* a Mars colony sometime within my
  242. lifetime, I know that I will never live there...but that ain't the
  243. point, it isn't a victory if *I* do it, and a failure if *I*
  244. don't, it's if *we* do it or not. Maybe we'll do it today, maybe
  245. we'll do it tomorrow, the point is to decide to DO it, and then by
  246. god DO IT.
  247. And yeah, that little closing card is going to remain on the show
  248. for its life...which will be long, long after its detractors (and
  249. admittedly myself) have gone to dust. On the one hand, it is a
  250. statement of hope to anyone else out there who has a dream, to
  251. follow it no matter who speaks against you, no matter the odds, no
  252. matter what they say to or about you, no matter what roadblocks
  253. they throw in your way. What matters is that you remain true to
  254. your vision.
  255. On the other hand, for the reviewers and the pundits and the
  256. critics and the net-stalkers who have done nothing but rag on this
  257. show for five years straight, it is also a giant middle finger
  258. composed of red neon fifty stories tall, that will burn forever in
  259. the night.
  260. In billiards, we call that a bank-shot.
  261. * _Does the Great Burn mean the B5 crew ultimately failed?_
  262. It depends on your point of view.
  263. The fact, as I see it, is that no one and nothing will ever solve
  264. all of our problems at once, now and forever. People will always
  265. be people. You can't wave a magic wand and fix it all.
  266. Yes, there was another war...but had the Shadows not been stopped
  267. by our characters, there likely wouldn't have been a human race at
  268. ALL anymore.
  269. Yes, there was a war, and many died in it...as tends to happen in
  270. war...but the nominal right side in it came out on top, which
  271. would not have been the case but for Garibaldi's simulacra giving
  272. them a leg up on things.
  273. We have had, continue to have, and will always have wars, and
  274. grief, and struggle...we will climb up and fall down...but each
  275. time we climb a little higher, and in the end, we *do* build the
  276. world that our ancestors would have wanted for us...we *do* leave
  277. the cradle at last, and we take our place among the stars teaching
  278. those who follow us.
  279. For my money, that's as happy an ending as we or anyone can ever
  280. hope for.
  281. * _You spoiled the events of season five!_
  282. As with anything else, B5 (in whatever incarnation) is about
  283. *process*. You saw Londo being strangled by G'Kar...but you didn't
  284. know how they got there. You know the result of the Earth/Minbari
  285. war...but I suspect there will be a lot of surprises in "In the
  286. Beginning."
  287. As with all things, the joy is in the going. We all know we're
  288. going to die, that as the poet said, "we are born astride the
  289. grave." But knowing that inevitable reality has never stopped
  290. human endeavor before....
  291. It's the journey and the doing that matters.
  292. * Re: speechwriters and others hanging around after the fall...look
  293. at the remains of the Soviet Union. After the fall of the
  294. communist party, you'd think they would all have been run out of
  295. town on a rail. But many of them just shifted over and found
  296. similar positions, or kept the communist party going, after
  297. everything they'd done.
  298. The problem with most people is that they don't hold a grudge near
  299. long enough.
  300. I'd have to check, but yeah, I believe we stuck a ranger symbol on
  301. the encounter suit.
  302. * _About the 2362 sequence_
  303. Stephen filmed that sequence by having all of the cast on the set
  304. at the same time, running multiple film cameras to get each
  305. version "live."
  306. * _From a discussion of a 1997 convention featuring Stephen Furst_
  307. BTW, if you want to flip Stephen out, and you get this before
  308. leaving the con, give him the following message from me (I don't
  309. have the hotel info at hand). Tell him Joe says this:
  310. "Don't worry anymore about using mainly securecam style coverage
  311. in act 3, I've just come up with another approach where I can
  312. cover it in dialogue to let you do whatever you want with the
  313. camera, so you'll have all the flexibility there you want."
  314. Here's a use of a convention you haven't seen much before....
  315. * _The "Just Married" label was missing from the shuttle when it
  316. docked._
  317. The painted letters were on the *right* side of the shuttle as it
  318. went in. The CGI inside the bay showed the left side.
  319. We don't miss these things.
  320. * _How did Delenn get into the studio?_
  321. Most TV studios that I've seen have back doors that open out onto
  322. the back lot or the outside for fire control reasons. You can get
  323. into any of the 3 B5 stages from the outside in, oh, about 5
  324. seconds through any of a number of doors. (Note to anyone looking
  325. on: yes, those stage doors are secured, and there are guards, and
  326. unless you're a Minbari you're not getting in.) And most of the TV
  327. studios I've been in have been the same.
  328. * It was mainly Earth that bore the burden of the great Burn, and
  329. yes, that was the one Garibaldi got into....
  330. * _Wouldn't the colonies offer Earth some help?_
  331. Some probably would offer to help...but if technology is now
  332. suspect, some might not want that help...other colonies might be
  333. of the "screw 'em, they got what they deserved"
  334. perspective...often politics gets in the way of charity.
  335. * "By any chance, is the post-apocalyptic religious order shown in
  336. "Deconstruction . ." a direct decendant of Brother Theo's order on
  337. Babylon 5?"
  338. It's altogether possible....
  339. And Theo is only awaiting a story worth bringing him in for.
  340. * Interesting aside...for the last 6-8 months, I've been doing a
  341. fair amount of research into medieval England, especially the
  342. medieval church, for a play I'm writing (which may become a novel
  343. if I'm not careful). Dumped several hundred dollars on a massive
  344. order from Amazon.com back a few months ago to fill out what I
  345. needed. That was what tangentially led me into the post-Burn
  346. sequence in "Deconstruction." My brain has been full of monks for
  347. the last 8 months or so, and knowing the role they played in
  348. maintaining secular knowledge from about 500 AD and for some time
  349. thereafter, that seemed the perfect route to go that would also
  350. resonate with the look of the Rangers and the religious caste
  351. Minbari and the whole feel we were setting up.
  352. It was only when I was about halfway into the act that I thought,
  353. "Oh, crud, this is the same area Canticle explored." And for
  354. several days I set it aside and strongly considered dropping it,
  355. or changing the venue (at one point considered setting it in the
  356. ruins of a university, but I couldn't make that work
  357. realistically...who'd be supporting a university in the ruins of a
  358. major nuclear war? Who'd have the *resources* I needed? The
  359. church, or what would at least LOOK like the church. My sense of
  360. backstory here is that the Anla-shok moved in and started little
  361. "abbeys" all over the place, using the church as cover, but rarely
  362. actually a part of it, which was why they had not gotten their
  363. recognition, and would never get it. Rome probably didn't even
  364. know about them, or knew them only distantly.)
  365. Anyway...at the end of the day, I decided to leave it as it was,
  366. since I'd gotten there on an independent road, we'd already had a
  367. number of monks on B5, and there's been a LOT of theocratic
  368. science fiction written beyond Canticle...Gather Darkness, aspects
  369. of Foundation, others.
  370. * The future wasn't being transmitted back; we were seeing the
  371. records of the past from the point of view of the final character,
  372. one million years hence, who has come to collect them prior to the
  373. final chapter in Earth's history.
  374. * "My personal nit is that JMS has the sun going nova in only a
  375. million years. This seems several orders of magnitude too soon for
  376. me."
  377. Actually, the computer voice specifies that it is continuing to
  378. note atypical solar emissions...atypical meaning something unusual
  379. is going on.
  380. * And what if you, say, interfered substantially with the mass of
  381. the sun by, say, causing a series of jump points to open up
  382. *inside* the sun across several days?
  383. * You'd also substantially decrease the mass of Sol, which as I
  384. understand it, would result in the sun going nova.
  385. * A lot of folks have found the eventual "going out" of Sol to be
  386. depressing...but as was stated 'way back in our VERY FIRST
  387. EPISODE, this is the one thing we can be sure WILL happen, sooner
  388. or later (probably later). _Ed. note: "Infection" was indeed the
  389. first episode shot, but aired fourth._
  390. All the more reason to get off the planet, asap.
  391. * _Did the future humans leave the galaxy as the Vorlons did?_
  392. No point in leaving the galaxy; stars go nova, it only affects the
  393. immediate vicinity (big as that is). By this point, they were in
  394. the position of the Vorlons, and now have to take their (our)
  395. place guiding the younger races, the next wave, while not getting
  396. in the way and remembering the lesson of the shadow/vorlon
  397. conflict.
  398. * _[[2/16]]_ _What about the other races?_
  399. The Minbari eventually make it; the Narn and Centauri do not. They
  400. don't die out, they just don't hit a state of First One-ishness,
  401. which is darn close to immortality (barring violence).
  402. * _Was Sinclair prescient? Did you have the sun's destruction mapped
  403. out way back in season one?_
  404. One needn't be prescient...it's *going* to happen one day.
  405. And to the second half...yeah, Deconstruction (or at least the
  406. events that would go into it) was mapped out back then.
  407. * I think it's fair to say that Sinclair has been in large measure
  408. forgotten by Earth by the time of Deconstruction...but Valen lives
  409. on in the memories of the Minbari...a reasonable trade-off.
  410. * _They were speaking English a million years in the future?_
  411. That's what you heard, that doesn't mean that's what it was; same
  412. as when you go to Minbar, they're not speaking English, that's
  413. just our hearing of it.
  414. _Since when do news anchors quote the Bible?_
  415. Ted Koppel.
  416. _Why were Sheridan's childhood photos in black and white?_
  417. Even now portraits are often done in black and white just for
  418. artistic merit.
  419. _NYU is still around in the future?_
  420. Trinity College is a working college in Ireland that dates back to
  421. the American Revolution.
  422. * _Did Lise and Garibaldi get married?_
  423. No, they're not yet married.
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  452. 26. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/088.html#TOP
  453. 27. file://localhost/cgi-bin/uncgi/lgmail
  454. 28. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/episodes.php
  455. 29. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/087.html
  456. 30. file://localhost/home/woodstock/hyperion/docs/lurk/guide/089.html
  457. 31. file://localhost/lurk/lastmod.html