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SPECULATING LYTA
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Pat Tallman reveals much regarding her B5 character, her background and
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herself.
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As told to The Zocalo's Features editor, JC WIlliamson (WiseGuise@AOL.com)
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Z: When you did "The Gathering," the B5 universe was all new. Did you get
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details in advance re: Lyta's background, personality, motivations, what
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PsiCorps was all about? Did you develop your own character profile, beyond
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what the script specified? (For example, Lyta was very spirited and
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expressive. Was that your own spin on her, or was that requested?)
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PT: Yes, the B5 universe was all new. The best thing about B5 is Joe
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Straczynski. His talent and enthusiasim made B5 a pleasure. He was the very
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first thing in the B5 realm that I met. As we went through the casting
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prosess, and finally the shoot, he would share his universe. I then filled
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in Lyta's personality. Joe told me her education and how the Psi Corps came
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to be, then I made choices to determine her persona. Such as: Joe said that
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young "Talent" would be taken from home and the Corps would nurture the
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talent and assign an older Psi Corps Talent to be a surrogate parent. To me,
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Lyta seemed to be a loner, and lonely, so I chose that Lyta's surrogate
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didn't bond to her well, was jealous of her talent, and left Lyta on her own
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alot. She is socially a bit stunted, but deep inside a loving soul. That's
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how the doctor and Tamlin in the pilot are able to convince Lyta to go
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against her programing to save Kosh. Also that shows you how strong Lyta is.
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That strength was needed for Lyta to get into Vorlon space and survive.
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That's why they chose her. Lyta and I share the quality you asked about,
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the expressiveness. Joe saw that in "Night of the Living Dead" and wanted me
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for Lyta.
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Z: The "privacy" scene between Lyta and G'Kar, in "The Gathering," is a B5
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classic. While we don't actually know how she finally responded to him,
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we're left with the definite impression that she turned his proposal down.
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Still, she seemed more astonished than disinterested (and now they both have
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gills!) Other Earthgrrrls do seem to like that Narn and his pleasure
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threshold promises. So in *your* opinion, was she perhaps tempted?
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PT: *Pat* is fascinated with G'Kar, so I guess Lyta is too. I think she was
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repulsed at first at the idea of having sex to make an offspring just for the
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genes. But when Andreas added his flirtation at the end, i.e. Pleasure
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Threshold, I think the picture in her mind left her speechless! I am in love
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with Andreas, so I have always hoped there would be some kind of relationship
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with him. While I was pregnant, I had the idea to go to the set, appear in
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G'Kar's quarters and say "G'Kar, we gotta talk." Just for the sight gag!
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But I never seemed to have the time.
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Z: The fact that Lyta is the only Human to have scanned a Vorlon seemed too
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powerful to waste. When the series proceeded without Lyta, did you expect
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her to return, later in the storyline?
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PT: I never expected Lyta to return, I couldn't alow myself to hope. I am
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thrilled to have the chance to keep Lyta alive, and explore B5. I was so
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pleased with the " Divided Loyalties" script. What a return!
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Z: When you saw the script for "Divided Loyalties," did her changes surprise
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you?
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PT: Her development was even more than I had hoped for. I think Lyta
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trusted Kosh. She saw God, she threw herself into his service, with out
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regard for what might happen to her. She knows Kosh knows what is in her
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heart. He let her know there was a place for her. She is to be his soldier,
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and thats all she cares about.
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Z: After "Divided Loyalties," what did you suppose SHE thought might happen
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to her, should she finally be admitted into Vorlon Space? (What *she* thinks
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might not be what JMS thinks ;-)
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PT: Joe might not agree with all this, but it doesn't matter really. He
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writes the scripts! Lyta was called by Kosh, she hears him everynight, hears
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his song, and that's what keeps her strong and sane. The "sane" part
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Garabaldi might not agree with, but he hasn't been inside a Vorlon!
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Z: Now that we've seen "Passing Through Gesthemene" ... and without trying
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to press you for spoilers .... was Lyta playing with Londo's head or can she
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really plant dreams and images in others' minds? Could she always do that,
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or is this a new, Vorlonesque skill?
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PT: Yes , Lyta can really mess with Londo's mind. She is an expanded talent.
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I think Lyta thinks she is in full command of her choices.
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Z: Do *you* think Lyta is in full command of her choices? Kosh and the
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Vorlons are using her as a soldier, presumably for the side of light -- but
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are they, perhaps, manipulating her at a deeper, subconscious level?
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PT: I don't think at this point she would be upset if the Vorlons didn't
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tell her every thing. She believes in the biggness of their missions. I
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don't know (wouldn't even hazzard to guess ) how deep this goes. They could
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be doing any number of things to her. As we have discussed in the make-up
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trailor, Lyta could be a Vorlon sex toy for all I know.
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Z: That last scene in PTG ! When Lyta and Kosh connect ....
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PT: I am not exactly sure what goes on between Kosh and Lyta, but I had
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thought it more a Master and Grasshopper relationship than sexual. Actually,
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When you totally trust, worship and adore someone, that can get pretty sexy
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can't it?
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Z: For "Divided loyalties," you returned to a cast with few familar faces.
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Did that affect the way you got back into your character? What was it like
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to come onto the presumably well-entrenched set of a two-year-old series?
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PT: I felt welcomed and supported by the cast. They are terrific people and
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I think they were a bit concerned for my ease. They made the transition a
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pleasure. Lyta's a loner anyway! I'd love to be a part of a "family."
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Maybe someday!
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Z: How would you characterize the different directing styles on "The
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Gathering" and "Divided Loyalties?" They are quite different from a
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viewing perspective -- were they different from your perspective as an actor?
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PT: I think I like the speed of working on T.V. It's tough! But you can get
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into a rythum with it. I still have yet to feel comfortable at it! We shot
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the pilot at top speed too.
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Z: One was essentially a movie and the other episodic television. Did that
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make a difference in the way you and the others worked?
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PT: The difference was that on the pilot, we had to work out the bugs as we
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went. We had to get used to each other, find a routine that worked. Just as
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we were about to really hone it to an art, we finished! The series IS honed
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to an art. They are all so used to working with each other, and know the
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routine, they have to find ways to break it! Or go crazy!
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Z: Your athleticism came through nicely in "The Gathering" -- is stunt work
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a big part of your business? Is that how you started in Hollywood, or where
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you an actress first -- or both?
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PT: I was an actress before I became a stunt woman. I have been classicaly
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trained. Theater is my first love. While I was pregnant, since I couldnt do
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stunts, I performed in 2 plays. The second one was written for us. I make my
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living doing stunts. Some of the bigger pictures I had the good fortune to
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be in were; Jurrassic Park ( Laura Dern's stunt double), Speed, Forrest Gump,
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The Flintstones, Addams Family Values, Cobb ( which I also coordinated a
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sequence), and Generations. I was 5 months pregnant by the time we finished
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Generations.
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Z: I think we recently saw you, as an ensign, getting a fatal zapping in a
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recent DS9 episode! You've been Nana Visitor's stunt-double on "Star Trek:
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DS9." Have you done many Trek turns? Or other myriad Science Fiction roles?
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PT: I have worked quite a bit on The Next Generation, DS9, and Voyager.
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Sometimes I have a little part and then blow up, or get shot, or fall or
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something! I've been every alien there is, I think!
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Z: Has your new motherhood changed your career ambitions or limited your
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opportunities and working schedule? Do shows make accommodations for you as
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a mother?
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PT: I have a one year old son, Julian, who is my life. I have really been
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out of the loop now for awhile so I could be home with him. I'm still breast
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feeding, so I'm a little more "zaftig" than usual, and that makes squeezing
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into a Star Fleet uniform a bit difficult. But I refuse to compromise
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mothering because of a job. B5 is much easier to do than other shows for a
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couple of reasons. Bruce, Jerry & Andrea and Andreas are all parents, and so
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are several others! So I have a lot of understanding around me. Claudia
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loves kids, our hair and make-up women are wonderful and always offer to
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help, ect! Plus, when you are an actor, you are treated better, and have more
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leaway than just being stunts. So if I wanted to have my babysitter in my
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trailor no one would mind, whereas I couldn't do that as a stuntwoman. I'm
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faced with the situation of now needing to make sure I have regular work, so
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I'll be doing more stunts in1996.
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Z: Since you subscribe to "The Zocalo," we assume you are a fellow B5 fan
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<G> Are you a fan of SciFi, beyond B5 and Trek?
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PT: I have always loved Science fiction and fantasy. I read alot. It's
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harder now with a baby, but I manage. And I'm an X-Files squid. (I'm like
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the Lone Gunmen: I think everyone is suspect!) I would very much like to
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know what the fans think ... I really am interested!
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Z: Trust us ... The B5ers will let you know <G> We at "The Zocalo" thank
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you especially, Pat!
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