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								<h2><a name="OV">Overview</a></h2>


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								The station becomes a hotbed of galactic controversy when

								Sinclair is forced to protect a notorious war criminal -- a

								scientist who's invented an immortality serum.  Ambassador Kosh hires

								telepath Talia Winters to oversee a very unusual negotiation.

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								<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Douglas,+Sarah">Sarah Douglas</a> as Deathwalker/Jha'Dur.

								<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Curtis,+Robin">Robin Curtis</a> as Ambassador Kalika.

								<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Costa,+Cosie">Cosie Costa</a> as Abbut.

								<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Aleong,+Aki">Aki Aleong</a> as Senator Hidoshi.

								</blockquote>


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								Sub-genre: Intrigue

								<a href="/lurk/p5/intro.html">P5 Rating</a>: <a href="/lurk/p5/009">8.21</a>


								Production number: 113

								Original air date: April 20, 1994

								<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006HAZ4/thelurkersguidet">DVD release date</a>: November 5, 2002


								Written by Larry DiTillio

								Directed by Bruce Seth Green

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								<h2><a name="BP">Backplot</a></h2>


								<ul>

								   <li> The League of Non-Aligned Worlds and the Earth Alliance are allies,

									thanks in large part to Earth's intervention while the League was

									being devastated by the Dilgar thirty years earlier.  JMS says, "The

									Dilgar War was one of the first conflicts that the EA got into, soon

									after establishing a presence in space.  We mainly entered it to try

									and make a 'rep' for ourselves, then got more morally involved when we

									saw what was going on.  That and the Minbari War are the only real major

									conflicts Earth has been involved with, and Earth was not directly at

									risk in the Dilgar war, though if they hadn't been stopped, that might

									have changed eventually."

								   <li> The Vorlons have a strong distrust of telepaths.

								   <li> The Minbari warrior castes know about the hole in Sinclair's mind.

								</ul>


								<h2><a name="UQ">Unanswered Questions</a></h2>


								<ul>

								   <li> What do the Vorlons know about immortality?

								   <li> Why don't they like (non-Vorlon) telepaths?

								   <li> Is this the last we'll hear about the immortality serum, or did Dr.

									Franklin keep the sample he was testing?  (JMS has hinted that it's

									not a simple plot device which'll never be mentioned again.)

								   <li> Why do the Wind Swords speak often of Sinclair?  What do they know

									about what happened to him?

								</ul>


								<h2><a name="AN">Analysis</a></h2>

								<UL>

								  <LI>  Na'Toth's grandfather had the misfortune to be on a planet that Jha'dur

									took, and her misuse of him is the source of Na'Toth's feud, yet the

									Narn seem to give the incident no particular weight.  What world this

									was is not disclosed, but either it wasn't a Narn colony, and Na'Toth's

									grandfather was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, or it was

									a Narn colony and the incident was smoothed over at the time.  Evidence

									seems to point to the former, but it's unclear.


								<p>

								  <LI>  Jha'dur is a specialist in, "biochemical, biogenetic, and cyber-organic

									weaponry." During the Dilgar invasion of the "non-aligned sectors" she

									decimated whole planets to further her own research.  Presumably the

									other Dilgar were equally vicious and callous.  She seems to be

									especially notorious though, known by name 30 years after the event,

									perhaps because her biological experiments seem especially horrible.


								<p>

								  <LI>  At the time of the Dilgar war humanity was fresh on the interstellar

									political scene, having been discovered and given jumpgate/hyperspace

									technology by the Centauri.  The non-aligned worlds seem to be

									relatively low-tech, and they were being overrun by the Dilgar in a

									particularly ruthless bid for an empire.  Earth's entry into the

									conflict turned the tide against the Dilgar,  leading to the race's

									confinement to their own system and their ultimate destruction when

									their sun went nova.


								<p>

								  <LI>  Jha'dur was shielded and hidden by the Minbari Wind Swords, members of

									their warrior caste, at the close of the Dilgar war 30 years ago.  The

									Minbari didn't encounter humans until about 20 years later, at which

									time the first contact went bad and initiated the Earth-Minbari war.

									Up until now it seemed that neither side knew of the other, but how

									could the Minbari have aided and supported Jha-dur for 20 years without

									learning of Earth?  Moreover, when the Minbari are debating

									their response to the loss of their leader the Wind Swords arrive on

									the scene with new, very powerful weapons.  Presumably much of the

									Minbari arsenal of weapons and ships derives from designs given them

									by Jha'dur.  The circumstances

									of the first contact problem between the Minbari and the Humans may

									also indicate that it was the result of a plot by Jha'dur for revenge

									on those who (at least indirectly) destroyed her race.


								<p>

								  <LI>  The serum designed by Jha'dur is insidious, requiring something

									critical from living beings to make.  It's unclear whether this same

									process would be applicable to every species, or whether the same

									serum could be used across species.  But in any case it was designed,

									perhaps intentionally, to cause a great deal of harm when used.


								<p>

								  <LI>  Just what benefit the Wind Swords derived from her research is

									unstated.  Note, however, that she has (a) been permitted by the Wind

									Swords to use up enough living entities to pursue her research, and

									(b) used at least one dose on herself with

									some amount left over.  She has also been permitted to leave to

									negotiate with the Narn, her first entry into public view since the war.


								<p>

								  <LI>  Senator Hidoshi calls Sinclair while Jha'dur is still in medlab.

									He insists that Jha'dur cannot be Deathwalker, but also insists that

									she be sent to Earth immediately.  Still, he clearly knows all about

									the situation, which implies that he has sources of information both

									on B5 and perhaps among the Minbari or the Narn.


								<p>

								  <LI>  Talia Winters has an interesting time with Kosh during this episode.

									Here we see the first of a known class of people called "vicars,"

									short for "VCRs."  These people are human recorders, capable of

									recording sensory and environmental information for later playback

									through devices directly implanted in their brains.

									This demonstrates a very high degree of possible integration between

									people and computers at the time of B5.  How common this is and how

									sophisticated it can be has yet to be seen.


								<p>

								  <LI>  Is Kosh a telepath?  During the interviews between Kosh and Abbut (the

									vicar) Talia is occasionally goaded with an image dredged up from her

									mind.  Clearly these are not her own thoughts, and clearly Abbut cannot

									be the source since human telepaths are regulated.  That only leaves

									Kosh him(it?)self.  Yet Talia doesn't seem to have any hint that Kosh

									is doing this to her.  If Kosh is a telepath, what other abilities

									does he have?  And if he is a telepath, and the cause of Talia's

									distress, what did he need the vicar for?  It seems clear that

									the byplay between Kosh and Abbut was intended as misdirection, to

									divert, bore and confuse her leaving her open for Kosh to penetrate

									her shields and stimulate the images he collected.


								<p>

								  <li>  Kosh collects from Talia, in his words, "Reflection.  Surprise.

									Terror.  For the future."  He may intend the data as a lever or weapon

									against her.


								</UL>


								<h2><a name="JS">jms speaks</a></h2>

								<ul>


								   <li> The Hour of Scampering is usually around tea-time, according to the

									Vorlon/Human Translation Dictionary.


								<p>

								   <li> <em>How do Vorlons scamper?</em><br>

									The Vorlons do not scamper terribly well, but no one has yet told

									them this.


								<p>

								   <li>@@@834863442 <em>"Understanding is a three-edged sword."</em><br>

									The three edges: your side, my side, and the truth in between.


								<p>

								   <li> Your statement about the serum being a means of getting to the truth or

									her truth at the very least is quite correct. And appropos to current

									reality. We look back at the Nazis, and others, and say, "Well, WE

									could never do that." But of course we could. Fine tune your

									attention to the frequency of misery and inhumanity, and in short

									order you'll pick up Rwanda, and Bosnia and a host of others. Our

									capacity for greatness is as substantial as our capacity for evil.

									And we must constantly be reminded of that duality; to pretend it

									simply isn't there, or is somebody else's problem, inevitably leads

									to tragedy. (For those interested, btw, I would encourage you to

									check out a short story by Mark Twain, called "The Man Who Corrupted

									Hadleyburg." I think you will find it *most* illuminating.)


								<p>

								   <li> Abbut was not - repeat, NOTan imitation of Harlan, as some have

									suggested. It was originally written for Gilbert Gottfried, who we later

									learned was unavailable.


								<p>

								   <li> The Babylon 5 Advisory Council and the League of Non-Aligned Worlds

									functions in much the same fashion as the Security Council and the

									General Assembly in the U.N.  The smaller worlds and alliances can't

									weild as much power as any of the Big Five.  Together, they as a

									group get a vote equal to one of the Big Five; they can deputize one

									of their number to speak for them and cast that vote, which can often

									break ties or create ties.  It is not a terribly equitible situation,

									but it was the only workable solution that would be accepted by the

									other Ambassadors.  We'll see them chafing at this in "Deathwalker."


								<p>

								   <li> The prosthetics on our background aliens and the League started out

									okay, but we felt we could do better, and began a series of

									improvements, which can be seen most clearly in "Deathwalker," where

									they're all proper prosthetics rather than masks.


								<p>

								   <li> We didn't have the League of Non-Aligned Worlds up and running for

									the pilot.  They get one vote, determined by majority decision.  EAch

									mamber of the main Advisory Council gets one vote, equal to that.


									In "Deathwalker," you had one abstention (Kosh), two to try her

									(EA and League), and three against the trial (Narns, Centauri and

									Minbari).  Abstentions don't count either way in such a vote; it's the

									negatives vs. the positives, and there were more no's than yes's.


								<p>

								   <li> You assume the crowd meeting Sinclair could be placated.  They make it

									clear, in dialogue: "You will have to kill us all."  They could not BE

									placated.  Your assumption has nothing to do with what happened, or

									what was said.  Maybe in the ST universe, Picard can turn on the charm

									and just talk people out of things.  That doesn't happen here, not

									easily at any rate.  It was turn back or kill them.  Those were the

									choices.


								<p>

								   <li> As far as we knew, Lennier was going to vote with Sinclair and the

									League.  So you hold off his change of vote for the end.  You get a

									few no votes, annoy the League, Sinclair raises their hope, and then

									Lennier, much as he hates it, dashes that hope.  It's an arc that way,

									rather than a descending staircase.


								<p>

								   <li> Except of course that Sinclair said that the non-aligned worlds would

									have observers there at all times...there are no other Dilgar to help

									break her out...the Narns have no desire to attack Earth installations

									to break her out as long as they get their share of the serum...and

									there really was no other alternative short of war.


								<p>

								   <li> There's no one escaping Deathwalker's ship; it's just debris spinning

									away.  She's dead as a mackeral.


								<p>

								   <li> Just to clarify...the Vorlon ship destroyed only Deathwalker's ship,

									not an EA vessel.  And the Vorlon ship waited until Deathwalker's

									ship was far from B5, just before entering the gate, before coming out

									to strike.   At that range, it couldn't miss, and at that distance,

									B5 couldn't react fast enough.


								<p>

								   <li> The EA escort got her as far as the gate.  Then peeled away.  And then

									the Vorlon ship came out.  That's what Sinlair said: "They will escort

									you as far as the gate."  And even if they had stayed with her THROUGH

									the gate, it would've made no difference.  Vorlon ship comes through.

									Fires at Deathwalker's ship.  EA ships fire back.  No visible effect,

									the cruiser shrugs it off and goes back the way it came.  Single

									Starfuries wouldn't even *dent* a Vorlon cruiser.  So same result.


								<p>

								   <li> Sinclair was taught by Jesuits...and as far as Kosh goes, better to

									have him where you can see him, than not.  They *are* a powerful

									group, and it wouldn't serve to ignore them.  We courted them for 10

									years for a first contact...and now we're stuck with them.


								<p>

								   <li> Jim, your thesis comes from the underlying assumption that, as in the

									Trek universe, All Things Must Be Done Fairly, the government must in

									the end be wise and fair and sensible.


									<p>

									That ain't our universe.  That ain't even *this* universe.


									<p>

									Sinclair must follow orders.  He didn't want to escort Deathwalker off

									and on to Earth, those were his marching orders.  *The same marching

									orders would be given to an ambassador representing Earth*.  So your

									career diplomat would be in exactly the same position.  What, do you

									think that career diplomats are independent agents of goodness?  They

									all work for SOMEone, representing their interests.


									<p>

									Earth put in the majority of the money required to build and operate

									B5.  They have the right, as such, to appoint a provisional governor,

									nad (and) that is the function that Sinclair mainly serves.  He runs

									this place, AND he is responsible for maintaining good relations with

									other representatives.  He is also on a short leash.  And in some

									cases, as in "By Any Means Necessary," other people are sent in to

									handle certain kinds of negotiations.


									<p>

									Yes, it is a conflict of interest.  So what?  Do you think Earth cares

									much about that?  Is it awkward?  Yes, of course.  It *should* put him

									in moral quandries.  The Earth Government is constantly getting him

									into binds.  What they wanted him to do in "Deathwalker" was more or

									less of a dubious nature.  But in the end, he found a fairly moral

									solution to the problem.  That's what he does.  He finds anhonorable

									way out of very difficult and morally ambiguous situations.  What you

									suggest is that we remove the moral ambiguities.  Ehhh.  I find that

									boring as hell.


									<p>

									Do the other species like it?  Of course not.  Okay, so what're they

									going to do?  Boycott B5?  And let other species take advantage of all

									the economic and political benefits the station provides?  Let others

									grow in familiarity and form alliances that might in time turn against

									them?  Not a chance.  Fair or not, it's the only game in town.


									<p>

									So I don't buy your solution because I don't think it's a problem.

									You do.  That's life.  Political situations are rarely fair, or

									logical, or ethical.  If politics were based on ethics this would be

									a MUCH better world.  But politics are generally based on who has the

									power, and the money, and the guts.


								<p>

								   <li> The Dilgar War was one of the first conflicts that the EA got into,

									soon after establishing a presence in space.  We mainly entered it to

									try and make a "rep" for ourselves, then got more morally involved

									when we saw what was going on.  That and the Minbari War are the only

									real major conflicts Earth has been involved with, and Earth was not

									directly at risk in the Dilgar war, though if they hadn't been stopped,

									that might have changed eventually.


								<p>

								   <li>@@@846702265 <em>Have we seen the last of the Dilgar?</em><br>

									They're dead as doornails.


								<p>

								   <li> And yes, the Windswords were the warrior clan involved in the events

									in "The Gathering."


								<p>

								   <li> Talia, like all Psi Corps members, wears gloves because she has to,

									when in public, to minimize physical contact and accidental scans.

									As for others wearing gloves...sometimes it's a fashion statement

									... and other times, well, space is very very cold....


								<p>

								   <li> Abbut was screwing around when he said "I'm a 23 myself," just

									messing with her.


								<p>

								   <li> "Kosh's voice-the rumblings and bells and stuff, not the translation-

									seemed to be missing a lot of the lower tones and bass that I

									remembered hearing previously."


									<p>

									He had a cold.


								<p>

								   <li> "It also adds another piece of miracle tech never to be seen again."

									<p>

									Wrong.

									<p>

									In point of fact, virtually *none* of the new tech stuff is just

									gone...you'd be surprised what'll be showing up again down the road

									a piece....


								<p>

								   <li> Re: B5's roster of strong women characters...this is something of a

									bugaboo/obsession with me.  I *love* writing strong women.  (For that

									matter, I love strong-willed, independent, smart women in real life

									as well; I love being outsmarted, love it when someone can go toe-to-

									toe with me on something.)  Generally, and this isn't entirely

									intentional, women on shows I work on tend to get some of the best

									lines, as is often the case with Ivanova.  It's not a case of being

									"one of the boys," but being one of the *people*.  There's a subtle

									difference.

									<p>

									The women I write are often very close to many of the women I've been

									involved with over the years.  So far, no one's sued....


								</ul>


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								Compiled by Dave Zimmerman

								and Steven Grimm.