IdeaLogging <[[Brennen]]> There is this (Libertarian and Objectivist, I guess) notion that while one may use force to act in self-defense, one should never ''initiate'' the use of force against another. Sort of a CategoricalImperative, maybe? See, frex, [http://www.capitalism.org/faq/force.htm Force, Coercion, and Capitalism - Why is the initiation of force banned under Capitalism?] on capitalism.org. Their tag line is "Capitalism is the social system based on the principle of individual rights.", so you know pretty much what side their bread is buttered on. IronyIsNotDead.