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  1. Babylon 5 posts by JMS on GEnie for Second half of March, 1994
  2. This file includes a compilation of posts on GEnie by J. Michael
  3. Straczynski in the Babylon 5 category. The posts are copyright by
  4. JMS (and compilation copyright is by GEnie).
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  6. Topic 1 Mon Oct 26, 1992
  7. SF-MARSHALL [Dave ] at 18:50 EST
  8. Sub: Babylon 5 - The Series (Non-Spoiler)
  9. Welcome to the Babylon 5 category and main topic for the new series. Here is
  10. the place for all general information on the series. Topic 2 is the location
  11. for SPOILERS. And please, NO STORY IDEAS are to be posted either.
  12. 773 message(s) total.
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  15. Category 18, Topic 1
  16. Message 627 Fri Mar 18, 1994
  17. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:19 EST
  18. Less than one week left of filming on Year One. Eek.
  19. ]*D,2
  20. If I can put a word out onto the electronic web...usually, in the network
  21. shows, a series runs its course, and at the end of the season, the network
  22. decides whether or not to renew. Because of the schedule of PTEN, the
  23. decision to renew or not comes in April/May.
  24. While the ratings are good -- mention of the B5 ratings got a headline in
  25. today's "Hollywood Reporter" along with ST -- there's a new wrinkle in the
  26. situation. The new Paramount Network. They're making deals with stations as
  27. fast as they can, snatching up the independent stations and trying to secure
  28. the few remaining available timeslots (which with the glut of programs now are
  29. continually growing smaller in number). So for a station, it's a choice
  30. between two or more shows that might rate equally fine, but there's outside
  31. pressure.
  32. Point being this (and anyone who wants to upload this entire message to
  33. other nets, feel free): if -- IF -- you genuinely enjoy the show, and would
  34. like to see it renewed, this would be a very good time to drop your local TV
  35. station a letter indicating this. The stations have a direct input as to
  36. whether or not shows are renewed. It certainly couldn't hurt.
  37. jms
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  39. Category 18, Topic 1
  40. Message 634 Fri Mar 18, 1994
  41. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:35 EST
  42. The reference was not to "V," but to the military use of this over the
  43. last several decades, particularly in WW II. (And I didn't work on the V
  44. series, only the new (and never produced) 4-hour miniseries that was intended
  45. to revive the series.)
  46. jms
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  48. Category 18, Topic 1
  49. Message 679 Mon Mar 21, 1994
  50. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:37 EST
  51. Whenever I have spoken of Berman and Pillar to the press, I have
  52. characterized them as honorable people. The press goes out of its way to
  53. foment controversy, and after my initial reaction to the DS9 premise, it was
  54. my eventual decision to simply produce the show and, at that point, it
  55. survives or falls on its own merits. If Pillar is going to get into name-
  56. calling and characterizations and this kind of playground vernacular, I see no
  57. reason to join him there.
  58. BTW...flew back this morning from Houston, where on behalf of B5, I
  59. received the award from the Space Frontier Foundation for Best Vision of the
  60. Future. Based in part on our attempt -- within the confines of dramatic TV --
  61. to stick with real science...ships that move the right way in space,
  62. commercial use of space surveying, civilian ships, the use of an O'Neill-type
  63. station for the first time in TV or movies, and so on. At my table was co-
  64. recipient astronaut Pete Conrad. (I commented to him that, as someone who
  65. *writes* about space, to sit across from someone who LIVED there, was like
  66. being a lay priest called upon to say High Mass at the Vatican, before the
  67. Pope, on Easter sunday. He laughed.)
  68. We have worked hard to make B5 as accurate a presentation of a possible
  69. future as we can, and the receipt of this award, from a national group of
  70. scientists, engineers, astronauts, researchers and others (some involved
  71. heavily in the Delta Clipper project) makes it equal to the Emmy, in my view,
  72. however much more emphasis the media may place on the former.
  73. jms
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  75. Category 18, Topic 1
  76. Message 719 Sun Mar 27, 1994
  77. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:19 EST
  78. Some international info...B5 goes on the air May 16th on Channel 4 in the
  79. UK. Other places that'll be carrying the show starting around that same time:
  80. AUM Trinidad; Canal Plus, France; Set Eitz, Germany; RCTI, the Philipines; Sky-
  81. TV; 7 Network, Australia; and miscellaneous places I don't have full info on
  82. (some just station IDs, some areas): Taipei, TV3, TVNZ, TTV, IBC, BEC, Canal
  83. Sinco, ICP, Proziba, and Italy.
  84. jms
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  86. Category 18, Topic 1
  87. Message 733 Mon Mar 28, 1994
  88. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:31 EST
  89. Actually, we came very close to doing a black-and-white segment this
  90. season, and might do so next.
  91. Well, last night was the B5 wrap party, at Pickwick Bowl here in the
  92. valley, opposite the equestrian center. I think I bowled about nine games in
  93. a row, and currently ache in muscles I didn't know I had. About 325 cast,
  94. crew, writers and producers. Harlan showed up, and after a slow start bowled
  95. 180 and whomped hell out of us. I averaged about 160 in my later games. Or
  96. less. David Gerrold showed up, Larry, Andreas, Michael, Peter, Mira, Caitlin,
  97. Bill...and the B5 Blasters, the art department bowling team with their own
  98. bowling shirts. When I left, about 12:30 am, things were still going pretty
  99. strong.
  100. jms
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  102. Category 18, Topic 1
  103. Message 742 Wed Mar 30, 1994
  104. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:37 EST
  105. Well, now I've heard it all...was speaking to Walter Koenig tonight,
  106. and he mentioned being at a convention this past weekend, and hearing a
  107. lot of positive B5 comments. Along the way, he overheard a discussion
  108. between a bunch of folk, many of whom were defending TNG and DS9's rather
  109. minimal SFX and smaller cast and other stuff by saying that it wasn't
  110. a fair comparison, "since B5 has a lot more money to spend than TNG or
  111. DS9."
  112. I could've plotzed.....
  113. P.S. A schedule for those interested:
  114. CONFIRMED schedule....
  115. April 20th, "Deathwalker," by Lawrence G. DiTillio
  116. April 27th, "Believers," by David Gerrold
  117. May 4th, "Survivors," by Marc Scott Zicree
  118. May 11th, "Signs and Portents," by jms
  119. May 18th, "By Any Means Necessary," by Kathryn M. Drennan
  120. May 25th, "The Quality of Mercy," by jms
  121. Then repeats from June 1 through October 5th, in order to stretch
  122. new episodes through the November sweeps. TENTATIVE schedule of final
  123. episodes....
  124. October 12th, "Grail," by Christy Marx
  125. October 19th, "Eyes," by Lawrence G. DiTillio
  126. October 26th, "TKO," by Lawrence G. DiTillio
  127. November 2nd, "A Voice in the Wilderness, Part 1," by jms
  128. November 9th, "A Voice in the Wilderness, Part 2," by jms
  129. November 16th, "Babylon Squared," by jms
  130. November 23rd, "Legacies," by D.C. Fontana
  131. November 30th, "Chrysalis," by jms
  132. jms
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  134. Category 18, Topic 1
  135. Message 746 Wed Mar 30, 1994
  136. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:59 EST
  137. About time you started to put out....
  138. jms
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  140. Category 18, Topic 1
  141. Message 760 Thu Mar 31, 1994
  142. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:22 EST
  143. Quickies...apparently (I'm told) Howard Stern mentioned B5 favorably in
  144. both his Tuesday AND Wednesday broadcasts, though I haven't heard it myself.
  145. This after a prior mention some time ago.
  146. We must be doing *something* right.
  147. Also...apparently, at a convention, Rick Sternbach from ST said that the
  148. ST shows (DS9 and, subsequently, Voyager) would be shifting over to primarily
  149. computer EFX rather than models. They're going to start coming over to OUR
  150. turf...and engaging in the usual learning curve, trial and erros, which we've
  151. already gone through.
  152. Me...I just sit here and smile...and on one level, despite the way it may
  153. appear, I'm pleased. It shows we were right. And if they start doing CGI,
  154. it'll force both sides to again be competitive in terms of doing more, pushing
  155. things. And that friendly competition is good for the blood, it should keep
  156. both shows on the cutting edge. It'll also enable other shows to come in
  157. using CGI, meaning more SF on the air.
  158. It also ties into what I've heard lately, that Paramount is getting
  159. hammered by some of the stations asking why the hell DS9 episodes often cost
  160. 1.7 to 2 million dollars an episode to produce, where B5 is doing more, with
  161. half the budget. I would love to hear the response to that.
  162. We're putting the finishing touches on the two-parter this week, and this
  163. one's really a blow-out episode. More and bigger sets, more CGI than just
  164. about any prior episode, and more *elaborate* CGI, a big story...we keep
  165. trying to get more ambitious as we go along. So far it looks like we'll have
  166. at *minimum* one real blow-out action episode in each ratings cycle; "Signs
  167. and Portents" in May, and the two-parter in November (though I probably should
  168. include "Babylon Squared" and "Chrysalis" in that same category...November is
  169. going to be the month we fry VCRs around the country).
  170. As well as appearing at ICON mid-April, I plan to be at the Chicago Comic
  171. Convention around July 1-3, and at San Diego ComicCon afterward.
  172. jms
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  175. Topic 2 Wed Nov 20, 1991
  176. STARR [Arne] at 19:41 EST
  177. Sub: Babylon 5 -- The Series!! >>SPOILERS<<
  178. Babylon 5 offically became a series on May 28 '93. There will be 22 hour eps
  179. for season one (in addition to the pilot). Airs Wednesdays at 8PM in most
  180. places starting Jan. 26 '94. This is the SPOILER topic where anything goes.
  181. 833 message(s) total.
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  184. Category 18, Topic 2
  185. Message 713 Wed Mar 16, 1994
  186. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:11 EST
  187. Longshot: it was a tip of the cap to the Prisoner, yes.
  188. Episodes are all in various stages of post-production; they come out
  189. helter-skelter, higgeldy-piggeldy, you name it. We're pretty much caught up
  190. on all the episodes filmed; we have to finalize editing on the two-parter,
  191. then edit the last episode, and that's done. A bunch of the others are still
  192. being scored, mixed, composited, you name it. So that's really a very hard
  193. question to answer. Just today finished editing on "Babylon Squared," which
  194. looks really cool, will mix "Signs and Portents" in two days, and finalized
  195. the mix on "The Quality of Mercy" today.
  196. jms
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  198. Category 18, Topic 2
  199. Message 767 Tue Mar 22, 1994
  200. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:02 EST
  201. Teaser, four acts, tag.
  202. jms
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  204. Category 18, Topic 2
  205. Message 789 Fri Mar 25, 1994
  206. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:39 EST
  207. Mike: see my comment in 19.
  208. There's some more fun between Garibaldi and Talia down the road, and one
  209. elevator scene in particular that I think you'll like.
  210. We've killed off all of Ivanova's close family, yes. Maybe some cousins
  211. are left, but that's about it.
  212. A little aside for you...at one point this season, Delenn goes to the
  213. Grey Council. There's a ritual she has to observe when she joins the ranks of
  214. the Nine. Part of it is this statement she makes upon entering the circle: "I
  215. am Grey. I stand between the candle, and the star. We are Grey. We stand
  216. between the darkness, and the light."
  217. jms
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  220. Topic 4 Tue Nov 03, 1992
  221. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:12 EST
  222. Sub: Babylon 5 - Cast & Characters
  223. For discussion of the actors who will be bringing BABYLON 5 to life with their
  224. performances...for information before, and discussion after the airing of "The
  225. Gathering" pilot.
  226. 439 message(s) total.
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  229. Category 18, Topic 4
  230. Message 418 Sun Mar 27, 1994
  231. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:41 EST
  232. I don't think Mira or her husband have that much direct communication
  233. with her countrypersons anymore. But that's an assumption based on some but
  234. not a lot of talk with her on this subject. Obviously it's a delicate
  235. subject.
  236. jms
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  238. Category 18, Topic 4
  239. Message 420 Mon Mar 28, 1994
  240. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:23 EST
  241. Episode 9 and a bunch of others are finished and delivered; have been for
  242. some time. The stations need to stretch episodes through the November sweeps,
  243. hence staggered reruns.
  244. jms
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  246. Category 18, Topic 4
  247. Message 433 Thu Mar 31, 1994
  248. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:28 EST
  249. Well, I'd love to try to get Patrick McGoohan again...we'll have more
  250. appearances by Koenig, of course...possible we'll see Christopher Neame again
  251. (he said mysteriously)...I'd like to use Robert Vaughn, Robert Culp, and even
  252. some actors without Robert as their first name. If I applied a real wish-
  253. list, it wouldn't do any good, since the actors I'd love most to use are way
  254. beyond TV syndication prices (Edward Woodward, for instance). I'd kinda love
  255. to drag Bill Windom over from M,SW to do a quick episode for us. Tom Baker,
  256. definitely. I've spoken to Colin Baker about the possibility, and that could
  257. probably be arranged easily enough. Anyway, a lot of it depends on the
  258. scripts, and on schedules. So we'll see....
  259. jms
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  262. Topic 13 Mon Nov 23, 1992
  263. T.ORTH [Mr. Rico] at 21:00 EST
  264. Sub: Babylon 5 - Science & Technology
  265. Jump gates, nanotech, high-tech weapons, starship drives, sound in space, and
  266. other subjects of science and technology in Babylon 5.
  267. 596 message(s) total.
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  270. Category 18, Topic 13
  271. Message 573 Mon Mar 21, 1994
  272. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 19:44 EST
  273. I dunno...that's an *awful* big cruiser, given the specs. The thing to
  274. bear in mind is that in space, you don't really have a reference point. So if
  275. something is in the foreground, it can look large against the background (the
  276. cruiser), making the cruiser look small. (It's the same effect as holding a
  277. tennis ball in front of your eye, and using it to block out the sun; the
  278. tennis ball isn't bigger than the sun, it's a matter of where you're
  279. standing.) Sinclair's ship is a LONG ways from the cruiser when last you see
  280. it. That maw is a massive launch area. It's really *huge*. Perhaps you'll
  281. get a better understanding of how big it is in a certain later episode, where
  282. you'll be able to see a single ship entering the maw *at* the maw itself,
  283. which should put it all into the correct perspective.
  284. jms
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  286. Category 18, Topic 13
  287. Message 575 Tue Mar 22, 1994
  288. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:14 EST
  289. Will look into some new gifs soonest....
  290. jms
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  293. Topic 23 Fri Feb 12, 1993
  294. V.VAIDY1 [Vijay] at 23:00 EST
  295. Sub: "OtherWorks" by JMS
  296. Before there was "B5" and when "JMS" was just another Plain Joe, there was
  297. OtherSyde
  298. [A discussion of the other works of J. Michael Straczynski]
  299. 168 message(s) total.
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  302. Category 18, Topic 23
  303. Message 163 Mon Mar 21, 1994
  304. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:55 EST
  305. I wrote a total of, as I recall, 12 or so episodes of new TZ. Some of
  306. the better ones of mine include "The Mind of Simon Foster" (which you noted),
  307. "Dream Me a Life," "Special Service," "Acts of Terror" and "Rendezvous in a
  308. Dark Place."
  309. jms
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  311. Category 18, Topic 23
  312. Message 166 Sat Mar 26, 1994
  313. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:04 EST
  314. Yep; the Zone with Skerrit was mine, and all the CBS TZs were edited to
  315. fit into the half-hour slot.
  316. jms
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  318. Category 18, Topic 23
  319. Message 168 Sun Mar 27, 1994
  320. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:43 EST
  321. Thanks; that one came out pretty well, actually.
  322. jms
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  325. Topic 24 Fri Jun 04, 1993
  326. J.ROY18 [Jonathan] at 21:11 EDT
  327. Sub: Babylon 5 - Weapons and Warfare!
  328. For discussion about the weapons, counter weapons, armor, shielding, tactics,
  329. logistics, and so forth, of small combat and large scale war in the Babylon 5
  330. universe.
  331. 545 message(s) total.
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  334. Category 18, Topic 24
  335. Message 504 Mon Mar 21, 1994
  336. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:57 EST
  337. It's 23E, yes. And the ships have been somewhat upgraded, but the basic
  338. configuration remains. Also, after the war, a LOT of the EA's fleet was wiped
  339. out, so it's been a very slow process of putting out new ships. Even B5 isn't
  340. completely armed as of this time; they'll be getting in their final squadron,
  341. Zeta Squadron, in "Survivors." (Right now all they have are Delta and Alpha
  342. flights.) The budget is very tight.
  343. jms
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  345. Category 18, Topic 24
  346. Message 513 Wed Mar 23, 1994
  347. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:31 EST
  348. Correct; the fighters enter via the main docking bay, are lowered into
  349. maintainance bays, repaired/recharged, then set back in place. You will see a
  350. goodly portion of this in "Survivors."
  351. And the Narns didn't really have the resources for an invasion of Earth
  352. at that time.
  353. Nor would much be gained, either.
  354. jms
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  357. Topic 25 Fri Mar 12, 1993
  358. S.SHELLENBAR [>> SHANE <<] at 08:47 EST
  359. Sub: J. Michael Straczynski Speaks in Public
  360. This is the place to find out where and when JMS will be appearing next. JMS
  361. has honed his skills as a public speaker and is taking his act on the road.
  362. 434 message(s) total.
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  365. Category 18, Topic 25
  366. Message 434 Wed Mar 23, 1994
  367. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:32 EST
  368. Saturday, April 2nd, Burbank Airport Hilton, 2:00, appearing at Phil and
  369. Ed's convention.
  370. jms
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  373. Topic 3 Sat Oct 16, 1993
  374. STARR [Arne] at 10:43 EDT
  375. Sub: The Gathering -- the pilot film
  376. This topic is for discussion of the 2 hour pilot film.
  377. 104 message(s) total.
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  380. Category 19, Topic 3
  381. Message 99 Wed Mar 16, 1994
  382. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:01 EST
  383. Kosh was the only occupant that we know of, and the ship is still there,
  384. except when he takes it out on occasion.
  385. jms
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  388. Topic 4 Sat Oct 16, 1993
  389. STARR [Arne] at 10:46 EDT
  390. Sub: Midnight on the Firing Line (#103)
  391. The first episode of the new series appearing in late January.
  392. 197 message(s) total.
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  395. Category 19, Topic 4
  396. Message 192 Wed Mar 23, 1994
  397. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:21 EST
  398. The fighters are launched from the cobra bays. The cobra bays rotate.
  399. jms
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  401. Category 19, Topic 4
  402. Message 195 Thu Mar 24, 1994
  403. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:52 EST
  404. No comment.
  405. jms
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  408. Topic 9 Sat Oct 16, 1993
  409. STARR [Arne] at 22:58 EDT
  410. Sub: And the Sky Full of Stars (#106)
  411. by JMS. Time to find out about Sinclair's "hole in his mind".
  412. 216 message(s) total.
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  415. Category 19, Topic 9
  416. Message 32 Wed Mar 16, 1994
  417. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:44 EST
  418. What? Who, me? Near as I remember, the Question was, "What happened at
  419. the Battle of the Line?" Answer: Sinclair was taken aboard the Minbari
  420. cruiser, tortured, interrogated, mind-wiped and shoved back into his ship.
  421. The Question *now* is, "WHY was Sinclair taken aboard the Minbari
  422. cruiser, tortured, interrogated, mind-wiped and shoved back into his ship?"
  423. That question was not asked heretofore...so how could it be still
  424. unanswered?
  425. jm(who took two semesters of Logic in college)s
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  427. Category 19, Topic 9
  428. Message 34 Wed Mar 16, 1994
  429. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:34 EST
  430. Nope. You can't string folks along that long. A goodly portion of it
  431. will be out by season's end. Not all, but a *lot*.
  432. jms
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  434. Category 19, Topic 9
  435. Message 58 Thu Mar 17, 1994
  436. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:01 EST
  437. Goodman: the CGI won't look as good in slow motion because we step-
  438. printed them deliberately, in order to give them a more dream-like appearance.
  439. For us, this wasn't about the ships, it was about one of the men in the ship,
  440. which is why we kept him in sharp focus, and went to step-printing whenever we
  441. went outside (and since we're seeing this from his memory, clearly he wouldn't
  442. actually have *seen* most of this, it's his *sense* of what happened). You'll
  443. get plenty of clear CGI in "Signs and Portents," airing in May.
  444. jms
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  446. Category 19, Topic 9
  447. Message 79 Fri Mar 18, 1994
  448. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:10 EST
  449. Some random thoughts:
  450. I would *never* pull a "he wakes up and it was all a dream" on the
  451. series. I hate that kind of story.
  452. There's more in that newspaper than meets the eye....
  453. Note in the episode that when Sinclair's wheeled down the hall, still in
  454. his uniform, he's not bloodied up. But is later.
  455. This is, as stated, one of my favorites from this season. (And the
  456. person behind the lighting is the same one behind all the episodes, John
  457. Flinn, our cinematographer, working with Janet Greek, our director.) I would
  458. put at this approximate level (some better, some as good) the following
  459. episodes (for varying reasons): "By Any Means Necessary," "Babylon Squared,"
  460. "Signs and Portents," "A Voice in the Wilderness," and of course "Chrysalis."
  461. jms
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  463. Category 19, Topic 9
  464. Message 137 Tue Mar 22, 1994
  465. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:10 EST
  466. What will be revealed over the course of the series? All of it.
  467. By the time the series has run its five-year course (Neilsen willing),
  468. there will only be ONE unanswered question left: "NOW what?"
  469. jms
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  471. Category 19, Topic 9
  472. Message 143 Wed Mar 23, 1994
  473. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 14:45 EST
  474. The platform is the zero-g cargo area; you'll see it in more detail later
  475. in the season.
  476. jms
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  478. Category 19, Topic 9
  479. Message 162 Fri Mar 25, 1994
  480. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:35 EST
  481. Let me just offer an observation here.
  482. A number of people have commented that they weren't much surprised by
  483. Sinclair being taken aboard, because on the nets -- and this has ONLY taken
  484. place on the nets -- this speculation has been bandied about for some time.
  485. We now have ten zillion speculations on the reason *why*. I will not comment
  486. on them one way or another (though I suppose I could point, without making the
  487. real comparison between types of typists, to the idea that an infinte number
  488. of monkeys typing on an infinite number of keyboards would eventually produce
  489. Hamlet simply by chance combination; sooner or later, something close to the
  490. reality might be stumbled upon...and let me ask a simple question: what
  491. purpose does that serve? It only lessens the enjoyment of those who would
  492. simply like to enjoy what happens WHEN it happens).
  493. Any good detective knows that you can't really begin to speculate about
  494. motive until you have all the information right at hand. At this point there
  495. is information you don't have...and absent that, any guesses will either be
  496. wrong, or close enough to hinder the fun but still essentially incorrect.
  497. It's like trying to guess the contents of a box without knowing the size of
  498. the box...it could be a marble, it could be an elephant or a pre-fabricated
  499. house.
  500. All I'm suggesting is that you consider not trying to come up with every
  501. possible angle, and let the show progress on its own. Right now everybody
  502. seems to be scrambling to make sure every even remotely feasible possibility
  503. is covered, and there an infinite number. As an organized activity, this will
  504. in time only prove frustrating. By the end of the season, as with being near
  505. the end of a movie, you'll have enough info on hand to start making some
  506. educated guesses. To do so now is to begin the process of calling out
  507. possible endings during the first five minutes of a movie...you'll miss the
  508. important things, and annoy the people sitting behind you.
  509. I'm not saying stop; I'm just saying...relax, a little, I guess, and
  510. simply be aware that you *cannot* scatter-shot this thing without having
  511. access to all the information. It's like trying to guess the beginnings of
  512. World War One without knowing *any* of the background of the countries
  513. involved. Suffice to say that the reason would not be simplistic, or cliched,
  514. or *easily deduced*. One thing I learned in two years on "Murder, She Wrote"
  515. was to come up with a fairly complex mystery, something that can't be easily
  516. solved going in, but which makes perfect sense after you have all the facts
  517. and know which clues were the real ones, and which were simply red herrings.
  518. Just a thought....
  519. jms
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  521. Category 19, Topic 9
  522. Message 170 Sat Mar 26, 1994
  523. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:42 EST
  524. It's not so much story ideas (though I suppose there is some validity to
  525. that point) as...I dunno...just seeing one speculation after another after
  526. another, going through every conceivable possibility and
  527. combination...granted, some is inevitable, it was just the systematic and
  528. extremely...*energetic* hammering that made me wonder if this might not end up
  529. hindering people's enjoyment of the show and its revelations rather than
  530. assisting it.
  531. jms
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  533. Category 19, Topic 9
  534. Message 178 Sat Mar 26, 1994
  535. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 19:58 EST
  536. There are no apologies to be made, and I do understand, that's the point.
  537. I was just echoing the comments just preceding this one. Which is all I'll
  538. say on it henceforth. Just trying to help.
  539. jms
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  541. Category 19, Topic 9
  542. Message 191 Sun Mar 27, 1994
  543. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:36 EST
  544. The episode of "Mind War" broadcast henceforth will be the one with
  545. slight alteration.
  546. What's the difference between a story idea and a speculation...eek. The
  547. problem with this whole discussion -- perhaps the main problem -- is the
  548. fuzziness, because it *hasn't been defined yet*. We are now in the OF
  549. defining it via this exchange. It's what a person might choose to sue over.
  550. And there's no way to quantify or predict that.
  551. I do think there's *some* difference between the two. I think that
  552. primary way this discussion can get into trouble is in the level of detail.
  553. It's pretty much impossible to sue for a brief *idea*; but the more elaborate
  554. a suggestion or speculation gets, the more points of potential comparison
  555. emerge, and the greater the liability. "See, your honor? My speculation on
  556. what happened contained 57 specific plot points, and what Straczynski later
  557. produced had 54 of those points. I submit that he saw what I wrote, decided
  558. it was better, stole my idea, and took it for his own!"
  559. Bottom line...I only got into this discussion, really, because I didn't
  560. want people futilely spinning their wheels, because minus the 4 or 5 main plot
  561. points you don't have yet, it's nearly impossible to guess what's going on.
  562. It's like trying to determine who committed a murder when all you've been told
  563. is that there's a dead body...not when it was committed, or where, or how the
  564. person died, or what clues were found, or where all the suspects were at the
  565. time. My primary concern was in not letting the frustration level get too
  566. high. The other matter was tangential.
  567. But since it has come up...again, I'd say that the main point of
  568. differentiation is in the level of complexity. The longer and more detailed
  569. the speculation, new histories for characters, new behind the scenes stuff,
  570. plot complications, motivations, on and on -- the more something is built that
  571. one could sue over.
  572. This is a very difficult area, and there are all kinds of ways that it
  573. can bite you. Over on CIS, for instance, Paramount came down on a series of
  574. messages with speculative plot info on ST 7 with lawyers and in injunction and
  575. major-leage threats against the people involved, CIS itself and anyone else
  576. they could think of. We're trying to find a more personable way of handling
  577. this situation. And for the most part, I think we're doing fine. But every so
  578. often this little issue raises its ugly head, and has to be dealt with.
  579. jms
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  581. ************
  582. Topic 10 Sat Oct 16, 1993
  583. STARR [Arne] at 22:59 EDT
  584. Sub: The War Prayer (#107)
  585. by Dorothy Fontana.
  586. 95 message(s) total.
  587. ************
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  589. Category 19, Topic 10
  590. Message 83 Wed Mar 16, 1994
  591. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:05 EST
  592. It wasn't a reference to the Heinlein book, only to the historical use of
  593. that design. Re: the breather masks...in cases of riot, sometimes they pump
  594. in gas. Also, if they have to chase any of the aliens into the alien sector's
  595. alternate-atmosphere sections, they have to be wearing breathers. (Believe
  596. me, we had a *long* discussion about this.)
  597. jms
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  600. Topic 13 Sun Oct 17, 1993
  601. STARR [Arne] at 15:15 EDT
  602. Sub: Mind War (#110)
  603. by JMS. Co-Starring Walter Koenig.
  604. 206 message(s) total.
  605. ************
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  607. Category 19, Topic 13
  608. Message 202 Wed Mar 16, 1994
  609. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:06 EST
  610. "Commander" wasn't dubbed onto Walter. That was Ironheart speaking with
  611. his back to us.
  612. jms
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