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<h2><a name="OV">Overview</a></h2>

<blockquote><cite>
Sheridan launches a preemptive strike against the Shadows.  Franklin
jeopardizes his life while trying to do a good deed.
</cite>

<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Prestia,+Shirley">Shirley Prestia</a> as Barbara.
<a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Gilbert-Boxleitner,+Melissa">Melissa Gilbert</a> as Anna.
</blockquote>

<pre><a href="/lurk/p5/intro.html">P5 Rating</a>: <a href="/lurk/p5/065">9.25</a>

Production number: 321
Original air week: September 15, 1996 (UK)
                   October 21, 1996 (US)
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009OOFK/thelurkersguidet">DVD release date</a>: August 12, 2003

Written by J. Michael Straczynski
Directed by Kim Friedman
</pre>

<p>
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002VUX/thelurkersguidet">An 
episodic soundtrack is available.</a>

<p>
<hr size=3>

<h2><a name="BP">Backplot</a></h2>

<ul>

   <li> In Minbari tradition, when two Minbari become close it is the
	custom for the female to keep vigil at the male's side for three nights
	while he sleeps. This is thought to reveal the male's true
	personality, because while you're asleep, you can't keep up your guard,
	and this helps the female decide whether the relationship should
	continue.

</ul>

<h2><a name="UQ">Unanswered Questions</a></h2>

<ul>

   <li> How many ships did the League worlds withhold from the battle?

   <li> How many ships were destroyed in the battle? How many people died?

   <li> Why has Anna Sheridan come to Babylon 5? Is she as much of a pawn of the
	Shadows as Morden? (See <a href="#AN">Analysis</a>)

   <li> How will Anna Sheridan's presence affect Sheridan's near-engagement to
	Delenn?

   <li>@@@847013324 How did Anna get into Sheridan's quarters?

   <li> Why have the Shadows not yet attacked Babylon 5?

   <li> How badly were the Shadows hurt by this battle?

   <li> Why did Sheridan keep dreaming the dream after Kosh died?  Is it
	because of the piece of the Vorlon inside of him, and if so, is it
	somehow guiding him?  

   <li> How did Anna know Delenn's name?  Did Morden tell her?

   <li> Were the Vorlons approached to be part of the battle fleet?

   <li> Who else might have survived the Icarus?

</ul>

<h2><a name="AN">Analysis</a></h2>
<ul>

   <li> In this battle, it's said that for each Shadow ship that was destroyed,
	two Army of Light ships were destroyed. This forces the question: who
	has more ships, the Army of Light, or the Shadows? And if the Shadows
	have as many or more, what does that bode for the coming battles of this
	war?

   <li> It's plausible that Anna Sheridan is acting on behalf of the
	Shadows just as Morden is.  Will Sheridan react to her
	presence with an understanding that she's now an emissary of the
	Shadows?

   <li>@@@847042418 Delenn had a flashforward to Anna's arrival
	(<a href="061.html">"War Without End, Part Two."</a>)
	Why, then,
	was she surprised to see Anna?  Perhaps she didn't expect it to happen
	that night.  It's also true that Anna didn't identify herself in
	Delenn's flash, so perhaps Delenn didn't get as complete a view of the
	future as Sheridan (and earlier, Garibaldi and Sinclair) did.

   <li> This episode resolves, at least initially,  most of Sheridan's dream
	from
	<a href="033.html">"All Alone in the Night."</a>
	Sheridan is "the hand," one half of a pair of opposing forces. He wears
	the Psi Corps badge to signify their alliance with Bester, and his
	position as someone in charge of large numbers of telepaths. Ivanova's
	statement, "Do you know who I am?" refers to her latent telepathic
	ability
	(<a href="041.html">"Divided Loyalties."</a>)
	However, it's still not clear who the "man in between" is.  It's also
	not clear whether Sheridan's analysis, even with the help of Delenn
	and Ivanova, is actually correct.

   <li> Perhaps Anna Sheridan is the "man in between" from Sheridan's dream,
	despite the personal pronoun problems. Or perhaps she's an envoy of that
	man.

   <li>@@@846747133 "The man in between" implies someone on the other side.
	Who might that be?

   <li>@@@846745949 Sheridan openly talked about Ivanova's latent telepathy
	in front of Delenn.  Does Ivanova no longer consider it such a secret,
	now that she's presumably beyond the reach of the Psi Corps?  Or does
	Sheridan simply trust Delenn so much that it didn't occur to him he
	might be violating Ivanova's trust?

   <li>@@@846746028 Who is the third spotlight on the Minbari flagship meant
	for?  Most likely it's simply a result of the Minbari doing everything
	in threes.  Sheridan and Delenn gave orders from more than one place
	in the tactical center, so it's probably not a matter of the lights
	denoting different functions.

   <li>@@@865734490 Garibaldi's empathy for Franklin, to the point of waiting
	next to Franklin's bed, is likely due at least in part to Garibaldi's
	own experience with substance abuse
	(<a href="011.html">"Survivors,"</a>
	among other episodes.)  He presumably knows something of what
	Franklin has been through.

   <li>@@@910036385 When Franklin and Sheridan are discussing Franklin's
	experience, the doctor comments, "Moments are all we have."
	Sheridan pauses as if remembering something.  He may be recalling
	Delenn's similar comment in
	<a href="061.html">"War Without End part 2:"</a>
	"Savor the moments, for they will never come again."

</ul>

<h2><a name="NO">Notes</a></h2>
<ul>

   <li>@@@844798195 Franklin's stumble into the crowd was reminiscent of
	two scenes from
	<a href="022.html">"Chrysalis,"</a>
	both Petrov's approach toward Garibaldi, and Garibaldi's later
	emergence at the party.

   <li> In Britain, Channel 4 edited out seven seconds of the attack on
	Franklin.

   <li> In a video message in
	<A HREF="024.html">"Revelations,"</A>
	Anna Sheridan was originally played by Beth Toussaint, not
	Melissa Gilbert.

   <li>@@@844077101 Some people have pointed out an apparent continuity
	glitch, but it's not.  When Franklin is being wheeled into medlab after
	being stabbed, he sees Garibaldi, Ivanova, and Sheridan above him, even
	though Sheridan hasn't yet arrived on the station.  But if you look
	at the surrounding shots from Franklin's point of view, it's clear
	he's simply hallucinating and imagining that the doctors around the
	gurney are his fellow officers; nowhere but that one shot do any
	people in command uniforms appear.

   <li>@@@898569598 The Egyptian blessing was first mentioned in
	<a href="026.html">"A Distant Star."</a>

</ul>

<h2><a name="JS">jms speaks</a></h2>
<ul>

   <li> It takes 7 days to film an episode.  My favorite is
	probably "Shadow Dancing," which you haven't seen yet, mainly because
	I haven't been able to poke any holes in it yet.  It's a good ep.

<p>
   <li> <em>Which of the last five episodes is your
	favorite?</em><br>
	It would be an even tie I think between the final two, "Shadow Dancing"
	and "Z'ha'dum."  The two episodes are also linked at the hip, so they're
	really more like one unit...not so much a two-parter, but siamese twins,
	story-wise.  They're both very exciting, move the arc forward hugely,
	and though they rely on a lot of backstory, are also good points for
	folks new to the show to dive in, because they also *explain* a lot of
	backstory, so they can get into it.

	<p>
	They're both just lovely, knockout episodes.  And, at times, scary as
	hell.

<p>
   <li> <em>About the UK possibly not showing the episode due to
	violent content</em><br>
	Yeah, when you get "Shadow Dancing," I'd love to see
	how much they slice outta this one....

<p>
   <li> 
	It is, not to put too fine a point on it...EXTREMELY important
	to see "Shadow Dancing."  If they choose to cut the nasty bits that's
	one thing, it won't affect what You Need To See, but to not run it at
	all would be a disaster of substantial dimensions.  Still, I imagine
	they'll run it; the nasty bits can be excised pretty well, if
	necessary, I should think.

<p>
   <li> If they cut 7 seconds, it's likely the 7 seconds of the actual stabbing
	itself, which is implicit in what happens afterward, so it shouldn't
	have a major effect on being able to follow the story.  It's a
	reasonable edit, and about what I'd expect given the general attitudes
	on TV violence among the UK TV networks.

<p>
   <li> "You've mentioned a couple times that the upcoming
	"Shadow Dancing" will be quite violent.  Should I be concerned about,
	say, my two-year old watching it?  She's as hooked on the show as I
	am, and would probably feel quite left out..."

	<p>
	This is a tough one...I've given it a lot of thought since I saw
	this, and my sense is to advise the following:

	<p>
	If you possibly can, videotape the episode.  Get the time code on the
	various pieces.  We cut in and out of two stories, an A and a B
	story.  One is violent, the other is not.  You don't have to see the
	one, or see much of it, to follow the other.  For someone as young as
	2, I'd suggest fast-forwarding past the B story stuff.  It's still
	within what's generally permitted on TV, but it is kinda harsh.

<p>
   <li> I've seen and received some email recently that seems
	to have taken a message of mine and misconstrued it.  Someone asked
	me if it were possible that "Shadow Dancing" might be snipped or
	dropped for some of the violence therein.  I offered an *opinion*
	that it might be edited, and have no idea what their plans are for
	airing the episode itself.  Let me repeat: this was only my opinion,
	offered in response to a hypothetical question.  I have *no*
	information on anything C4 might -- or might NOT -- do with "Shadow
	Dancing," so my inclination would be to wait and see what happens
	rather than acting prematurely on something that might not happen.

<p>
   <li>@@@864605945 <em>Have you ever gone walkabout?</em><br>
	Well....yeah, kinda.  Back when I was living in San Diego (before it got
	nuked...well, that hasn't happened yet, but soon)...I got into a kind of
	similar mode of thought, and would go for walks through....downtown San 
	Diego at 2-4 in the morning.  Hours, hours, hours, just walking through 
	parts of the area where I could've gotten killed.  When folks asked me
	why, I couldn't answer, all I could come up with...was that I was
	looking for something.  And I found it, kinda, and in a somewhat similar
	situation...  but that gets into some other personal areas, and this may
	not be the right forum for that.  Suffice to say I was....almost killed
	myself, and leave it at that.

<p>
   <li>@@@864605945 Here's a funny thing.

	<p>
	Well, funny weird.

	<p>
	See, every so often, someone will ask, "How much of you goes into a
	script?" and I'll answer, "More than I know at the time," and they
	ask for an example.  A few questions ago, someone asked about if I'd
	ever gone...on walkabout, and I thought of the San Diego thing...and
	it suddenly dawned on me that that was behind the Franklin thing.
	Long story short: I got attacked and mugged by a gang, and beaten
	nearly to death....and survived only by a sheer act of will.  And
	I'd honestly never, ever put that together with Walkabout, until the
	question, and suddenly there it was, I was working out *exactly*
	what I'd gone though, denying it to myself...the whole time that it
	was going on.  Well.  Anyway.  That just hit me like a ton of
	bricks, and thought I'd pass it along.

<p>
   <li>@@@864605945 In retrospect, that was something I probably should
	not have mentioned,
	and would not have, had the thing not just utterly blindsided me in the
	middle of the conference.  What got me through the attack, and its
	aftermath, those years ago, was sheer unadulterated rage...that I would
	not allow them to take my life because I had stories left in me to tell.
	And no matter what, I'd tell those stories.  At first, I'd made my peace
	with myself...I'd never gone out of my way to hurt anyone, had helped
	where I could, had done some good work...I had a few things on the
	shelf, not a lot, but a start...but then I just started to get mad about
	it, and pulled myself back from the edge.

	<p>
	So yeah, in a sense, I've faced that black, implacable wall...and it
	does drive you, after a while.  And I do think, to a large degree, I'm
	still trying to define myself, to find what it is that's at the center
	for me, beyond the work.  But then, I don't think that's terribly
	special...it seems to be the standard dilemma in an industrial society.

<p>
   <li> <em>In response to a review</em><br>
	Slight correction to the preview of the final 5 scenes at Worldcon; in
	the Delenn/Sheridan scene, she never said female Minbari can cut off the
	partner's sexual organs if they're pressed...what she said was, "If he
	forces the issue, she can complain to the elders, leave once he is
	asleep, even cut of his --"  she searches for the right word "--
	*access* to her family."  The humor is in his horror at what she
	might've been searching for in that word.  A small correction in an
	otherwise great review, but as someone once said, god is in the
	details....
	<em>[That quote is from the architect Ludwig Mies Van der Rohe.]</em>

<p>
   <li> The Minbari greeting is a hoot...there's a lot in that episode I
	just like a lot.

<p>
   <li>@@@850550678 <em>Earth is still letting people come to Babylon
	5 as tourists?</em><br>
	It's difficult and limited, but yes, there's still some travel,
	just as one may travel to countries that the US does not recognize
	officially or have diplomatic relations with.  How long they continue
	to allow this...we'll see.

<p>
   <li>@@@846747781 <em>How did Marcus heal so quickly?</em><br>
	For starters, we're talking about more than two
	weeks of story time.  Between Grey 17 and Rock was several weeks, then
	you've got about 2 weeks from Rock to Shadow Dancing.  That's five
	weeks, and now you've got the issue of medicine 250 years from now...and
	you can be sure that these kinds of injuries will be fixed much more
	quickly.  It isn't like he showed up the very next day like this, we
	*did* allow for proper amounts of time.

<p>
   <li>@@@847068834 <em>How did you think up the Shadows' strategy?</em><br>
	I dunno...I just thunk it up as efficient and ruthless.  I
	guess it comes naturally when you're a producer.

<p>
   <li>@@@846747495 "Seems to me the strategy is: wait in hyperspace "near"
	the flock of refugee ships, and when they signal for help (as they will
	when the Shadow fleet appears), pop out of hyperspace and engage the
	Shadow fleet.  The point is, the Shadow fleet is going after a known
	target (or so Sheridan guesses), if you hang around near the target,
	they will tell you when the attackers appear.  No need to for your
	ships, even a scout, to sit in normal space, the refugee ships are all
	"scout ships" in a sense."

	<p>
	Massive logic problem.  If you wait until they're right on top
	of the refugee ships, or very near, they'll just dive into the midst of
	the refugee ships and there's no way you can have a clean battle
	without resulting in *MASSIVE* amounts of civilian casualties.  What
	you suggest would all but insure that the refugee ships would be
	destroyed (defeating the purpose of the mission) and the piles of
	civilian ships running for cover in every direction would hinder our
	side, but not the other side, and we'd lose even MORE of our own ships.

	<p>
	"2) Delenn and Sheridan spend the night together and we get to
	watch... comercials. Talk about giving "short shrift" to a rather
	interesting event. Couldn't this have been pushed into a different
	episode?  I mean, here they are, alone together, in a "ostensibly"
	romantic situation, lots for them to talk about I should think.  Well,
	I'd like to know what was said... And what do we see?  Sheridan is
	already asleep!"

	<p>
	It's not a matter of being pressed for time.  The whole point of
	the ritual was to watch him sleeping.  We had that nice moment right
	before they took off with the fleet, and bunches of others, including
	the big kiss, right in the previous episode and throughout the whole
	thing.

	<p>
	"3) I think the battle could have been done with a bit more of
	an "umph" to it.  Perhaps the use of intercutting between the two plots
	was distracting in this case.  It was a good battle, just not quite as
	effective as "Severed Dreams" or "Long Twilight Struggle" (which did
	have effective intercutting)."

	<p>
	That's because there was more emotional content to the other two
	battles you mention; the bombing of the Narn homeworld, and EA fighting
	EA in SD.  Not all battles are created equal, it's a matter of context.
	You can't expect to get exactly the same reaction to all of them.

<p>
   <li>@@@864690006 <em>Why didn't the Shadows emerge right next to their
	targets?</em><br>
	So they could drive any other ships toward the center, into the
	killing zone.  If they come in into the center, everybody splits in
	every possible direction, and that makes running 'em all down harder.

<p>
   <li>@@@864690006 If the shadows were to materialize in the midst of the
	refugee ships, they'd just scatter in every direction.  The purpose is
	to wipe out all those ships quickly and efficiently...so you start at
	the outer fringe, drive everyone inward, and then wipe them all out.
	To jump into the middle of them makes it very hard to do this...it's
	like herding kittens.

<p>
   <li>@@@864690006 Most refugee ships are NOT jump capable.
	Remember, it takes a LOT of power...you've got the heavy cruisers, and
	long range exploratory vessels, and not much else.  That's what makes
	the White Star so special, that it can be as small as it is and still
	generate a jump point. The Asimov class passenger liners, for instance,
	can't jump, and have to rely on gates.  The smaller ships the refugees
	would've been using would have had to get to their local gate, and then
	line up to go through it in small groups. Which means 85% of them
	would've been trapped there, ducks in a shooting gallery.

<p>
   <li>@@@847069906 <em>Did the Minbari telepaths need line of sight to
	affect the Shadow ships?</em><br>
	Actually, we never showed what the Minbari telepaths were
	looking at; for all you could tell, there could've been viewers or
	other ports above their beds.

<p>
   <li>@@@864690006 <em>We couldn't hear the characters speak at the end of
	the battle.  Audio problem?</em><br>
	No, we just figured we'd let the music take it.

<p>
   <li>@@@846747653 "When I saw "A Late Arrival at Avalon," Marcus's line
	asking "Who is Morgana La Fey" got me to begin speculating that Anna
	Sheridan was alive and that she was working for the Shadows.  My
	question is whether or not Marcus's line was intended that way--i.e. as
	foreshadowing that a significant female figure not presently on the
	scene (Anna?) would arrive at B5 to play Morgana to Delenn's Lady of
	the Lake?"

	<p>
	yup.

<p>
   <li> No, Sheridan isn't the man in the middle...the man in the middle is the
	one out there who sent Anna.  As Ivanova says, his opposite number.

<p>
   <li>@@@864690006 <em>Why did Kosh send those dream images?</em><br>
	Well, certainly Kosh was accessing that which he could, in part
	to prove he knew what he knew, in part to set things up.  Although who
	knows, there may be more to it...that that's what they came up with
	doesn't necessarily mean that is the full extent of it.

<p>
   <li> The snow globe was shown as a flash-forward in "WWE-2," and we 
	did see that image of Sheridan in Psi Cop uniform in "All Alone."

<p>
   <li> With "Shadow" my hope is really to erase most (though obviously
	not all) suspicions or predictions on how the last one will go.  If we
	already had our big EFX battle, it won't be that...Anna's here, so it
	can't be that...it can't ever be a return to tabula rasa, an empty
	slate, but by doing what's normally done in the season closer one
	episode prior to that, it may help ease the way for a different
	tonality to come in.
	
	<p>
	And thanks again...you definitely won't be disappointed.

<p>
   <li> <em>Was "Commander Ivanova is on channel 4" a reference to the UK
	network?  And what could possibly come next?</em><br>
	Yeah, the channel 4 reference was a nod to the UK.  Wondered if 
	it'd get noticed....

	<p>
	Good point, when you do a battle like that...what do you do next that
	won't seem anticlimatic?  Usually you save something like that for your
	last episode of the season, not your next-to-last, or you've blown your
	big EFX show 1 show early.  It makes for a real challenge...what do you
	do to follow THAT up?

	<p>
	I think we figured it out....

<p>
   <li> <em>Why not show more of Sheridan getting ready to sleep, with Delenn
	watching over him?</em><br>
	Basically...we've got 44 or so minutes...we could've shown the whole
	battle as shown, or shown Sheridan trying to sleep.  One would have to
	go to make room to include the other.

<p>
   <li> <em>Why did the White Star make its own jump point when there was
	a jumpgate nearby?</em><br>
	And then, there are just times you do it 'cause it feels more dramatic
	that way....

<p>
   <li> <em>Do people on Earth hear about events like this battle?</em><br>
	They've heard rumors, usually the ones furthest away from Clark's
	confining influence....

<p>
   <li> <em>Why the change in actresses playing Anna?</em><br>
	There was a combination of reasons, including production schedules,
	for the decision.

<p>
   <li> <em>Why were station personnel seemingly surprised to see Anna?  And
	why did Melissa Gilbert come last in the list of guest stars?</em><br>
	The script said the extras shouldn't make a big deal about seeing her.
	The director did that on the set.  That's not what I had in mind, but it
	isn't that big a deal...I figure she's a striking looking woman, maybe 
	that's a good justification.

	<p>
	The ordering of credits was done to de-emphasize and hide (as much as
	possible) the appearance of Melissa.

<p>
   <li> Under SAG rules, you must put guest stars of a certain calibre in the
	opening credits; also, for Melissa to take back-billing would have been
	a break in her work to date elsewhere.  We had no choice in this, it's
	all stuff regulated by the guilds.

<p>
   <li> <em>Were the Vorlons absent from the battle because of the death of
	Kosh, or for some other reason?</em><br>
	There are other reasons, which yes, will be addressed soon....

<p>
   <li>@@@844797198 <em>Why didn't they call in the Walkers from Sigma 957
	(<a href="049.html">"Voices of Authority?"</a>)</em><br>
	Simple....you don't bring in the big guns like that until you're ready
	for the final assault.  You don't whistle 'em up when convenient.  You
	can probably go to the well just once with these guys, and you want to
	do so only when you're ready for D-Day.

<p>
   <li>@@@844393815 <em>Was the bit about true faces taken from an existing
	religion on Earth?</em><br>
	As far as I *know*, at least, that bit about seeing your true
	face revealed as you sleep is something I came up with on my own. 
	There's just something I like about it, and if you've ever watched
	someone's face while they're sleeping, you understand.

	<p>
	Though one person did comment, "So a man's true face is all
	mushed up against the pillow and drooling?"

	<p>
	We don't talk anymore.

<p>
   <li>@@@846747092 "I gritted my teeth tighter when the dialogue launched
	into some anti-male paranoia about "What if the male demands the
	female stay a second night?", and the various "vengeances" she could
	take for a custom that is, after all, steeply in her favor. I could
	accept all that in an anthropological sense: "Look what anti-male
	customs the Minbari have. Isn't that fascinating, if you put the moral
	judgements aside?". But then... Yeesh!"

	<p>
	The "vengeances" she cites, should the male insist she stay another
	night, are "she can leave once he falls asleep, complain to the
	elders, even cut off his access to her family."  These hardly sound
	like anti-male rhetoric, but rather precautions taken to deal
	reasonably *should* someone get out of line.  It doesn't state that
	all men do this, but sets in place what to do should *some* men do
	this.

	<p>
	This is not a problem of context.  It is a problem of perception.  It
	has nothing to do with the scene, and everything to do with how you
	perceive the role of males in society.

</ul>