JMS Usenet messages for November 1996.
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								Date: 1 Nov 1996 23:07:17 -0500
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								Subject: joe's heart (from jms)
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								Honestly, people...I can't believe anyone still falls for this stuff.
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								So there I was, over in the editing bays (away from the B5 stages),
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								editing 406, merrily nipping and tucking and rearranging, when a phone
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								call comes from the stage.  In a harrassed voice, the person on the other
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								end explains that they have been flooded with calls asking about a rumor
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								that I'd passed out on the way to work and had been taken to the hospital
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								with a heart attack.
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								C'mon, people...this is the oldest gag in the book.  It's been done to
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								Harlan, Walter, Jimmy Doohan (which makes me thing a ST person is behind
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								this) and others.  
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								Lemme put it to you this way: if anything should ever happen to me, you
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								will never have to hear about it from someone else, or a rumor.  I have
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								people here who will post the information, and all pertinent details,
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								direct from Babylonian on my behalf.  If you hear this sort of nonsense
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								from anyone else, you can totally ignore it.
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								And to the person who says he "heard it:" you obviously did not hear
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								anything of the kind, and you made it up deliberately to cause trouble. 
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								If you did hear it from someone else, let's hear a name.  If not, then you
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								are to be held responsible for this.  And, frankly, for the grief caused
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								to the set, the stage, and many other people who called out of concern,
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								the person responsible for this is less than a creep.  This is just
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								another form of interneterrorism.
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								Date: 3 Nov 1996 01:06:52 -0500
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								Subject: Re: Sorry! (jms in hospital)
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								James: let me explain why what you did was a Bad Thing.  And let me now
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								proceed to bust your chops over this.
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								A rumor like that is started for only one reason: to hurt.  By passing it
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								along, you compound the problem.  You become the instrument of their
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								assault.  Too many people have a tendency to take what they see on the
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								nets as either true, or worth investigating, and they then pass it on to
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								the next net, and the next net...it becomes a kind of interactive virus,
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								spreading further.
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								The result: the small staff at Babylonian were harried with endless
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								numbers of phone calls.  People got annoyed.  Time was wasted.  I got
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								pulled out of editing to deal with this.  I spent several *hours* last
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								night tracking this down and posting messages to other systems putting
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								people's minds to rest.  Hours that could (and should) have been spent
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								writing.  Very close friends of mine overseas and elsewhere saw this and
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								panicked, some were deeply emotionally upset, and would like to get your
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								throat someplace near their fingers for posting this in the first place.  
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								Make no mistake: though it was not your intent, *you did harm*.  As does
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								anyone who takes what some jerk says in IRC or elsewhere like this and
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								reposts it without doing the least amount of checking.  And don't take the
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								"I wanted more information" line with me, James.  You want information,
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								all you have to do is send email to the moderators of this forum, who can
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								call the stage, and find out.  Then you have your answer, real easy. 
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								Instead what you did was the effect of lobbing a hand grenade into a herd
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								of horses.  
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								So don't blame the other person.  You posted the original message, and
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								added two more "clarifications" to it that were equally bogus.  You
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								started the stampede.
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								"Sorry" doesn't cut it.  "Sorry" doesn't restore the lost hours of work,
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								the annoyed employees, or placate the friends of mine who you deeply
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								distressed.
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								Never, ever, ever do this to me again.  
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								Or I will be most upset.
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								You wouldn't like me when I'm upset, James.
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								Date: 3 Nov 1996 19:54:32 -0500
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Censorship and "Wolf" (no spoilers)
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								"In "The Hour of the Wolf" there are two scenes -- you know which ones --
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								that seemed quite a departure from what one usually sees on TV.  Did you
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								write "Wolf" before or after your revelation that you were not bound by
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								Standards and Practices.  'Cause if you wrote this *before*, then we're in
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								for quite a ride."
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								Aside from the desk scene, which was the other you're referring to?
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								Oh...and the answer is...before.
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								Hang on.  It's going to be a bumpy night.
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								Date: 4 Nov 1996 19:54:46 -0500
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								Subject: Re: ATTN:JMS:Newsweek and E-Mail
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								Darn, I was going to look for that one today and I forgot....
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								Yeah, we're a fully wired show.  Scary, innit...?
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								Date: 4 Nov 1996 19:55:19 -0500
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								Subject: Re: Hour of the Wolf (NitPick :)
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								The ships provided by Delenn are White Star class ships, hence the useage.
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								Date: 5 Nov 1996 08:16:51 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN:JMS thanks from a new viewer
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								"Does it hurt to give birth to an entire universe?"
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								Not really, but the post-partum depression is a bitch.
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								Date: 5 Nov 1996 08:18:06 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Great Book!! Thanks!
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								Thanks.  The script is a good example of how things work,and how the
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								writer forms what the director does.
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								I'll try to stop by Bix...it's just the pace of so much stuff makes it
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								hard.
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								Date: 5 Nov 1996 08:22:38 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: The lost hours of work and the worried people as a result of THE RUMOR
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								"As much as you hate to admit it, you're an important person, not just out
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								there, but in the lives -- right there, in our faces, guiding us for a
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								small, or large part of the day -- in the lives of millions of people.  We
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								care about you enough to cause chaos.  But it's not any one person's
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								fualt."
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								I'm not important.  The story, yes, maybe...but not me.
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								James was the one who initially posted it, having been exposed to the one
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								person in IRC who wanted to do this.  If B5 is about choices, consequences
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								and responsibility, we have to own up to making a choice to go public with
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								something rather than check it out, recognize that there are consequences
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								to other people when you do this, and then accept the responsibility for
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								those consequences.
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								"Quite frankly, when it comes to B5, I find that the people are a lot more
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								polite and honest than other 'netters, and I have come to trust people."
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								This part I agree with.  I can't tell you how often I've had convention
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								organizers, from Worldcon and elsewhere, tell me how pleasantly surprised
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								and pleased they were that the B5 fans were invariably well-spoken,
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								polite, intelligent, and friendly.  We've got a good rep, and I guess I
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								want to protect that.
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								Date: 6 Nov 1996 05:52:59 GMT
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								Subject: Re: JMS's "Complete Book of Scriptwriting"
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								The date stated obviously refers to the US, not to the UK.  The US
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								experiments in TV fell a bit by the wayside when the war hit.  Some
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								European communities kept at it.  But question: are you sure, when the BBC
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								refers to its founding in 1936, that they're not referring to BBC *radio*?
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								Date: 6 Nov 1996 08:11:51 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: your reading list?
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								I read him in college, but not much since then, I'm afraid.
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								Date: 8 Nov 1996 07:04:33 GMT
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								Subject: Re: B5 Filming/Studio Question
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								No, we don't film on the Warner Bros. lot, and we're not set up to do any
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								kind of tours.  
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								Date: 8 Nov 1996 07:06:25 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: B5 MIDI on Web Page?
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								I cannot give permission for *anything*, as the copyright is owned by
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								Warner Bros., not me.
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								Date: 8 Nov 1996 07:08:18 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: HourOTWolf CGI *No Spoilers*
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								The non-moving Centauri Prime shot is an original Foundation shot; the one
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								where it's moving (with the cruiser fly-bys) is the new one, and there's a
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								lot more detail now in the surface of the planet and other stuff.  
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								Date: 8 Nov 1996 07:11:54 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Questions About Scriptwriting Book
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								I debated long and hard about including a section about comics in the
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								script book, and finally opted against it, on several grounds.  1) I
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								wanted to specialize in performance-style scriptwriting, involving living
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								people, and 2) while I've written some comics, I don't feel enough of an
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								expert yet to set down my poor understanding in book form.
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								Date: 8 Nov 1996 07:38:54 GMT
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								Subject: Re: For JMS
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								Thanks, and good luck with your own writing.  Follow your passion; the
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								rest will take care of itself.
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								Date: 8 Nov 1996 23:08:05 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why is no one offended at BOTH old races?!?
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								"After watching Z'ha'dum and "Wolf"  (No spoilers here), my main thought
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								was basically,  who the hell are these old races who assume moral
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								superiority based on technical superiority?  How dare they interfere with
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								our development as a species just to suit their own petty needs? I wonder
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								if any character  on the show will take that same line of thought and
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								Well, until now, that's been primarily unknown to the other species.  Now,
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								thanks to Sheridan's trip to Z'ha'dum, and stuff coming up, that
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								information will start to get out.
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								So yeah, you may find someone or someones picking this thread up....
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								Date: 9 Nov 1996 06:19:18 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: WOLF reaction (no spoilers)
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								I seem to vaguely remember the title "It's a Very Nice Day," but will have
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								to work to connect it to a story.
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								And thanks...it's a good start to the season.
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								Date: 9 Nov 1996 22:56:49 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why the Theme Change?
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								We change the theme every season to reflect the tonaity and direction of
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								that season's story.  Every season when it butts up against the previous
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								season's intent, a lot of folks ask why change it, it was better
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								before...and then, by the end of the season, when people see how it fits
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								in, generally they like it a lot...and then ask why it got changed for the
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								*next* season....
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								Date: 9 Nov 1996 23:03:50 GMT
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								Subject: Re: New FX
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								"The first S4 episode (Hour of the Wolf) doesn't have nearly as many FX as
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								the later S3 episodes, and what is there is mostly stock shots of the
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								station rotating, etc."
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								There are as many CGI shots in "Wolf" as in most of our episodes, and more
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								than in "Rock," a later S3 episode.  There's also the new establishers of
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								Centauri Prime the planet, the revised Palace shots, new establishers of
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								the station, a big new shot of the interior of the Garden that pans down,
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								the beside-Z'ha'dum sequence...there's a LOT there.  So a) your latter
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								observation is, I gently point out, factually inaccurate, and b) most
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								station shots have been recycled stock since year one, adding new ones
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								each season then dropping them into rotation (so to speak).
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								We always balance big EFX shows with smaller ones, building up to some big
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								stuff.  We're doing the same thing here this year as we've ever done.
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								Date: 9 Nov 1996 23:05:26 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Hour of the Wolf: non-spoiler(?) question
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								There's more to Lorien than meets the eye.
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								Date: 10 Nov 1996 06:09:09 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: New Novels Known?
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								The first book is by Jeanne Cavellos, following Anna Sheridan and the
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								Icarus to Z'ha'dum; the second follows Vir and Londo to Centauri Prime at
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								the time of the events in these first six episode; and the third follows
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								Sinclair to Minbar after leaving B5 and setting up the rangers.  This time
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								out, I decided to assign out the stories, to make sure they were accurate
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								and in continuity.  The first one up may be the best to date, I'm 2/3rds
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								through it and haven't made a note yet.
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								Date: 10 Nov 1996 08:58:03 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Another Hour Nit...*minor spoiler*
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								"best I can tell from my (admittedly limited) knowledge of Centauri
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								physiology, he would have been looking in the wrong place - kinda like
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								looking down a human woman's socks, or something."
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								Tell that to a foot fetishist.
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								Date: 11 Nov 1996 06:53:55 GMT
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								They asked if they could borrow our sets, and we said sure...anything to
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								Date: 11 Nov 1996 03:57:14 GMT
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								It's definitely born, not borne.
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								Date: 11 Nov 1996 09:01:39 GMT
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								Date: 12 Nov 1996 20:42:51 GMT
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								Date: 13 Nov 1996 00:31:23 GMT
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								Understand...if there were going to be a video release, I'd be all over
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								Date: 12 Nov 1996 20:41:13 GMT
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								Thanks, and yes, there was a hint of Gene in her dialolgue about Turhan.
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								Date: 12 Nov 1996 20:37:41 GMT
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								Thanks.  The script was easy to write story-wise, I think it only took me
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								it comes to something like this...writing in white heat is best), but
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								Date: 13 Nov 1996 09:46:20 GMT
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								Yup, it's him.  He's also directing "Atonement" for us this season.\
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								Date: 13 Nov 1996 09:53:11 GMT
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								      1) Please do not send me inquiries about the storyline in private
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								email.  You may think, "Well, it's just me," but at last Neilsen count
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								there were about 15 million of you out there, and only one of me.  I can't
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								get into lengthy discussions about the plot or storylines in email.  I end
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								up answering the same questions multiple times, and the answers go to only
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								one person at a time.  If you have a story question, ASK IT IN A PUBLIC
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								FORUM, NOT IN EMAIL, so that others can benefit from the answers.
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								     (Here's where this gets silly.  Often, when I'm speaking at a
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								convention, I'll ask, at the end, "Any other questions?"  And nobody puts
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								their hands up, even though we've got a few minutes left.  Then, as soon
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								as the presentation is over, 50 people rush the stage with questions they
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								want to ask...many of them very good, and which the audience would've
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								loved to hear answered.  You tend to be a very smart, perceptive
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								was hit by a trojan horse and virus lately, and consequently I have a very
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								I'm swamped with 500 messages a day...if it doesn't have to be sent email,
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								or stories, will be met by stony silence.
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								story bibles, or actor photographs.  When the actors do this, bear in mind
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								that it is a kindness *that comes out of their own pockets*, as there is
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								      I hate to be as brusque as this, but I'm starting to get overloaded
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								with email, and an occasional advisory seems necessary.
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								Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:32:08 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Attn JMS: What ever happened to Quality?
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								The characters figure it out later this season.
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								Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:37:20 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS Stealing scenes from other works
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								But the thing is, I wasn't *thinking* of LoTR...I was thinking of Orpheus
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								going into the underworld, of the classical notion of descending into hell
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								to find oneself or something else...it just bugs me when someone assumes
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								that they know what was in my head at a time when I wrote something, and
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								then take that as a given and start making me explain it or acting as if
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								this is true, when it ain't.
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								Date: 13 Nov 1996 23:33:29 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Faith in Future Eps?
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								Belief in one thing or another is *always* important.  Only the subject is
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								Date: 14 Nov 1996 06:00:53 GMT
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								"I watched _What Ever Happened to Mr Garibaldi_ last night and was struck
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								by the scene where Mr. G was being questioned by the disembodied voice. 
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								That scene was very similar to the style of another one of my favorite
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								shows _Homicide: Life on the Streets_.  I'm just wondering if that was an
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								This is kind of embarrassing, but...see, I don't watch much TV anymore.  I
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								don't have time.  I think I've seen maybe two episodes of Homicide, total.
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								 So we were in with the editor to do our producer's cut of 402, and I was
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								trying to describe what I wanted...jarring, disorienting cuts, don't worry
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								if it matches, use conflicting takes or overlaps of takes...and finally
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								the editor said, "Oh, you mean the Homicide look."  And it'd been so long
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								that I asked them to explain to me what that meant, and John got into it,
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								me with him, and ended up with what we've got.  I've got to start watching
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								TV again, beyond X-Files, 60 Minutes and Simpsons.  (Well, I've added
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								"Second question. Last year on ABC the show _Murder One_ tried having one
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								main story, like an arc, through the whole season.  It was following a
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								trial (I assume you know this).  That show basically got a "that's nice"
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								from the crowd and not much else.  Do you think that the  concept of an
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								ongoing story works better in a science fiction show  than say a cop show?
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								 Was it more the execution of _Murder One_  that did in the idea of one
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								trial per season?  I would be curious to hear your thoughts."
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								viewing audience was *so* sick to death of the OJ trial that the idea of
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								watching ANOTHER homicide trial take a week was just too much for them.  
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 07:54:25 GMT
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								Subject: Re: *SPOILERS* [ATTN:JMS] Observations after 'Whatever Happened ...'
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								"They are being made to choose between life and death, action and
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								inaction, hope and despair.  They are in the position of having to either
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								lose faith, or keep it."
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 07:57:27 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Expanding Symmetries (No Spoilers)
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								I briefly considered giving G'Kar a second, after the revolving door
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								Na'Toths, but as I looked at it...as you say, the others all DO have one
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								like that, and I figured it might be good to have someone *without*
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								that...especially after the fall of Narn, when the staff would be
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								canceled.  And there's something I like about G'Kar being alone in all
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 08:01:19 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: I was right...
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								Good luck to you.  In doing what you're doing, you are removing yourself
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								from the system, and the system always objects to that.  Follow your
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 08:10:43 GMT
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								"Are you *still* dealing with this, in Sheridan's situation on Z'ha'dum,
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								and the decision he has to make? Is this where you get your strength of
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								will, that you've faced this decision yourself?.....You've been dealing
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								with the whole issue of finding something worth living for, rather than
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								something worth dying for, since when, "Infection"? "
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								and would not have, had the thing not just utterly blindsided me in the
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								middle of the conference.  What got me through the attack, and its
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								aftermath, those years ago, was sheer unadulterated rage...that I would
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								not allow them to take my life because I had stories left in me to tell. 
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								And no matter what, I'd tell those stories.  At first, I'd made my peace
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								with myself...I'd never gone out of my way to hurt anyone, had helped
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								where I could, had done some good work...I had a few things on the shelf,
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								not a lot, but a start...but then I just started to get mad about it, and
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								pulled myself back from the edge.  
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								drive you, after a while.  And I do think, to a large degree, I'm still
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								trying to define myself, to find what it is that's at the center for me,
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								beyond the work.  But then, I don't think that's terribly special...it
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 08:11:53 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Claudia Christian & Episode 402 (spoilers for "Whatever...")
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 09:35:02 GMT
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								"Does reading through all these Internet discussions of your work,
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								speculations, and analyses help you not only generate ideas but maintain a
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								No, for one primary reason: there is no continuity of opinion about much
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								of ANYdamnthing among the netizens out there.  Which is the good thing
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								about all this; no two people see the same show.
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 09:39:35 GMT
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								---->*My question, then, is this:  "Is babylon5 intended to be a modern
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								myth?  If so, what influences might have lead to the scripting of the B5
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								saga?  Jung? Campbell perhaps?"*<----
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								Yes and no.  I'm aware of Campbell's work, and have read much of it...but
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								bear in mind that his analyses came *after* the creative fact.  If you try
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								to consciously implement that during the writing, it can start making the
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								writing feel artificial.  It's the difference between the first two Road
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								Warrior movies and Thunderdome...in the gap between 2 and 3, he read
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								Campbell, and started doing things by the numbers rather than following
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								his gut instinct.  Consequently, 3 feels the least natural.
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								It's the job of the storyteller to provide myth, or perhaps more properly,
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								to reinterpret and reinvent myth, since myth tends not so much to be
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								Date: 15 Nov 1996 09:32:45 GMT
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								The scene was snipped for time.
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								No, I didn't write for the V series, only did a 4-hour miniseries that was
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								not produced because it was too costly for syndication...and no, haven't
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								Date: 17 Nov 1996 10:23:27 GMT
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								syntax.  In handwriting on the page (after the first draft, the typists
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								take revisions and implement them), I meant to write, "It is now 9 days
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								since Captain Sheridan was presumed killed at Z'ha'dum."  I either missed
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								changing the days, or the typist didn't put it in (it happens), and that
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								draft of the script is long gone.  But without knowing which, I'll just
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								Date: 17 Nov 1996 10:24:05 GMT
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								We were unable to make a deal with Foundation this season.  All the new B5
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								Date: 17 Nov 1996 10:14:27 GMT
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								"HANNAH:  It's all trivial . . . It's wanting to know that makes us
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								matter. Otherwise we're going out the way we came in. -Tom Stoppard,
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								Saw this play while I was in London about a year and a half ago.  Liked
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								parts of it, but as much as I like Tom Stoppard's work overall, I think
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								that if they're going to produce a play like this they should at least
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								have the politeness to TELL you that there's math involved.  I didn't know
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								a long way), and Alan Ayckbourn (whose "Norman Conquests" is/are
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								wonderful).  I also saw "Dancing at Luhnasa," and to this day don't
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								much of it is so well done there.  Though, I must confess, I dozed off
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								halfway through a Restoration period sex farce (well, an attempt at same)
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								at the RSC Swan Theater that was dry as sawdust.  "The Woman in Black"
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								remains one of the most entertaining small plays in London, a terrific
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								not.  (The Buddy Holly autobiographical play is thin on plot, great on
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								music.  But then, so was "Return to Forbidden Planet," and that was a hoot
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								also.)  And the new staging of "An Inspector Calls" is just terrific.
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 02:04:16 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Universe Today #2 ???
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								I have the new edition on my desk, in final form, and it's going out now. 
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								The problem is that normally, when licensed stuff comes through for
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								approval, I get it in and out the door in 48 hours.  But since this is our
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								with them to get things approved more quickly.  It's kinda ridiculous.
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 02:06:51 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Attn: JMS, videos, e-mail, 'n stuff
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								The problem is in getting WB to kick loose of the rights to the videos. 
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								We've been negotiating endlessly with them to let us do them...but they're
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								kinda like a monkey with its hand around a nut in a jar...it can't get it
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 02:08:27 GMT
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								Nope, haven't read it, have no intention of reading it.
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 02:07:43 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Att JMS: Yes, I know you don't celebrate Christmas ... :-)
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								Oh, I know Levenger's, believe me...they have whole barrels of my money
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 02:10:27 GMT
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								They are separated by an infinite number of plot points....
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 02:05:22 GMT
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								The cat was my idea.  Cats are endless sources of humor.
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 20:31:57 GMT
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								Yes, it was just 4 of 4, but you also had the last 5 of season 3, so
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								November, February, May and sometimes July.  They've always done this.
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 20:37:16 GMT
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								The "teeth" sections, which overlap the door, have metal dowels that slide
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 20:52:11 GMT
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								Subject: Re: The Summoning: Welcome back to the 50's, kids! (Spoilers)
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								Re: "magictech"...I believe it was Arthur C. Clarke who pointed out, "Any
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								sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
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								discovery of the atom, and its use at Hiroshima, we learned how to blow up
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								substantial portions of the planet and render it uninhabitable.  But it
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								would've taken a lot of them, hundreds, to do the job.  In the 50 years
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								since then, with the development of thermonuclear weaponry, the job is
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								even easier.  It's been reckoned that you'd only need about 75 really
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								decent sized thermonuclear detonations to render the entire continental
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								United States dead and uninhabitable.
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 20:45:09 GMT
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								I've been repeating this time and again...and I'm going to stop now for a
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								Every season, we're barely into the new stories, and everyone asks, "Is
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								this it?  Is it?  Huh?  ANSWER ME?  WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?  WHY WON'T YOU
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								CONFIRM OR DENY THIS?"
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								Because I don't know.  Because WB doesn't know.  Nobody will know ANYthing
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								for sure until probably February.  Which is what I said last year, and the
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 20:40:07 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: WHtMG music (spoilers!)
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								and goes out, my main note to Chris on that final sequence was, "Break our
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								Date: 19 Nov 1996 20:41:41 GMT
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								"Was this scene redone for WHtMG?  I'd have to compare, but I think I
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								would've noticed that hopeful smile at the end of Z.  It would've been
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								just a -little- out of place, under the circumstances."
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								Date: 21 Nov 1996 00:10:08 GMT
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								"The Coming of Shadows."
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								Date: 21 Nov 1996 00:12:29 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS : Spoiler credits!
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								Date: 21 Nov 1996 00:15:13 GMT
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								"Joe, as I just said to a friend,  you're spreading a madness with your
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								writing.  Have you no shame, sir?  No conscience?  No compassion for the
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								Date: 21 Nov 1996 02:58:16 GMT
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								"JMS leaves us to find our own answers and that looks like, to me, his
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								message in Babylon 5.  You can't just have someone give you all the
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								answers.  At some point you have to break away and find your own answers
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								to your own questions.  This seems to be the idea in a lot of his
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								scriptwriting and his posts.  In fact, the essence of B5 revolves around
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								it.  You don't know what other people are thinking, the good guys arent
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								always what they appear to be, and life is NOT black and white.  Relying
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								on others for answers makes you a slave to them because you believe
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								Give that man a ceegar.
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								Date: 21 Nov 1996 20:53:13 GMT
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								Actually, to your question, I've taught before, and would enjoy doing so
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								again in some kind of university environment.  (I taught writing at San
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								Diego State University for a semester as well, but the other instructors
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								academic doing it, as they felt it sullied the program and made it too
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								Date: 21 Nov 1996 22:57:42 GMT
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								Those jackets are exclusively for cast and crew.
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								Date: 21 Nov 1996 22:56:19 GMT
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								That only works if you define yourself by what you do...not what you are.
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								Date: 22 Nov 1996 09:21:29 GMT
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								"And please JMS, don't be hard on Andreas--he's had a hard time the last
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								few eposides, and with the stress of Peter messing with his nipples, you
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								Oh, no...he doesn't get off that easy.  I've got 9 episodes left to write
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								this season, and that's ample opportunity to make his life a living hell.
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								"Let's see...he's my employer...he can make me do ANYthing he wants me to
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								do...I've got an idea, let's fuck with his mind!"
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								Oh, but I'm going to enjoy this *mightily*.
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								Date: 22 Nov 1996 09:22:11 GMT
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								Cool, I gotta see that!  Thanks, I didn't know.
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								Date: 22 Nov 1996 09:22:49 GMT
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								No, this Kevin is an Australian director.
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								Date: 22 Nov 1996 09:33:47 GMT
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								Thank you, your words are most kind.
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								I guess you have to understand...I come at this from the perspective of
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								having been an SF fan myself, I've *stood* in those lines.  And been cut
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								off.  I swore, up one side and down the other, that if I should ever get
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								my chance to do something of merit, if I ever got known (outside of
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								America's Most Wanted), that I wouldn't allow ANYone to experience that
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								This has infected many members of our cast, who feel as I do...and they go
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								far, far, FAR beyond the call of duty.
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								'Cause, basically...it's the right thing to do.
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								Date: 22 Nov 1996 09:26:34 GMT
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								Yup, I'd say it's very likely that some people close to Sheridan are going
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								Date: 22 Nov 1996 09:53:21 GMT
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								So earlier this week we did the audio mix on almost all of 404, "Falling
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								Toward Apotheosis," which airs this coming week.  We did all but 7
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								Copeland, George Johnsen and I left about 7 p.m. to go and mix the audio
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								Point being...if you've got a friend with a good TV and a spiffy audio or
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								Date: 23 Nov 1996 02:55:30 GMT
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								Subject: Re: JMS over on CIS
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								It's a combination of the ease of the CIS interface, that I can do it
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								offline more easily, and the type of questions.
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								Date: 24 Nov 1996 05:21:28 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Question to JMS about the background of developing the alien nations & organizations
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								universe backstory.
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								Date: 24 Nov 1996 03:26:25 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS Ode to JMS: In honor of season four
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								Date: 24 Nov 1996 03:34:34 GMT
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								Just a quick advisory...I'll be doing the first major online conference on
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								the B5 website at 6:00 p.m. Pacific time this coming Monday.  That's
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								http://www.thestation.com for the official B5 fanclub site.
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								Date: 25 Nov 1996 00:17:12 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Attn:JMS Babylon 5:Crusaders-Reality check
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								Actually, I've said pretty much from the very beginning of the first
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								season, that there was a side-story that could go off, which I'd be
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								And it's not Crusaders (which always makes me think of Crusader Rabbit);
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								it's The Babylon Project: Crusade.  (That's the working title, anyway.)
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								Date: 25 Nov 1996 00:15:52 GMT
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								Remember, they do have a certain physicality about them, even in that
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								form, and the nature of the poison was such that it would affect that kind
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								of life form using a crystalline base (note in the pilot the screen reads
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								analyzing crystallne structure, and you filter light or refract or distort
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								it using a crystalline structure).
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								Date: 25 Nov 1996 09:08:54 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS (B5 Videos)
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								Yes, we shoot widescreen, and hope to release in that form eventually.
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								Date: 26 Nov 1996 01:15:33 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Arc ending this season?
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								"I then pick up a copy of TV Zone(UK Magazine for sci-fi etc) and read in
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								it an interview with Bruce Boxleitner which clearly states the shows 5
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								year arc is ending this year.  And then I pick up a copy of Cult TV, with
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								an interview with JMS in it, and this also features the same info, except
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								this time it states quite clearly that Warner Brothers have asked JMS to
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								resolve the shows 5 year arc this season."
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								Yes, I have those two magazines as well, both from the same publisher. 
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								And I was rather upset when I saw them, because, if you will go back and
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								read them again, you will see that nowhere are Bruce or I quoted as SAYING
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								that there is only going to be 4 years.  The *magazine* says that, the
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								writer says that, but they nowhere provide a quote from anyone backing
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								that up.  I *sure* as hell didn't say that, and Bruce has indicated the
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								The magazine is making assumptions.  Let me state this again: nothing has
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								yet been decided for certain.  If it had been, I would tell you.
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								Look...let's be logical about this, shall we?  If I knew this would be the
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								last year, what possible mileage is there in keeping this secret?  I'd
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								want to put this info out there in hopes of either a) getting a campaign
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								going, or b) bracing the fans for the inevitable, if it were inevitable
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								(the joke about your mom's on the roof and we can't get her down).  
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								Let me repeat this: I DON'T KNOW.  WB DOESN'T KNOW.  Nothing has yet been
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								Date: 26 Nov 1996 05:59:14 GMT
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								Just a note to apologize to those who showed up at thestation.com for the
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								chat Monday night.  DirectNet, the people who handle the server (and as of
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								this moment we are giving strong consideration to going elsewhere, after
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								this fiasco), figured (without asking us) that they'd get maybe about 100
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								or so people, based on other chats.  They allocated memory and other
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								So when about 2,000 people showed up...it blew the system to hell and back
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								again.  Result: chaos, confusion, lock-outs, angry calls to DirectNet,
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								server errors...a mess.
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								underestimate how many people are going to show up.  It's almost funny
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								enough to make me reconsider gouging out the eyes of several DirectNet
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								personnel and feeding them to hamsters.  Almost.)
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								I can only apologize, and say that as with all things we try for the first
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								Date: 26 Nov 1996 09:44:18 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN:JMS: A 5 Year Universe Done in 4 Years?
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								The story will be finished, one way or another.
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								Date: 27 Nov 1996 01:48:14 GMT
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								Subject: Re: JMS: Next time, use IRC. =)
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								No, it wouldn't have been as bad if they'd been prepared for us.
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								IRC that I did while in Tampa had just as many servers blow up, all over
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								Final figure was that 6,000 tried to get into this thing...there ain't a
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								Date: 28 Nov 1996 01:03:15 GMT
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								diverse and interesting people.  It makes the efforth worthwhile.
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								Date: 28 Nov 1996 01:04:51 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS Bright Mountain Range
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								Date: 28 Nov 1996 01:14:08 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Paradigm shifts and B5/Trek
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								"I felt as if I had been *deprogrammed,* and stopped thinking of the
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								future in terms of that one vision of it, and being a hard scientist,
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								that's a pretty embarrassing admission to make.  But it was stunning
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								to*feel* it happen to myself.  After a lifetime of watching Trek as the
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								*only* vision of the future that most people were aware of, it's amazing
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								to become fully aware of the depth of the belief suspension, until it
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								seems like the "real" future is the one with the Crayola uniforms and the
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								This was something I began to really understand during the first season,
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								and was something I hadn't anticipated going in.  Some of the reaction
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								against B5 was so strong from some groups of ST fans...it wasn't just one
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								show vs. another, there was a vehemence in it that was coming from
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								visions of the future.  I've mentioned before the angry letter I got that,
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								among other things, said that the person was thrown every time one of our
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								characters used a hand link when "everyone *knows* that by then we'll be
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								using chest communicators."  It was a vision thing (to use a fairly recent
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								campaign slogan).  The problem then becomes, for lack of a better term, a
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								religious problem...competing ideologies, notions to which one has
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								Date: 28 Nov 1996 04:35:52 GMT
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								Deanna: thanks.  Your words are most kind, and eminently appreciated.
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								Date: 28 Nov 1996 04:44:32 GMT
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								Subject: jms & co at LosCon (LA)
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								This Thanksgiving Sunday, from 2:30-4:30 p.m., there will be a B5
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								presentation at LosCon, an annual fan-run convention here in Los Angeles. 
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								LosCon was the very first convention to get behind B5 and support it, and
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								our appearance there every year is something that means a lot to all
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								involved.  It also tends to be the biggest event of each year's
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								convention.
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								For the first hour it'll be me, with clips from episodes as yet unaired,
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								the first pass at the season four bloopers (shown here for the first time,
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								still in rough form, some elements of which will be cut as we get further
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								along), a music video or two, and the like.  The second hour I'll be
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								joined by producer John Copeland (aka pigdog13 on AOL, frequent SF Vortex
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								guest, and resident Media Sex God), co-producer George Johnsen, and
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								conceptual consultant Harlan Ellison.  Peter Jurasik may make it by,
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								contingent upon family obligations, but that's unconfirmed.  We always try
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								and debut stuff there.
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								LosCon is a good sized (1,000 or so) fan-run convention that's been going
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								on here in LA for decades, and a great deal of fun.  This year it's taking
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								place at the Burbank Airport Hilton, just abaft from, well, Burbank
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								Aiport.
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								Because the B5 presentations are the biggest thing at each year's LosCon,
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								you may want to show up a bit early.
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								Date: 29 Nov 1996 06:43:59 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Paradigm shifts and B5/Trek
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								"No one's claiming Trek doesn't have its failings.  The issue at hand is
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								the B5 folk who feel compelled to constantly ridicule Trek.  There's not
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								much point, and the attitude is suspiciously cult-like, even if they
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								aren't really a cult."
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								One fallacy in your thinking: while there are many ST fans who haven't
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								seen B5, there are insofar as I know *no* B5 fans who haven't seen ST, and
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								in most cases, began as ST fans.  These are the same complaints many of
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								them have had with ST for a time long before B5 ever came on the
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								map...only now in some cases they have a show which is doing what they
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								have been saying should be done for some time now.  
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								This is not a B5 problem...it's an internal ST problem.  
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								Date: 29 Nov 1996 09:44:24 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS- Ever Been to Toronto?
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								"I have noticed that you make appearances at many conventions and even
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								went overseas but I have yet to hear you make an appearence in Toronto or
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								any other part of Canada. Is it a matter of being invited or is it a lack
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								of free time?"
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								Yes, no, and none of the above.
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								There is a time question, in that that's a LONG flight from L.A., and
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								getting away is tough.  I do happen to like Toronto, I was there several
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								times while working on Captain Power and The Twilight Zone, and when I was
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								nominated there for a Gemini Award (the Canadian equivilent of an Emmy). 
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								I've always enjoyed my time there, so it's nothing against the city,
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								believe me.  
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								The other problem is venue.  I've been invited by Toronto Trek, for
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								instance, by some very nice people there...but I have kind of a standing
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								policy about not going to any conventions whose names relate to Star Trek,
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								because when I did them I always got gigged for "poaching" by many ST fans
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								who still perceive this as a zero-sum game.  I don't put this onto my
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								cast, who can go as they choose, but again they don't have the same onus
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								in this regard that I do.
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								Aside from that one, I haven't heard from any cons of sufficient size to
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								make the long trip worth doing.  Going that far for less than about 1500
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								people is hard to justify in the midst of filming.  (That's turned into
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								one of my few rules about conventions...the further away it is, the more
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								there has to be a goodly number of people to justify it...because I *hate*
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								traveling, and really long trips also cut into my work on the show...so
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								the more time away from the show, the more I have to justify it
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								logistically.)
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								Date: 30 Nov 1996 00:06:09 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ***ATTN JMS: Atonement***
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								Thanks...I really do think that this show will be around for a long, long
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								time....
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								Date: 30 Nov 1996 00:07:43 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Londo and "Falling Towards Apotheosis"
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								Thanks.  The Londo stuff is nice, and you do get a sense of the kind of
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								person he was before the empire began to slip, and his fortunes with it. 
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								He can definitely pull it out when he wants to.
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								Date: 30 Nov 1996 00:08:26 GMT
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								Subject: Re: Attn: JMS: Does this apply (Andreas/Peter)
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								Suffice to say you'll hear about it.....
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								Date: 30 Nov 1996 00:10:00 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS another compliment (possible *Spoilers*)
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								"What I like most about B5, I guess, is this: Shit happens.  Shit happens
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								to us, not the guest aliens of the week.  Shit STAYS happened."
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								That's a great last line...I may refer to that in future, thanks.
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								Date: 30 Nov 1996 06:13:33 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Biggus Headus
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								"I have been wondering for a while...with the constant inundation of
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								respect, adoration and awe from most on this newsgroup(not to mention
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								conventions and fan mail), just how do you keep it all from going to your
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								head?  I would personally find being dubbed 'Great Maker' a little
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								intoxicating."
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								I guess it's easy to not let that happen since, for me, it's all for the
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								show, not for me personally.  I have a very hard time applying that to
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								me...the show is the show.  I'm still the same goofball I was before I
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								made B5.  And I find that whenever I start getting cocky, the universe
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								whaps me upside the head, and makes me humble *real* fast.
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								Example...the other day, we were finishing up the editing on 408, "The
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								Illusion of Truth."  Making the producer's cut is the hardest thing I do,
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								and I'm just exhausted at the end of it.  So I'm taking a five minute
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								break, waiting for the elevator to go downstairs and grab a coke, just to
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								wake up...and I'm alone, walking back and forth in the hall...in that
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								kinda dopey way you do when you're just utterly whacked...I go a few
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								paces, swing my leg around, half/stagger back the other direction, go a
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								few paces, repeat...my mind elsewhere....
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								And the door opens, mid-swing...and I start for it...and being off-balance
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								I end up doing this drunken-looking stagger right past the elevator
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								doors....
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								The way it would've looked from the inside is as if the elevator doors
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								opened up on the fourth deck of the Lusitania, tilted and going down, and
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								some crew member was tumbling down the angled deck....and the door closes
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								I was too embarrassed to get into it, and waited for the next one.
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								So it's real easy for me to keep modest...I don't think I have much
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								"Do you ever find it affecting your writing?  Your dealing with the cast &
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								crew?
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								No, they also have their ways of keeping me modest...hence Andreas' recent
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								little gag...for which he will pay dearly....
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								Date: 30 Nov 1996 09:10:13 GMT
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								Subject: Re: JMS makes my wife squeal Saturday Nights!
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								"My petite, demure wife, a professional woman of letters, turns the lights
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								down on Saturday nights (when the show airs), sprawls on the floor,
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								demands total control, and then when some piece of dailoge strikes her
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								just so, shreeks, holding in laughter, so she can hear the rest.   Then
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								when there is a great space scene, load moaning commentary like, "No, no,
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								no...  YES! Yes, yes!!!" is shouted."
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								(laying back, lighting a cigarette)
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								I'm sorry, what were you saying?
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								Okay, who wants pizza?
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								Date: 30 Nov 1996 09:16:51 GMT
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								Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Congratulations on your current ratings trend!
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								Yeah, the rankings sometimes drop even when the hard numbers increase when
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								you're in sweeps period, and everybody's fighting it out and there's a lot
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								of stunt programming going on.  To stay in the top 25 is a great thing,
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								and the growth in households is even better.  That's between 10-15 million
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								core viewers, and that's very good for a syndicated show, especially when
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								other dramatic shows like the ST series have seen definite drops (as per
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								the latest Entertainment Weekly).  And our demographics remain the highest
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								for any syndicated series, so that makes the show extremely attractive to
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								advertisers.
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