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- _Contents:_ [7]Overview - [8]Backplot - [9]Questions - [10]Analysis -
- [11]Notes - [12]JMS
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- Overview
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- The Vorlon ambassador is nearly killed by an assassin shortly after
- arriving at the station, and Commander Sinclair is the prime
- suspect. [13]Tamlyn Tomita as Lt. Cmdr. Laurel Takashima(*).
- [14]Blaire Baron as Carolyn Sykes(*). [15]Johnny Sekka as Dr.
- Benjamin Kyle(*). [16]Patricia Tallman as Lyta Alexander(*).
- [17]John Fleck as Del Varner. [18]Paul Hampton as the Senator.
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- (*) These characters were originally planned as recurring characters
- throughout the series, but were replaced for various reasons.
- [19]P5 Rating: [20]6.00
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- Production number: 0 (Pilot)
- Original air date: Feb 22, 1993
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- Written by J. Michael Straczynski
- Directed by Richard Compton
-
- _Note: There are two versions of "The Gathering," the original one as
- initially aired in 1993 and a reedited special edition first aired in
- 1998. Items that only apply to one version are so marked._
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- Backplot
-
- * Earth has been keeping genetic records of telepaths for the last 6
- generations.
- * The Psi Corps takes children with psi abilities when they are
- young and trains them to use this ability in a very strict manner.
- There are definite rules governing the use of psi. No unauthorized
- mind scans. No gambling.
- * All races but the Narn have telepathy.
- * The Narn are a young but powerful civilization, with (G'Kar
- claims) unlimited manpower.
- * The Narn heard about the reason for the Minbari surrender in the
- Earth-Minbari war - a decision from their Grey Council (a secret
- group of "holy men").
- * The Minbari are the oldest of the "five federations," and
- centuries ahead of the others technologically.
- * Londo says to Garibaldi: "You know why I am here? I'm here to
- grovel before your wonderful Earth Alliance, in hopes of attaching
- ourselves to your destiny. [...] There was a time, when this whole
- _quadrant_ belonged to us! What are we now? Twelve worlds and a
- thousand monuments to past glories, living off memories and
- stories, selling trinkets."
- * Centauri status is based on family history. Political and personal
- power must be built up over generations.
- * The Narn were once enslaved by the Centauri and have only recently
- gained independence. This seems to be a sensitive spot for the
- Narn, or at least G'Kar. (cf: [21]"Midnight on the Firing Line")
- * Sinclair fought in the last battle of the Earth-Minbari war, the
- Line. In the midst of battle, he blacked out while attacking a
- Minbari warship and remained unconscious for 24 hrs. He has no
- idea what happened to him during those 24 hrs. (cf: [22]"And the
- Sky Full of Stars")
- * Takashima used to work at a corrupt mining station on Mars.
- Refusing to go on the take, she was never going to get promoted
- out of there. She recounts lashing out and "breaking the rules"
- out of frustration at it all. However, Sinclair was her superior
- there for a while, and he got her to shape up and play things by
- the book.
- * Garibaldi has been "bounced from station to station" for a long
- time before Sinclair requested him for Babylon 5. (cf:
- [23]"Survivors")
-
- Unanswered Questions
-
- The Station
-
- * Why was Babylon 5 _really_ built, and rebuilt, and rebuilt, and
- rebuilt, and... rebuilt? Sinclair's story about human stubbornness
- doesn't hold water. B5 is a monstrous project, especially for a
- society very recently decimated by war. Yet it was made _five_
- times, the fifth time from _SCRATCH_.
- * Who sabotaged B1-B3, and why? Who vanished B4, and why?
-
- The Minbari Assassin
-
- * How did the assassin get the voice and image of Sinclair in
- diplomatic dress before he poisoned Kosh? For everyone else he
- obviously impersonated, we'd seen him in close proximity to them
- earlier.
- * The assassin-as-Varner pointed a gadget at Lyta in the bazaar. It
- is widely assumed that this acquired her visual pattern for the
- changeling net, but it could have been something else.
- * Why did the assassin-as-Varner arrange to make Londo late for the
- reception? He kept Londo in a public place, making him
- unframeable.
-
- Takashima
-
- * What hold did G'Kar et al. have on her? (see [24]Analysis) Perhaps
- she _was_ on the take in that [25]corrupt mining colony, and she's
- still living on the take today.
-
- Lyta Alexander
-
- * Why was she talking to the assassin-as-Varner, as reported by
- Garibaldi and Londo? Garibaldi must have asked her at some point,
- but we never get to see this.
- * How was she involved? (see [26]Analysis) Perhaps her role was only
- passive - agree to scan Kosh if asked, report any information she
- gathers (possibly via telepathy).
-
- Sinclair
-
- * Judging by [27]the headlines of Universe Today, Babylon 5 is a
- very big deal back on Earth. Why is Sinclair, a lowly Commander,
- both in charge of the station and acting as the Earth diplomat?
- (cf: [28]"Signs and Portents")
- * What happened to Sinclair on the Line? (cf: [29]"And the Sky Full
- of Stars")
- * What _is_ the hole in his mind? Is it simply the 24 hour memory
- loss from his experience on the Line, or something more
- significant?
-
- Del Varner
-
- * According to Garibaldi's information, Del Varner would normally
- stay far away from B5. So, why was he recognized by a local tech
- (Eric)?
-
- The Vorlons
-
- * Why _did_ they request that the monitors in the docking bay be
- turned off? Kosh was walking out in public, hidden safely in his
- encounter suit.
- * What is Kosh inside that suit anyway? (cf. [30]Lost Scenes from
- Babylon 5)
- * How did the poison get through to Kosh? He must have had his hand,
- or whatever the limb was, completely outside his encounter suit.
- Perhaps that explains why the Vorlons wanted the monitors turned
- off; they didn't want anyone else to see Kosh's hand. In that
- case, why did they want Sinclair to see it? _Special Edition
- (spoiler for a pivotal revelation later in the series):_ Kosh
- greeted what he thought was Sinclair by addressing him as
- "Entil-zha Valen," indicating that he already knew Sinclair in
- some context.
- * Is there anything to that legend about someone turning to stone
- when they saw a Vorlon? Have people ever gotten into situations
- where they could _conceivably_ have seen one?
- * The Vorlons seem to be puppet thugs of the conspirators in the
- pilot, yet clearly they do some things for their own reasons. Why
- such secrecy around their technological inferiors? Why break the
- veil to send an ambassador to B5?
- * For that matter, why agree to ship Sinclair to their world? Surely
- that would mean him finding out about them. Unless they never
- intended to bring him there alive, of course.
- * Did Delenn really tell Sinclair everything the Minbari know about
- the Vorlons? Either way, how much does he know now?
-
- The Minbari
-
- * Why did they surrender at the Line? It's already pretty clear that
- Sinclair had Something to do with it. Furthermore, what was the
- real reason the Minbari were fighting the war to begin with?
-
- The Centauri
-
- * Why have they fallen so far from power? From Londo's stories it
- seems [31]they were a great Empire within his lifetime (which may
- be quite long, for all we know).
-
- Miscellaneous
-
- * Why was the access panel outside Varner's quarters busted, by the
- time Garibaldi arrived? It probably has something to do with the
- assassin [32]using Takashima's clearance to gain entry. Perhaps
- the panel keeps the only record, locally, of who's used it, and
- thus breaking it would prevent the illegal entry from being
- discovered.
- * The very presence of a changeling net aboard the station invites
- us to open the question, "Who else did we see that could have been
- that Minbari in disguise?"
- * Four major actors in the pilot left the production for various
- reasons and do not have permanent roles in the series (though Lyta
- Alexander reappeared later.) However, since [33]jms slipped
- reasons why in the B5 universe two of the the characters no longer
- appear, it is meaningful to ask:
- + Why was Lyta Alexander replaced as station telepath? Did she
- get in trouble for unauthorized mind-scanning after all, or
- was it because she's been in the mind of a Vorlon?
- + Why has Carolyn drifted out of Sinclair's life?
-
- Analysis
-
- The Plan
-
- * G'Kar et al. wanted to start a war between the EA and the Vorlons.
- The primary plan was for Kosh to be dead; Takashima's announcement
- that the Vorlons had forbidden the opening of his suit should have
- nailed that coffin shut. Framing Sinclair for the murder was
- probably also part of the primary plan (the Vorlons' request that
- the bay monitors be turned off could well have been a surprise to
- them).
- * There may have been a secondary plan to achieve the same results:
- having Lyta scan Kosh. This could have been foreseen, impromptu,
- or coincidence.
- * The assassin was Minbari, which indicates a violent faction of the
- Minbari still exists (cf: [34]"Deathwalker"). The goals of that
- group are unknown, but so are the goals of the mainstream Minbari
- government.
- * In particular, the Minbari warrior class may have had their own
- reasons for getting Sinclair sent to the Vorlon homeworld.
-
- Takashima was somehow involved
-
- * The assassin [35]used Takashima's palmed security access to gain
- entry to Varner's quarters.
- * Takashima agreed to Kyle's plan of getting Lyta to scan Kosh even
- though (by her own story) it went very much against her grain. "I
- guess I'm about due" is hardly a believable reason.
- * Takashima broke into Varner's files. 260 years from now, would
- someone be able to crack open a technology criminal's secure files
- in a matter of hours without inside information?
- * There were lots of instances when very recent information was used
- to further [36]the Plan, for all of which Takashima was in an
- ideal position to be responsible.
- + The assassin met Kosh at the right docking bay at the right
- time.
- + In general, [37]the Plan proceeded smoothly in spite of
- Kosh's 48 hour early arrival (the angriest response we saw
- from Takashima was to this very discovery).
- + Sinclair was trapped in a lift at just the right time for
- just long enough, and the record cleared.
- + Someone actually contacted the Vorlons and told them about
- the poisoning, thus acquiring the predictable response that
- opening Kosh's suit is verboten.
- + Someone leaked - very quickly - the fact that Sinclair had
- been fingered by a witness. This is what brought on the
- Vorlon cruisers.
- + G'Kar found out - again very quickly - that Kosh would
- recover from the poisoning ("There has been a complication").
-
- Lyta may have been involved
-
- * She seems to have exchanged glances with the real Del Varner as
- she walked off with Sinclair at the very beginning. The two
- probably came in on the same ship.
- * Later, she's seen talking to the assassin-as-Varner. Yet the
- latter scans her image for the changeling net without her
- knowledge [38](if that was what he was doing), so their level of
- cooperation is mixed at most.
- * The assassin, disguised as Lyta, didn't kill her in the ample
- moment they shared outside the medlab.
- * On the other hand, her conversation with G'Kar within "privacy"
- would almost certainly have been very different if they were in
- cahoots. So perhaps she was only in contact with Del Varner and/or
- the assassin.
-
- The Minbari assassin
-
- * The assassin didn't need any special clearance to enter Varner's
- quarters; he was expected. So he must have [39]used Takashima's
- clearance in order to leave a record of her entry at that time.
- Since [40]the panel was broken before this could be discovered,
- this suggests clandestine cross-purposes.
- * "There is a hole in your mind" may have been his _response_ to
- Sinclair's question, "Why did you do it?" Interesting.
- * It was not part of the plan for the Minbari to set off his
- explosives. Else why arrange to be able to get off the station?
- So, they were just to prevent his capture/interrogation.
-
- Sinclair is inexplicably trusting and friendly with Delenn
-
- * He would have sacrificed his life to kill a few more Minbari
- during the war ten years ago, yet:
- * He does not appear to be discomfited by Delenn's evasions in their
- Garden conversations.
- * When he encounters Delenn after escaping the exploding assassin,
- it would have made sense for him to confront or question her, or
- at least be suspicious. Instead, he was relaxed and jovial. Later,
- he made sure Delenn knew he didn't hold her responsible.
-
- Delenn
-
- * "The power of one mind to change the universe" likely refers to
- Sinclair. (Recall the other Minbari's [41]reference to his mind.)
- * There were two stones in the stone garden.
- * She evades most of his questions, yet volunteers two big files
- during the episode, and drops lots of other hints to him. As with
- [42]her abstention on the council, she seems subject to contrary
- forces. Keep him in the dark, yet point him toward the light.
- * She is a personally powerful representative of a very powerful
- race. Yet we don't observe her taking any active hand in the big
- picture so far.
- * In the B5 council vote to extradite Sinclair to the Vorlon
- homeworld, an abstention was equivalent to a "No" (presumably
- abstentions are interpreted to mean "None of the above" or "Take
- no action", whichever is appropriate). So, what conflict prevented
- Delenn from explicitly voting against the motion? _Special
- Edition:_ Delenn claimed she couldn't vote one way or the other
- because she didn't yet have all the information at hand, and that
- her orders where Sinclair was concerned were simply to observe,
- not interfere.
-
- Londo
-
- * He fills Garibaldi's ears with stories of the good old days of
- conquest. [43]Bygone days, unlike the way things are now. He may
- be honest, or he may be trying to allay suspicions. More likely
- the former, since Garibaldi's suspicions don't have much political
- significance.
- * A heavy drinker and compulsive gambler.
-
- G'Kar
-
- * Notice his jollity in telling Takashima his transport will submit
- to the weapons search (now that the assassin has successfully come
- aboard). True, if [44]she was in cahoots with him, that little
- exchange was for show, as was their earlier confrontation at Ops.
- He's nonetheless consistently transparent in his emotional states.
- * A schemer and warmonger.
-
- Takashima
-
- * Some of her ideas were faultlessly loyal to the EA (eg "You better
- take a recorder - the way things are going you may need a
- witness."). So, her heart's in the right place, at least.
-
- Garibaldi
-
- * Self-esteem trouble. He's ready to give up on the investigation
- after Varner's death. He's used to failure at his other jobs.
- * Garibaldi also messes up the investigation in several ways:
- + No guards around Kosh.
- + Losing sight of Varner while questioning Londo.
- + Not talking to Lyta about Varner while it's still relevant.
- + Not noticing [45]all those Takashima timing and information
- clues.
- + Lets the Commander get into a shooting fight with a superior
- foe, alone.
-
- Notes
-
- * An [46]alternate introduction was written, but not filmed.
- * Universe Today main headline: Vorlons to Make Contact
- * Universe Today sub-headline: Narn Protest of EA's B5 Heats
- * Among the messages flashing by on Lyta's identicard: ELVIS STILL
- LIVES
- * When the assassin scans his hand at Varner's door, words are
- visible on the screen. If you have a lucid pause function on your
- VCR, you too will be able to read what they say - "Laurel
- Takashima Cleared".
- * Minbari ships have short-range FTL, or cloaking, or jamming
- (Sinclair: "They came at us out of nowhere"). Basically, they can
- put themselves right where they want to be without Starfuries
- noticing them en route.
- * Cruisers can "wait" in hyperspace outside a jump gate.
- * Unscheduled uses of the jumpgates, at least during this earlier
- part of B5's history, are practically unheard of.
- * _Special Edition:_ Two plot points, Kyle's use of stims to stay
- awake and Takashima's use of the Garden to grow coffee, were both
- transferred to the characters who replaced them in the series.
- * Ed Wasser played C&C technician Guerra, and later went on to play
- Mr. Morden (first appearing in [47]"Signs and Portents.") There's
- no evidence that the two characters are related, however.
-
- jms speaks
-
- * Actually, at one point or another, just about *everyone* lied in
- the course of the pilot...including Sinclair, who lied to G'Kar,
- and of course Delenn lying to Sinclair in the Garden...and so on.
- * The one thing that I dropped fairly completely due to the delay in
- getting the series going was the Laurel thread, which has now
- mutated and become something even more interesting, actually. It's
- something that's enabled me to now build in a trap door that you
- won't see for a long time, even though it's sitting there in plain
- sight.
- * _What happened to the old characters on the pilot, not working on
- the series?_ _jms:_ On a classified mission (which I hope we will
- be able to get into at some point), Laurel has been reassigned out
- on the Rim, and Dr. Kyle is now working with the EA President on
- the issue of alien migration to Earth, a growing problem to some,
- a benefit to others.
- * Pat Tallman passed on returning to the B5 project. Our new
- telepath will be played by Andrea Thompson, with the character
- name Talia Winters. Much of the Lyta arc will now go to Talia, but
- there's now a different way of getting her into that arc.
- * What it *does* give me, which is kinda nice, is that the only two
- people to have ANY direct contact with a Vorlon have been
- transferred back to Earth. Which plays wonderfully into something
- sinister I'd kinda like to develop that the Earth Alliance is
- working on behind the scenes...
- * Actually, I think we broke [the "Return of the Jedi"] record for
- ships on-screen in the pilot; Ron was rather pleased about it at
- the time.
- * _Will there be a director's cut?_
- The odds are zero, since the first version of the B5 pilot existed
- only as a computer-graphic file edited movie. It wasn't edited on
- film, for real, until we'd pared it down. We'd have to go in and
- totally re-edit and re-score, and I doubt that's going to happen.
- * Beats me, but if you find an uncut version of B5, lemme know,
- because I'D like one.
- The problem is that, unlike a motion picture, where you produce a
- cut on film, which you then trim down, we're editing on
- computerized image files. We don't get around to finally cutting
- the film until we've made our final edits. So no complete version
- ever existed on film. The most that could be done is get those 25
- minutes and *build* a new version with that footage...which would
- require additional scoring, editing, and other stuff.
- * The computerized cut of the pilot is now dumped out of memory, and
- those portions only exist on a few VHS tapes of marginal quality.
- Also, the footage in computer file form is *very* low grade, like
- a poorly scanned gif file, very low resolution. It would be
- useless on a laser disk.
- * I'm certainly not showing disdain for the missing material; I'm
- just saying it ain't *there*. Now, if B5 turns out to be a
- megahit, there may be money set aside to re-edit the pilot some
- years down the road, but I'm not currently counting on it. My
- chief concern now has to be the series.
- * There was a reason we gave Londo the pilot opening monologue, yes.
- And another reason why we're giving Sinclair the opening monologue
- over credits of the first season, though with some differences.
- We're also considering rotating any such opening between other
- cast members as well, but *always* in the past-tense, "Babylon 5
- *was*...." We're dealing in future history here, and we plan to do
- some interesting things with that aspect.
- * Yeah, Londo seems like the *least* likely person to do the opening
- narration for a show like this; you don't even see him for nearly
- two full acts, and it's the kind of thing you'd expect the
- Commander to do.
- But there are reasons for everything....
- * Oh, yeah, the "mission of destruction" thing ONLY relates to this
- particular episode, the pilot. It'll be gone from regular
- episodes.
- * "Mankind" was being used by Londo specifically in relation to
- humans, not sentient aliens including his own race. Earthers.
- Which was one reason (of many) I wanted his character to be the
- narrator, someone looking in from the outside.
- As for the Third Age, it's -- oh, darn, look at the time, have to
- go....
- * _The alien section looked like a zoo!_
- First, we decided that wasn't a right look for the alien sector,
- and that's the corridor we blew up at the end. But the reason it
- was designed that way is important. Your reaction -- don't the
- aliens have any privacy? -- is a very human, and specifically a
- very *western* point of view. Our feeling at the time was, why
- should alien quarters look at all like human quarters? Shouldn't
- they have a different perspective than typical Western-style
- hotels? (In some degree, the quaters were patterned after Japanese
- mini-hotels, where you get basically a slightly larger coffin-like
- setup, which you crawl into like a torpedo tube, with a window at
- one end, which has a curtain, a TV over your head, and so on. What
- we discovered is that many people ask for more alien aliens, but
- when we delivered on that, were asked why these things weren't
- more like what we expect, why aren't they like human quarters?
- It's really a losing battle.)
- The other point on this is that if you look closely, there are
- back areas accessible to residents, which can in particular be
- seen in the insectoid/antennae'd character's quarters. The idea
- was that it would be sort of a front porch, where for lack of much
- else to do, you'd sit out on the porch, watching the passing
- parade.
- But the reaction was less than favorable, we had to keep
- explaining that this proceeds from an alien POV, and so our alien
- quarters are more like human quarters now, minus the alternate
- atmosphere stuff. I'm still not quite sure what to think of this.
- * Actually, it's Kosh's ship that comes out of the jump gate
- backward, engines forward to assist with deceleration. The
- fighters don't want to be slow-moving targets, so it stands to
- reason they wouldn't be configured for rapid deceleration. They
- want to get into position as fast as possible.
- * Kosh's ship had to decelerate in order to dock inside the station.
- This is a reality of spaceflight...you must both accelerate and
- decelerate. Both take time. Especially if you're going to dock.
- Plus there was time involved in setting up the docking procedure,
- turning over control to Babylon Control, lining up vectors and so
- on.
- The fighters didn't have to worry about any of this. They came
- shooting through the gate and barely slowed at all, speeding over
- to B5 and taking up position.
- There have now been several situations in which we've been accused
- of "mistakes" that have, instead, simply been things done
- scientifically accurately. I have to say (and this isn't directed
- at you, just more of a general statement), we're not going to hand
- everyone everything on a silver platter, serving up pablum...the
- nature of a *science fiction* series is that you should THINK
- about things. The acceleration/deceleration thing is one example;
- some thought about why this would be would have led to the answer.
- And, as evidenced by other messages here, others have taken the
- time to look at it from that perspective. Which I think is great.
- * Re: the skin tab/Kosh's hand/encounter suit question...one of the
- reasons I can't wait for the series to get on the air is so that
- we can make one thing clear, once and for all: it is NOT an error,
- not a plot hole, it is a plot POINT. It is a question that our
- *characters* will be asking each other. How can this be? This will
- come up more than once, starting with "The Parliament of Dreams"
- episode.
- * As for the Vorlon handshake (so to speak)...this will be dealt
- with in the series. You have to remember that the original plan
- was to air the pilot and go *immediately* into series, where we'd
- bring up some of these questions. There simply wasn't room to deal
- with EVERYTHING in that short pilot...and where we DID try and
- cover everything, we got gigged for being expositional.
- Now we have to re-establish a few things since there's been a gap
- in time...but the poison incident will be raised in "The
- Parliament of Dreams" script to start with, and move on from
- there.
- * The Senator of the pilot, who was back on Earth, is someone who
- has in past been someone that Sinclair has come to for backing on
- things; he's the equivilent of someone on the Armed Services
- Committee, here as one of those civilian Senators overseeing
- Earthforce. He would not be in any position to just come in and
- take over, any more than a Senator visiting a U.S. army base would
- be in a position to take over the base if there were a problem
- with the ranking officer. But he might be able to bring some force
- to bear back in Washington, which might double-back to be of some
- use.
- There are civilian branches and military branches, as with today,
- in which the civilian branch oversees the military, but in very
- formalized ways.
- * In the script, the privacy mode involved going from a standard
- looking open booth to what suddenly looked like a flat black cube,
- which you could neither hear nor see through. The director decided
- to try the lights. It didn't work. We're dropping it.
- * You're right; the events of the Line are something that Sinclair
- doesn't much like talking about, and has been advised *against*
- talking about. When the Minbari surrendered, Earth put the best
- possible spin on it, tried to make the survivors of the Line look
- like heroes, but there's a general sense of what happened. And a
- great deal of dismay over it.
- * Your assumption is correct; the assassin's weapon was a very small
- one...limited power, and a charge-up sequence that becomes longer
- the more it's used. If the Minbari had shot Lyta, it would've
- taken too long for the gun to power-up again for him to shoot
- Sinclair...and he would've been captured. We slightly expanded the
- power-up whine for each shot after the first one. You'll note that
- the first shot, the one that takes out Varner, is almost
- immediate. Points and fires. Gradually it takes longer, and
- finally the gun runs out altogether (which is why, though we
- probably should've been clearer in showing this, the assassin
- finally went hand-to-hand with Sinclair...the gun was never meant
- as an assault weapon, more as a derringer, with a few shots in
- case he got into trouble).
- * As for Sinclair going after the Minbari assassin...there were
- several reasons for this. First, this was personal for him; if the
- guy *wasn't* caught, he would be blamed for the death and sent to
- the Vorlon homeworld. He had something very much at stake. Second,
- if you have somebody with shapeshifting technology on board, the
- LAST thing you want is to send in a large group. The tracking of
- the energy web used for the holographic effect was good, but only
- to a certain point. It could say "He's ten feet away," but if
- there's 5 guys within that range, it'll take you just long enough
- to react for the assassin to wipe out the bunch of you before you
- figure out which one he is. But if there's only *two* of you, and
- you hear the shifter is within 10 feet, you know *exactly* who it
- is and can react accordingly. It seemed logical. Also, you'd want
- someone there who you knew VERY well, in case there were a
- replacement...because while someone could emulate a face, they
- can't replicate memories, and Sinclair or Garibaldi could quickly
- figure out if the other was an imposter.
- Yes, I probably could've stopped to explain this...but I figured
- it was readily apparent, and there was already enough exposition
- in the pilot to stun a horse.
- * "If JMS had not mentioned the hole in Sinclair's mind, what would
- have been the reason for the assassin to try and kill Sinclair?"
- Hello...did you see the same movie that I wrote? The assassin was
- not there to kill Sinclair. He was there to kill Kosh. He tried to
- kill Kosh. He tried to stay AWAY from Sinclair, did everything in
- his power to avoid Sinclair, ran from Sinclair, and only finally
- encountered Sinclair when Sinclair came after HIM. Then it was
- nominal self-defense.
- Had the "hole in the mind" reference never been made, it would
- have been clear -- at least clear to every other carbon-based
- lifeform who saw the movie -- that the assassin 1) came to try and
- kill Kosh, 2) in the hope of disrupting the purpose of Babylon 5,
- with the added benefit of 3) if he failed in his mission, setting
- up Sinclair to take the rap for his actions. At the very end,
- rather than be captured and interrogated, the Minbari assassin
- killed himself with an implanted bomb. His comment to Sinclair at
- that moment was more of an "Up yours" comment, designed to shatter
- Sinclair with the knowledge that he knew something Sinclair
- didn't.
- You keep saying he was there to kill Sinclair. He wasn't. He
- didn't. He didn't try. It makes it hard to have this conversation
- with you if your comments don't touch reality at any two
- contiguous points.
- * I never said that the [assassin's] intent wasn't to set up
- Sinclair; I only said that he wasn't there to *kill* Sinclair.
- That aspect of making Sinclair the patsy was very much part of the
- thing.
- * What Kyle suggests...is closer to the truth than might otherwise
- be suspected. We had filmed a scene -- which never made it into
- the finished pilot -- where Garibaldi, growing suspicious of his
- boss -- confronts Sinclair in the core shuttle. One of the alibis
- he checked out doesn't hold up: Sinclair's. The transport tube
- computer records don't indicate any delay. Sinclair suggests that
- there's either a problem with the system, or it's been
- deliberately altered to remove that information.
- It was, of course, the latter.
- Now...stop and think about this for a moment.
- The Observation Dome has equipment to detect approaching ships.
- The spider transport approaches without being noticed. The surface
- of the station would likely have sensors to detect something
- attaching itself to the hull. Somehow these were over-ridden. The
- only time that anyone notices, up in the Dome, is later, when
- Laurel isn't there, interestingly enough. Someone deliberately
- programmed the transport tube to delay Sinclair. The assassin
- would have to know this in advance.
- We saw Londo with the assassin. We also saw Garibaldi, Lyta, Dr.
- Kyle and -- later -- Sinclair with the assassin, each relating to
- him in different ways. Who was the one person we never saw with
- the assassin, whose reactions might have told us something? Who
- was the one put in charge of the station when Sinclair was pulled
- out of circulation?
- Laurel.
- We had some...interesting things in mind for this character. Now
- that another character has come in, some things will be modified,
- but other elements will come in to replace them.
- * I kept Tamlyn in the dark about a lot of this. She even mentioned
- this in an interview she gave somewhere. I didn't want that
- knowledge to make her play the role anything other than it should
- have been played: as if absolutely innocent and sincere. Sometimes
- you just gotta be sneaky....
- * There was an element of saving her own life...and another aspect
- of all this is that she may not have been acting entirely of her
- own free will during the first half. There may be some influences
- that will emerge later.
- * Laurel was not being altogether honest, and was helping to cover
- the activities of the person who was doing the assassination
- attempt.
- (This, again, is a thread that would've come clear had we kept
- that character; nobody was supposed to figure it out going in, but
- rather put it together over time.)
- * This has already been answered; had the character stayed with the
- show, gradually it would have emerged that the assassin had access
- to Laurel's codes because she provided them to him.
- * This isn't so much a spoiler, since it concerns an abandoned story
- like (or, let me rephrase that...a modified story line). I mention
- this here since I just mentioned it elsewhere, and might as well
- do so here.
- Think hard about the pilot for a moment. Whose job is it in the
- observation dome to monitor incoming ships...but apparently let
- the spider transport slip through unnoticed? The station's skin
- should have (and likely did) detect something clamping onto
- it...but apparently someone over-rode that for the spider
- transport. Someone had to PRE-arrange access via the computer for
- the assassin, since it easily palms its way into Varner's
- quarters. (And what is the name of the person the access computer
- recognizes?) Someone had to arrange for the transport tube to be
- delayed, and then *erase* that information from the computer
- system. Someone who knew *exactly* when the Vorlon ship would be
- docking. We see, at various times, the following people
- interacting with the assassin, in different capacities: Garibaldi,
- Lyta, G'Kar, Londo, Dr. Kyle, and of course, much later, Sinclair.
- Who did we never see in direct contact with the assassin? Who was
- put in charge of the station after Sinclair was removed?
- Do you notice a pattern developing? Do certain things here point
- to a certain individual...who may, or may not, have been acting on
- her own volition?
- And yes, this is something we planned to explore, though it wasn't
- on a *direct* line to the arc of our story. It definitely impinged
- upon it, of course. This has been modified due to the change in
- the character of the Lieutenant Commander, and this now won't go
- where it was going to go...but we still have some very interesting
- plans for our secondary character, not at all along the Takashima
- lines (which is why this isn't a spoiler), but certainly
- intriguing on their own terms.
- * Now, I didn't say she was a villain. I said that certain things
- may or may not have been done of her own free will, her own
- volition. What this means...we'll see.
- * The scruffy person in the Varner files was the same homeless
- person who we just happen to see sitting right outside Varner's
- quarters, watching as he moves along. This was played by Ron
- Thornton, because we wouldn't be seeing him in a major role, we'd
- just have to know someone was there.
- Again, this ties into a specific story line that has been modified
- with a) the departure of Laurel, and b) the length of time since
- the pilot aired. Who was the homeless man really? It's no longer
- an issue, but it was related, yes.
- But only in a very small way.
- * "Would it be fair to compare the original ST pilot to B5's pilot?"
- No, it would not. Because there is nothing in common with them
- other than that they are both SF. You can compare TNG to DS9 to
- TOS, because they're in the same universe.
- Would it be fair to compare Cagney and Lacey with NYPD Blue? After
- all, they're both cop shows. But in fact, they're not the same
- kind of cop show; they share the same genre, but there ends the
- overlap. The two shows are distinct, separate entities, just as
- Harlan Ellison's work is distinct from Bill Gibson's work, even
- though both incorporate elements of SF.
- The ST pilot existed in its own universe, and was primarily an
- action show. The B5 pilot exists in its own universe, and
- primarily sets the stage for a political mystery/intrigue series.
- It wasn't meant to serve the same functions as the ST pilot.
- It seems to me that many SF fans continue to compare everything to
- ST because that's their primary frame of reference, and they
- continue to apply it whether it's relevant or not. My
- suggestion...get another frame of reference.
- * Once again, there's a lot of false analogies here in any attempt
- to compare pilots, as in this TOS and B5 thread. You're talking
- about transporters and other *technological* items. And you're
- right, they didn't explain their tech. Neither did we, with the
- exception of the changling net in the pilot, and only because it
- was a plot point. We didn't explain how the jump gates worked, how
- centrifugal force kept the gravity in place, or any of that.
- The difference isn't *technology*, it's *context*. Once again, B5
- is in many ways a *political* story. Consequently it's necessary
- to explain who the players are in some detail, something that ST
- didn't have to worry about. If you're reading a political thriller
- about the U.S. and the (now defunct) USSR, it helps a lot to know
- who's who.
- Also, when ST started, there wasn't really a clear agenda, a place
- that they were going, story-wise. B5 is a novel for TV. And that
- puts on some pressures and problems other shows don't have. Others
- may not see it that way, but it isn't their call. It's my call,
- and I stand behind it, even while seeing some of the flaws in the
- pilot.
- All of which again points up the...well, *pointlessness* of trying
- to compare the two shows. Compare MASH to ALL IN THE FAMILY.
- They're both comedies. The similarity ends there. Everything
- doesn't have to be comparable or dissectable (to coin a term) in
- reference to ST.
- * Let me just, against my better wishes, dive in here for just a
- moment moment on this discussion. Especially as it relates to your
- slam against the characters and characterizations on B5.
- People keep comparing the B5 pilot to either the DS9 pilot or the
- TNG pilot, often favorably, sometimes less so, but the reality is
- that the B5 pilot had to suffer under a burden shared by neither
- of those two other shows: establishing a whole new universe,
- especially given that the B5 story is more of a political/action
- piece in which you really have to understand where everyone's
- coming from. By the time they got around to making the TNG pilot,
- just about everyone knew what a Klingon was, what the Federation
- was, what phasers and teleporters were...this was all established
- cultural coin. When Jay Leno would make jokes about Klingons on
- the Carson show (which it still was back then), he didn't have to
- explain it to anyone. There's 25 years of shared history informing
- the story. Same in DS9. Thus in neither pilot was that much really
- or substantially *new* introduced, they didn't have to create the
- universe from scratch.
- But that was exactly what was necessary for B5; the relationship
- between the five various governments is important to understanding
- the characters, and the show...as is the recent Earth/Minbari war,
- which isn't just backstory, it's something that will grow to play
- an increasingly important role in the series as time passes. So
- there had to be time spent establishing each of those
- relationships, the political backstory, the minor players. AND we
- had to tell a fairly complex story within that framework.
- After you allocate the history of the B5 universe, for the
- establishment of the plot, for the establishment of who our
- various players are in relation to one another, you've got -- at
- MOST -- 3 minutes left per character out of a 92 minute movie. You
- can't establish a lot of character in 3 minutes.
- Which is what strikes me as unfair in this conversation. You're
- trying to compare 25-30 years of ST in its various incarnations,
- with its delivery of characterization over A WEEKLY SERIES to a
- single introductory TV movie of 92 minutes.
- Plus, the pilot was never meant to be a stand-alone; it was meant
- to get all the pieces moving, introduce us, and follow up the very
- next week with *character-oriented stories*. That was always the
- plan. Had I known that it would be aired by itself, with a long
- delay until the series, I would have totally restructured it to
- make it more of a character story, and held off on the heavy
- background stuff until later. And in addition to THAT, I again
- point to the 25 minutes of good character stuff that ended up on
- the cutting room floor because we were over, some of which has
- been shown to people at conventions. Some of them also felt as you
- do. They saw the extra footage. And their reaction: "Oh, so THAT'S
- who that is!" And their opinions of the characters did a fast
- turnaround.
- So what I'm saying here, fundamentally, is this: let's compare
- apples to apples and not apples to oranges. You can't compare B5
- to either TNG's or DS9's pilots, because they operated in
- pre-existing universes. You can't compare the level of character
- you get in a series to a TV movie, because one is 92 minutes long,
- the other is 22 hours long times the number of seasons run.
- If you want to compare things, and that's certainly your right,
- may I suggest a moratorium on this entire discussion until the
- series comes on the air? That will allow you to compare series to
- series, which seems just a tad fairer to me. Any seconds?
- * Re: the pilot...I've hashed and rehashed this, and the bottom line
- is to see what we do in the series and judge the series by the
- series. The DS9 pilot had to explain very little that wasn't
- specific to the plotline: you already knew what a Bajorran was,
- what a wormhole was, what the Federation was, what the Cardassians
- were, on and on and on. Because they didn't have to introduce any
- of that, they could spend time on other character moments. We
- didn't have that luxury in the pilot. We had to do what, in
- essence, ST has done over 25 years: establish our universe,
- painting it in broad strokes, as broad're done with that aspect.
- And now we can do our character-based stories. Which is exactly
- what we're doing. Each of the characters is being solidly rounded
- out in the series, showing multiple sides to each character. All I
- can say is that I think you'll like what we're doing.
- * I wasn't gonna jump in here, but I have to at least answer your
- question: "Where's the rest?" The rest is in the series. You
- haven't seen the series yet. You're comparing it against 7 years
- of TNG; rather consider if the ONLY thing you had EVER seen was
- "Farpoint." We had a massive burden: to build an entire universe,
- based around a political drama, in basically 90+ minutes not
- counting commercials. That meant that more time went into
- exposition and backstory than I'd like.
- In my view, we've now done that, we've laid the foundation, and
- now we can sit back and tell stories...*character* based stories.
- That's what I'm best at, and that's what the writers I've chosen
- to use on the series are best at.
- The "rest" you ask for is there..in the series. But I'm not asking
- you to take my word for it. Check out the show. Maybe you'll like
- it. And maybe you won't. That's showbiz. You don' like it, you
- don' gotta watch. But I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
- The miracle of the B5 pilot is that it got done at *all*, given
- the odds against us, given a team working together for the first
- time, without the benefit of an established universe, and actors
- who had never worked together before who had zero chance for
- rehearsal. I'm not apologizing for the pilot; it had flaws, but
- I'm very proud of a lot that's in there.
- Do the math. You have a little over 90 minutes. You have to
- introduce 9 major characters in the course of that story. That
- gives you ten minutes of attention for any one character. Now
- you've also got to tell the backstory. You've got to establish who
- the various players are. You've got to put the present-tense story
- into motion, with beginning, middle and end. And now you're left
- with maybe 3-4 minutes of "quality time" with any one character.
- If we only had 2 or 3 characters, then it's a very different
- story...but that isn't the universe we have to work in.
- Now that the series is going ahead, we can spend an entire
- *episode* dealing primarily with one character. And do the same
- for others. We have the time. And that's what's important.
- One last observation: you repeat the notion that it's all a
- "reaction" to TNG. The treatment and screenply were complete and
- making the rounds in Hollywood in Spring 1987. The basic material
- was written in 1986, at a point in some cases when TNG hadn't even
- *aired* yet. So it could hardly have been written as a reaction to
- something that hadn't been seen yet, could it?
- * You repeat several times your insistence that I study TNG to see
- what they did right, use them as a roadmap.
- Sorry. I have no desire to study TNG. I'm telling a different sort
- of story, in a different universe. What TNG does right or wrong is
- more or less irrelevant to that universe. That's like saying that
- (just to pick two names at random) Orson Scott Card should study
- Poul Anderson as a roadmap in his own novels. This is utter
- nonsense.
- A while ago, I got an email from someone who didn't like the pilot
- (and it may have been on internet, btw) mainly because of the
- communication devices. He said, and I'm paraphrasing from memory,
- that every time someone used the wrist-links, it broke the
- illusion for him, since we all KNOW that by then the REALITY is
- that we'll be using the chest communicators that TNG uses, and I
- should be sure to include that in future episodes as a
- capitulation to that reality.
- Sorry...TNG is a roadmap for TNG. Not B5.
- * The VOYAGER pilot is *$23 million*?!
- The BABYLON 5 pilot was $3.5 million.
- With $23 million, we could make 1.3 SEASONS of B5. And have a bit
- of money left over for a wrap party.
- Amazing....
- * My feeling here is, don't worry about the show, regarding your
- overcoming on the pilot. Pilots are good, bad or uneven. What
- matters in the analysis is the series. You can have a great pilot
- and a disappointing series. And vice-versa. The series will air.
- If it's good, people will watch, whatever they may have thought
- about the pilot. If it ain't good, people won't watch, and
- deservedly so. In other words, the ball's in our court now.
- * "The pilot wasn't good. Face it!"
- I'm at the head of the line to point out flaws in the pilot. Flaws
- that we've dealt with. But a) it still holds up, and b) you are
- trying to make your opinion into *fact*. It ain't. An awful lot of
- people liked the pilot a lot. To them, it was good. Maybe to you,
- it wasn't, but that's only true for you. That you may think
- persimmon yoghurt is the best flavor ever created doesn't make it
- true for everybody else. Just a moment for perspective here....
- * I was at the Emmys tonight for the presentation of the B5 Emmy,
- and in the visual efx area, more than one shoe can get an Emmy. So
- we got one, DS9's pilot got one, and Lucas' Young Indy show got
- one. (We sat at the next table to Lucas and his bunch, in fact,
- and noted that he watched the B5 footage with considerable
- interest.) So when you come right down to it, here we were, our
- first shot out of the box, and we ended up on the same level of
- appreciation as Trek and Lucas. Not too dusty....
- * And y'know...it's absolutely in keeping with the Straczynski luck,
- and the history of this show, that the year B5 wins an Emmy is the
- first year that they DON'T do the recap of last night's technical
- awards. Ah, well....
- * I was asked to keep quite about this until April 23rd, which is
- when the announcement is to be made at the Nebulas, but now that
- it's indeed the 23rd, and that announcement either has been made
- or is being made now, I'm pleased to report that the Babylon 5
- pilot movie, "The Gathering," has been nominated for a Hugo.
- Since we're up against Jurassic Park, I think I pretty much know
- where THAT award is going...but it is a tremendous honor and
- everyone involved with the show is very pleased by it.
- * Thanks. As it turns out -- I today saw the list of nominees -- B5
- is the ONLY TV-SF nominated for the Hugo. The rest are all feature
- films (JP, Addams Family, Nightmare Before Christmas, Groundhog
- Day).
- * Eric...nothing would gladden my heart more than if the B5 pilot
- won a Hugo (except the series winning a Hugo, which I think is a
- bit likelier, maybe). It is the highest compliment that can be
- paid by the SF community of readers and viewers. But one must be
- realistic, and I just don't see it outpulling Jurassic Park in the
- ballotting. JP is the proverbial 500 pound gorilla. Or the 50,000
- pound T-Rex.
- While we are only small mammals....granted we're mammals with guns
- and an attitude, of course....
- * _JP won the Hugo_
- Yep, that's pretty much what I said would happen. And in my view,
- JP probably deserves the Hugo more than "The Gathering." Next
- year, now, THAT is an open question....
- * Nope, I was nowhere in the pilot, not under makeup, not nohow, not
- no-way. Nor will I do so in the series. That just ain't my thing.
- * Side-note...Londo baring his teeth had nothing to do with Delenn's
- vote in "The Gathering." That was gas.
- * Both Christy Marx and Kathryn [Drennan, JMS's wife] can both be
- *briefly* seen in the pilot movie as BG in the casino...and in the
- main titles, Kathryn's back is to the camera in the wide downshot,
- though you really can't make it out well in that one. Also in the
- montage in the pilot movie, seated at the bar under narration, the
- fellow with the beard, is art director John Iacovelli.
- * The most entertaining thing for a writer is creating a character;
- the second most entertaining thing is killing off a character.
- Believe me, as you'll see in the Fight To The Death in the pilot,
- I have no problem dropping a body. And as far as I'm concerned,
- only 2 or 3 characters in this series are indispensible...the rest
- are open to all kinds of interesting fates.
- * The amount of contact required varies according to the telepath's
- strength. Lyta at P5 needs a little help. A P10 could nail you
- from across the room.
- * The background on that business meeting is similar to all such
- uses of telepaths: both sides agree to the presence of a telepath
- to monitor the negotiations. If one were to demur, the deal would
- be off because the person clearly has something to hide. Which is
- why there is a good market for various kinds of shields that don't
- LOOK like or feel like shields unless the telepath knows what to
- look for. You can also just try and hide it and hope that the
- telepath isn't looking too deep or isn't really paying attention,
- which is what that guy was doing. (May have been reciting the
- "tensor" rhyme trying to keep his brain occupied.)
- * The encounter suit opened at the touch of a button (you can hear
- him press the button with a *click*). Only for Lyta did it open on
- its own.
- * Here's the one thing that amazes me, speaking of seeing the pilot
- for the gadzillionth time...there is one great big huge gaping
- visual anomaly/inconsistency in the pilot that so far no one has
- noticed. It's so massive that when I first saw it, I just about
- fell out of my chair. But the director said "No one's ever gonna
- see it, no one's ever gonna notice it, *trust* me on this." I was
- absolutely convinced that he was wrong. Apparently he was right.
- At some point in the future I'll tell you what it is...and when
- you see it, you're going to wonder how the hell you avoided seeing
- it before, it's *that* big. But not for a while yet. (And the few
- smaller things mentioned here ...ain't it.)
- * For the record...thtch has something to do with the second trial
- scene.
- * It's the overhead shot of the courtroom; we didn't have a second
- establisher, so we used the one of Kyle even though Sinclair was
- on the stand.
- * Actually, "beep-beep" was always there in the script; it was the
- part where we learn AFTER that that Sinclair only told G'Kar about
- the homing beacon, didn't really plant it, that came up during
- filming.
- * Here's one little extra for you: only one person aboard Babylon 5
- has any idea of what a Vorlon is, inside that suit, and only one
- race has had dealings with the Vorlons before. Watch the reception
- at the end, and see if you notice anything unusual in the way the
- various people respond to Kosh.
- * How much of the basic "saga" is in the pilot? Some...bits and
- pieces. The problem, always, is that we have a whole new universe
- to establish, with all the backstory that goes with that. As it
- is, it's fairly "information intensive," as one person put it. We
- find out about the Earth/Minbari war, the curious surrender,
- Sinclair's past, the missing 24 hours, the relations between the
- various governments and their own personal agendas, and a hint of
- what's to come. This while establishing the backstory of all our
- characters, and telling a story in present time (for them).
- I think you will find indications of what we've talked about for
- the series present in the pilot. Which is why it bears watching
- more than once; you'll pick up more information and more of a
- sense of the world the more closely you inspect it. (We tried to
- come up with a pilot that actually BENEFITS from close inspection,
- rather than falling apart if you look at it too closely.)
- * Actually, the funny thing is, I don't much mind if people who
- hadn't seen the pilot don't catch the rebroadcast. What we're
- doing now is SO radically better than the pilot that I almost
- can't watch it now.
- * Agreed, the pilot movie was much darker...unfortunately, it was SO
- dark that we actually veered into what're called "illegal blacks,"
- that is, the picture is too dark, and this causes problems with
- foreign distributers. (This is what they tell me, and through an
- act of faith I have come to believe them.) We're still about a
- half-stop or full stop below what's typical. Be advised that many
- stations, when they broadcast the show, pump up the brightness a
- *lot*. They just dial it up.
- * Laurel was not standing upside down in relation to the station's
- rotation. The docking bay, at the center of the station, for
- zero-g, was above her head, her feet pointed down, toward the rim
- of the station, in correct orientation. Just FYI.
- * We'd originally planned to go for a more vague sexuality for
- Delenn; a male physically and primarily in the voice, on top of
- the natural female movements one gets from an actress. In
- post-production, however, we couldn't get the voice to sound as
- good and male as we'd wanted. In addition, a couple of convention
- showing of a rough cut saw people responding VERY strongly to her
- voice as it was, so we finally decided to let it stand and change
- the one reference to "he" to "she," and that was the end of it.
- * Delenn was originally going to be a fairly sexually-ambiguous
- character...a male character, played by a female, with a computer
- altered voice...but we couldn't make the alteration sound good
- enough to satisfy us, so we left her a her.
- * Kosh will "speak" in the series. After a fashion. But not as you
- might expect. Suffice to say we've seen the final effect now in
- the mix of finished episodes, and it's *real* creepy.
- * Your memory is faulty. It was stated in the pilot that Kosh's ship
- took roughly 4 days to travel via hyperspace to B5. That's from
- Vorlon space; we don't know where the fleet was when it entered
- jump. Because such ships can make their own jump points, it
- could've been a lot closer to B5 space when it went in. (And was.)
- * Okay, okay, 8 days not four...I knew it weren't no 3 weeks,
- though. The one thing to remember is that travel in hyperspace
- isn't the main problem; the real problem, time-wise, is the period
- required to get from a world to its nearest jump gate. It might
- take 4 days to travel from World X to the gate, and 1 day to B5 in
- hyperspace...while another race, 1 day from the gate, and 1 day to
- B5 in hyperspace, only has 2 travel days.
- * As I've noted elsewhere, G'Kar made mention of the need for
- genetic alteration/modification during the scene with Lyta. Beyond
- that, though, G'Kar's personal perversion is sex with humans,
- which no one else seems quite able to understand....
- * Garibaldi was named after the famous Italian war hero of the same
- name.
-
- Special Edition (spoilers for future episodes)
-
- * "Now that TNT has set a definite date for airing the series, have
- they given you a 'go' for re-editing The Gathering? If so, how
- much will you be able to put back (the character stuff with
- Sinclair?) Might you even re-score it with Christopher Franke
- music?"
- We're still negotiating that out, but in hopes of this going,
- we've begun redigitizing the footage so we can get into the main
- scenes we want to work on.
- * We're also going to update the CGI, if we can do this.
- * _Why were any important scenes cut?_
- The fault was mine, not the suits.
- Prior to exec producing B5, I had never edited a show before,
- never had final cut before...had never even been IN an editing
- room for more than 5 minutes before. So here I am, given the
- director's cut...and I know it's real slow, but I haven't done
- this before, so I don't trust my instincts. I let it go with very
- minimal changes.
- And I've been kicking myself ever since. I should've followed my
- instincts, but instead I deferred to the director's cut.
- It's a mistake I have never made since.
- Even so, that first cut just gnaws at me...I *know* I can make it
- better, stronger, even if only a bit in a few places, that would
- help salve my soul over this thing.
- * _Would you use new music by Christopher Franke?_
- Yeah, Chris would re-score it.
- * _Is the reedit a dead deal?_
- No, the funding was approved, and we're working on it now.
- * Yep, we're working on the re-edit now. There's still just so much
- that can be done, we can't shoot new material...but it's still
- going to be tighter, with additional material, new music, and new
- CGI in many places.
- * Basically, it's new scenes with the characters, new CGI in many
- places, and new music.
- * _What was wrong with the original?_
- I was new at exec producing, and deferred 'way too much to the
- director, whose cut was, frankly, slow and left all the best
- character moments on the cutting room floor. We lost 14 minutes of
- good stuff, which is now going to go back and we're going to
- tighten and make it better, the way we do our cuts on all the
- episodes.
- * "Will the 14 minutes being restored to "The Gathering" include
- Marianne Robertson's "hostage" scene?"
- Yup.
- * Today, John Copeland and I finished re-editing "The Gathering,"
- the B5 pilot movie. While there were some areas we couldn't get
- into because of the complexity in redoing the mix, virtually every
- scene got tinkered with to one degree or another, and most
- important, the roughly 14 minutes of footage left out of the
- original version is now back in. The whole thing is tighter and
- faster, and there's more recent CGI, we'll have Chris Franke
- re-score it, and it's just in general a lot better. (Some parts of
- it even make more sense now.)
- One additional change: because of the desire on PTEN's part to
- have as many commercial breaks as possible, the 6-act script was
- jerry-rigged and broken down into 9 acts. One side-effect of this
- is that 9 acts wears on you, and wears you out, more than the
- standard 6. You start to get a feeling of being led up to things
- too often, and there isn't time to dwell on the acts you're in. I
- was finally able, with this re-edit, to move scenes back around
- again to what I originally wanted in a 6-act structure (you'll see
- a number of scenes juxtaposed from their original order).
- Anyway...the TNT Special Edition is much improved over the
- original.
- * _What will be cut to make room for the new footage?_
- Not much, just little snippets of things...the show was *very*
- slow paced, and once you pick up the pacing within scenes, whole
- vast tracts of time appear.
- * you spare a few words on how you went about the re-edit? Did you
- start with what you wanted to get back in, or trying to find out
- how much time you could recapture?"
- The first thing I did was to sit down with the editor assigned to
- the re-edit, Suzie, and go through the original script for the
- pilot. My first words to her were, "Put everyhing in that ain't
- there." To that end, she redigitized all of the footage from
- missing scenes, and had available all of the available footage of
- the other scenes for digitizing as we went.
- Note that I said all the *available* footage. The folks at WB who
- held custody of the film (we don't keep that stuff, we're not
- allowed to by contract, they store film, negative, prints, all
- that stuff) put the negative canisters into storage...and at one
- point in the intervening 4 years, there had been water damage, and
- on another occasion, apparently rats had gotten in there and
- chewed some of the original negatives (and in most cases there
- weren't positive struck of those takes).
- Take your reaction to the foregoing, put it in front of the Hubble
- telescope, and you will have mine.
- However, we lucked out...where there were some takes that are
- gone, we were able to find enough others (masters instead of a
- two-shot, or a close-up instead of an over-shoulder) and B-camera
- footage that we were able to build solid versions of those scenes.
- We didn't always have as many choices as we're used to but there
- was more than enough for our needs.
- Suzi then dumped all of the newly edited additional scenes into
- the existing pilot, and that gave us the new running time (we
- added about 14 minutes). So at that point, John and I went in and
- worked to slice down the previously existing scenes, doing what we
- do with B5: tightening every loose screw and nut as much as we
- could. One or two incidental, unimportant scenes in the original
- pilot went out, because they added nothing and shouldn't have been
- there in the first place (a total of about 3 minutes). The
- remaining 11 minutes we made up in just tightening scenes, which
- were *so* lax and slow that it's amazing at times.
- In some cases, we substituted one take for another in the
- pre-existing pilot when we had a better reaction, or played scenes
- closer for more intimacy. (One of the problems with the pilot is
- that it kept the audience far from the action, and the actors far
- from each other, something we changed in our shooting style for
- the series...here we tried to change it when we could and when we
- had the coverage.)
- Tiny example: when Kosh falls down upon arriving at B5, that
- sequence ends with a big honking wide downshot of a nearly empty
- docking bay, with Kosh far from us, and Sinclair looking down
- (away from us) when he says "Damn." Then we go from that to a wide
- shot of the medlab. Same framing. So I had Suzie look for a take
- where we panned up from a close on Kosh, to a close on Sinclair
- for that line, so it's more immediate, more personal, and the jump
- to the next scene doesn't feel like the one before.
- See, directors like to stay wide in their cuts, so you can see
- their nifty camera angles, see the set, the lighting...but after
- you've established where we are, most people want to see the
- *characters*, not the walls or how the camera moves. That was what
- we tried to fix where we could.
- We couldn't totally re-edit the pilot, because we hadn't been
- given the money for something that intensive (the main expense is
- in opening up all the audio stems in the sound mix). But all the
- stuff I wanted back in, is now in, and the scenes I wanted to fix,
- I fixed.
- I also got the thing back to its original format. All TV movies
- are 6 acts. Because PTEN wanted more commercial breaks, I had to
- re-jig the structure of the thing into 9 acts, which meant moving
- some scenes into places where they weren't as effective, and
- frankly after 9 acts you just get tired of watching. Here I was
- able to move scenes around and get back to the original 6 act
- structure that was intended for the thing, and that alone makes a
- huge difference in how the film feels.
- One of the biggest changes is the one least immediately apparent.
- After we finished the original pilot, some folks at WB felt that
- Laurel was too...strong. They will rarely put it in terms quite as
- blatant as that, but that was the message...she was "unlikeable,
- unsympathetic, harsh." Meaning some of the guys felt she was too
- strong, let's cut to the chase, okay?
- They wanted her to loop her lines, soften their (her) delivery. I
- fought this tooth and nail. I fought this until finally I was
- pulled aside and it was communicated to me that B5 was, after all,
- still an unknown property, could be a big failure, and if we ever
- wanted to see this thing on the air, we'd accommodate this note
- (which was, I have to admit on balance, one of the few they had).
- The advice was, in essence, "Pick your battles."
- So, reluctantly, I let it get looped by Tamlyn.
- But now, when the re-edit was commissioned, and with the person at
- the studio who insisted on this now no longer AT the studio, I
- told Suzie, "Screw it, put back her original production track and
- trash the loops." Instantly, Laurel's energy level comes up, the
- performance is better...it just *feels* more natural now.
- So basically, we did a lot...some of it may not be immediately
- apparent (improving a sound here, altering coverage, adding
- additional sound layers, redoing a composite shot of the garden),
- but over the duration of watching it, it's just *better*. It's
- still a *tad* slower around the middle than I would've liked, but
- that's a WP (writer problem), nothing that can be fixed in an
- edit. It's just exposition-dense there, and nothing of a sort that
- can be cut.
- * "Also, the reworking of Sinclair's narration of the Battle of the
- Line, with Requiem for the Line and the battle transmissions was
- just gripping, it really showcased Michael O'Hare's strengths as
- an actor."
- Yeah, that was an experiment I wanted to try. When we did the
- audio spotting (me sitting with the sound folks, Chris, others), I
- explained what I wanted done with that scene, and they kinda got
- it but were a little dubious as to whether or not this could or
- would work. When we came to the day of the audio mix, it was kind
- of a jumble...so I worked with the music and the voices to
- basically fill in the gaps between Sinclair's words. Then I backed
- up and chose the ones that most related to what he had just said,
- or was about to just say. It took about half an hour to get that
- 30 second piece down pat.
- One of the least visible things I do is mess with the music and
- how the music lays out on the track. I'm often at the front of the
- mixing room, working with the mixers, bringing up one instrument
- (percussion, for instance), bringing down the horns for one piece,
- up in another. In "In the Beginning," for instance, there was
- percussion all through the Battle of the Line itself...and we had
- big EFX of guns and explosions going off, and the two muddied
- together. So I went with the explosions for the first of it, then
- replaced some of the gunfire/explosions with percussion, then
- ducked down the SFX altogether and just let the music take it. You
- kind of have to be a conductor in these instances.
- * _Why would Kosh tell Sinclair he was Valen?_
- Internal dialogue...what he was thinking, his reaction.
-
- _________________________________________________________________
-
- Originally compiled by Matthew Ryan _matt@uhs.uchicago.edu_
-
-
- [53]Last update: January 12, 1998
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