The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  1. <h2><a name="OV">Overview</a></h2>
  2. <blockquote><cite>
  3. As the Senate continues to investigate President Clark,
  4. an archaeologist brings news of a development back home that forces Sheridan
  5. to act against the Earth government. The Nightwatch tightens its grip on the
  6. civilian population.
  7. </cite>
  8. <a href="http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Stafford,+Nancy">Nancy Stafford</a> as Dr. Kirkish.
  9. </blockquote>
  10. <pre><a href="/lurk/p5/intro.html">P5 Rating</a>: <a href="/lurk/p5/052">9.06</a>
  11. Production number: 308
  12. Original air week: February 19, 1996
  13. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00009OOFK/thelurkersguidet">DVD release date</a>: August 12, 2003
  14. Written by J. Michael Straczynski
  15. Directed by Mike Vejar
  16. </pre>
  17. <p>
  18. <hr size=3>
  19. <h2><a name="BP">Backplot</a></h2>
  20. <ul>
  21. <li> Seven years ago, an archaeological team working for Interplanetary
  22. Expeditions (see
  23. <a href="004.html">"Infection"</a>)
  24. discovered a disabled Shadow ship buried 300 feet under the Martian
  25. surface, underground for at least a thousand years. Another Shadow
  26. ship, apparently with the cooperation of Earth, finished excavating
  27. the first, and both flew away. Garibaldi was witness, and recovered
  28. a Psi Corps badge from the site. See comic issue 8,
  29. <a href="/lurk/comic/008.html">"Silent Enemies."</a>
  30. Most of the archaeologists have died or disappeared since.
  31. <li> More recently, a second Shadow ship was discovered under the ice on
  32. Jupiter's moon Ganymede.
  33. <li> A Shadow ship requires a living being at its core; the two merge,
  34. becoming one entity. If the pilot isn't properly prepared, the
  35. result is a confused, insane ship.
  36. <li> Translating the Book of G'Quan is considered sacrilege by the Narn.
  37. "It must be read in the mother tongue, or not at all," says G'Kar.
  38. <li> Shadow forces have continued to build up on the edge of Centauri space.
  39. </ul>
  40. <h2><a name="UQ">Unanswered Questions</a></h2>
  41. <ul>
  42. <li> What were Shadow ships doing on Mars and Ganymede a millenium ago?
  43. Was Earth involved in the last war?
  44. <li> How does Delenn know that Shadow ships have sentient beings at their
  45. core? What else does she know about them that she hasn't told
  46. Sheridan?
  47. <li> What kind of preparation is needed to properly merge with a Shadow ship?
  48. </ul>
  49. <h2><a name="AN">Analysis</a></h2>
  50. <ul>
  51. <li> Sheridan's unwillingness to fire on the Agamemnon may be a sign of
  52. trouble to come; he's not ready to think of Earth's military as an
  53. enemy. How long that loyalty will last is unclear, but at some point,
  54. if conditions on Earth continue to escalate and Sheridan continues to
  55. act covertly against the government, he'll be forced to choose
  56. between firing on his own people and death or capture.
  57. <li> The White Star is a Minbari vessel, yet Sheridan believed the Agamemnon
  58. would be able to track it. (See
  59. <a href="023.html">"Points of Departure."</a>)
  60. Perhaps that was simply because the White
  61. Star was in Jupiter's atmosphere; it was thus unable to outrun the
  62. Agamemnon, and could be tracked via atmospheric disturbances.
  63. <li> The White Star is a formidable vessel, in any case; it has as much
  64. firepower as several Narn heavy cruisers, judging by its attack on
  65. the Shadow vessel (see
  66. <a href="042.html">"The Long, Twilight Struggle,"</a>) although
  67. this Shadow ship might have been smaller than those faced by the
  68. Narn. The Agamemnon was able to damage the White Star, but only
  69. after it had been grazed by a Shadow weapon and subjected to
  70. atmospheric conditions far outside its safety limits.
  71. <li> G'Kar's book should make for interesting reading now that he knows
  72. what's going on from Londo's point of view as well as his own
  73. (<a href="050.html">"Dust to Dust."</a>)
  74. Given his visitation by what he believes to be G'Lan in that episode,
  75. will he consider his writings to be on the same level as the Book of
  76. G'Quan? More importantly, will other Narn feel the same way, and
  77. become followers of the Book of G'Kar?
  78. <li> Dr. Kirkish says of Earth, regarding the Shadows, "They want us to
  79. become more like them." What does she mean by that? How can humans
  80. become more like Shadows, and what would that entail?
  81. <li> Someone on Earth wanted to go behind the Shadows' backs; if the
  82. Shadows discover that (assuming they don't already know,) the
  83. consequences for Earth could be disastrous. Assuming, of course, that
  84. the Shadows didn't tell Earth about the second ship for their own
  85. reasons.
  86. <li> The events on Mars make it clear that the Shadows were awake to some
  87. degree before the Icarus visited Z'ha'dum
  88. (<a href="038.html">"In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum."</a>)
  89. The Icarus visited Z'ha'dum in 2256, but Kirkish saw a functioning
  90. Shadow vessel seven years ago, in 2253. The Psi-Corps connection
  91. also implies that the Shadows were aware of humanity at the time.
  92. <li> Given Marcus' apparent disregard for secrecy
  93. (<a href="051.html#marcus">"Exogenesis"</a>)
  94. Ivanova would be well-advised to make sure his chart is destroyed
  95. or hidden lest a Nightwatch sympathizer stumble across it.
  96. <li> Perhaps the Shadows bury their ships underground intentionally. Since
  97. the ships are at least partially alive, it's even concievable that
  98. the Shadows bury an egg or something similar, then dig up the fully
  99. grown ship later on. In that case, where else are such ships buried?
  100. Do the Shadows know, or did they lose track of their ships in the
  101. last war?
  102. <li>@@@832018767 The Shadows attacked the mining colony where Marcus and his brother
  103. lived
  104. (<a href="045.html">"Matters of Honor."</a>)
  105. Could they have been trying to prevent the miners from discovering
  106. another buried ship?
  107. <li> Now that the Agamemnon has observed the White Star at close proximity,
  108. Earth Force will presumably treat it as hostile on sight in the future.
  109. That will probably severely limit Sheridan's ability to finesse his
  110. way out of another fight.
  111. <li> The Shadows are far from alone in requiring living beings to merge with
  112. their machinery. In fact, it seems to be a staple of advanced
  113. technologies in the B5 universe:
  114. <ul>
  115. <li> The Ikarran weapon in
  116. <a href="004.html">"Infection."</a>
  117. <li> The anti-agathic drug in
  118. <a href="009.html">"Deathwalker,"</a>
  119. which required an extract from another living being.
  120. <li> The Great Machine in Epsilon 3, which goes berserk without a
  121. core
  122. (<a href="018.html">"A Voice in the Wilderness."</a>)
  123. <li> Shadow ships, as shown here.
  124. </ul>
  125. <p>
  126. Are Vorlon ships similarly powered? They show up as living beings
  127. in scans, though that isn't conclusive one way or the other.
  128. <li>@@@884630518 Delenn's promise to Sheridan, "I will watch and catch you
  129. if you should fall," is strikingly similar to the Soul Hunter's
  130. comment to her when she was being held captive: "You will feel
  131. as if you are falling; do not be afraid, I will be there to catch
  132. you."
  133. (<a href="002.html">"Soul Hunter."</a>)
  134. </ul>
  135. <h2><a name="NO">Notes</a></h2>
  136. <ul>
  137. <li> Narn is written from right to left.
  138. <li> "Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom" is a variation on a quote
  139. from Thomas Jefferson, the third President of the United States
  140. (1801-1809.) The original meaning was that people should closely watch
  141. their governments to avoid excessive encroachment on personal liberty;
  142. its use by a Nightwatch member is especially ironic.
  143. <li> The events on Mars were first revealed in the comic series, issues
  144. <a href="/lurk/comic/007.html">"Survival the Hard Way"</a>
  145. and
  146. <a href="/lurk/comic/008.html">"Silent Enemies,"</a>
  147. six months before this episode's first airing. Garibaldi also made
  148. a reference to the story contained therein in the first-season
  149. episode
  150. <a href="004.html">"Infection."</a>
  151. <br>
  152. <img align=right alt="" width=160 height=120 src="/lurk/gif/052/city.gif"
  153. hspace=5 vspace=5>
  154. <li> <a name="NO.city">In the middle</a>
  155. of the White Star's jump to hyperspace, there's a single
  156. frame of note. The frame takes place as the White
  157. Star emerges into hyperspace, as it heads toward the camera. The
  158. hyperspace background changes to what looks like an alien cityscape.
  159. Apparently it's a shot from
  160. <a href="http://www.hypernauts.com/">Hypernauts,</a>
  161. a children's sci-fi show whose special effects are being done by
  162. B5's effects company. (See
  163. <a href="#JS.city">jms speaks.</a>)
  164. </ul>
  165. <h2><a name="JS">jms speaks</a></h2>
  166. <ul>
  167. <li> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!
  168. <p>
  169. For a couple months now, I've been looking down the road at episode #7,
  170. because I couldn't quite see the shape of it...I knew what I had to do
  171. in it, but I couldn't break the spine of the story...until ten minutes
  172. ago, and it hit me with all the force of a meat axe right smack between
  173. the eyeballs.
  174. <p>
  175. Hot damn...if I can pull this script off, it may well be the best one
  176. of the series to date. Granted it'll probably give Ron a cardiac
  177. infarction, but what the heck, he's had it too easy lately.
  178. <p>
  179. Oh, man, is this gonna be cool, assuming I can pull it off.
  180. <p>
  181. Working title: "Messages from Earth."
  182. <p>
  183. <li> <em>A bit of a bland title?</em><br>
  184. Whether it's "bland" or not depends on what the messsages might be,
  185. yes? The only thing I'll say for the episode is that it may be one of
  186. the biggest whams of the first half of year three, and one of our most
  187. ambitious episodes of the series. Generally, my feeling is that titles
  188. should augment the episode, or add something, or collapse something into
  189. a thematic whole. When you see what convictions are at hand, the
  190. episode "Convictions" as a title works better; ditto for "Messages."
  191. <p>
  192. Besides, a nice, quiet, inoffensive little title gives me a better
  193. chance to sneak up behind you and whack the heck out of you....
  194. <p>
  195. <li> "Messages," for my money, is so far the best we've ever done, though
  196. I'll be more able to lock that down once I've seen the final CGI. It
  197. and "Dreams" are real CGI blowouts; in the latter, there are literally
  198. 100 shots -- CGI, live action, and compositing -- in *four pages* of
  199. action. This is an all time record for us (and that doesn't count the
  200. stuff earlier in the episode).
  201. <p>
  202. I don't usually go this far, but folks, let me give you my personal
  203. guarantee: you're in for one hell of a ride come mid-season, with these
  204. three episodes.
  205. <p>
  206. <li> Not only did "Messages From Earth" come out as well as I'd hoped or
  207. thought it would, it came out *better*. It is, potentially, either
  208. one of the best or the best thing we've ever done in the whole series
  209. to date. There are some episodes that come close this season, like
  210. "Point of No Return," "A Late Delivery From Avalon," "Sic Transit
  211. Vir" (for absolutely different reasons), and parts of "Dust to Dust,"
  212. but so far -- at least until the CGI for "Severed Dreams" is
  213. finished, which has at least a shot at knocking "Messages" out of the
  214. box -- "Messages" is as close to perfect as we've ever come.
  215. <p>
  216. Like "The Coming of Shadows" there's a real sense of a *story* being
  217. told, and major events happening at breakneck speed. It's just a joy
  218. to watch.
  219. <p>
  220. <li> I'd suggest, btw, that if there are any folks you've been waiting to
  221. bring into the fold on B5, you may want to consider 8 and 9 in the new
  222. cycle, the last of that bunch in February. Eight is potentially one of
  223. the best, possibly the best episode we've produced to date.
  224. <p>
  225. <li> Here's something that occured to me today. Any time you have
  226. someone you're trying to convince about the quality of a show, and you
  227. say, "Here, just watch it next week," that's always the one that comes
  228. a-cropper.
  229. <p>
  230. "Messages From Earth" airing this coming week is possibly the
  231. best thing we've done to that point. It's guaranteed to grab anybody
  232. who watches it. So this would be a good one to use.
  233. <p>
  234. Pick ten friends who you know haven't yet tried B5, or are
  235. diffident about it, and give them a call. Tell them to give THIS one a
  236. look. Then all you have to do is sit back, and wait for the jaws to
  237. drop.
  238. <p>
  239. <li> "Messages From Earth" - This begins the three-episode mini-arc within
  240. the larger arc that, by its conclusion, totally changes the
  241. structure of the B5 universe. A mega-wham episode. Because so
  242. much comes to a head so quickly, little can be said about it
  243. without spoiling stuff. Our characters begin making the final
  244. and irrevocable steps that will put them on a collision course
  245. with everything they have believed in until now. There are
  246. four or five episodes this season that push the limits of our
  247. effects and CGI to the absolute wall; this is one of the
  248. biggest.
  249. <p>
  250. <li> Re: an "edge" to the show....I suspect you're going to get all the edge
  251. you could possibly want with episodes 8, 9 and especially 10.
  252. <p>
  253. Be *very* careful what you wish for.
  254. <p>
  255. <li>@@@865183215 "...I didn't think things would start moving this fast so
  256. soon!"
  257. <p>
  258. Well, this is what I kinda kept trying to tell people was
  259. coming, when they said things were moving too slowly....
  260. <p>
  261. <li> Randy, I honestly don't think, after episodes 8-10 have aired,
  262. that you're going to have any problems with how fast the main story is
  263. progressing. And do bear in mind that the "main story" isn't just the
  264. war; if you wanted to do that, you'd just do Space A&B. It's operating
  265. on a whole lot of other levels. Nonetheless...this entire season is
  266. much faster overall in developing than the two before. The first two
  267. seasons we were mainly putting the guns into position. Now we're
  268. pulling all the triggers.
  269. <p>
  270. <li> Thanks. Bruce did an excellet job in this episode, I agree.
  271. As did everyone else. This is, in my opinion, about as flawless an
  272. episode as we have ever made. It's one of those cases where the sum is
  273. even greater than the sum of its parts...and the sum of its parts ain't
  274. bad.
  275. <p>
  276. From here on through the next batch, the intensity level
  277. continues to crank up.
  278. <p>
  279. We definitely pushed the envelope in terms of EFX this time
  280. out; mixing and matching, and in sheer amounts of shots, and their
  281. complexity. But the result, I think, is eminently worth the effort.
  282. <p>
  283. <li> I entirely agree; I think she did a dynamite job as Kirkish. Totally
  284. convincing. When she walked into the audition, and did the part, there
  285. was no question...it was her.
  286. <p>
  287. <li> <a name="JS.city" href="#NO.city"><em>About the alien city</em></a><br>
  288. The executive producer thinks, "He's mistaken, has to be; it must be
  289. a series of patterns in the image that look like a city." Being a
  290. thorough person, however, the executive producer fires up his copy of
  291. the tape, and fast forwards to the shot in question. Pauses, then
  292. advances, frame by frame.
  293. <p>
  294. Then stops. The executive producer stares at the screen for a very,
  295. very long time. Eventually, words form. The executive producer knows
  296. that if he posts those words here, not only will they throw him off the
  297. system, they will come to his house, burn it down, and sow the ground
  298. with salt.
  299. <p>
  300. The executive producer knows what that single frame is, knows that it
  301. has nothing to do with his show, knows that it's a frame from Hypernauts
  302. that somehow crossed into the EFX shot in double-exposure via a computer
  303. glitch while rendering. No one saw it. No one noticed it. Until now.
  304. <p>
  305. Tomorrow morning, the executive producer is going to make phone
  306. calls, and say all the words he can't say here. When he is finished,
  307. twenty seven miles of telephone coaxial cable are going to hang melted
  308. from the telephone poles. Shortly thereafter, the executive producer is
  309. going to put a gun to his head and blow his brains out, in the sure
  310. knowledge that if he does not do so, he will most assuredly do it to
  311. someone else.
  312. <p>
  313. The executive producer thanks you for bringing this to his attention,
  314. and would write further, but is currently modeming from a laptop
  315. computer on top of his roof, from which he is considering jumping, and
  316. the wind up here is causing line noise.
  317. <p>
  318. <li>@@@865183215 <em>The White Star looked different.</em><br>
  319. Different camera work, mainly.
  320. <p>
  321. <li>@@@865183215 The Eternal Vigilance line is from history, not Wing
  322. Commander. Ten Green Drazi points to the person who can name its
  323. origin.
  324. <p>
  325. <li> <em>Where's the press during all this Nightwatch buildup?</em><br>
  326. You'll find more on this in the next three episodes.
  327. <p>
  328. <li> You need a clear and present danger, and with a
  329. population that nearly got wiped out by the Minbari, who are skittish
  330. to begin with, you drag out the possibility of someone else doing the
  331. same thing and it makes it a lot easier to do what you want to do.
  332. <p>
  333. <li>@@@865183215 <em>Why aren't eggs and bacon available?</em><br>
  334. Mainly it's the expense involved per volume. It still costs big bucks,
  335. and you generally need refrigeration.
  336. <p>
  337. <li> Basically, it's the cost involved in transporting something as
  338. basically trivial as eggs. Yes, it can be done, but the cost per egg
  339. would be quite substantial, given limited space in ships. Space flight
  340. is still very expensive.
  341. <p>
  342. And yes, a shadow vessel has one "core" sentient, and once in,
  343. it's very difficult for that person to ever get out again.
  344. <p>
  345. <li>@@@865183215 <em>Wouldn't Ivanova's religion keep her from eating
  346. bacon?</em><br>
  347. Ivanova's not what you'd call orthodox under any circumstances.
  348. <p>
  349. <li> <em>What was the blue goop?</em><br>
  350. Actually, I think it was blueberry yogurt.
  351. <p>
  352. <li> <em>Any relation to the moment of perfect beauty in
  353. <a href="036.html">"There All the Honor Lies?"</a></em><br>
  354. Yes, the way Sheridan removes his EA pin here is an
  355. echo, or a shadow, so to speak, of his moment in "Honor." The latter
  356. is meant to sort of indicate what might be ahead for him, what he may
  357. have to do at some point along the line. He has to give up things that
  358. mean something to him. (We'll get more of this philosophy in a few more
  359. eps, I don't want to get too specific here.) Visual foreshadowing.
  360. <p>
  361. From here on in, things get very interesting....
  362. <p>
  363. <li> Yes, what he's writing will, in time, become the Book of G'Kar.
  364. <p>
  365. And correct, I went for a different feel in this episode, on
  366. the theory that a little change is a good thing, if used to a purpose.
  367. It's built like a series of waves, with quite moments in between.
  368. <p>
  369. This is the second so far to strongly tie into the comic, yes.
  370. <p>
  371. <li> <em>Does G'Kar consider his book on par with G'Quon's?</em><br>
  372. No, he hasn't thought of it that far yet...but it will find
  373. that role.
  374. <p>
  375. <li> IXP has been in business, in one form or another, for between 50-80
  376. years.
  377. <p>
  378. <li> <em>Who was the human in the Shadow ship?</em><br>
  379. It doesn't really matter in the long run; some poor shlub who
  380. got conned into it.
  381. <p>
  382. <li> <em>Would a human be sane after piloting a Shadow ship?</em><br>
  383. Almost certainly not.
  384. <p>
  385. <li> <em>Could someone on Sheridan's side "pilot" a Shadow ship, or are
  386. the ships intrinsically evil?</em><br>
  387. It's certainly a *very* good question.
  388. <p>
  389. <li> No, I wouldn't say there's a corrolation to life force and the shadow
  390. ships; they need a living organism as the central processing unit
  391. because an organic unit can think faster than most computer systems, and
  392. react faster in terms of formulating strategy and the like.
  393. <p>
  394. <li>@@@865183215 <em>What condition was the ship on Mars in?</em><br>
  395. It was dormant. The core element was dead, certainly.
  396. <p>
  397. <li>@@@865183215 Yes, the first batch of eps from season 3, up through 9
  398. or so, give a lot more background on the shadow ships, what they are and
  399. how they work. And as you say, virtually everything in this show is
  400. here for a reason; there's an offhand remark from Garibaldi in
  401. "Infection" about his long struggle out of the Martian desert that pays
  402. off in both the comic, and in a third-season episode. So some of the
  403. year three stuff was being set up as early as episode 2 of year 1, in
  404. what was designed to look like just plain old throwaway dialogue.
  405. <p>
  406. <li> <em>Is a Shadow ship itself a kind of Shadow?</em><br>
  407. It's not a kind of shadow, no.
  408. <p>
  409. <li> <em>Is there an official name for the Shadow ships?</em><br>
  410. I just call them shadow vessels. For now.
  411. <p>
  412. <li> <em>Why didn't Sheridan use the jumpgate trick again?</em><br>
  413. Because there wasn't a jumpgate he had access to, only a jump
  414. point created by the White Star. In the prior situation, he blew up a
  415. standing jump gate. The only one in the vicinity would be at the
  416. transfer point near Io, which if destroyed would seriously harm Earth
  417. interests.
  418. <p>
  419. <li>@@@846717165 Three days is the time to the jumpgate off Io. Once
  420. you're within our solar system, it takes another several days or more
  421. to reach Earth itself. It's fairly common to keep your jump gate a bit
  422. removed from your "core" planet so you have warning if any aggressors
  423. come out of it.
  424. <p>
  425. <li> <em>How could the Agamemnon detect the White Star?</em><br>
  426. It can be for a number of reasons. The White Star was moving
  427. through a highly charged atmosphere, which would leave detectable
  428. trails; it was being fired at by the shadow vessel, which would've
  429. attracted considerable attention from the flares; diving at that speed
  430. and coming back up there would be considerble heat on the surface of
  431. the ship (not normally a problem in space); and it was pretty much
  432. shaken up/partially damaged during the fight. Also, at that range,
  433. once you're near enough, you can pick it up visually as it gets close;
  434. it's not a cloaking system, only a stealth system.
  435. <p>
  436. <li> Neither situation relied on introducing new technology, only on
  437. taking advantage of what's known currently. It's a simple equation:
  438. ship A is more powerful than ship B. In a head-to-head situation, ship
  439. A (shadow) will destroy ship B (white star). If you can't directly
  440. confront a stronger enemy, you have to find some way to work around it,
  441. outsmart it. (And fortunately, this one was flawed, "insane," as
  442. Delenn put it.)
  443. <p>
  444. And the minbari know more than they're saying. But then that's
  445. generally true of them.
  446. <p>
  447. And yes, the shadow ship arrived with a new "core" for the
  448. buried ship.
  449. <p>
  450. <li> <em>How does Delenn know so much about Shadow ships?</em><br>
  451. The info came from the Vorlons, and from the last war the Minbari fought
  452. against them.
  453. <p>
  454. <li> The ship was hidden there to avoid it being destroyed during the war.
  455. May or may not see General Franklin again anytime soon.
  456. <p>
  457. <li>@@@851545490 The shadows had allies, who watched over their cities,
  458. maintained their machines, waited for their awakening...one of their
  459. tasks was to send out one of the few dormant shadow vessels whenever
  460. one was discovered or unearthed. This way, slowly, over centuries, the
  461. fleet would be built back up in strength.
  462. <p>
  463. <li> There are no shadow vessels buried on Narn, no. The shadow influence
  464. on the Psi Corps has been growing for about 7 years now.
  465. <p>
  466. <li>@@@844381189 <em>Who sent the second ship to Mars?</em><br>
  467. They had some of their servants and allies taking care of
  468. things; whenever a signal was sent, and a ship found, they'd dispatch
  469. one of the standby ships to go and pick it up, slowly regathering their
  470. forces.
  471. <p>
  472. <li> <em>How is Sheridan going to defeat a Shadow ship head-to-head?</em><br>
  473. Exactly. The goal would seem to be impossible. So how do we
  474. do it? Is there a vulnerability that's been laid out but not picked up
  475. yet? Is there an advantage we don't necessarily see yet?
  476. <p>
  477. We have to be smarter. Humans are at our best when against the
  478. wall. And we have to do it ourselves, in the final analysis, nobody
  479. else can do it for us.
  480. <p>
  481. <li> <em>Was the spine that the White Star shot off the Shadow vessel
  482. recovered?</em><br>
  483. Nope.
  484. <p>
  485. <li>@@@865183215 The shadow vessel was still a little wobbly
  486. from its long hibernation and the improper melding.
  487. <p>
  488. <li> Given that we're looking at a high-energy weapon capable of
  489. burning through a four-mile wide Narn orbital base as though it were
  490. made of butter, it's putting out enough energy, I figured, to lead to a
  491. reaction with the hydrogen, whether it's a fusion reaction of some
  492. other.
  493. <p>
  494. We're talking a concentrated level of energy equal to a
  495. thermonuclear reaction on a controlled level, or a fusion weapons
  496. system with an energy output well beyond contemporary science to
  497. calculate (particularly since this system is capable of delivering the
  498. energy, undiluted, to targets tens or dozens of miles distant).
  499. <p>
  500. <li> Yeah, perhaps a better word than ignite could've been used.
  501. But hey, the guy was being shot at...I'd be sitting in a corner going
  502. bibble-bibble...
  503. <p>
  504. <li> <em>About the massing Shadow forces</em><br>
  505. The forces will continue to build over the course of this
  506. season. The White Star would be detected because it was inside the
  507. atmosphere, where it could be picked up by its emissions, the
  508. disruption caused in the air by the engines, and frankly by plain
  509. sight.
  510. <p>
  511. <li> <em>What's the symbol at the front of the White Star bridge?</em><br>
  512. The symbol on the WS isn't on the floor, it's the top of a
  513. console that can be used for holographic tactical displays.
  514. <p>
  515. <li> <em>The shot of G'Kar writing was flipped!</em><br>
  516. Not a gaffe; we flopped the shot because the writing was done
  517. left to right, instead of right to left, which is Narnish script.
  518. <p>
  519. <li> Thanks. We've featured Minbari script going straight up and
  520. down like Japanese, right to left with Narns, and other variations.
  521. Because they would naturally occur.
  522. <p>
  523. <li> Also, bear in mind that Sheridan went into Earth-space knowing
  524. the risks. For him to fire on the Aggy would be selfish, and wrong; he
  525. knew full well that this could be a one-way ride.
  526. <p>
  527. If you're going to have a situation where Sheridan fires on EA
  528. ships, it has to be the ONLY way of dealing with the situation, and it
  529. has to be SUPREMELY motivated, so that it's not just him or one of our
  530. guys who's at stake. It has to be a big situation to merit taking the
  531. lives of fellow officers, in the same service.
  532. <p>
  533. <li>@@@865183215 <em>Nobody seemed to be translating Sheridan's orders
  534. to the White Star's crew.</em><br>
  535. Lennier was muttering his translations off-screen.
  536. <p>
  537. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
  538. <p>
  539. <li> I think they know the White Star (aka the unidentified ship)
  540. got away, but they put the best face on it back home. Which is one
  541. more reason why Clark's declared martial law. Things are spinning out
  542. of control, he's in increasingly hot water back home, and he has to
  543. seize control. Whoever was in that alien ship knows too much about his
  544. operations...if that were to come out, he's finished.
  545. <p>
  546. <li>@@@865183215 <em>Are rights suspended during Clark's martial
  547. law?</em><br>
  548. Yes, right to assemble, free speech rights, they're all open to
  549. abridgement. Travel can also be restricted.
  550. <p>
  551. <li>@@@865183215 <em>What happened to Ivanova's discovery in
  552. <a href="049.html">"Voices of Authority?"</a></em><br>
  553. That information was sent to Earth, where it's led directly to the
  554. series of current investigations that were launched...and which forced
  555. Clark's hand into declaring martial law to distract from all that.
  556. <p>
  557. <li> <em>Are we near the end of the Nightwatch plot thread?</em><br>
  558. The thread will diminish for a while, then return down the road
  559. in later seasons, after the story takes its third major turn.
  560. <p>
  561. <li> <em>Why does anyone on Earth believe Clark?</em><br>
  562. It all depends on how you frame the issue...i.e., the attacks
  563. are groundless, baseless, and part of a campaign to destroy the
  564. government, he's the attacked innocent....
  565. <p>
  566. <li> <em>Sheridan's conspiracy should be falling apart about now.</em><br>
  567. Of course it can't hold. And they're going to go through
  568. plenty of fire. Remember, this is the first of three that accomplish
  569. that. Each escalates upon what went before. Don't worry...you'll get
  570. your wish.
  571. <p>
  572. <li> Yes, the current mini-arc (8-10) is the second major turn in
  573. the storyline. The third starts with the last episode of this season,
  574. going into the fourth year. Then you've got one more big turn about
  575. the last quarter or one-third of year four, and then a bit of a flip at
  576. the end.
  577. <p>
  578. <li> <em>We already knew everything this episode revealed.</em><br>
  579. If I can, let me address one aspect of this, for your
  580. consideration.
  581. <p>
  582. Back when I was working on MURDER, SHE WROTE, we'd sometimes
  583. get letters saying, "This wasn't a good episode because I figured out
  584. the ending. It wasn't a surprise." (Which is, to some extent, your
  585. point here.)
  586. <p>
  587. The problem we had with that particular letter was this: of
  588. COURSE you figured it out. Because you were paying attention to all
  589. the clues we had put out there in the episode.
  590. <p>
  591. There seems to be this notion that nobody should be able to
  592. jump ahead, or else something's wrong or bad about the episode.
  593. Absolutely not true. If you're going to play fair with the audience,
  594. whether it's B5 or M,SW, you've got to put enough bits of information
  595. out on the table so that the person who's really following it can
  596. figure it out...so that at the end, those who *didn't* figure it out
  597. can back up the tape, watch for the clues or leads, and see where it
  598. all came from. That's playing fair.
  599. <p>
  600. If NObody gets it, you haven't done your job right.
  601. <p>
  602. If EVERYbody gets it, you haven't done your job right.
  603. <p>
  604. The best case scenario is a bell-shaped curve. Some don't have
  605. a clue what's coming, some manage to figure it out, and the majority
  606. have a kind of vague sense where it's going, but there are still
  607. surprises along the way. If the bell-curve shifts one direction or the
  608. other, then you're in trouble.
  609. <p>
  610. So far, B5 seems to be hewing right to the bell-curve. For
  611. every person who says "okay, this was expected," there's been another
  612. saying, "I had no *idea* this was going to happen here, or so fast."
  613. (Many of these have been right on this forum, in fact.)
  614. <p>
  615. Finally, do bear in mind that you have an advantage here that
  616. 99% of all the viewers don't: the discussion here on CIS, and direct
  617. comments from me. For instance, I just noted elsewhere that we've got
  618. major turns at the end of this season, and one 2/3rds into year 4.
  619. Now, if at those points, somebody says, "Well, I knew this was coming,
  620. that's bad," I intend to whap them, because the reason they likely knew
  621. it was coming was because I *said so* right here.
  622. <p>
  623. But that same 99% doesn't have this advantage.
  624. <p>
  625. This is the main difference I've noted in the mail that's come
  626. in: the net-folks are constantly trying to figure out what's coming up
  627. next, treating it like a mystery story (which, really, it's not, any
  628. more than ANY novel is a mystery in that you don't necessarily know its
  629. turns and twists as you're reading it), whereas the non-netted folks
  630. tend to just take it as it comes.
  631. <p>
  632. See, that's the other part of this. People on the nets tend to
  633. treat it as though it's a mystery novel, and when it doesn't hit that
  634. aspect, say it's flawed as a result...when it was never INTENDED to
  635. function as a mystery novel. It's a novel period. A mystery novel
  636. depends absolutely on the riddle at the center of it. This is a saga,
  637. which uses a different structure. It isn't a mystery any more than
  638. Lord of the Rings is a mystery, even though when I first read it I was
  639. wondering what was going to happen next.
  640. <p>
  641. Also, a mystery novel is done when the mystery is finally
  642. unraveled. Not so the B5 story. By the end of this season, most of the
  643. mysteries will be unraveled, and the pieces laid on the table for all
  644. to see. It then becomes a matter of what the characters *do* about it
  645. thereafter.
  646. <p>
  647. If I'm doing my job right, and setting up things to come
  648. properly, and giving all the clues to it, then by definition a certain
  649. number of people HAVE to figure out what's coming. As long as it's the
  650. smaller portion, that's as it *should* be. So you'll understand why I
  651. tend to get in here for a moment when that's held up as something bad
  652. or poorly done. (And, again, even you note that the only reason you
  653. knew about the shadows on Mars was via reading it here, or others read
  654. it via the comics. Again, that's a very small portion of the audience;
  655. most I've heard from had NO idea about that aspect of it. If you
  656. hadn't read it here, you likely would have been surprised by it.)
  657. <p>
  658. Anyway, just something to consider in all of this....
  659. <p>
  660. <li>@@@865183215 "Was the "package" mentioned in Exo the blonde woman
  661. giving us the Mars Shadow info? Or was it the eggs and bacon? Or have
  662. we not seen it yet?"
  663. <p>
  664. Yes, the package referred to Kirkish.
  665. <p>
  666. "It seems Sheridan is destroying his Shadow ships by using tricks - not
  667. a straight up battle. At some point won't he be one on one with a
  668. Shadow and have to deal with it?"
  669. <p>
  670. Sooner or later. Right now he's outgunned hideously. He'll have to
  671. find a way.
  672. <p>
  673. "At some point won't Sheridan have to fight Earth? (I really don't
  674. expect an answer to this one)"
  675. <p>
  676. Stick around.
  677. <p>
  678. <li>@@@843956012 <em>Why didn't Kirkish notice the huge Psi-Corps
  679. installation as shown in the comic?</em><br>
  680. The building was a lot bigger in the book than it should've been, more
  681. like a quonset hut arrangment hastily erected.
  682. <p>
  683. <li>@@@843956063 I don't know if the shadow pilot was aware of the Psi
  684. Corps research installation...they're not really aware of much of
  685. *anything*, except their orders...I'd just suggest that there may be
  686. something beneath that particular installation, and a reason they built
  687. it there.
  688. <p>
  689. <li> <em>Why didn't Garibaldi mention he was with Sinclair?</em><br>
  690. There was an outsider, Kirkish, in the room. Yes, she's helped him, but
  691. he's still going to hold back some info because he doesn't know what
  692. impact it might have on Sinclair. He's protective of him.
  693. <p>
  694. <li>@@@865183215 <em>Didn't Sheridan already know about the badge, from the
  695. comic issue
  696. <a href="/lurk/comic/008.html">"Silent Enemies?"</a></em><br>
  697. I believe Sheridan wasn't shown the badge in the comic; and
  698. Garibaldi is always cautious about what he says in front of others,
  699. like Kirkish.
  700. <p>
  701. <li> Yes, Kosh should've been there. Kosh wasn't. Kosh hasn't been carrying
  702. his weight, if you ask me. I hope this doesn't cause a problem
  703. somewhere....
  704. <p>
  705. <li> Don't have the shadow dimensions offhand; and yes, you'd think Sheridan
  706. might begin to wonder about Kosh's level of involvement.
  707. <p>
  708. <li> <em>Weren't the cameras at Ganymede recording?</em><br>
  709. Of course. But who controls those cameras? Answer: the very
  710. folks who wouldn't want it to get out what they had there.
  711. </ul>