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Messages from Babylon 5 executive producer J. Michael Straczynski on the
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Usenet newsgroup rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.
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Date: 1 Aug 1995 06:17:49 -0400
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Subject: Attn JMS: Female characters
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Writing women has never been a problem for me. I like women, both
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romantically (when I was still in the marketplace) and intellectually, as
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friends. For as long as I can remember, the majority of my friends have
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been women. I have a goodly number of men friends, but what can I say, I
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like the way many women think. Specifically, I like women who are usually
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smarter than me, who are funny, independent, self-assured and know their
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own mind. So it's not much of a stretch, therefore, that when I sit down
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to write female characters, *that's* what tends to come out most of the
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time.
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I've had a *lot* of relationships in my time; the total number of
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intimate relationships (yeah, I'm talking about *that*) I once figured
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worked out to about 50. On one level, I'm not terribly proud of that
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figure, it reflects a period when I was trying to find...I dunno...
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SOMEdamnthing...but on the other hand, it's given me a LOT of material from
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which to draw.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 03:28:16 -0400
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Subject: The Long Twilight Struggle.
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Thank you. I'm quite frankly thrilled beyond words at the preliminary
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reactions from the UK to this episode; we worked *really* hard on it, and
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I can't tell you what the reactions mean to us.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 21:44:28 -0400
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Subject: "Downbelow" a ref to Cherryh's
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Actually, no, there was no intended not; I wanted the sense that this
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place was down, as in downtown, downtrodden...briefly considered Down Under
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but figured our viewers in Oz might be (rightly) bugged by it. So Down
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Under became Down Below, and I put them together into one word for slang,
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DownBelow.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 21:46:18 -0400
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Subject: QUES#1: Before the Agamemnon?
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Sheridan was captain of a smaller ship, somewhat Hyperion-sized,
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during the war. When the Aggy became available, he was given that
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command.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 21:47:32 -0400
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Subject: JMS: What's delaying VHS/LD in
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Warners isn't sure there are enough people out there who'd want to
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buy the show to make producing them worthwhile. So we're trying to help
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them over this.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 22:41:20 -0400
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Subject: ATT JMS: Well, how did the fir
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Our first three days of shooting have gone terrific; everyone's in
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fine spirits.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 22:42:46 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Script book
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Actually, I keep hoping to get the revised version of that book out
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one of these days. As for sharks...one can choose to become one, or not
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to become one. Ask anybody.
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Ask Londo.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 22:44:11 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Question about Black
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Yes, he did send a fake distress call, and took out the Black Star
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when it came in to (they thought) wipe out a disabled ship. He's never
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denied this to anybody.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 22:44:37 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Change of Terms
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Babcom is for local, in-station calls, and inter-ship stuff;
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StellarCom is for long-range planetary calls.
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jms
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Date: 2 Aug 1995 22:47:41 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Where can I get one
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I think costuming customizes the shirts that way.
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jms
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Date: 3 Aug 1995 03:21:07 -0400
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Subject: = Attn JMS: Psi Corp Question
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Of *course* the telepath issue will have to be dealt with; this is a
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logical progression of the story, no?
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jms
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Date: 3 Aug 1995 03:52:51 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Twilight(spoilers)
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"how can it get any better?"
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Has to, though. We took a blood oath on this show that each season
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must be better than the one preceding. In many ways, we're still the new
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kids on the block, and we can't afford to ever once let our guard down and
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settle for anything less than constant striving. And, frankly, though it's
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endless struggle, it's kinda fun on another level; we discover and invent
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new ways to do things, and new approaches to story and production, on a
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regular basis (tomorrow we're seeing some new CGI tricks from Ron via some
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beta-test software that should let us do some truly nifty stuff...).
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jms
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Date: 3 Aug 1995 03:56:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: Trend: Fan Interaction
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This is one of the more delicate areas in viewer/producer interaction
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here on the nets. On one side, if you say, "Yeah, we fought the studios,
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the networks, nobody tells us how to do our show," and viewers respond with
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enthusiasm, then another viewer has a suggestion, and you don't take it,
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suddenly it has the potential to come off like a snub. Yes, on one level,
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shows don't exist without fans. Shows also don't exist without networks
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and studios to finance and produce them. There are two masters at work
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here.
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My take on this is very simple: nothing good has been done by
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committee since the pyramids and Stonehenge. The bigger the committee,
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the more watered-down or diffuse the final result. B5 viewers, as cute a
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bunch as they might be, basicallyk constitute the largest committee on
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record.
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If somebody finds a glitch in the show, points out an error, asks a
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good leading question, I (or frankly any reasonable producer) would be a
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fool to ignore it. But you've got to know your own mind, and what it is
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you want to do with your show, and be absolutely, totally committed to
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following your inclinations and your instincts, or very shortly you'll end
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up wandering in the wilderness beyond hope of recall.
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jms
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Date: 3 Aug 1995 03:56:41 -0400
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Subject: B5 Magazine
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A deal has been closed with Sendai to produce a regular, official
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B5 glossy magazine, yes.
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jms
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Date: 3 Aug 1995 04:01:22 -0400
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Subject: Re: JMS- Actors( & Accents)
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Actually, the lead guest character in the first episode of year three,
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one Mr. Endawi, is a Nigerian, and our new recurring character, Marcus
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Cole (a Ranger) is British, and played by Jason Carter. So you have two
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non-American accents occupying major parts of the first ep next year.
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jms
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Date: 3 Aug 1995 04:25:33 -0400
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Subject: Quotes from Jeri Taylor on sto
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There's nothing even remotely askew in anything Jeri said. There are
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two philosophies at work here (arc vs. non-arc), and neither is
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intrinsically or inherently better than the other. It's a matter of
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personal tastes, and what you're trying to accomplish.
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The Martian Chronicles was written as a series of short stories within
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a universe, somewhat loosely, but which together make enjoyable reading in
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one volulme. That's ST or most conventional series.
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The Dune books are tightly plotted stories over a long, pre-planned
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arc. This is the structure B5 employs.
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jms
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Date: 3 Aug 1995 04:48:36 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Animated Series
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It's a good idea, but I kinda stay away from animation these days,
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having been somewhat burned out on the area.
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 01:48:55 -0400
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Subject: ATTN Rangers: Are ep. title s
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If the episode titles are based on previously established real
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quotes (as "the long, twilight struggle" is excerpted from a Kennedy
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speech), then it's okay.
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:22:06 -0400
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Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Twilight(spoiler
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"If what's coming is truly nifty, then what do you call what you've
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shot so far?"
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The stuff we did yesterday.
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Never look back.
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:22:13 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Production Q - Sound FX
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Yes, insofar as I know, all the sounds we use in B5 for items we
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created (PPGs, hyperspace, starfuries, shadow ships, on and on) are
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original creations. Hyperspace was a real toughie. One thing I wanted
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was a kind of hollow sound, like when you cup your hands over your ears.
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So the sound designer put together a LOT of different sounds, including
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putting a condom over a microphone and putting it deep into his swimming
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pool. (How he explained the open condom wrappers to his wife later is
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anyone's guess. "No, really, I needed them to do some sound design.")
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I kept a fairly tight rein on sound stuff in the beginning, until
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the sound designers caught what we were after, and now mainly what
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happens is that when we do the audio spotting for the episode, we stop
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at a point where a new sound is needed, or we introduce a new locale in
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the station and have to discuss the audio mapping. We talk about it in
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general terms, unless I have something terribly specific in mind, and
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the sound folks go off and do it, and I don't think I've had much of a
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problem with anything they've done.
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Sometimes, a sound will consist of various pieces, and when we get
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in to do the final audio mix, I/we may go through the pieces and if
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there's a conflict between a sound effect and a music cue (if both are
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taking up the same space in the low end), we may adjust the sound effect
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or omit one of the pieces to carve out room in the audio and make sure
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they don't just mush together. This is particularly true given that
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often Chris Franke incorporates lots of natural (and unnatural) sounds in
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his music, and we have to make sure to give emphasis to the right one for
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the dramatic moment.
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:26:30 -0400
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Subject: JMS' "Murder, She Wrote" on US
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Ah, yes, that episode was the first I wrote for Murder, She Wrote
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while engaged there as writer/producer. So yes, there should be others
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coming up in the current batch by me. It really was a fun show in many
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ways; I'd still be there now in all likelihood had not B5 come along when
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it did. It's hard to find a truly literate show to write for. And the
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cast was uniformly great, inclusive of Angela and Bill Windom.
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:26:38 -0400
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Subject: ATTN: JMS or Ron Thornton (if
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Oh, good, one more church from which I'm going to have to become an
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apostate....
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:26:47 -0400
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Subject: Twilight struggle subtext- spo
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Without spoiling anything...yes, in this regard, I've always noted
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that there are some echoes of WW II in the overall storyline, and some
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applies here. Also, again, the purpose of a large measure of the show is
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to elicit discussion of such issues as this...where are the mora,
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(moral) responsibilities in such a situation? What are the ethics of
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mass warfare? Where does expediency begin and compassion end? *Should*
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compassion have to end for the greater good?
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If we can start some bar fights, I'll have done my job.
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Fact is, I don't have one single damned good answer. But I've got a
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whole LOTTA questions....
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:26:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: JMS- Actors( & Accents)
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Actually, Lord Refa has an accent almost identical to Londo's, and
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Emperor Turhan had quite an accent as well, so we'e done a lot of this
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already (also Londo's friend in Knives).
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jms
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Date: 4 Aug 1995 05:00:33 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Dialogue writing
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Let me just start off by disagreeing with your thesis, that the
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length restrictions and format of TV writing tend to mitigate against good
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writing. By that same token, sonnets (which use a very strict formula or
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format) can't be good, or haiku, we should toss out iambic pentameter
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altogether, and short stories, often considerably shorter than a half-hour
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TV script, must also be unable to contain quality writing.
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The form doesn't matter. It's what you bring to the table.
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Similarly, the issue of rushed writing...many of the classic SF tales
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of the 50s and 60s were written as fast as humanly possible because back
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then writers were paid a penny a word, and you had to really crank the
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stuff out there to make any kind of living. It was quite common for writers
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of many of the SF magazines of the time to go into the publisher's office,
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see the cover for an issue a few months down the road, and on the spot come
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up with a title, a story premise, go home, write it, and bring it in the
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very next day.
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We're talking here margins. Margins aren't important. It's what you
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choose to fill the margins, the care you exercise, the passion you bring to
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the page, that makes the difference.
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Yeah, a lot of TV writing is pretty marginal. Sturgeon's Law: 90% of
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everything is crap. How many novels are turned out each year that sink of
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their own weight in zero time? How few novels are really and truly
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substantial? How many short stories? Out of all the SF novels and short
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stories and short-shorts and novellas and novellettes published each year,
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how many will survive on the shelf 5, 10, or 15 years from now?
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Mark Twain said, "If you would have your fiction live forever, you
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must neither overtly preach nor overtly teach; but you must *covertly*
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preach and *covertly* teach." That, to me, is one primary ingredient; it
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must, at its root, be *about* something more than car chases and bomb
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blasts and shootouts. On some level, however cellular, it must instruct
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and ennoble and elevate and enrich, make us question or consider.
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Then there is the basic level of writing style, but that is a very
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personal flavor. Hill Street had an elegance of simplicity, the writing
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was often raw and piercing on a sheer gut level. I loved it. When I sit
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down to write, I tend to drift toward a somewhat more literary-sounding or
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theatrical style, probably because of my own influences.
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It comes down, really, to whether or not you have the inclination to
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sit down, whichever style you use, and stare at the screen for half an
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hour until you find just the right word, the mot just, that serves better
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than any other possibly could. Some writers will do that, some won't.
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David Kelly does it on ER and Picket Fences and other shows. So do the
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folks on The Simpsons. And many other shows. A lot of folks dump on TV,
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ignoring similar failinlgs in literary SF or other genres, but like any
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exercise in accepted cliche, the reasoning is flawed and often (though
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not always) unjustified.
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As for my personal list of writers whose work I admire...Kelly, as
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noted, definitely. Mainly, though, I grew up on the genre TV writers of
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the 50s/60s, like Rod Serling, Charles Beaumond, Richard Matheson, Robert
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Bloch (that should be BeaumonT, not Beaumond), Ernest Kinoy, Harlan
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Ellison, Joe Stefano, and though he was fading from view by then, Arch
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Oboler, and the kinetoscopes of Paddy Chayefsky, Reginald Rose and others.
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Later, I added Norman Corwin to the list, as a chief point of inspiration,
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stylistically. (There are a number of writers who call or consider
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themselves "Norman's Kids" in that we've learned much about writing, and
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the integrity of writing, from Norman Corwin...including Ray Bradbury,
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Charles Kuralt, Walter Cronkite, Stan Freberg, and many others.)
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 02:51:48 -0400
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Subject: ATTN:JMS Will the Us ever cat
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The US will be back ahead of the UK very soon, with year three, for
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one vital reason: the US breaks up new shows with reruns; the UK runs
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straight through and stops. The rerun schedule generally allows us to
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coast along at a reasonable schedule for delivering episodes. If the UK
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started at the same time as the US in year 3, we'd hit snags as we
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hurried to deliver shows. (We shoot in 7 working days, or 2 days longer
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than a conventional week...so if you're showing a new ep every true 7
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days, once a week, you're going to get ahead of production very quickly.)
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So year 3 starts in the US in November; it will likely start in the
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UK in January/February.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 02:51:58 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: tLTS Reporter Quote
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Yes, "They're being bombed back to the stone age" is a Vietnam era
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quote.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 02:54:06 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Slight sound glitch
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"I can't wait to see how ou torture us next week!"
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Funny line, that, which you'll understand in a few days.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 03:22:58 -0400
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Subject: ATTN:JMS What's the latest on
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It should be up on the web by late September.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 03:23:04 -0400
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Subject: ATT JMS: Twin Peaks
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I liked Twin Peaks a lot, though the truth is they really had NO idea
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where the heck they were going, and they kinda threw stuff in randomly a
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lot. (This from one of the staffers over there at the time in the writing
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department.) If you missed one ep you were screwed in trying to follow it,
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but jeez, it was a great ride while it lasted.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 03:23:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: JMS- Actors( & Accents)
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I've never, ever said that the aliens/humans in B5 got language
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translation implants, VIPs or otherwise; that's strictly a Star Trek
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device.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 03:35:55 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: TLTS<spoiler>dubbed
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No, his voice wasn't dubbed, or changed, by anyone; might've been a
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glitch in local audio or something.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 03:50:12 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: The making of CGI s
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An extensive video clip tape is something we're considering for the
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fan club, yes.
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jms
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Date: 5 Aug 1995 03:50:19 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Profit participation
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Because if agents ask for gross points on the part of writers or
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certain others, they'll be flatly denied and somebody else will be hired.
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jms
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Date: 7 Aug 1995 05:20:33 -0400
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Subject: Attn: JMS-What will "Official"
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We've had some preliminary discussions about what would be on the
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official B5 web page, and at the moment, I can't talk about any of the
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things we have in mind until they've been realized. Much of it is stuff
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definitely not included in other web sites. Plus some interesting
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opportunities. Be patient...we haven't dropped the ball elsewhere....
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jms
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Date: 7 Aug 1995 05:20:40 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Writing changes?
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Every show is on deadline, to one extent or another. As for the
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rest....
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It's hard to say. I know that my style has changed somewhat since
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B5 began, and the approach I take *to* the writing has changed a bit, but
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it's a very hard thing to put into words. It's like learning a new
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little trick during sex...you're not quite sure where it came from, it's
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still the same concept, but something about it works a little better for
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you.
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In one way, because it's my own show, I'm no longer having to yoke
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myself to somebody else's conception. Whenever you're working for a
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writer/producer above you, a certain measure of your time is spent in
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second-guessing, however much you may also be trying to expand that
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character at the same time. "
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"Okay, I'm going to go this far, but I know if I go *too* far, the
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guy's gonna lean on me, say the character wouldn't do that, and I'll have
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to go back and restructure."
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So that problem doesn't exist for me now. In some ways, it's given
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me greater latitude and confidence, but at the same time it's caused me to
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be *much* more intensely critical in examining my own work. I know that
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creatively, I'm pretty much out on my own here, and if I don't take great
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care to be sure that the work is up to par, there's nobody to backstop it
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above me. "With great power comes great responsibility." Peter Parker.
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Probably the main thing that's happened is that I've grown slowly
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comfortable enough with things to begin taking real chances; doing scenes
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without any dialogue whatsoever (the Emperor's fall in "Coming," certain
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long segments of "Twilight"), and some fairly intense monologues; it's let
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me be free enough to do some radical stuff visually, to stretch to the
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limits of what I think I can do.
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What happens, if you're a writer who cares about your work, is that
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you write along at one level for a certain amount of time, you hit a
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plateau, this is as good as you are...but you keep poking at the edges,
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and after a while you get frustrated, because your reach is exceeding your
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grasp, and you know this should be *better* than it is, but you don't quite
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know why, or where, you can't conceptualize it...then suddenly you break
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through the ceiling, to another level, and your writing changes from that
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point on...until the next time.
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I'm very aware of having gone through several of those since starting
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the B5 series.
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jms
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Date: 7 Aug 1995 05:24:42 -0400
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Subject: Excuse me, I may be ignorant..
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"I am become" is perfectly acceptable useage, albeit somewhat
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archaic. It's even in my oft-quoted "Ulysses" by Tennyson: "I am become
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a legend."
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jms
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Date: 7 Aug 1995 05:34:44 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Possible plot twist
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That turn is coming.
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jms
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Date: 7 Aug 1995 22:24:38 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS or anyone: The three
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Only one of the novels is likely to be an actual arc novel; the rest
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are pretty much on the fringe.
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jms
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Date: 7 Aug 1995 22:21:58 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: What about next yea
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All I can really do for now is hope that they don't do it again
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next year; my gut says probably they won't, but what the heck does my
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gut know?
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jms
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Date: 7 Aug 1995 22:23:33 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: More soundtracks?
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I would be very happy to see a series of soundtracks out there.
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jms
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Date: 8 Aug 1995 06:17:30 -0400
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Subject: Attn: JMS B5 & CU-See Me On t
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No, but we *are* investigating the very real possibility that we may
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do some CU-see-me stuff live from the B5 stage during the season, once
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per episode, cast interviews and the like. Not finalized yet, though.
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jms
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Date: 8 Aug 1995 22:39:26 -0400
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Subject: Nitpicky question for JMS
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Actually, ben-Zayn is an Middle Eastern/Arabic name.
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jms
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Date: 8 Aug 1995 22:40:43 -0400
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Subject: Re: Marcus the Ranger
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The actor playing Marcus is Jason Carter, British, most lately on
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Viper and other shows.
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jms
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Date: 9 Aug 1995 19:32:40 -0400
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Subject: Ellison TREK Book! (from jms)
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It's the story that followers of STAR TREK have been discussing,
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analyzing, disseminating and hearing for nearly thirty years, involving what
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polls and conventions have consistently shown to be the single best episode
|
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of the original STAR TREK series ever produced: "The City on the Edge of
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Forever."
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What *really* happened? Who *really* did the final produced script?
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How did the original script come to be, what was in it (and almost as
|
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important, given rumors, what *wasn't* in it), and what do those most
|
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directly involved have to say about it?
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For the first time, you'll hear directly not only from Harlan
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Ellison (the article in the TV Guide special ST issue was basically just a
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warm-up), but also from Leonard Nimoy, Peter David, DeForest Kelley, Walter
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Koenig, D.C. Fontana, Melinda Snodgrass and George Takai...not in
|
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interviews, but in essays they have themselves written on the subject, for
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publication for the first time.
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Publication where, you ask? In THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER, the
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definitive book on the subject just completed by Harlan and those indicated
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above. The limited edition book contains not only the first version of the
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script, but subsequent revisions, two of the original treatments, actual
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correspondence printed here for the first time which will dispell many of
|
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the rumors circulating for over 30 years, afterwords by those noted in the
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paragraph above, and a 20,000 word introduction by Harlan Ellison.
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Publication of this book is one of the most eagerly awaited events by
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followers of STAR TREK. Advance orders have been pouring in, and only 330
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copies of the special limited edition remain, at $75 plus $5 shipping and
|
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handling (UPS insured) from Borderlands Press, a noted and prestigious
|
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publisher of quality limited edition books. These will be shipping on
|
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October 1st. The book has already been completed, and is now at the
|
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printers being typeset and bound.
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A regular trade hardcover edition will be available later, starting
|
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December 1st, at a price of $25, plus $5 S&H.
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This, as they say, is the Real Deal, with information withheld from
|
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publication for 30 years, made available here for the first time, along with
|
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the ability to show the progression through various stages of the script
|
|
that became "The City on the Edge of Forever." For writers interested in
|
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studying scripts, for followers of the show who want exclusive behind the
|
|
scenes info, for anyone with an abiding interest in things Trek...this is
|
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going to be *the* book to buy, the only Star Trek-based book ever likely to
|
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come from Harlan Ellison, and thus a sure collector's item.
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Visa/Mastercard orders can be placed at 1-800-528-3310, or send check
|
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or money order to BORDERLANDS PRESS, PO Box 146, Brooklandville, MD 21022.
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:40:00 -0400
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Subject: Re: Comes the Inquisitor (Coul
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Kosh always speaks of himself in the plural form.
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:40:16 -0400
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Subject: (no subject)
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Who has time to talk to other writers...?
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:40:30 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS:Comes The Inquisitor
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Your friend Sharon is clearly a woman of infinite taste and refined
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sensibilities.
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:40:40 -0400
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Subject: Toronto Trek 95 Thoughts
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I've now heard this report re: Majel several times, and suffice to
|
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say I'm *most* intrigued. If anybody out there has a recording -- audio
|
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or video -- please let me know in private mail. May be able to swap
|
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something in return.
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:38:10 -0400
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Subject: Help: Big Bang Refunds?
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I've been informed of late that, in addition to Michael O'Hare and
|
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Mark Hammil getting stiffed for, respectively, appearance fees and fees
|
|
plus travel expenses, to the total of $26,000, that the photographer who
|
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was contracted to shoot the con wasn't paid, neither was security, neither
|
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were the travel agents for the airline arrangements. I'm told that Tom
|
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has gone to ground, and am trying to confirm if he's just blipped off
|
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the map.
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Nearly all these other people, btw, are fans...which is what I was
|
|
worried about, that fans would be the ones hurt by this, which is what
|
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I said from day one, but the Big Bang apologists came out and said I was
|
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over-reacting, exaggerating, that *I* was the problem...and now they see
|
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what's happened, and suddenly they've gone silent and also can't be
|
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found.
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Cassandra, indeed....
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:39:35 -0400
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Subject: Attn JMS: Babylon 5 started in
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I hadn't been aware of much of this, and alas I'm powerless to do
|
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anything about it.
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:39:47 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Comes the Inquisitor
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Mentioning just the first name may not have been necessary for
|
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UK viewers, but it was necessary for the rest of the planet.
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:37:57 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: slander vs. you on "
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I have never, at any time, owed anybody for a spec script because I
|
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don't BUY spec scripts, ever; the shows on which I have worked have on
|
|
rare occasions bought spec scripts, but then they've been bought; the only
|
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time you owe on a spec is if you used it or produced it, and I've never
|
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done that. So this person is frankly nuts.
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:38:22 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Query re Comes the I
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"Jack" was the media appellation; whether Sebastian is a first or
|
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last name is left open.
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|
I looked at who this historical figure could be, but no one else fit
|
|
into the area I wanted. It was a decision born of necessity, not whim. I
|
|
needed someone far enough removed not to have any current victims' families
|
|
still alive; someone known to a worldwide population (anonymous wouldn't
|
|
have worked because why would Sheridan have known about him, why should we
|
|
care, why should it resonate, and we'd spend time explaining what he did
|
|
that would have meant cutting out other material in the episode); the
|
|
other serial killers tend to have clear fates, whereas Jack vanished and
|
|
is thus "available" to us; visually that period makes for a striking
|
|
contrast to 2259.
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|
And, again, you have to look at who he *was*...a fanatic, trying to
|
|
clean up Spittlefields (good cause) by hatred (wrong reason) and murder
|
|
(wrong means), the EXACT thing Delenn warns against at the very start of
|
|
the show. (Did you know there's a letter in the London Times for that
|
|
period that tries to explain the Ripper's motives as a cry ofr
|
|
(for) understanding about conditions in that part of London?) He felt he
|
|
was a divine messenger, learned he was not, and in bitterness has become
|
|
the single best inquisitor you could've had in that job.
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|
Every single thing about Jack made him *perfect* for that role, as
|
|
mirror, menace and warning sign. So I used him. And I'd do it again.
|
|
You have to find what works best for the story, and do it.
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:38:37 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: You've done it again
|
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Thanks; it's actually a favorite episode with a lot of folks on the
|
|
show. Not too dusty, I think....
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jms
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Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:42:03 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS
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|
|
Fleer cards are due out in September. Sheridan sent an EA distress
|
|
signal; the Minbari were in genocidal mode, so it didn't matter to them
|
|
the condition of their enemy.
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|
|
RE: religion, my atheism, and religion in the show...my own
|
|
background...is my own background. Suffice to say I came to my position
|
|
as an atheist through a long, difficult and trying road.
|
|
|
|
Have I studied other religions? Yes. I was sufficiently interested
|
|
in the subject sui generis that I minored in philosophy during college,
|
|
to the point where I was about 9 credits short of a degree in the area.
|
|
(Well, and a thesis, but why quibble?) I've read the Bible cover to
|
|
cover, twice; the Bahagavad-Gita, the Book of Mormon, I've got a whole
|
|
shelfload of Zen books, books on Judaism, oriental and occidental
|
|
mythology and religion, the Koran, you name it, I've probably got it.
|
|
It falls under the general heading of, "Humanity trying to understand
|
|
itself, and its role in the universe," and that seems to me a perfectly
|
|
valid impulse. We just all take different roads to get there.
|
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jms
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|
|
Date: 13 Aug 1995 00:42:12 -0400
|
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Subject: ATTN JMS: B5 Addiction
|
|
|
|
The purpose of writing is that it should have an effect on the
|
|
audience/reader/viewer. Insofar as that happens, on what grounds could I
|
|
possibly object to folks getting into the show? (Heck, I live the darned
|
|
thing 24 hours a day, with Londo and G'Kar and Kosh and Garibaldi and
|
|
Ivanova chasing each other around in my head all day and all night; why
|
|
not spread it around a little?)
|
|
|
|
So far there's been none of the "Oh, god, what have I created here?"
|
|
you cite, because really, I've found that in general, the show tends to
|
|
attract a fairly thoughtful, bright bunch, given some of the complexity of
|
|
the story, so I'm nothing other than thrilled.
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jms
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|
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 02:23:23 -0400
|
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Subject: Delenn@TorontoTrek
|
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|
|
BTW, anybody who has a copy (audio or video tape) of Majel Barrett's
|
|
talk at Toronto Trek, in which she mentioned (positively) B5, I'd love to
|
|
get one, may even be willing to swap for it.
|
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jms
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|
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 02:26:30 -0400
|
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Subject: Re: JMS and unauthorized merch
|
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|
Yeah, any info on these guys would be great.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 02:26:46 -0400
|
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Subject: Second Year Show Sequence
|
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|
|
Denise/D.D. ...thanks!
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 02:26:59 -0400
|
|
Subject: Brits as villians (was Comes T
|
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|
|
This really is one of the nuttier threads I've seen...we've had
|
|
plenty of Brits on both sides of the issue...David Warner in Grail, the
|
|
character of the Ombuds, many others, plus our new recurring character,
|
|
Marcus Cole, a Ranger played by British actor Jason Carter...I think some
|
|
people are being just a *bit* too sensitive on this. (Also the doctor in
|
|
"Hunter/Prey" who's on the side of the angels, others.)
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 02:22:32 -0400
|
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Subject: Re: Ellison TREK Book! (from j
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|
|
Robert: Harlan is not on the nets, nor does he have a modem, so he
|
|
does not have access. He is part of the B5 team, and as such I feel no
|
|
more compunction in announcing the book than any appearance at a con by
|
|
one of our actors, or the appearance of an actor in another show or play,
|
|
which I've done from time to time. People have gone to great length to
|
|
locate my own books, and I figured the same folks would like to know about
|
|
his book, for the same reason. Finally, Harlan asked if I would do it as
|
|
a friend, since again he doesn't have ACCESS to the nets, and I obliged.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 02:24:00 -0400
|
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Subject: JMS: What Does Your Wife Think
|
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|
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...!
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I have a *wife*?
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|
|
Good heavens, why wasn't I informed? I mean, I know I've been busy,
|
|
but really....
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 03:04:17 -0400
|
|
Subject: JMS: Reflections at the Midpo
|
|
|
|
The overview still holds up pretty well, I think. Toward the end of
|
|
season two, I think things got just a *tad* too convoluted in places, so
|
|
that's being cleared up a bit, the dry brush trimmed back, the red herrings
|
|
cleared away, because we've got to start focusing on the real story, not
|
|
the misdirections. That's probably the one thing I'd go back and revise,
|
|
because in general, you can't just bring something up and walk away form
|
|
(from) it later; it's got to either fit, or be reasonably, logically
|
|
explained away. So some time has to be spent on that now. But that's
|
|
been done pretty effectively in this first batch of episodes, and now
|
|
we're down to really cranking on the shadow war.
|
|
|
|
In four more episodes (writing-wise), I'll be at the exact midpoint
|
|
in the story, which on one level is a little hard to believe; it's gont
|
|
(gone) by so fast. Seems like yesterday that we just got started. Which
|
|
is why the overview is very helpful; by constantly reminding me where we
|
|
should be, it doesn't let me get lost in the neverwhere of TV production.
|
|
|
|
All things considered...we've had some bumps on the ride, a detour
|
|
here and there, the occasional flat tire, but doggone it if the old
|
|
jalopy ain't still going exactly where it's supposed to go. Some days the
|
|
thing seems to have a mind of its own; I started writing #7 the other day,
|
|
and I'm well past halfway finished writing it, it's coming out almost as
|
|
though it already existed, and I've just managed to "tune into" it, like
|
|
the sculpter who knows that inside a block of wood is a horse, he just has
|
|
to start chopping and cutting until he finds and releases it.
|
|
|
|
So long answer to a short question...we're still on course, and I'm
|
|
still quite pleased with where we're going, and how we're getting there.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 02:31:16 -0400
|
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Q about the B5 "Bibl
|
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|
|
Eventually I may publish my notes on the series, assuming it's worth
|
|
publishing.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 03:06:37 -0400
|
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Subject: Attn JMS: Butterfly Costumes
|
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|
|
Where Delenn gets all those wardrobe changes is one of those
|
|
questions that, in a real world, doesn't warrant close scrutiny.
|
|
|
|
And yes, her costumes tend to be emblematic of where the character
|
|
is, and who she is. Consequently, there will be some year three additions
|
|
to underscore her more assertive nature; there's a green costume in
|
|
particular that shows up in the first episode that's just *killer*.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 18:11:18 -0400
|
|
Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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To Robert Merritt: I hear your concern. My only thoughts on it,
|
|
are that it really isn't a contradiction on Harlan's views on ST, since
|
|
it's very vehement about what happened, and why, and includes the text
|
|
of the TV Guide piece, so you know right off that it's totally
|
|
consistent with his prior statements.
|
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|
|
The other thing is the notion of what he's said about people on
|
|
the Internet...this has been blown out of proportion. He has been often
|
|
and consistently ill-used by some people on the nets who have used this
|
|
great technology to put together anti-Ellison groups, to harrass and
|
|
chivvy him at every turn; it has led to fax bombs, abusive mail, harmful
|
|
rumors, even threats of various sorts, so you can, I think, understand
|
|
why his feelings are not bunny-rabbit cute toward us.
|
|
|
|
At the same time, though, he has never, to my knowledge anyway,
|
|
dismissed ALL netters; he's addressed his concerns to the venal and
|
|
petty dysfunctional (of which we know a few here in our own neck of the
|
|
woods) who *abuse* the technology. Heck, he's even begun diving into
|
|
the water lately, doing some on-line conferences to better educate
|
|
himself on the process. So I don't think we should take his comments
|
|
directed at a portion of the users, and extend them to include everyone
|
|
here, because I don't believe that is the intent or purpose of the
|
|
message from Harlan. Just a thought for you....
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:58:02 -0400
|
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Subject: Abuse of this newsgroup by JMS
|
|
|
|
On this system, there are discussions of where to find Micro
|
|
Machines, prices on toys, where to find the soundtrack, where to find my
|
|
prior books, where to find cassettes of previous work by other actors,
|
|
and nobody raised a peep about this. The notification about Harlan's
|
|
book falls into exactly that same category; if people have a problem with
|
|
Harlan, that's their problem, but to say the rest of this is and has been
|
|
okay, but to single this out, is hypocrisy at its most obvious.
|
|
|
|
I have, on occasion, used this forum to point people to things
|
|
I thought would be of interest, related to their interests, including the
|
|
PBS airing of "The Wrong Trousers," which I promoted here all over the
|
|
place, and which helped lots of them find a show they loved.
|
|
|
|
So if we're going to make an issue out of this, then we should no
|
|
longer tell anyone where they can find the sountracks, or the toys, or
|
|
the books, or the prices thereof, or actors other work, or my other
|
|
books, which have no relation to B5 other than that I wrote them.
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|
|
If this were strictly an advertisement for something that had nothing
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to do with B5, then that's one thing, but Harlan Ellison is Babylon 5's
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Conceptual Consultant, and has been for going on three years now, and I
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see absolutely *NO* reason, moral or ethical, why he should be denied the
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support of this forum except some people's compulsion to attack anything
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involving Harlan.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:57:39 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS. Is PTEN going to rec
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No, there's no chance of reconsidering, if for no other reason than
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it takes minimum 6 weeks to get changes plugged into TV Guide, and that
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window is gone.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:58:24 -0400
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Subject: Mr. JMS: Psi Badges
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No, no company has yet licensed B5 badges or pins, including psi
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corps pins.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 17:34:14 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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Dennis, what the hell is this "abuse of celebrity" you cite here?
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And what the hell is with this comparison of murdering people? Are you
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seriously equating telling people about Harlan's book with murder? Because
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that's what you say in response to Blair's note that it's supportive of a
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friend. "So is killing your friend's enemies." That's a horeshit
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and inappropriate metaphor, and you've *got* to know that.
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And "abusing" celebrity...please define that for me, Dennis, because
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I'd like to know, specifically, what we're talking about without resorting
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to loaded language and jingoism and catchphrases. My mandate for what to
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discuss here is pretty damned broad, from where I sit, and I noted in a
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prior note the ways in which this is NOTHING different than what has been
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done here before, consistently, in non-directly-B5 related ways.
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When it came to keeping out story ideas, rather than moderate this
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group, I went to a moderated feed to my mailbox, because I didn't want to
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inconvenience this group. I spend *hours* a day here, sometimes as many
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as five hours at a shot, over the course of a day, and I don't ask for
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squat in return, I don't ask for personal favors except the non-story idea
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deal which is professional not personal, I answer *endless* questions
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about TV production, and the industry, many of which have NOTHING to do
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with B5 except that they're both television media...and you're telling me
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that the one time I want to do something for someone who works on this
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show, you're gonna bust my chops and accuse me of abusing my position?
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I've taken a lot of cheap shots in my time in this forum, but this
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one has to take prize. Totally aside from everything noted in the
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paragraph immediately preceding this one, there was absolutely NOTHING
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unjustified or inappropriate in that message, given what's gone before.
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Nothing.
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Hell, there have been order forms for the soundtrack posted here,
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prices and phone numbers, forms to give to stores to order the comic or
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the soundtracks, I look at the message headers and there's someone giving
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the ISBN numbers for my prior books which have nothing to do with B5...I
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haven't seen anybody say one damned word about any of that. This is
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absolutely NO different.
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Give me a fucking break already. This is ridiculous.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 17:34:38 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Kosh's Personal Pronouns
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Re: the reference in "War Prayer."
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Oops.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 17:37:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: Help: Big Bang Refunds?
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"Cassandra" has nothing to do with respect; it comes from the idea
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of someone warning about possible harm, and nobody believing until it's
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too late.
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E?Ka y`rAnd by the way, Colin, it wasn't just "one man's opinion," it was
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the opinion of me and every other cast member who was there for the
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Planet Hollywood thing. And it was the opinion of people who *were
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there*, and however a "feeding frenzy" might bother you, it was also the
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absolute truth, as has been borne out by facts. And sometimes those who
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jump in when they think a "feeding frenzy" is going on, without knowing
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all the facts, end up doing more harm than good, however well-intentioned
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their actions.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 18:04:41 -0400
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Subject: Big Bang: Finally over for me
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I find it very strange that those at the Emperor's Headquarters
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would say they weren't involved in CMC, that it was Tom and some anonymousM+@%~@~
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U<G*D,2
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would say they weren't involved in CMC, that it was Tom and some anonymous
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backers, since the business information provided to me by Tom early on
|
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lists the same people at T3 as partners in CMC, including Todd Fischer,
|
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who I believe owns EH.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 18:11:37 -0400
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Subject: Twilight Struggle (spoilers)
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Re: what you could see of the planet's surface...one of the side
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effects of the technology used is that, realistically, it would throw up
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a *hideous* amount of smoke, dust and debris, and you wouldn't see much
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of anything.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 21:27:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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John Robinson: yeah, sometimes I get a little long-winded...it
|
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probably would've been more effective if shorter, but I just get all
|
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excited about something some times, like this book, and before I know
|
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what happened, I'm looking at paragraphs, I tell you, whole
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PARAgraphs....and then I get confused and fall down.
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jms
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Date: 14 Aug 1995 20:37:50 -0400
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Subject: Big Bang URGENT from jms
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If I have seemed a bit easily annoyed lately, there is a reason for
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it. Addressing that reason will require some assistance from some of you
|
|
reading this.
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After, and during the Big Bang incident, word began to filter back to
|
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me that Tom Christofferson was engaging in a smear campaign against many
|
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of those involved in B5. This includes me, Claudia, Michael O'Hare and
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|
others. This on top of never paying the balance of Michael's fee, not
|
|
paying Mark Hamill, not paying (I'm told) the photographers, or security,
|
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or travel agents....
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So I have been biding my time, waiting and collecting reports as they
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|
have come back to me. Several have confirmed Tom's comments, in an attempt
|
|
to discredit my comments about BB, that I had been "thrown out of the
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Writers Guild," plus other aspersions on my career. Other comments about
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|
Claudia's personal life have been logged.
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|
Over the last few days, some more aspects of this have come to light
|
|
that have pushed this entire situation over the edge, to the point where
|
|
we are now going to have to take serious action, because people are being
|
|
hurt.
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|
Here is a brief quote from a letter that arrived by mail from
|
|
someone reliable, and involved with the Visions convention. Two quick
|
|
prefaces: 1) Michael O'Hare had been contacted by Visions about doing a
|
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convention for them; that discussion suddenly and mysteriously stopped a
|
|
little while ago, and 2) For those who were there, and know, at the Chicago
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Comic Con, when Michael O'Hare was stiffed for $5,000 by Tom Christofferson
|
|
and Big Bang, I conducted the one and only fundraiser I've ever done, to
|
|
make up the difference, and show what fandom was *really* about. It was a
|
|
shining moment for all involved.
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|
Now the quotes. (The source has asked for public anonymity for the
|
|
time being, even though we in-house know who this person is.)
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"One of the things that REALLY disturbed me is the following
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|
malicious rumor. Supposedly, the "real" reason JMS had to hold the
|
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script auction at Chicago Comic Con was 9$?Bnot because Michael O'Hare
|
|
wasn't paid by CMC, but because "he has a bad cocaine habit" and therefore
|
|
"never has any money." Apparently JMS supports this particular abuse
|
|
by raising money to help him out. Normally, I'd ignore this sort of
|
|
thing, but people on the Visions convention staff believe it enough to
|
|
not want MOH coming to the convention this year."
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|
Enough is enough. This is flatly and totally untrue, and is put out
|
|
only to try and disguise the truth, that CMC did not pay Michael th
|
|
balance of his fee. There has to be some excuse cooked up, and this is it,
|
|
one whose side effect could be to help destroy someone's career, and ruin
|
|
convention appearances.
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|
Those involved in this slander -- and that is *exactly* what it is,
|
|
not to mention several other charges -- have had enough rope, and now we
|
|
intend to reel it in.
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|
|
Over the next several days, I will be contacting legal counsel in
|
|
Illinois, including the DA's office, and coordinating with others who
|
|
have been harmed in this way to bring serious charges against those
|
|
involved. I think a $50 million lawsuit would be a good place to start.
|
|
We will also investigate the question of possible criminal charges to be
|
|
filed. We will seek to include Hamill's bad checks, and O'Hare's
|
|
situation, and others who have not been paid as well, to broaden out the
|
|
charges.
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|
That to save face for their actions, certain individuals would be
|
|
willing to destroy someone's career, to spread false and malicious
|
|
rumors, against me, and Michael, and Claudia, and others, is something
|
|
that should rightfully inflame every person reading this.
|
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|
|
Those behind this are *not* nice people. And they have had a
|
|
tendency to run their mouths. (Those at Visions who may have been
|
|
involved in spreading this malicious slander should also consider
|
|
themselves put on notice, and I suggest that they be forthcoming in this
|
|
matter to us to avoid legal entanglements.)
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I know that many folks here have had conversations with Tom C.
|
|
in which he has laid out some of his lines. Some have felt, in their
|
|
messages to me, unsure about repeating what he said because it's like
|
|
snitching. It's not. What we are looking at are harmful lies that will
|
|
hurt people, have already hurt Michael, and have the potential to do so
|
|
in future. This must be addressed, severely, and firmly, and within the
|
|
parameters of a court of law.
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|
If you have been privy to these or other baseless allegations, and
|
|
wish to help Michael and myself and others involved in Babylon 5 by
|
|
fighting this, please send me a private note containing your best
|
|
recollection of what you were told, and when, and if you are wiling to
|
|
restate this under oath. The more people we have who confirm some of the
|
|
hateful things being represented, the more surely this can be
|
|
prosecuted.
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Michael O'Hare has been harmed enough by the loss, by the lies, by
|
|
the failure to meet a promised payment by CMC; Mark Hamill is out well
|
|
over $20,000 from various areas, others have been hurt; to have certain
|
|
individuals out there alleging drug abuse when none exists, trying to
|
|
destroy someone's career on top of everything else to cover their own
|
|
incompetence and deception, cannot and must not be tolerated.
|
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|
Once again, I extend a request for help to everyone out there who
|
|
has had contact with Visions and CMC and Tom Christofferson, on behalf
|
|
of the fans, and B5 personnel, who have been harmed. If you can help us
|
|
to close this down, please do so.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:54:20 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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|
|
"He (Harlan Ellison) needs the bucks for his medicare payments."
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|
|
Robert Holland...Harlan makes well into six figures annually.
|
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|
So let's talk about *your* income now, shall we?
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|
|
And if that strikes you as a cold, mean-spirited comment...you had
|
|
it coming.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:04:58 -0400
|
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Subject: Expressing Appreciation to JMS
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Bruce: that's very much appreciated, thanks.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:01:46 -0400
|
|
Subject: Re: Babblings 222 - Meeting Re
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|
I don't understand (only getting the tail end of this)...I was not
|
|
at any Babblings gathering at any Page's bar. Did I miss something?
|
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jms
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|
Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:16:22 -0400
|
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Subject: Attn: JMS Paladin of the lost
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|
|
Actually, "Paladin of the Lost Hour" was done by the TZ2 crew before
|
|
my incarnation a year later, so I'm not responsible for that one by
|
|
Harlan (though I will accept credit for helping bring "Crazy As a Soup
|
|
Sandwich" by HE to the screen).
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|
|
|
And yes, it's a hell of a good story. Did I mention here that HE
|
|
just did a reading of this very story, "Paladin" for the Harlan Ellison
|
|
Record Collection, the very first such reading put out on CD? That you
|
|
can obtain copies of this splendiferous CD by contacting HERC at PO Box
|
|
55548, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423?
|
|
|
|
And why am I mentioning it here now? Oh....just to honk off Dennis
|
|
a little more. And because by my on-line clock, I've now been on for
|
|
3 hours, 39 minutes, 39 seconds (I literally have to answer everything
|
|
on-line in this news reader or it can't get through), going through 975
|
|
messages, and after a while, y'know...what the heck....
|
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jms
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|
|
Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:54:50 -0400
|
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Regarding Mark Hamil
|
|
|
|
We've talked to Mark about appearing on the show someday, and he
|
|
probably will, when we've got the right story.
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jms
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|
|
Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:55:46 -0400
|
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Subject: Comments on the Big Bang Con!!
|
|
|
|
The fans are in *no* way responsible for the problems at the con,
|
|
that's a whole other situation.
|
|
|
|
I love your comment that Tom "let JMS out of JMSs contract with the
|
|
con," since I'd never SIGNED a contract of any kind. This is yet another
|
|
untruth from Tom C.
|
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|
jms
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|
|
Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:56:26 -0400
|
|
Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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|
|
Robert Holland: my, how venal you get, how you imply and weasel
|
|
around the truth. And, frankly, just lie.
|
|
|
|
"He (Harlan) dislikes fans of any kind. Including his own." This is
|
|
an outright fabrication.
|
|
|
|
I *very* rarely mention stuff for sale on here, except in response
|
|
to requests from others. Further, the #1 comment from people is that
|
|
they would like more merchandise. Why is there so little? Because for
|
|
2 years, I've dragged my heels, resisted and held back on merchandising,
|
|
because I don't want it to get out of hand. This is a matter of
|
|
longstanding public record. So much for your "sell sell sell" notion.
|
|
|
|
"I had the impression Ellison's limited-press book wasn't selling
|
|
well through regular channels." Impossible, since the book isn't even
|
|
on the STANDS yet. Further, one of the reasons for putting the word out
|
|
was that they were fast running out of copies...of the 1,000 run limited,
|
|
only about 300 remained availabe, and those were gone quickly, so the
|
|
limited is sold out. Since most of these were being grabbed up by
|
|
collectors and others, none of whom tend to frequent the net, I figured
|
|
I'd put the word out to others who might now know before they were all
|
|
gone. So, so much for THAT bit of fabrication.
|
|
|
|
"(Harlan) writes scripts, then takes his name off when he doesn't
|
|
like the editing." This is standard WGA policy if a writer feels that
|
|
the end result does not reflect his intent, and he doesn't mind burning
|
|
the occasional bridge. Where in here is the problem? That's his right.
|
|
Same right attendent upon ALL WGA members, and used by many. So what?
|
|
|
|
"The oddest thing is that Ellison isn't writing any scripts for
|
|
B5...he must have some resentment or disagreement with the arc...very,
|
|
very strange."
|
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|
|
No, there's nothing odd or strange here, except in that venal little
|
|
pea-pod you consider your cranial cavity. Harlan is up to his ears in
|
|
other work, putting out a monthly comic over which he sees every single
|
|
tiny aspect, writing for other shows (including the new anthology cable
|
|
series "Hunger," for which series several leading directors are now
|
|
vying for his completed script), a bunch of new short stories, getting
|
|
the "City" book out the door, getting "Slippage" out the door, getting
|
|
through two angioplasties and substantial earthquake damage which caused
|
|
personal injuries...AND serving on B5 as consultant.
|
|
|
|
If he had a problem with anything, he wouldn't keep signing on
|
|
every year. On the one hand, you chastize him for taking his name off
|
|
projects if they're not to his liking, then assume somehow he's working
|
|
on and lending his name to something not of his liking. That you cannot
|
|
see the paralogia and fuzzy logic there is breathtaking.
|
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|
|
Harlan, in short, has a life.
|
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|
|
You may want to consider acquiring one of your own...preferably not
|
|
one modeled after the Borgias, which seems your current inclination.
|
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:00:38 -0400
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Subject: Re: Help: Big Bang Refunds JMS
|
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|
I don't think it's so much "feeling" that I'm responsible for the
|
|
cast members, and for the fans, I *am* responsible for them, on some
|
|
levels. Particularly in the case of Big Bang, because I foolishly and
|
|
stupidly fell for the okeydoke and said it looked like a good thing prior
|
|
to flying out and personally checking the thing out...at which point every
|
|
alarm bell in my brain began ringing overtime.
|
|
|
|
If B5 is used as endorsement, inducement or connection to an event,
|
|
a product, anything, it has to be done *right*, or people are going to get
|
|
burned. And there's no one out there in that position of verification
|
|
but me. So I tend to be somewhat protective of our fans, and our cast.
|
|
|
|
And, I guess, for me, in a lot of ways this show is personal...it's
|
|
potentially the last thing I'll do for TV, if it goes the full 5 years,
|
|
and this is the thing you do for yourself, to leave something you hope
|
|
will be of value behind, that will survive you. You're not just doing it
|
|
for the money, you're doing it because you kinda *have* to, and when it
|
|
gets reduced to that, or exploited, or those who believe in the show are
|
|
exploited, or ripped off, or conned, or cheated, or given something that
|
|
is inferior or cheap...I go into meltdown.
|
|
|
|
It is, to quote a Twilight Zone episode about a pitchman, the pitch
|
|
of a lifetime...one for the angels.
|
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|
And I guess it's because, being a fan, I've been ripped off same as
|
|
everybody else, and I won't have it here. I refuse.
|
|
|
|
Finally, in the BB case, I feel particularly strongly; we're fighting
|
|
for Mark every bit as hard as for the regular B5 cast, as for the fans.
|
|
And, again, *I* can be found...others who ran BB can't. So many of those
|
|
screwed over come to me...and I've heard some doozies...because they
|
|
can't do anything about it. But I can. And I will.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:02:17 -0400
|
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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|
|
Dennis: you consider Harlan a "bigot" because he thinks some netters
|
|
are stupid, ignorant, flame-baiting, offensive, venal, vindictive,
|
|
spiteful little web-weasels.
|
|
|
|
Yeah, Dennis, you know, you're right...looking at some of the notes
|
|
that've come my way, I can't *imagine* where he EVER got a notion like
|
|
that...it can ONLY be bigotry, can't POSSIBLY be true.
|
|
|
|
Thank you for clearing this up.
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jms
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|
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:02:43 -0400
|
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Subject: Re: Big Bang URGENT from jms
|
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|
|
Mike: the other thing that's so annoying in the note you critiqued,
|
|
the "wealthy actors" bit, is that in syndication in particular, ain't
|
|
NObody getting wealthy. Right across the board, the rates for actors,
|
|
writers and producers are roughly HALF what they are at the network
|
|
level. Whereas a network hour script gets about $25,000 or more, the
|
|
going rate for syndication is $14,000. Actors also have a very different
|
|
scale for syndication vs. network. (This is one of the inequities that
|
|
I think needs to be addressed in light of the growth of syndication; the
|
|
rates were originally given to help syndication get a leg up; well, it's
|
|
GOT its leg up...also the other leg, both arms and a head.)
|
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|
|
(Which is why I also find it amusing when someone snipes at me for
|
|
the money I'm making on B5...I was making more as a lowly co-producer on
|
|
MURDER, SHE WROTE than I'm making NOW as Executive Producer of B5 on a
|
|
per-episode salary basis. But I left M,SW *anyway* to do this because,
|
|
frankly, it's more important to me than just about anything.)
|
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|
|
We make this show for UNDER $1 million per episode, as compared to
|
|
DS9, which goes for $1.4 to $1.6 million per episode. And we put it all
|
|
on-screen. So believe me, ain't NObody getting rich off this show.
|
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jms
|
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(Which is a long way of saying...I agree with you, you're right.)
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:05:37 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS:CopperCon?
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Don't think I'll make CopperCon this year, alas.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:06:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: Big Bang URGENT from jms
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Laura: suffice to say I've had a very good conversation with the
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Visions people, who seem to basically be good folks who got stuck in a
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bad situation, and we're having some very positive, constructive
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discussions, they're being quite forthright and helpful.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:53:43 -0400
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Subject: jms: Lines of Excellence Quote
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"The exercise of vital powers, along lines of excellence, in a life
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affording them scope." It's not so much a quote as the Greek definition
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of happiness. I've always felt that contained just about everything you
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need.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:56:58 -0400
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Subject: ATTN: JMS <SPOILERS> THE FALL
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Max: thanks.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:58:07 -0400
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Subject: JMS: CtI and Sebastian's last
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Sebastian's final words were part of the same sentence he began
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while speaking directly to Sheridan's face...insofar as I have ever
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considered the scene, he IS talking to Sheridan.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 06:58:36 -0400
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Subject: What's it like? (Was Attn JMS:
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What's it like for me? Race to the studio in the morning, run from
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one meeting to another, with directors, art department, costume department,
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prosthetics, grab an hour with the door closed to write my brains out,
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maybe get onto the stage for 5 minutes to watch a particular delicate
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scene being shot, race back to more meetings, race off to editing, grab
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another couple hours writing, race home, grab a sandwich, write a few
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hours, and do BBSing.
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Sometimes, in all that, it's very possible to actually forget what it
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is you're doing, to forget to *enjoy* it, because you're too much in it
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("the world is too much with us"). That happens, alas, all too often.
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But every once in a while, one realizes just what one *is* doing,
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from some comments on the BBS (holy smoke, the episode WORKED!), to
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days like today, when there's one scene in particular in dailies with
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G'Kar and Londo, that is *so* perfect, *so* brilliant a performance
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that you realize suddenly what you're doing, and what you've touched,
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and then, for a moment, it's fun.
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Then there's another meeting....
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Well, I figure I'll probably most enjoy all this long after it's
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finished.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:07:07 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: TFoN: Congrats!( Vag
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The B5 ep C4 is showing on the weekend is a repeat.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:10:05 -0400
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Subject: StarQuest'95 and Warner Brothe
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Here's what has transpired.
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Some time ago, I warned many people here about publicly offering to
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make lots and lots of copies of B5 episodes -- the final 4 -- from the UK
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to the US. I was concerned about this on many levels.
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In the midst of this, one of the netters faxed WB Legal Affairs a
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series of copies of these posts. At which point WBLA went into total
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and complete meltdown, due to the copyright violation aspects, which are
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rightfully their concern.
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They have been with us since, and now monitor the nets.
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Public offers of substantial video copying will *invariably* bring
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in such things.
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Ivanova's Rule #9: I will *listen* to jms.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:12:27 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Stellar Occasion '95
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With regrets, I won't be able to work out stopping by Stellar
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Occasions this year.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:13:24 -0400
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Subject: Re: Ghostbusters episode you M
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Actually, the GBs episode "Night Game," about the baseball game,
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though story edited by me, was written by Kathryn Drennan, author of
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"By Any Means Necessary." She wrote two other GBs, "Egon's Dragon" and
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"The Man Who Never Reached Home."
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:14:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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You know when you can tell that one side of an argument has gone
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belly-up? When they resort to inappropriate metaphor.
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"Well, what if jms posted a Get Rich Quick letter? Or molested a
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fan in an elevator? Or committed murder? Or bombed the World Trade
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Center? Or...or...or...."
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Because they cannot logically defend the area that is under debate,
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they attempt to redefine the debate to something that is indefensible,
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and *totally* irrelevant. It's not "What if X did Y," it's "Here's X,
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and let's just discuss what DID happen, not what might happen in
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somebody's fevered imagination."
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This is SO stupid....
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:14:47 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS MID-POINT
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No, I was responding to a note re: midpoing in the series from a
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total point of view, i.e., on a 5 year run, year 3 is the midpoint, and
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in fact, in another month or so, I'll have written episode 11 of year
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three, which is the *exact* halfway point on that axis.
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I put *zero* faith in the Syd Field school of thought.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 07:17:11 -0400
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Subject: ATTN: JMS The Fall of Night
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Thanks; it's a good start, and we've got a long road ahead of us,
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but believe me the encouragement is appreciated.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 02:35:24 -0400
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Subject: Attn JMS: Have you ever wonder
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I wish I could see it without foreknowledge...I think that'd be
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great, but alas it can't be.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 02:32:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: The Wrong Trousers (was Re
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BTW, from the same guy who did "A Grand Day Out" and "The Wrong
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Trousers"....he's doing a new project, a black and white film noire
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clay-animation short, whose name I don't recall, but all of the parts are
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played by Kirk Douglas (or figures representing Kirk) at various points
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of his career...I've seen a few clips, and they're *hysterical*.
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BTW#2...I heard today that "The Wrong Trousers" is now on sale on
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cassette at many video stores. If you haven't seen this, go out and either
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rent the tape or buy it, it's a sheer, unadulterated, no-holds-barred
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delight, one of the few things that has sent me crashing to the floor with
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unbridled, hysterical, eyes-watering laughter. It's *that* good.
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BTW#3...if that's another advertisement...who cares, it's nifty.
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jms
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Date: 18 Aug 1995 02:26:51 -0400
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Subject: Attn JMS:Question on B5 soundt
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No gold/silver CDs to my knowledge from Chris.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 18:25:57 -0400
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Subject: Murder She Wrote on USA Thursd
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As it happens, Tomorrow (Tuesday) one of my other M,SW episodes is
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on, entitled "Incident in Lot 7," which has a little fun at the expense
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of Hitchcock. Prentiss wasn't exactly what I'd envisoned for the role,
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but overall it came out okay.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 21:28:31 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Character Developmen
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All scripts are tightly scripted. The actors are not involved at
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that level. When the script lands on the stage, it's performed as
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written. If an actor has a problem with a particular word or line, I'm
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happy to take a suggestion or provide an alternate word. But that's it.
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This is in part because with a 5-year story, with foreshadowing, changing
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one word could have major repercussions. And because it's my show, and
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it'll be done the way I wrote it. I didn't work five years to get this
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show on the air to turn it over to any committee of any kind.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 18:23:41 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: E-mail
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I do accept email from strangers, yes, though due to the massive
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amount of mail, public and private, it has to be understood that I can't
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engage in detailed, lengthy correspondence in private mail.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 19:37:14 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgro
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Re: a few demented souls who think nobody should ever be treated
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any different than they are (which also omits responsibility for ones
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own behavior)...anybody here see HARRISON BERGERON on Showtime, based
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loosely on the Kurt Vonnegut story? What great timing....
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 19:36:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: MBTI?
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Nope, but once took the MMPI, Minnesota Multiphasic Personality
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Inventory, as part of getting my Psych degree.
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Think it said I came out to a PITA...Pain In The Ass.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 19:38:41 -0400
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Subject: Help help I'm being repr-
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Here's the ultimate irony. I write one message that honks off, oh,
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I'd say maybe 6 guys out of the 10,000 or so who hang out here, and they
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pillory me endlessly...and in so doing, write dozens of messages that
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honk off *hundreds* of people, probably more from my email, even go so far
|
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as to insult those people directly...but THAT'S okay.
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Where's the Red Queen when you really need her...?
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 19:36:13 -0400
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Subject: Attn JMS: Have you read ...
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No, haven't read it, but will try to check it out.
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Thanks.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 19:36:37 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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Robert Holland: in one message from you, you take a shot at Harlan's
|
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income (or what you perceive as his income), saying "He needs the bucks
|
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for his medicare payments."
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But then, when I turn the question back to you, and your income, you
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say, "of the many measures of a man, income is nominal."
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So which is it, Robert? Or is it only irrelevant when it's you, and
|
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relevant when it's somebody at whom you choose to snipe?
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Hypocrite.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 21:01:10 -0400
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Subject: New Ship (ATN JMS)
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The odds of the EAS Straczynski ever showing up in a B5 episode are
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slim and none.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 21:08:25 -0400
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Subject: Mr. JMS: Network vs. Syndicati
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Correct: while the money and PR budget for syndication is about half
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what network shows get, the trade-off is that you're left alone, and you
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get full season orders, rather than 6 eps, or 12 eps with a possible
|
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buy in the back nine. It lets you relax and just do the show rather than
|
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constantly looking over your shoulder.
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We have not had a script note since the 3rd ep of year two; haven't
|
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had a note on a producer's cut of a ep since year one. They trust us more
|
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and leave us alone more, in large measure due to being in syndication,
|
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and I'll trade *any* amount of money for that freedom. We could *never*
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have done "Believers" or "Confessions" on network TV, given their sense
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that SF = KidVid.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 21:34:48 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: General Thoughts pos
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Alan: thanks, comments like that really help us keep going.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 21:36:34 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: How is quality of B5
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Unfortunately, there is no one overseeing that aspect of it, and I
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can only trust in blind fate at this pointl.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 21:40:16 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS:
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Zack wasn't in the opening credits for year two because he came in
|
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with just one or two eps going in...but the more we saw him, the more
|
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we knew he could give us just what we were looking for in one part of the
|
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overall story, and so it grew. And the Fleer cards have several
|
|
different approaches...arc cards, episode cards, character cards and
|
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so on.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 20:58:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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My software, and the GEnie software, does not quote; if I want to
|
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quote someone, I have to *retype* the whole bloody quote.
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I sometimes think I'd like to apply that to folks who quote a 432
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line message, just to add "I agree!" at the end.
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jms
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Date: 21 Aug 1995 21:30:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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Kelly: thanks. I had a good five year ride with HOUR 25, and though
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there were some problems, enjoyed it thoroughly.
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jms
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Date: 22 Aug 1995 02:17:19 -0400
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Subject: BAD NEWS ON B5 EFFECTS EMMY!
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Yeah, unfortunately this is a year where we're against the Earth 2
|
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and Voyager 2-hour pilots, upon which they spent *hideous* amounts of
|
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money, with considerable publicity. But hey, we'll take the 3 emmy noms
|
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we've already gotten and be happy.
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jms
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Date: 22 Aug 1995 02:17:35 -0400
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Subject: B5 Comic cancelled according t
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#11 is the last regular, monthly issue. However, DC has contracted
|
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for roughly 13 more issues to be published in one-shot specials and
|
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4-issue miniseries over the course of the coming year. This is a done
|
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deal, ink on the contract and all that.
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jms
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Date: 22 Aug 1995 18:00:27 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: What happens AFTER B
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There's always been the possibility of a side-story that would go off
|
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in the B5 universe, after the B5 main story, but frankly the odds on that
|
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happening are extremely slim at best, I think.
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Other than that...if B5 goes its full 5 year run, as I've noted here
|
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before, at that point (1998) the tentative plan is for me to retire from
|
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TV, go back to writing plays and novels. I figure I'll have said all I
|
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have to say in TV, and at that point you get off the damned stage.
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About the only thing that could lure me back, aside from a B5 side
|
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story, would be an anthology series, because I love that form dearly, but
|
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the odds of that are even smaller; there seems such growing discontent
|
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with the genre at the studios, despite some small successes here and
|
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there.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:03:09 -0400
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Subject: ATT JMS>>>OTHER VORLONS???????
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Yeah, I kinda think you'd *have* to see more Vorlons than just
|
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Kosh after a while, yes...?
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:01:47 -0400
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Subject: ATTN: JMS: Jeff Conaway questi
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You can send the material to Jeff c/o Babylon 5, Suite 260,
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14431 Ventura Boulevard, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 22:13:48 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Reading speed?
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I actuallly don't know what my reading speed is; I do know it's
|
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pretty fast -- I was reading at college level while in 9th grade,
|
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according to tests at the time -- but actual speed, I don't know. Never
|
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took a speed reading course, though; I figure, if somebody took two years
|
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to write a book, you shouldn't blow through it in two hours.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:06:58 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Bester
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Walter's first appearance this season will be in "Dust to Dust,"
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#306.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:13:32 -0400
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Subject: Attn JMS: B5 Bloopers Tape
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Bloopers are not currently available, but may become so down the
|
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road a bit.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:12:26 -0400
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Will Cards have spoi
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I worked with the writer doing the cards to make sure that the info
|
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on the final four does not contain spoilers.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 22:40:16 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Updating the WHAM Estima
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Yeah, I'd say the wham percentage still holds; there are fewer in
|
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the first part of the season, but more in the latter half of year three,
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so it really does work out to about half.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:16:05 -0400
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Subject: Milton Katulas???
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I have no idea if there's a relationship, but I'll try to remember to
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ask.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 22:19:22 -0400
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Subject: JMS: Change of Pace / Change o
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Good idea, Steven, and what I'll try to do is post a couple of
|
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background items as you suggest, get that process going agian.
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(again)
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 22:17:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: Abuse of this newsgroup by
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"Joe's over-reaction to my statement makes me believe 'he doth
|
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protest too much.'"
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Nope. It's physics. The bigger the stink, the bigger the "ewwww."
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 22:16:02 -0400
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Subject: The Price of the Peace
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David Shao: pressure on the group regarding any character's sexuality
|
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will result in zip from me. I don't give in on that on either side of
|
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the question. We've touched on elements of this in "Divided Loyalties,"
|
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and will again in future. Not because of any pressure, but because it is
|
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what I choose to do with my show.
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I appreciate your interest, but B5 is what it is because I have
|
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always tried to follow my heart, and not surrender control of that to any
|
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network, studio, focus group or any OTHER group. It is what it is, take
|
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it or leave it.
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I would also suggest that, since you were the one who faxed messages
|
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from this system to Warner Bros. Legal Affairs, concerning the UK final
|
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four tapes, resulting in their now continued presence here, I would suggest
|
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that you have already had a substantial impact on things here...why not
|
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leave well enough alone for now in other areas?
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:27:03 -0400
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Subject: I don't know ...
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The books and comics and other ancillary material is considered
|
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complementary but never required.
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jms
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Date: 23 Aug 1995 21:25:35 -0400
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Subject: ATTN jms:Costume Designer
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Yes, Anne Bruice got married just a bit before we began shooting on
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year three.
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jms
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Date: 24 Aug 1995 17:38:08 -0400
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Subject: ATTN: JMS - Great Show!!
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Thanks; it's my abiding hope that the show will function primarily to
|
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a) engender discussion on the issues raised, and b) create a sense of
|
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wonder, because both, I think, are somewhat lacking around us.
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jms
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Date: 24 Aug 1995 17:38:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: The Price of the Peace
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David...leaving totally aside the issue of the tapes for now, even
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though that was your motivating factor...it's a breach of the ethics of
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this system to send postings by others, myself included, to the people at
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Warner Bros. Second, we were already *handling* the issue, were already
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dealing with it. Until that moment, I referred matters of concern to
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those empowered to act, at the proper, lower-level areas. What your
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letter did was to embroil the two heads of Warner Bros., who until that
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moment didn't know the system much existed.
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And now folks from legal affairs regularly monitor the nets. Because
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you poked the head of the dragon. You can explain to your heart's content,
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but that is the consequence of your actions. It was wrong.
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Again *we were dealing with it*. But once your letter crossed
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certain desks, who were unaware of the fact that we were dealing with it,
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the call went out, "What the hell is THIS?" If you needed information,
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it was right here, and any question could've been answered by me. And,
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in fact, was. By essentially ratting out the entire group to WB Legal,
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however well-intentioned your motives, you've caused me problems in having
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to then go back and fix the damage, explaining that we were already on
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top of the issue, and caused others problems as well.
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I wasn't going to make a federal case out of this, but when I saw
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your note indicating possibly yet ANOTHER cause celebre you were about to
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start throwing around out there, and urging action, I worried, given how
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this LAST one was handled. Or mishandled.
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Sometimes, David, it's best to just leave things alone....
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jms
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Date: 24 Aug 1995 20:02:14 -0400
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Subject: Re: Mr. JMS: Network vs. Syndi
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You want to know what it comes down to? What it *really* comes down
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to? Here it is.
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This was stated by a network exec: "Look, the reality is, anybody
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with money these days has got cable, they've got VCRs, laserdisks, so the
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networks get what's left, the guys without a lot of money, or education,
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and that's going to have to be our target audience."
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jms
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Subject: "straczynski" a common name? (
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Date: 27 Aug 1995 04:00:22 -0400
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Straczynski is a very uncommon name; the only ones who have it are
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actual relatives. There are only about a dozen or so in the whle
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(whole) country (yes, I've checked).
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jms
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Subject: Sublime language (was Re: Attn
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Date: 27 Aug 1995 05:58:55 -0400
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I do have certain linguistic elements that I tend to re-use to
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subconsciously define the characters a bit. Londo tends to use verbal
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prologs a lot, "It occurs to me," "You know, I was thinking," that sort
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of thing, which connotes that he's always working through what he's going
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to say before he says it, and puts the pronoun I or Me at the center of
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his way of thinking. I often insert "Yes?" in his dialogue ("A great
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shame, yes?" "A terrible thing, is it not?") and variations to hint at
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the notion that this is a person looking for acceptance, validation,
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agreement.
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Where Londo tends to put his personal pronoun at the beginning of
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his lines, Delenn has a tendency to put them at the end of her sentences,
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de-emphasizing personal importance. Sometimes it lends her a kind of
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prolix speech pattern, but that's an inevitable consequence of that kind
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of structure; sometimes the verbs also get shoved back in the sentence,
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giving things a somewhat Germanic structure.
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So some elements of phraseology, grammer, even phrases per se do
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tend to recur, but I try to keep them mainly to that person, or to that
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group, as a device to reinforce identity.
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jms
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Subject: Re: "straczynski" a common nam
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 02:07:16 -0400
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Yeah, the John Straczynski in Arizona is a cousin on my father's
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brother's side...as noted, if it's spelled exactly the same, then the
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person is always a direct blood relative.
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jms
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Subject: JMS: S. Furst's schedule (was
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 02:10:11 -0400
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The shared days, when Stephen does our show in the morning, and then
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the other show in the afternoons, are only when necessary; we're using
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him also during his hiatuses (hiati?) from the other show, so we have him
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all day every day for as much as a week at a time.
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We were happy to accommodate on this because while Stephen's role
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on B5 will always be important, and will grow, the role is such that Vir
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will/can never be the star of the story, whereas in the sitcom he has the
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chance to be the lead, and we think that's worth supporting.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: *OLD* ? about B5 pil
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 02:12:06 -0400
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The pendant was a gift to Michael from his son, and he asked to wear
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it in that shot.
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jms
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Subject: What to do? Pre-October Fun
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 02:13:36 -0400
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Also recommend: The Haunting (of Hill House) and Seconds.
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jms
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Subject: Scarcity raises value :-) WAS
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 02:14:58 -0400
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Having read that...well, *I'm* tired now....
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jms
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Subject: Apologies to JMS, WB, et al...
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 02:16:30 -0400
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The main problem, as I understand it, is the issue of the shows that
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have not aired here yet, which touches international law re: copyright;
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in general, though, if someone has made a tape of something, and wishes
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to show it to a group of friends, and no cost is attached, I'm not aware
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of any complications to this.
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jms
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Subject: Is JMS still here?
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 18:08:05 -0400
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I'm never quite all here on the best of days.
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jms
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Subject: B5 and Jung (was Re: Shadows/V
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 18:44:13 -0400
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Well reasoned. An analysis of some of the stuff in Jungian terms,
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as I've noted here before, is not entirely unproductive.
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It really is a hodgepodge of bits and pieces, a Frankenstein monster
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assembled from elements of myth, and archetype, and history that I've been
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kind of subconsciously assembling over a long, long time.
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Certainly the issue touches strongly on the whole question of who we
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are, how we define ourselves, our place in the universe (as we perceive
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it, and as we are *able* to perceive it, stuck as we are in th
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metaphorical fishbowl).
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One of the problems, I feel, when film makers or novelists use Joseph
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Campbell's approach to storytelling is that they're going by the numbers
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in terms of the *action* involved (okay, the hero has a trial to endure,
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enters the cave, and so on), without looking to, or paying attention to,
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the philosophical/mythological underpinnings of the actions, what they
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MEAN in a larger context, what they are meant to tell us about ourselves
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and the world.
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So it's an ongoing process to redefine the myths, and in so doing
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redefine the way we perceive ourselves. Or something like that.
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jms
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Subject: Re: Does B5's Anonymity Bother
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Date: 29 Aug 1995 18:52:56 -0400
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Part of the problem in this discussion comes down to TeeVee
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Terminology and how the industry works, or doesn't, logically or
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otherwise. It's the difference between ratings, rankings, demographics
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and other niceties.
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Just to get into this for a second...you have two shows on competing
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networks: Lois and Clark and Murder, She Wrote. M,SW gets *substantially*
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higher ratings than L&C. Now, which is more profitable for the network?
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Answer: Lois and Clark. Because the show attracts the demographics
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(males/females 18-40) that advertisers want. So the commercials on that
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show sell for more than M,SW commercials, which generally reach a much
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older and, from an advertiser's POV, less meaningful demographic.
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So a show can be lower rated, but more successful. It's definitely
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Alice in Wonderland reasoning, but there you are. That's why CBS is
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frantically trying to up their demographics, and why they hate shows like
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Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman. It's one of their few ratings hits, but it
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doesn't draw the right demographics. They need the show for the PR
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value, to maintain a presence in the top shows, but they hate it behind
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the scenes.
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B5 is slowly starting to crack two audiences: the ST audience, and
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the mainstream audience. I frequently hear from people whose letters and
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email (some of it visible here) begins, "I don't usually watch SF, but I
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have started watching B5." ,\gsC
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Our ratings need not ever be as big as the ST shows to be as
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profitable, particularly since we only cost about half what they cost.
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If they go up a point or two, say to a sustained 4.5 or 5 or better,
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which I think is possible this season, we're golden; if we sustain or
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build just a little, we're still okay.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Control groups?
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:24:25 -0400
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The funny thing is, on the control groups where I lurk, there is
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generally LESS speculation and "let's guess the story" and story ideas
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than where I *am* around. Generally, what you tend to get are simply
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people's reactions to stuff...I liked this one, or didn't like that one,
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how come they did something stupid, where can I get info...that sort of
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thing.
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My experience has been that the *most* critical nets are the ones
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where I'm known to hang out, because folks know their concerns have a
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chance of reaching me. That's probably the biggest difference.
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jms
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Subject: SPOILERS and Peculiar Event Al
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:24:39 -0400
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Yeah, I'd say it's fair to say that you haven't heard the last of
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Interplanetary Expeditions. Remember the rule: before you use the gun,
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you show it on the mantle. You play fair. And create the context in
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which the payoff later works.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: B5 MM TNG?
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:48:55 -0400
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The box for the new MicroMachines installment came through my hands
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for approval about a week ago (two new boxes, actually), so my *guess* is
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that they'll be hitting the stands in about a month.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Allusion to Sciento
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:49:41 -0400
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The use of markabs was definitely NOT a reference to Scientology in
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any way, manner, shape or form.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Are You Ever Surpris
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:49:59 -0400
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In *general*, the P5 ratings poll tends to reflect my own opinions
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of the show, which is generally a good thing, I suppose. The ones I
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think are knockouts tend to do well. From time to time, I'm a bit
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surprised -- I still think that Parliament of Dreams is rated lower than
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I'd rate it, ditto for Soul Hunter and one or two others -- but what I've
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found is that generally the real serious episodes get rated higher, while
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the lighter ones (like Geometry of Shadows, which is still something of a
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favorite) get rated lower.
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What's great is that this season, we haven't had one single episode on
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the level of War Prayer or Infection or Grail, some of our weaker first
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season eps. The worst we've done is pretty darned good. What we're now
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working for in year three is that they're all better than that at their
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baseline rating. And so far, they're killer...our second episode for year
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three, "Convictions," has a very different feel from anything we've done
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on the show to date, a very dark, scary and gritty feel, and probably one
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of the best character sequences in the series to date. We're also doing
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some major EFX blow-outs of a type other than "they go into space and
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shoot stuff." Very interesting, creative, offbeat stuff.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Costume question
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:49:23 -0400
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I think it came out of the Victoria's Secrets catalog....
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Why doesn't HBO car
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:51:41 -0400
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1) HBO turned down B5 years ago. 2) HBO does not do regular dramatic
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series a la B5; they do sitcoms, and anthologies, but not this kind of show.
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jms
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Subject: JMS: Still "Getting Dark?"
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:52:16 -0400
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"It's Getting Dark" was originally planned to be my third published
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novel after "OtherSyde," but in the interim, after I began writing it (and
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IGD was planned to be a modest sized novel, 500 pages max), I stumbled
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upon a much better and, unfortunately, bigger story I wanted to write, a
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contemporary dark fantasy whose title is too cool to sacrifice by giving it
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out here. The new book will probably be about 1,000 pages, give or take,
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and I've got all the research and reference stuff here, ready to go, as oon
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(soon) as I have the time to write it, when B5 is done.
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jms
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Subject: Question about casting
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:52:37 -0400
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Garibaldi will *definitely* be in season three, is in even now, and
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is being used better now than before.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: B5 Writing Process
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:53:26 -0400
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B5 was *never*, ever, at any time, pitched on the nets, or even
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discussed on the nets, while it was in development. Not even the name
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was ever said. So I don't know where this particular myth has come
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from.
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The first time I ever started talking about B5 (except in an offhand
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reference in a Starlog article) on the nets was about November 1991, when
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we'd finally been given the go-ahead for production on the pilot movie,
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but couldn't officially talk about it until WB announced it. During that
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time, I only described it as "That Which Cannot Be Named" (TWCBN for
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short) on GEnie.
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jms
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Subject: Re: FS: softcover "Demon Night
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 04:53:04 -0400
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Bantam put out a paperback version of DEMON NIGHT; no softcover has
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been published of the hardcover edition of OTHERSYDE; my anthology, TALES
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FROM THE NEW TWILIGHT ZONE, was only published in paperback.
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jms
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Subject: Ellison & the Inquisitor
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 05:06:56 -0400
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Harlan was not involved with the creation of the Inquisitor.
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jms
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Subject: JMS: Because we care... (Was:
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 05:06:38 -0400
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I have taken the comments for what they have been worth.
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I have also begun having others start my car for me.
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jms
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Subject: ATTN JMS: Candle motif
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Date: 31 Aug 1995 05:20:09 -0400
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Candles are, I think, wonderfully emblematic of life, and of being
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a single ray of light, or hope, in a dark place. The Grey Council stands
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between the candle and the star; watch G'Kar's action re: a candle in his
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quarters...and in that scene (for those who've seen TLTS) note how many
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candles are in the room in the beginning, and at the end.
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We are the candle that burns brightly, stubbornly, effectively...but
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briefly.
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jms
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