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  1. Babylon 5 posts by JMS on GEnie for April 15-30, 1994
  2. This file includes a compilation of posts on GEnie by J. Michael
  3. Straczynski in the Babylon 5 category. The posts are copyright by
  4. JMS (and compilation copyright is by GEnie).
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  6. Topic 1 Mon Oct 26, 1992
  7. SF-MARSHALL [Dave ] at 18:50 EST
  8. Sub: Babylon 5 - The Series (Non-Spoiler)
  9. Welcome to the Babylon 5 category and main topic for the new series. Here is
  10. the place for all general information on the series. Topic 2 is the location
  11. for SPOILERS. And please, NO STORY IDEAS are to be posted either.
  12. 503 message(s) total.
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  15. Category 18, Topic 1
  16. Message 351 Thu Apr 21, 1994
  17. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:37 EDT
  18. Steve...nothing personal, but...what the *hell* are you talking about?
  19. jms
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  21. Category 18, Topic 1
  22. Message 386 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  23. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:13 EDT
  24. I was asked to keep quite about this until April 23rd, which is when the
  25. announcement is to be made at the Nebulas, but now that it's indeed the 23rd,
  26. and that announcement either has been made or is being made now, I'm pleased
  27. to report that the Babylon 5 pilot movie, "The Gathering," has been nominated
  28. for a Hugo.
  29. Since we're up against Jurassic Park, I think I pretty much know where
  30. THAT award is going...but it is a tremendous honor and everyone involved with
  31. the show is very pleased by it.
  32. jms
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  34. Category 18, Topic 1
  35. Message 417 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  36. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:27 EDT
  37. Thanks. As it turns out -- I today saw the list of nominees -- B5 is the
  38. ONLY TV-SF nominated for the Hugo. The rest are all feature films (JP, Addams
  39. Family, Nightmare Before Christmas, Groundhog Day).
  40. As for questions for Mira...we'll play it by ear, and leave it to her
  41. discretion.
  42. jms
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  44. Category 18, Topic 1
  45. Message 422 Mon Apr 25, 1994
  46. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:18 EDT
  47. Abbut was not -- repeat, NOT -- an imitation of Harlan, as some have
  48. suggested. It was originally written for Gilbert Gottfried, who we later
  49. learned was unavailable.
  50. jms
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  52. Category 18, Topic 1
  53. Message 451 Wed Apr 27, 1994
  54. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:54 EDT
  55. Agreed, the pilot movie was much darker...unfortunately, it was SO dark
  56. that we actually veered into what're called "illegal blacks," that is, the
  57. picture is too dark, and this causes problems with foreign distributers.
  58. (This is what they tell me, and through an act of faith I have come to believe
  59. them.) We're still about a half-stop or full stop below what's typical. Be
  60. advised that many stations, when they broadcast the show, pump up the
  61. brightness a *lot*. They just dial it up.
  62. jms
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  64. Category 18, Topic 1
  65. Message 479 Fri Apr 29, 1994
  66. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:19 EDT
  67. My copies here at the house are SVHS, and they're a *quantum* jump over
  68. what I see over the air. So I can only guess what more would come out on
  69. disk. Eagerly awaiting the day. As for the pilot...I ordered a copy (yes,
  70. folks, I have to pay for one just like everybody else) some time ago; still
  71. hasn't come in yet.
  72. jms
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  75. Topic 2 Wed Nov 20, 1991
  76. STARR [Arne] at 19:41 EST
  77. Sub: Babylon 5 -- The Series!! >>SPOILERS<<
  78. Babylon 5 offically became a series on May 28 '93. There will be 22 hour eps
  79. for season one (in addition to the pilot). Airs Wednesdays at 8PM in most
  80. places starting Jan. 26 '94. This is the SPOILER topic where anything goes.
  81. 459 message(s) total.
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  84. Category 18, Topic 2
  85. Message 315 Tue Apr 19, 1994
  86. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:53 EDT
  87. I knew there was something I liked about Stern. (And proper that he
  88. played a sound "bite.") We sent Howard a B5 cap today, we'll see if it
  89. actually gets to him or not.
  90. jms
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  92. Category 18, Topic 2
  93. Message 321 Wed Apr 20, 1994
  94. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:43 EDT
  95. Jim, your thesis comes from the underlying assumption that, as in the
  96. Trek universe, All Things Must Be Done Fairly, the government must in the end
  97. be wise and fair and sensible.
  98. That ain't our universe. That ain't even *this* universe.
  99. Sinclair must follow orders. He didn't want to escort Deathwalker off
  100. and on to Earth, those were his marching orders. *The same marching orders
  101. would be given to an ambassador representing Earth*. So your career diplomat
  102. would be in exactly the same position. What, do you think that career
  103. diplomats are independent agents of goodness? They all work for SOMEone,
  104. representing their interests.
  105. Earth put in the majority of the money required to build and operate B5.
  106. They have the right, as such, to appoint a provisional governor, nad (and)
  107. that is the function that Sinclair mainly serves. He runs this place, AND he
  108. is responsible for maintaining good relations with other representatives. He
  109. is also on a short leash. And in some cases, as in "By Any Means Necessary,"
  110. other people are sent in to handle certain kinds of negotiations.
  111. Yes, it is a conflict of interest. So what? Do you think Earth cares
  112. much about that? Is it awkward? Yes, of course. It *should* put him in
  113. moral quandries. The Earth Government is constantly getting him into binds.
  114. What they wanted him to do in "Deathwalker" was more or less of a dubious
  115. nature. But in the end, he found a fairly moral solution to the problem.
  116. That's what he does. He finds an honorable way out of very difficult and
  117. morally ambiguous situations. What you suggest is that we remove the moral
  118. ambiguities. Ehhh. I find that boring as hell.
  119. Do the other species like it? Of course not. Okay, so what're they
  120. going to do? Boycott B5? And let other species take advantage of all the
  121. economic and political benefits the station provides? Let others grow in
  122. familiarity and form alliances that might in time turn against them? Not a
  123. chance. Fair or not, it's the only game in town.
  124. So I don't buy your solution because I don't think it's a problem. You
  125. do. That's life. Political situations are rarely fair, or logical, or
  126. ethical. If politics were based on ethics this would be a MUCH better world.
  127. But politics are generally based on who has the power, and the money, and the
  128. guts.
  129. jms
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  131. Category 18, Topic 2
  132. Message 324 Wed Apr 20, 1994
  133. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:28 EDT
  134. Jose: you are deliberately mischaracterizing the events in "Midnight."
  135. Sinclair did not -- repeat, did NOT -- "tell Ivanova to defy Earth's orders
  136. and deceive the council." He set up a situation in which he would say that he
  137. was unable to catch up with her and pass along the Senator's instructions
  138. before he had to leave. Her line would be that "The Commander never told me,"
  139. and he would back this up. (And that he would hedge the truth this way is
  140. hardly "perfect.")
  141. Defying the Senator's orders would be telling them that the vote will NOT
  142. be made as ordered. That never happened.
  143. Y'know, I don't mind if folks criticize, but it would be nice if what
  144. people criticized had actually HAPPENED...like the similar problem over in 19,
  145. when it was stated that the line, "There's a shuttle leaving in one hour, be
  146. on it" was made in three different episodes...when in fact it only happened in
  147. one.
  148. jms
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  150. Category 18, Topic 2
  151. Message 335 Thu Apr 21, 1994
  152. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:34 EDT
  153. Just to clarify...the Vorlon ship destroyed only Deathwalker's ship, not
  154. an EA vessel. And the Vorlon ship waited until Deathwalker's ship was far
  155. from B5, just before entering the gate, before coming out to strike. At that
  156. range, it couldn't miss, and at that distance, B5 couldn't react fast enough.
  157. jms
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  159. Category 18, Topic 2
  160. Message 352 Fri Apr 22, 1994
  161. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:15 EDT
  162. The suspect was a) catatonic, b) a missing person's life was at stake, c)
  163. the next of kin gave permission, d) the information was not used at trial, was
  164. not admissible, and only the pertinent information on the missing person was
  165. ever used.
  166. jms
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  168. Category 18, Topic 2
  169. Message 362 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  170. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:07 EDT
  171. Tolkien's work had a *profound* effect on me in college; as I later read
  172. all of the background material, the reams and reams of "history" that he wrote
  173. to background his novels, I began to realize that *that's* the way to do it.
  174. So I tried to take that kind of approach, filling out as much as humanly
  175. possible about the universe, characters and history. It's the only really
  176. sensible way to tackle something this large.
  177. jms
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  179. Category 18, Topic 2
  180. Message 371 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  181. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:12 EDT
  182. Bugs...very well done. You're paying attention.
  183. jms
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  185. Category 18, Topic 2
  186. Message 376 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  187. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:16 EDT
  188. My notes would have to be *seriously* reworked to be made publishable.
  189. jms
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  191. Category 18, Topic 2
  192. Message 382 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  193. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:45 EDT
  194. If you count "Deathwalker," then 9 episodes have aired so far.
  195. jms
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  197. Category 18, Topic 2
  198. Message 395 Mon Apr 25, 1994
  199. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:47 EDT
  200. Lennier is not in the cargo area during the beating, nor is he in BG
  201. during the negotiations. That's a Minbari of the worker class. (You can
  202. generally tell from the orange-ish smock-thingie they wear.) Sorry.
  203. jms
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  205. Category 18, Topic 2
  206. Message 400 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  207. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:16 EDT
  208. The type of Minbari flyer used is a one-person (at most two) ship; she
  209. came alone to the station, and left alone. (You'll see this kind of ship, and
  210. the limit of space, more in another episode.)
  211. Psi Cops are *authorized* to carry firearms. The Knights had an in with
  212. Security, and by virtue of high government contacts, got their stuff on board.
  213. Those seem to me not requiring much explanation.
  214. jms
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  216. Category 18, Topic 2
  217. Message 415 Wed Apr 27, 1994
  218. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:55 EDT
  219. On the "predictable" argument...I can only shrug. The kid has a 50/50
  220. chance...he'll survive or die. And guessing the end isn't, for me, the key;
  221. this isn't a who-dunit; it's how our characters react on the way there, and
  222. what it *does* to them, I think.
  223. And yeah, TV generally doesn't do this kind of ending. Which is why we
  224. did it...and our liaison at Warner Bros. deserves a lot of credit for letting
  225. us do it.
  226. jms
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  228. Category 18, Topic 2
  229. Message 418 Thu Apr 28, 1994
  230. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:40 EDT
  231. Since I suggested the ending to David, right down to the candles, I
  232. suppose I'll take the rap...but the question you're raising isn't the issue.
  233. There are only two possible results: the kid lives, or the kid dies, there
  234. ain't much in-between. You ask, "Who on earth is going to side with people
  235. who kill their own child?" The audience isn't being asked to *side* with
  236. anyone, there IS no easy solution, and no one is 100% in the right.
  237. There is a wonderful short story, which we adapted for Twilight Zone,
  238. called "The Cold Equations," where a small shuttle is going from point A to
  239. point B. There is enough fuel for the shuttle, and one pilot, and no more.
  240. The ship is bringing medicine to save 500 colonists. A young girl has stowed
  241. away on the ship to see her brother. She's discovered. If the pilot does
  242. nothing, the ship won't arrive, and he and the girl will die, and the
  243. colonists will die. If he sacrifices himself, she won't be able/won't know
  244. how to guide the ship to its destination. The only way out is to ask her to
  245. enter the airlock so he can space her and continue the mission. And that's
  246. what happens. You can't argue with math.
  247. Sometimes, there are no-win scenarios. And what matters then is how your
  248. characters react, what they do and say, and how it affects them. That,
  249. really, was the thrust of the episode. And to go back to your question, "Who
  250. on earth is going to side...."
  251. The operative word in your question is "Earth." No, no human is going to
  252. side with them (although I'd point out in the Bible that there is the story of
  253. Abraham, who was quite willing to murder his own son at god's request).
  254. They're not humans. They have a wholly different mindset, cultural background
  255. and belief system. People ask for ALIEN aliens, then judge them by human
  256. standards, and feel it's wrong if they don't behave like humans. These
  257. didn't. That's who and what they are. If humans side with them, or accept
  258. them, doesn't enter into it.
  259. jms
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  261. Category 18, Topic 2
  262. Message 432 Fri Apr 29, 1994
  263. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:25 EDT
  264. I can't believe this "explain how the guns get aboard" discussion is
  265. still going on. This isn't the Enterprise, to use the cited example, which
  266. is a *military vessel*, and only the occasional rare civilian gets on board.
  267. There are a QUARTER MILLION PEOPLE on board at any given moment. (People =
  268. humans and aliens.) Not staying there, but in a state of flux. Going and
  269. coming. Anywhere from 50 to 100 ships per day dock at B5. Thousands upon
  270. thousands of boxes, crates, cargo loads, pallets, you name it. If you stopped
  271. and inspected every single box that came through, the system would grind to a
  272. halt. So you do the best you can, you catch whatever you can, scan as much as
  273. possible, and accept that some stuff is bound to slip through.
  274. Further, this is the kind of explanation that has nothing to do with a
  275. story, only with someone's need to have something explained to them. I think
  276. the time is spent better elsewhere.
  277. jms
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  279. Category 18, Topic 2
  280. Message 444 Sat Apr 30, 1994
  281. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:18 EDT
  282. I know from pfingle eggs...I let David have the reference because...
  283. well, I don't know anymore...I think water torture was involved.
  284. Drys...no. The choice *had* to be either/or. That was the point; to put
  285. the characters in a situation of conflict and see how they handle it.
  286. Sometimes in life there are ONLY two choices, neither of them good. Your
  287. message comes from a position of trying to avoid the hard choices. But the
  288. episode is ABOUT hard choices. It *has* to be either/or.
  289. To support your thesis, you bring up the "Cold Equations" alternate
  290. ending of the pilot cutting off both his legs to make up the weight
  291. differential. Lemme explain something to you. I was there. When we turned
  292. in the script, by Alan Brennert, MGM went nuts. "You can't have a sympathetic
  293. young woman commit suicide! It'll kill the ratings!" So they (the studio
  294. exec) suggested various "fixes." One was that instead of stepping willingly
  295. out the airlock, the pilot shoots her and has to deal with the guilt. (This
  296. by them is a *better* idea?) The other was the notion of the guy cutting off
  297. his legs to make up the weight.
  298. First and foremost, it was a dumb idea because he'd be in no shape to
  299. pilot the ship. Second it wouldn't be enough weight. And finally, the very
  300. *nature* of "The Cold Equations," what the very TITLE means, is that there are
  301. some occasions in which the choices are stark, and there is NO way around
  302. them. If the ship has X-weight, and the fuel is for Y weight, and Y is less
  303. than X, then you've got a problem that can only -- ONLY -- be resolved by
  304. someone walking out the airlock. (And yes, they tried dumping things, but the
  305. ship is lean, not much to get rid of.) That's why it's the COLD equations;
  306. not the LUKEWARM equations.
  307. I fought like hell to retain the original ending, and won. (You probably
  308. read about this, btw, in my articles for TZ Magazine.) This is studio-think,
  309. let's find a nice, unthreatening, safe, middle-ground where we can resolve
  310. this without anybody being upset, threatened or offended by the story. I'm
  311. sorry, but life sometimes hands you hard choices, there ARE either/or
  312. scenarios, in which nobody really wins, and SF should be exploring those as
  313. well as the fuzzy feel-good stories. It's time SF grew up a little, damn it,
  314. and started confronting hard questions that can't always be resolved by
  315. reversing the polarity on the metaphase unit.
  316. jms
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  318. Category 18, Topic 2
  319. Message 445 Sat Apr 30, 1994
  320. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:34 EDT
  321. Afterthought: I just wandered into the kitchen, still ranting (as I am
  322. wont to do), explained it to Kathryn...who brought me up short (as *she* is
  323. wont to do) by pointing out the antecedent to BOTH stories. Th ultimate
  324. "hard choice" example in SF-TV is of course "The City on the Edge of Forever,"
  325. from ST. There are only two choices, both hard: either Edith Keeler dies, or
  326. the Nazis win WW II. Kirk *has* to let her die; there's no other choice.
  327. It is, at the same moment, gratifying and annoying to have someone around
  328. who's smarter than I am....
  329. jms
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  331. Category 18, Topic 2
  332. Message 452 Sat Apr 30, 1994
  333. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:14 EDT
  334. Owning your own space ship isn't cheap, but it also isn't as expensive as
  335. it might be. The investment is about the same as starting up your own
  336. business. There's not a lot of civilian "touring cars," for lack of a better
  337. term; better to use the liners and shuttles. But for businesses, surveyers,
  338. explorers, traders and the like...yeah, they're within one's grasp. And these
  339. sorts of ships are pretty much all run by computer. No crew required. Just
  340. go from place to place. If it's a scientific survey ship, then you'll have
  341. some more.
  342. jms
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  345. Topic 3 Tue Nov 03, 1992
  346. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:09 EST
  347. Sub: Babylon 5 - Computer SFX Tech-Talk
  348. Some of the new computer EFX used in BABYLON 5 will be revolutionary, a new
  349. approach never seen before on this scale. It's all new tech, and this topic
  350. will try and address the new technologies involved.
  351. 492 message(s) total.
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  354. Category 18, Topic 3
  355. Message 481 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  356. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:35 EDT
  357. I've told our people that in season two (Neilsen willing), I want a new
  358. Babcom or general communications standby screen...and if I ever see the old
  359. one again, someone's going to get hurt....
  360. jms
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  363. Topic 4 Tue Nov 03, 1992
  364. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:12 EST
  365. Sub: Babylon 5 - Cast & Characters
  366. For discussion of the actors who will be bringing BABYLON 5 to life with their
  367. performances...for information before, and discussion after the airing of "The
  368. Gathering" pilot.
  369. 525 message(s) total.
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  372. Category 18, Topic 4
  373. Message 502 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  374. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:18 EDT
  375. The female investigator.
  376. Hell of a makeup job.
  377. jms
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  380. Topic 11 Sat Nov 14, 1992
  381. J.SHEEN1 [Leviathan] at 18:09 EST
  382. Sub: B5 Adrift!
  383. BABYLON 5 Topic Drift
  384. If you feel like talking about it, but it doesn't fit anywhere else... If its
  385. only connection to B-5 is that you thought of it in this CAT...
  386. This is where to come and get it out.
  387. 411 message(s) total.
  388. ************
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  390. Category 18, Topic 11
  391. Message 396 Fri Apr 29, 1994
  392. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:00 EDT
  393. I was on "Murder" for about two years. I left about the time we were
  394. just finishing post-production on the B5 pilot movie. I think I wrote about 8
  395. or so episodes of the series. A couple were Irish type stories, "The Wind
  396. Around the Tower," and "To the Last Will I Grapple With Thee" (I was in a
  397. contest to come up with the longest title in the history of the series), the
  398. murder in the Psycho house "Incident In Lot 7," one or two at the university,
  399. including "Lines of Excellence," and some others. It was an enjoyable
  400. experience, all things considered, and I still think highly of Angela. I have
  401. a great deal of respect for her; she's a complete professional.
  402. jms
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  405. Topic 13 Mon Nov 23, 1992
  406. T.ORTH [Mr. Rico] at 21:00 EST
  407. Sub: Babylon 5 - Science & Technology
  408. Jump gates, nanotech, high-tech weapons, starship drives, sound in space, and
  409. other subjects of science and technology in Babylon 5.
  410. 325 message(s) total.
  411. ************
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  413. Category 18, Topic 13
  414. Message 299 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  415. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:20 EDT
  416. You enter the docking bay, and the doors at the other end open. They
  417. then close behind you, and begin pressurizing. Your ship is then lowered down
  418. to one of the actual bays. You'll see this in a lot more detail in
  419. "Survivors" and especially in "By Any Means Necessary."
  420. jms
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  422. Category 18, Topic 13
  423. Message 301 Wed Apr 27, 1994
  424. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:56 EDT
  425. Well, we put the camera in there and it got crushed....
  426. jms
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  428. Category 18, Topic 13
  429. Message 306 Fri Apr 29, 1994
  430. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:02 EDT
  431. The scale of our ships is pretty specific, and those numbers are crunched
  432. into the animation, so it's all constantly in the correct size relationship.
  433. It's the eye that is often fooled.
  434. jms
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  436. Category 18, Topic 13
  437. Message 322 Sun May 01, 1994
  438. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:26 EDT
  439. The Earth Alliance funded the first few attempts exclusively; after
  440. they'd dumped all their money into B4, they needed outside funding to get B5
  441. going, and the Minbari were first to contribute money as a show of good faith.
  442. Then the Centauri added additional funding. Those are the only two other
  443. races that've contributed significantly.
  444. The world B5 orbits is Epsilon 3.
  445. PPG = Phased Plasma Gun.
  446. jms
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  449. Topic 14 Thu Dec 31, 1992
  450. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:59 EST
  451. Sub: Lurkers/Introductions: Please Sign In
  452. A place for newcomers to come in, say hello, whether you want to jump into the
  453. conversation or not, just to let us know you're here.
  454. 610 message(s) total.
  455. ************
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  457. Category 18, Topic 14
  458. Message 579 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  459. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:04 EDT
  460. I think the term usually used to describe B5 viewers is, "People Of
  461. Incredible Taste, Perception and Discretion."
  462. jms
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  465. Topic 15 Thu Dec 31, 1992
  466. J.ROY18 [Jonathan] at 21:29 EST
  467. Sub: Babylon 5 - Alien Races
  468. Aliens races in Babylon 5... their politics, abilties, technology, history,
  469. and any other discussion specificly about non-humans.
  470. 250 message(s) total.
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  473. Category 18, Topic 15
  474. Message 230 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  475. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:07 EDT
  476. Well, let's see...there's the Drazi (slightly purplish heads, the ones
  477. who beat the crap out of the guy in "War Prayer," and brought in the Drazi
  478. Sunhawk in "Deathwalker"), the pak'ma'ra (the ones who shuffle through frame
  479. in greenish robes, with tentacles where their mouths should be...and about
  480. whom there is something very weird, rather icky, which you'll see in
  481. "Legacies"), the Abbai, commonly known around the studio as "fishheads"...will
  482. post a fuller description later. Those are the ones you see mainly in DW.
  483. jms
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  485. Category 18, Topic 15
  486. Message 239 Thu Apr 28, 1994
  487. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:02 EDT
  488. On the ships...when Ron was pulling together the ships for that episode,
  489. we talked about it on the phone for a while, and I have to take the rap for
  490. the saucers...which I still think are cool. I said, in essence, why the hell
  491. not? Ron thought it was a great idea, and went and made it real. I think if
  492. we ever see this kind of ship again, it'll need some more work, a little more
  493. weight and substance, some more detail, but they're okay.
  494. jms
  495. ------------
  496. ************
  497. Topic 21 Wed Feb 02, 1994
  498. S.SHELLENBAR [>> SHANE <<] at 09:43 EST
  499. Sub: Quotes from BABYLON 5
  500. Here is where we show the writers, actors, and even the directors that we
  501. appreciate WHAT and HOW the characters say the things they say.
  502. 25 message(s) total.
  503. ************
  504. ------------
  505. Category 18, Topic 21
  506. Message 25 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  507. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:21 EDT
  508. (I really love that line....)
  509. jms
  510. ------------
  511. ************
  512. Topic 24 Fri Jun 04, 1993
  513. J.ROY18 [Jonathan] at 21:11 EDT
  514. Sub: Babylon 5 - Weapons and Warfare!
  515. For discussion about the weapons, counter weapons, armor, shielding, tactics,
  516. logistics, and so forth, of small combat and large scale war in the Babylon 5
  517. universe.
  518. 276 message(s) total.
  519. ************
  520. ------------
  521. Category 18, Topic 24
  522. Message 256 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  523. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:09 EDT
  524. Correct, the main difference between pistols and rifles is the range, and
  525. the number of shots you can get out before slapping in a recharge pod. A hand
  526. PPG can give you about 10-12 shots per charge, while a rifle nearly doubles
  527. that. (And yes, we have sat down and worked out a goodly part of this stuff.)
  528. jms
  529. ------------
  530. Category 18, Topic 24
  531. Message 263 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  532. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:22 EDT
  533. Variable settings.
  534. jms
  535. ------------
  536. Category 18, Topic 24
  537. Message 265 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  538. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:33 EDT
  539. "I'm hoping that Star Trek will now learn a lesson from Joe."
  540. Buy low. Sell high.
  541. jms
  542. ------------
  543. ************
  544. Topic 27 Fri Feb 04, 1994
  545. W.SUDLOW [Raffles] at 19:56 EST
  546. Sub: Babylon 5 and Religion
  547. A place to discuss Soul Hunters, Minbari reincarnation beliefs and other
  548. >metaphysical subjects. Feel free to compare and contrast with human
  549. religions, but *please* be considerate, and avoid entering realworld
  550. theological debates.
  551. 95 message(s) total.
  552. ************
  553. ------------
  554. Category 18, Topic 27
  555. Message 66 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  556. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:11 EDT
  557. Garibaldi is an agnostic verging on atheism. Sinclair was taught by
  558. Jesuits and raised with a religious background. Ivanova is Jewish, but very
  559. much lapsed. Franklin is a Foundationist. Others TBA.
  560. jms
  561. ------------
  562. Category 18, Topic 27
  563. Message 68 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  564. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:12 EDT
  565. The Foundation is a new religion, started close to the year 2000, which
  566. gradually grew and achieved a fair amount of respectability over the
  567. following 200 years (as with mormonism, for instance).
  568. jms
  569. ------------
  570. Category 18, Topic 27
  571. Message 74 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  572. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:33 EDT
  573. Narns would be considered kosher.
  574. Spoo would simply be considered.
  575. jms
  576. ------------
  577. Category 18, Topic 27
  578. Message 81 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  579. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:39 EDT
  580. Boy, you guys are gonna *love* "By Any Means Necessary" and "TKO." They
  581. deal with ALL this stuff.
  582. The Foundation would take a long, long time to explain here.
  583. jms
  584. ------------
  585. Category 18, Topic 27
  586. Message 87 Wed Apr 27, 1994
  587. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 17:29 EDT
  588. Someone once described Jesuits as god's pit bulls...kinda fits.
  589. jms
  590. ------------
  591. Category 18, Topic 27
  592. Message 93 Thu Apr 28, 1994
  593. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:04 EDT
  594. BTW, Sinclair mentions his Jesuit teachers (and his relationship to them)
  595. again in "By Any Means Necessary."
  596. jms
  597. ------------
  598. ************
  599. Topic 7 Sat Oct 16, 1993
  600. STARR [Arne] at 10:51 EDT
  601. Sub: Believers (#105)
  602. by David Gerrold. Religion comes into play aboard Babylon-5.
  603. 48 message(s) total.
  604. ************
  605. ------------
  606. Category 19, Topic 7
  607. Message 4 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  608. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:06 EDT
  609. When I developed the basic Believers story, and was looking for someone
  610. to assign it to, David was the first person we went to. He asked me at the
  611. time why him...he's more generally associated with humorous stuff. I had my
  612. reasons. See, lately, David adopted a young boy, about the same age as Shon.
  613. So about halfway into the outline, David called and said, "NOW I understand."
  614. I knew that having a child of his own now would mean that the story would be a
  615. lot more personal. Especially the end scene, which I knew would have to be
  616. done *very* carefully.
  617. I think David did a great job, and under his guidance it turned into a
  618. very moving episode. And with any luck, he'll write more down the road.
  619. jms
  620. ------------
  621. Category 19, Topic 7
  622. Message 8 Sat Apr 23, 1994
  623. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 17:50 EDT
  624. To clarify...I was referring to most of David's TV work, not his novels.
  625. At least, that was his own estimation of his work at the time.
  626. jms
  627. ------------
  628. Category 19, Topic 7
  629. Message 33 Fri Apr 29, 1994
  630. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:48 EDT
  631. I'm not quite sure if we're talking about the same thing; the two parents
  632. never said that the kid would die if he underwent the surgery, only that his
  633. soul would escape. This would leave him "soul-dead," for lack of a better
  634. phrase. And how are we to tell that they weren't right? I don't think it's
  635. quite as cut and dried as you seem to present.
  636. (And again, they were acting very much out of their real beliefs of how
  637. the universe operates. If someone here is injured, and declared brain dead,
  638. most folks think it's okay to pull the plug...even though one could make the
  639. argument that there's still a living soul in the body. This is the opposite
  640. situation; one may argue that there is still a mind somewhere in the body, but
  641. the soul is dead or gone. The phrase they use is that they put the shell out
  642. of its misery. To their mind, he was dead already.)
  643. jms
  644. ------------
  645. Category 19, Topic 7
  646. Message 41 Sat Apr 30, 1994
  647. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:51 EDT
  648. She got away by long-distance firing as she retreated as fast as she
  649. could, taking shots as she went. It wouldn't look real exciting in the long
  650. run. And the people of the egg emphasize that the body must be *penetrated*;
  651. it has to go into the body cavity itself to release the soul. Paper cuts
  652. won't do it.
  653. jms
  654. ------------
  655. ************
  656. Topic 14 Sun Oct 17, 1993
  657. SF-MARSHALL [Dave ] at 15:15 EDT
  658. Sub: Deathwalker (#113)
  659. by Larry DiTillio. Co-starring Sarah Douglas and Robin Curtis.
  660. 156 message(s) total.
  661. ************
  662. ------------
  663. Category 19, Topic 14
  664. Message 44 Fri Apr 22, 1994
  665. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:12 EDT
  666. Re: Kosh's voice...though we've fixed *most* of the video crap that's
  667. being done to our eps after delivery, we're still being clamped, which is
  668. causing some problems like this.
  669. Working on it.
  670. jms
  671. ------------
  672. Category 19, Topic 14
  673. Message 71 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  674. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:15 EDT
  675. You'll see more about Garibaldi's drinking problem in about two weeks.
  676. jms
  677. ------------
  678. Category 19, Topic 14
  679. Message 83 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  680. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:23 EDT
  681. Abbut was screwing around when he said "I'm a 23 myself," just messing
  682. with her. And yes, the Windswords were the warrior clan involved in the
  683. events in "The Gathering."
  684. jms
  685. ------------
  686. Category 19, Topic 14
  687. Message 86 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  688. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 21:11 EDT
  689. H.Mallette...you're reviewing things that didn't happen, or which YOU are
  690. twisting to your OWN convenience.
  691. You assume the crowd meeting Sinclair could be placated. They make it
  692. clear, in dialogue: "You will have to kill us all." They could not BE
  693. placated. Your assumption has nothing to do with what happened, or what was
  694. said. Maybe in the ST universe, Picard can turn on the charm and just talk
  695. people out of things. That doesn't happen here, not easily at any rate. It
  696. was turn back or kill them. Those were the choices.
  697. You misstate when you say that Dr. Franklin was unable to analyze the
  698. serum. He states that his preliminary analysis of the serum DID confirm her
  699. statements; this was backed up by further evidence that she was Jha'dur, that
  700. she was impossibly younger than she should be, and that her wounds were
  701. healing with incredible speed. "My assumption would be that she'd invented
  702. something that LOOKED like an antiagapic." Yes, and your assumption would be
  703. wrong. All the evidence pointed to it being EXACTLY what she said it was.
  704. Further, the agreement between the League and Sinclair was that scientists
  705. would be on hand during the period of development to *insure* that it was what
  706. it was supposed to be. Or did you miss that part? Nobody was saying to use
  707. it now...no one. You' are reacting to an issue that never appeared in the
  708. show.
  709. The EA escort got her as far as the gate. Then peeled away. And then
  710. the Vorlon ship came out. That's what Sinclair said: "They will escort you as
  711. far as the gate." And even if they had stayed with her THROUGH the gate, it
  712. would've made no difference. Vorlon ship comes through. Fires at
  713. Deathwalker's ship. EA ships fire back. No visible effec, the cruiser shrugs
  714. it off and goes back the way it came. Single Starfuries wouldn't even *dent*
  715. a Vorlon cruiser. So same result.
  716. My bottom line: if you don't like the show, then don't watch the show.
  717. But please refrain from twisting what happened due to your incorrect
  718. assumptions, or for your own convenience in attacking something.
  719. jms
  720. ------------
  721. Category 19, Topic 14
  722. Message 88 Sun Apr 24, 1994
  723. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:39 EDT
  724. Lennier has no such power; Delenn chose to tell Lennier not to mention
  725. that she was a member of the Grey Council. With Sinclair, Lennier was totally
  726. unaware of Jha'dur's time with the Windswords when it was first mentioned to
  727. him. He then went and spoke to Delenn and the Council, which explained the
  728. situation to him, and gave him his marching orders. He did not get Sinclair
  729. to "chat about top-secret information," Sinclair came to him to find out what
  730. he could about Jha'dur's claim.
  731. jms
  732. ------------
  733. Category 19, Topic 14
  734. Message 91 Mon Apr 25, 1994
  735. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:17 EDT
  736. Bear in mind also that until the corridor confrontation, Sincliar had no
  737. idea that the League knew Deathwalker was there (and they didn't, until G'Kar
  738. told them just beforehand). That makes a major difference; once they knew she
  739. was there, he'd blow the council apart by trying to smuggle her out. If they
  740. could get her off-station without the League knowing anything about it, THAT
  741. was what Earth was counting on.
  742. jms
  743. ------------
  744. Category 19, Topic 14
  745. Message 107 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  746. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:10 EDT
  747. H.Mallette...when you have waded through as many as 1,000 messages a day
  748. about something you've done, some laudatory, many critical, usually all of
  749. them contradictory, then you can talk to me about knee-jerk defensiveness.
  750. Once in a while I get cranky -- especially when awaiting word on a pickup
  751. -- but for the most part, I think I've been pretty good in all of this.
  752. Re: language...if you're going to America from Russia as an ambassador,
  753. you're expected to know English fluently. B5 is funded by (mostly) and
  754. operated by Earth, and English is more or less the dominant language. Hence,
  755. they know it well enough to communicate with us. (BTW, this is already
  756. happening here...every airport on the planet, for example, uses english
  757. consistently in the control tower to planes, and more people outside english-
  758. speaking countries are educated in english than we are in alternate
  759. languages.)
  760. For others, there are 3 basic options: english, Centauri, and an
  761. interstellar kind of esperanto. Failing that, mechanical translators, such as
  762. are seen in "Legacies," are brought into service.
  763. jms
  764. ------------
  765. Category 19, Topic 14
  766. Message 110 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  767. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:31 EDT
  768. Yeah, I really thought the Space Rangers line was out of line and
  769. uncalled for; generally, I react with equal civility to what is first put in
  770. front of my face.
  771. And no, that wasn't his brain.
  772. jms
  773. ------------
  774. Category 19, Topic 14
  775. Message 111 Tue Apr 26, 1994
  776. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:31 EDT
  777. P.S. "CAUSTICITY??!"
  778. jms
  779. ------------
  780. Category 19, Topic 14
  781. Message 139 Thu Apr 28, 1994
  782. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 17:21 EDT
  783. Herb, no, I don't agree with you. As far as we knew, Lennier was going
  784. to vote with Sinclair and the League. So you hold off his change of vote for
  785. the end. You get a few no votes, annoy the League, Sinclair raises their
  786. hope, and then Lennier, much as he hates it, dashes that hope. It's an arc
  787. that way, rather than a descending staircase.
  788. jms
  789. ------------
  790. ************
  791. Topic 16 Sun Apr 17, 1994
  792. STARR [Arne] at 23:42 EDT
  793. Sub: Signs and Portents (#116)
  794. by JMS. Directed by Janet Greek. Co-starring Gerrit Graham.
  795. 10 message(s) total.
  796. ************
  797. ------------
  798. Category 19, Topic 16
  799. Message 3 Mon Apr 18, 1994
  800. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:36 EDT
  801. If we can keep the discussion fairly general; I know this is a spoilers
  802. topic, but it's *so* long until broadcast on this one, if we could keep it
  803. fairly general just for the next couple weeks, that'd be great.
  804. jms
  805. ------------