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_Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
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- [13]Notes - [14]JMS
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Overview
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Draal helps the crew attempt to contact more of the First Ones.
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Sheridan works to hide his conspiracy from the Nightwatch.
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[15]Shari Shattuck as Julie Musante. [16]John Schuck as Draal.
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[17]P5 Rating: [18]8.20
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Production number: 304
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Original air week: January 29, 1996
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Written by J. Michael Straczynski
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Directed by Menachem Binitsky
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Backplot
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* Morden was directly involved in the assassination of President
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Santiago, and was in contact with then-Vice President Clark at the
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time.
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* There is bad blood of some kind between the Vorlons and at least
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some of the First Ones.
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* G'Kar's operatives have told him something of the Rangers, though
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they don't know the whole story. He suspects Delenn is involved
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somehow.
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* The Ministry of Peace is planning to purge a number of high-level
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officials from the Earth government on charges of sedition,
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immoral conduct, and espionage. It has gained even wider powers
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recently, including the ability to investigate people based on
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past associations.
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Unanswered Questions
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* Why were the First Ones upset at the Vorlons? Could it be related
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to the reason the Vorlons stayed behind when the other First Ones
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left? What did they say to Ivanova?
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* What does G'Kar want Garibaldi to find out from the Book of
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G'Quan? The book mentions the Shadows; how detailed is its
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information?
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* How did the Machine record the conversation between Clark and
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Morden? Is it monitoring all communications in a vast region of
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space, or does it concentrate on Shadow-related conversations?
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* What impact will the recording have?
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* Will Musante return to the station? What did she make of Zack's
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question? Will she link it to the release of the recording?
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Analysis
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* The First Ones at Sigma 957 were annoyed at the mention of the
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Vorlons, suggesting that the two races had a disagreement at some
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point in the past. Perhaps the Vorlons prevented, intentionally or
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otherwise, the final defeat of the Shadows in the previous war. It
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could also have something to do with the Vorlons' manipulation of
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younger races ([19]"The Fall of Night.") Perhaps the Vorlons
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didn't depart with the other First Ones because they weren't
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allowed to do so.
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* "When it is time, come to this place. Call our name. We will be
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here." But what _is_ their name? Does Draal know? Did the
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recognition code the White Star sent call them by name, or is this
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an additional hurdle to obtaining help from the Sigma 957 aliens?
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* The manifestation of the First Ones bore some resemblance to a
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Native American totem, or an African wood figure. Coincidence, or
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are the Vorlons far from the only visitors to Earth?
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* Ivanova was able to extract more information from the Great
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Machine than any normal human could have, according to Draal, and
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she managed to find a pretty specific recording in what must have
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been huge mountains of data (literally!) Is that due to her latent
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psi ability? What would happen if a full telepath like Lyta were
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to step into the machine? (See [20]below.)
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* The Shadows (if that's what they were) sensed Ivanova's "presence"
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at Sigma 957. That implies that the Machine was actually
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projecting something there rather than passively scanning, and
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that the projection was tangible enough to provoke Ivanova to
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comment that the enemy "knows my name," an odd remark in itself.
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* There may be something significant in Draal's use of the term "the
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enemy" to describe Ivanova's visitors; he didn't say "Shadows." On
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the other hand, given that she heard the typical Shadow chitter
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and that the floating lights were in the same pattern as the
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glowing Shadow eyes seen by Sheridan in Kosh's vision ([21]"In the
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Shadow of Z'ha'dum," and in the season three title sequence) it's
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probably safe to assume that she was in fact being observed by the
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Shadows.
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* Just how much contact there was between Ivanova and the Shadows
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wasn't clear. Did they find out enough about her to know about the
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conspiracy of light? Did they have a hand in her discovery of the
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Clark recording? Given their apparent affinity for chaos in the
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ranks of potential enemies, the release of the recording and the
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subsequent upheaval on Earth might be exactly what they want.
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* The fact that Ivanova was able to escape the Shadows by returning
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to the "path" that connects all living things is perhaps more
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significant; what does it imply about the Shadows that they're
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somehow excluded from that path? Does that have anything to do
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with their motive in participating in war after war across the
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millenia?
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* Presumably the machine was projecting Ivanova's consciousness out
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among the stars; her greater-than-expected control over the
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machine, as mentioned above, suggests that the experience was
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telepathic in nature. That implies that to sense her, the Shadows
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must have some telepathic abilities as well; or perhaps they have
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a machine like Draal's that can provide the equivalent.
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* The path might be related to the way telepathy works in the first
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place; if all life is connected on some level, then perhaps
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telepaths are simply beings who can make use of those connections.
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The Shadows' involvement with Psi Corps ([22]"Matters of Honor,"
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among others) suggests that they consider telepaths important;
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that may relate to their apparent exclusion from the path as noted
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above. There may also be a reason they chose to use the Narn
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homeworld as a base in the last war ([23]"Matters of Honor") --
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the Narn have no telepaths of their own ([24]"The Gathering.") A
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more sinister possibility is that the Shadow occupation is the
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_reason_ there are no Narn telepaths; perhaps the Shadows
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eliminated them, leaving the Narn without the genetic code for psi
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ability. If that's true, they may be cultivating contacts with the
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Psi Corps so they have an easy way to do the same to humans when
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the time comes.
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* The assignment of a "political officer" to military units is
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reminiscent of the way in which the Soviet Union maintained
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control over military units. Each unit had its own political
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officer whose job it was to maintain ideological purity. These
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officers were tolerated at best, and were generally despised and
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feared.
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* Another link to Soviet history was Musante's allusion to purging a
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number of high officials in a very public and permanent way. This
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brings to mind the purges experienced by the Soviet Union in the
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30s -- the great show trials of prominent individuals, the mass
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purges of the army (which wrought such havoc over the military
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that, by the time that the Soviets were actively engaged in World
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War II, most of the experienced officers had been removed, thus
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weakening the Soviet army to the point where the Germans felt they
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could easily defeat the Soviets.)
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* Why would Musante have to be recalled to Earth? Is she the
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low-level operative she appears to be, or someone more important?
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Perhaps the Nightwatch is simply short-staffed enough that they
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need all the manpower they can get to deal with such a potentially
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damaging situation.
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* Delenn's denial of knowledge about the Rangers was an out-and-out
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lie, not a deception or a mistruth or a careful omission. Whose
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honor was she protecting, or does that rule no longer apply to
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her? ([25]"There All the Honor Lies") Perhaps, since her
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transformation, she no longer feels quite so bound by Minbari
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tradition; on the other hand, she still seems to cite it
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regularly.
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* Zack's uniform troubles may be a metaphor for his situation; he
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doesn't know where he fits in the scheme of things, and is
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uncomfortable no matter what he does.
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* Now that Ivanova has made contact with the First Ones at Sigma
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957, might the forces of light be able to use the quantium-40 (if
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there actually is any on the planet) that Catherine Sakai was sent
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to investigate in [26]"Mind War?"
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Notes
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* The First Ones at Sigma 957 were first seen in the first-season
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episode [27]"Mind War." Although the existence of the First Ones
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hadn't been revealed at that point, G'Kar's description of this
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race coincided almost exactly with Delenn's description of the
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First Ones, an early piece of foreshadowing.
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* Julie Musante is named after two fans, Julie Helmer and Mark
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Musante.
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* Musante's Earth-bound ship is the Loki, named for the Norse god of
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fire and mischief.
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* The silhouetted figure on the Nightwatch poster on the wall during
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Musante's presentation bears a striking resemblance to the figure
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of Lenin used in Soviet propaganda posters between World Wars I
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and II.
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* The same figure also appears to have a raven on its shoulder,
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reminiscent of Ivanova's appearance in Sheridan's dream in
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[28]"All Alone in the Night."
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* The skeletal spines sticking out of the Sigma 957 aliens' ship are
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made of a computer model of a human footbone replicated and
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arranged in rows; that earned the ship the nickname "the footbone
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ship" at Foundation Imaging. There are also some triceratops parts
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used in the model.
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* Ardwight Chamberlain, who does Kosh's voice (or rather, the
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English translation thereof) was also the voice of the First One
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in this episode. (See [29]jms speaks.)
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jms speaks
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* I do plan to do more with Ivanova this season, yes, and get her
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out of C&C a bit more often. (Especially in "Voices of Authority,"
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coming up.)
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* _Where's this big war we've been hearing about?_
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What we're doing in the meantime is plenty. Originally, the fourth
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and final episode in this first batch of four was going to be
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"Voices of Authority," which deals with just this question of
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preparing for the war in a big way, has major developments, gets
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into the White Star...but the CGI requirements of that episode
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were hideous, so we had to move it to #5 in the lineup, moving up
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"Gethsemane." Once we come back with new episodes, we'll hit the
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ground running hard on all this stuff.
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Also bear in mind that wars aren't instant; in the real world, you
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have to line up support, get into alliances, move all your pieces
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around before you can get into it. We're taking a similar path
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here. Also, the term "shadow war" refers to more than just the
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shadows as a race; they refer to what's going on back on earth as
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well, as metaphor as well as plot point, and that's a huge part of
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the next batch of eps.
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* Yeah, I'd intended to end with "Voices of Authority," which is a
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HUGE arc episode this week, but the EFX weren't ready yet (huge
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requirements), so we put "Passing" in its place.
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* It takes us no longer to make the episodes or the EFX really than
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it did before. But PTEN will not air shows out of sweeps periods,
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for the most part. The episodes on hand now were finished weeks,
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and in a couple of cases over a month ago. They sit on the shelf
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until PTEN decides to air them. The only thing we did was swap
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"VoA" with "Passing Through Gethsemane" to give that one a little
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bit more time. That's it.
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* _You should use Claudia Christian more._
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You're absolutely correct, which is why in the very first episode
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up in the next batch, we send Ivanova off in the White Star as its
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commander, and we involve her and her charactder more strongly in
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subsequent episodes as well.
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* "Voices of Authority" - Earth begins tightening the screws on the
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folks at B5 to try and exert more control there. Steps are taken
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to help prepare for the shadow conflict. (Here, again, the "shadow
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war" means both the obvious, and the more subtle conflict brewing
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at home; it's description and metaphor.) The White Star voyages to
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some territory not seen since the first episode, Ivanova helms the
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ship, a major dramatic turning point is reached, and there is the
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single funniest scene in probably the series to date. A strong arc
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story.
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* If you want some fun with your wham, and there's a lot of fun to
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be had in this one, go for the first one up, "Voices of
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Authority." If you want serious, serious wham, go for "Messages
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From Earth."
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* As y'all know, next week the latest batch of new episodes begins
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to air. The first one up, "Voices of Authority," is an absolute
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hoot; if you've been looking to bring in other viewers, that's a
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good one to start them with, because it sets up a lot of what's
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going to happen in this episode, it has a lot of background, and
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it's a lot of fun.
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The next two are somewhat more straightforward, stand-alones (to
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some extent; there's some arc stuff there, however, which becomes
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more important later). Then the last two in this batch represent
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some of the best work we've ever done, "Messages From Earth" and
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"Point of No Return." They follow directly on the footsteps of
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"Voices," so those three together would be great for new viewers.
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* If you're talking about the conference room scene...Draal wasn't
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put into the scene digitally. You do a split screen, with the
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camera locked off. In one Delenn walks over to a point just short
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of the line; in another you get a shot just of the wall; then
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Draal walks up. You then use a dissolve technique to fade him into
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the room on his side of the split screen. But he's not being put
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*into* the room, he's already there, so he's neither bigger nor
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smaller than he is in real life, since he IS in real life there,
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not added in.
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* _And what about the machine room scene on the planet?_
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We shot two plates, first with him in the machine, then him out,
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never moving the camera, so it matched exactly.
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* The crew you see on the White Star doesn't reflect those in other
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parts of the ship. Also, being fairly advanced, it doesn't require
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a big crew in command. You could even fly it single-handedly if it
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came to that.
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* _The First Ones sure have fragile egos._
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The other part, I think, is that they were kind of amused to see
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this dinky little ship getting in their face, when they *knew* the
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First Ones could blast 'em to bits....
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* Ivanova wanted to get in the face of the First Ones, to say,
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"Look, you can blow me away, but damn it, listen to me." If she'd
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said that "more reverently," as your friend noted, it would've
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worked against the logic of the scene and the resolution.
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* _Would it be fair to say the First Ones weren't pleased to hear
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the Vorlons mentioned?_ Fair, yes.
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* Well, this isn't a *literal* translation, because some words don't
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translate, but the *sense* of the sentence would be "the vorlons
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can kiss my ____."
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* _Was the mask image just a representation, or was it what the
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Walkers actually look like?_
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It's certainly a form of representation, an icon, rather than the
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literal entity, yes.
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* "So who is older, the Shadows or the Walkers???"
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The shadows, but just by a smidge.
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* _Why didn't they recognize Morden's voice?_
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Who said they didn't recognize it?
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* What's fun, for me, about the Minipax lady, is that she *clearly*
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knows that this is a game on one level, her comment about just
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rewriting the dictionary...she knows the problems aren't *really*
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gone, they just defined them away. But when she's in front of a
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crowd of folks predisposed to her message, she goes full-tilt.
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Showmanship.....
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* _A lot of the Nightwatch members looked pretty disturbed by what
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Musante was saying._
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Now the weeding out process starts.
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* _What do civilians think of Nightwatch?_
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Some are scared of Nightwatch, others feel it's a good thing, and
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darn it, it's about time....
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* On the other hand, Zack *didn't* rat out the code 7-R stuff to her
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in any detail. He's absolutely caught between the two sides, and
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not sure which way to jump.
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* _Parallels between Nightwatch and the Gestapo?_
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While yes, there are some intentional WW II parallels here, do
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bear in mind that you don't have to go all the way back to the
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Gestapo to find this kind of mentality...Sen. McCarthy would've
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been quite at home in Nightwatch.
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* _Is Nightwatch going to clear the lurkers out of the station?_
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Nightwatch has bigger goals than dealing with lurkers....
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* _Is the Nightwatch the same group referred to as Bureau 13 in
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[30]"A Spider in the Web?"_
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No, the Bureau would've been a secret organization, a la the NSA
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or a covert military/spy group. This is a much more public face.
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* The political officer: improbable dialogue? Most of it was taken
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direct from political statements, public ones, made by Goebbels,
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Hitler, Joseph McCarthy, Stalin, and other fanatics. The kind of
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Big Lie dialogue people continue to fall for today. Go to a Pat
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Buchanan rally sometime and tell me it's unlikely dialogue.
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* DLyulkin...exactly. You don't just take something and transplant
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it wholecloth...you change and modify it. Nightwatch was never
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meant to be on a one-to-one corrolation to the SS, or Stasi, or
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McCarthy...the whole POINT is that this kind of mentality crops up
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in new forms from time to time, in different names, different
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approaches, but at its heartmeat core the same thing. By saying
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it's "That over there," we can relax, since that specific incident
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can't recur...making us vulnerable to the next version.
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* Yes, those were shadow eyes; and it was probably a raven on the
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poster.
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* _Can the machine see everywhere, or can it be blocked?_
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No, Varn's people aren't first ones...and the machine can be
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blocked.
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* My sense was that basically Ivanova jumped onto the wrong path as
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she fled...the shadows were in proximity, and she ended up briefly
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on their path, which took her to the interception of the
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transmission.
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The one comment that I find most interesting, repeated here a few
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times, is that they didn't buy the Nightwitch (as some have dubbed
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her) because in her address to the Nightwatch, she was not exactly
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what you might call subtle, and thus nobody'd believe her, and see
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her for what she was.
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I find it interesting because we always think we're smarter than
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that, when history proves *exactly* the opposite. The Big Lie,
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spoken not just openly, but loudly, firmly and with conviction,
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has been one of the most successful tactics in history. When
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Hitler and Goebbels stood before a crowd and blamed jews for
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destroying society, circulated pamphlets with ugly cariacatures,
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indicated that they weren't *really* human (this in actual
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newsreels provided to the medical profession members charged with
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eliminating "mental defectives and jews")...when Joseph McCarthy
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stood up in front of the nation waving a list of names of commies
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in the state department, the military, congress, showbiz, and the
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sciences...the public didn't suddenly wake up, hear the voice of
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the fanatic, and say, "Hey, this guy's nuts!"
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They bought it. Because they were primed to believe it. Because
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they wanted to believe it. Because they were afraid *not* to
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believe it. No, she wasn't subtle. Because there's a time for
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subtlety, and there's a time to perform grandly for your
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hand-picked audience and go for the Big Lie. If she were
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addressing a larger audience, she might softpedal her message. To
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the Nightwatch, she's got to hammer them, just as the Hitler Youth
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were hammered, as the Anti-Communist Youth meetings were hammered
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about the Red Peril, as Croatian or Serbian soldiers were hammered
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about the need to rape women of the other "race" to make the
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resultant babies more ethnically pure...which happened.
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Most of her dialogue was paraphrased from actual speeches given
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over the decades, or longer, by fanatical leaders to their
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followers. There's bits of Hitler, of Goerring, of Goebbels...bits
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of McCarthy, bits of Stalin, bits of Pat Buchanan and Rep. Dornan.
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Because people fell for it. It did work.
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It does work.
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And it will *continue* to work...for as long as people think that
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THEY would NEVER fall for such a thing....
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* Never said they're all convinced of it. Just as all Germans
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weren't convined of the views advanced by Hitler.
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You don't need all of them. You just need *enough* of them.
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Preferably, enough of them with guns.
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Remember, too, that we just came out of the Earth/Minbari War
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about ten years ago, when we stood at the edge of extinction. The
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threat of a new alien race makes a good device.
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* _How much does Nightwatch pay members?_
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Basically, it's a weekly bonus added onto their weekly salary; 50
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creds is a pretty enticing bump, equal to about 50 pounds British.
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* _Didn't the security people already know about the assassination?_
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You have to remember that all Garibaldi's people knew was that a
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few guys came through the station that may have been involved in
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the assassination. That is NOT the same thing as showing that
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Clark is involved. There was no apparent connection. We the
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audience suspect it, from what happens, but until now there has
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been no evidence of it. So yes, they know that Santiago is dead;
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that there's some indication that he may have been
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assassinated...but that's a long way from pointing to Clark.
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* _Why aren't Sheridan and company going public with this
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information?_
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With Clark removing all the evidence, and others giving orders to
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drop it, and knowing Clark would stop any kind of investigation,
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what is there for them to do officially? They had to begin working
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covertly to prove it, which is what they've been doing ever since
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"Hunter, Prey." If you're a military officer, and you're given a
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direct order from your commander in chief or the Senate Oversight
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Committee to drop something, and you violate those orders, you're
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up on charges or fired.
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* _Was that Ed Wasser's voice? (He plays Morden.)_
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It was definitely Ed Wasser.
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* _Did Musante seduce Zack?_
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No, that wasn't the relationship between her and Zack, much as he
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might've wished for it. As for the walkers at sigma 957...the
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recognition signal is their name, which is 15,000 letters long (we
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had to cut this line for time). So I can't really repeat it here.
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* _Why did she think seducing Sheridan would work?_
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Her feeling was likely that it has always worked with her in the
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past. He's widowed, probably hasn't had any in a long time, he's
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vulnerable, a perfect target.
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* Basically, like many manipulative people, she projects whatever
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she thinks will work best with her audience. Appealing to Zack's
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patriotism, trying to find Sheridan's affections by flattering him
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mercilessly (on many levels), playing the straight-chinned leader
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in an address to security forces...she puts on whatever face she
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thinks will work.
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* _Why didn't Sheridan just get rid of her?_
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This is the difference between TV logic and Real logic. In TV
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logic, yeah, she should've tossed her outta there...but we try to
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be rigorously real about the B5 universe. She was sent by the
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Senate Oversight Committee, as is their province, with the backing
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of several governmental offices, in an area over which Sheridan
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doesn't have jusrisdiction: the political arena back home. In the
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real world, you can't just toss somebody out the door because you
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don't like them...not if you're a career military officer who
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answers to a civilian authority or government.
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* _Did I imagine Marcus's line about the French?_
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You didn't imagine it....
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Part of what appeals to me is the idea that the English/French
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animosity you often see (though clearly not in all cases) would
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continue not only into the future, but outside Earth.
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Realistically, if you go into Europe, you find people holding
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grudges 500 years old, or more. Seemed appropriate to carry this
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small one forward as well.
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* I wrote that particular line; knowing the longstanding
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British/French "feud," for lack of a better term, it seemed
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appropriate.
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* _What does Marcus know about Vorlon theology?_
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Marcus was making that part up.
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* Weren't me. It was Marcus. Blame him.
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* _So the actor ad-libbed that line?_
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Actor? What actor? I'm talking about Marcus here. I just write
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down what he says.
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* _The First Ones had Kosh's voice._
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I figured that some elements of the First Ones should be
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consistent with one another; others should have specific
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differences. Using Ardwight subliminally reinforced some of the
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consistencies.
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[36][Next]
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[37]Last update: August 8, 1997
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