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  1. JMS (and coproducer George Johnsen) Usenet messages for February 1998.
  2. Date: 2 Feb 1998 09:20:32 -0700
  3. Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS - TVLNoLM
  4. >You have come so far in the last five years.
  5. >
  6. I do hope so...we've learned a lot doing B5 over the years, and this kind of
  7. intense writing tends to teach you a LOT in a very short amount of time.
  8. >And what's really amazing is I'm pretty sure you're going to top it at
  9. >some point this year!
  10. Hope so again...that's the other part. I think we all have to keep challenging
  11. ourselves on a daily basis, or what's the point of going on?
  12. jms
  13. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  14. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  15. http://www.thestation.com
  16. Date: 2 Feb 1998 09:43:01 -0700
  17. Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS - Medium question
  18. It would've been 'way outside our budget capacity to produce it as an episode.
  19. jms
  20. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  21. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  22. http://www.thestation.com
  23. Date: 2 Feb 1998 14:43:44 -0700
  24. Subject: Re: The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari ( *Spoilers* )
  25. Re: the idea that Londo has "apologized" before....
  26. Remember G'Kar's comment: that in other circumstances, Londo wasn't sorry he
  27. DID it, he was sorry he got CAUGHT. That was the point of the exercise.
  28. jms
  29. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  30. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  31. http://www.thestation.com
  32. Date: 2 Feb 1998 17:03:24 -0700
  33. Subject: Re: The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari ( *Spoilers* )
  34. Bill is still on the show; there's a bit of a break as his character is off on
  35. anla-shok training, but he does come back, and in fact has a rather substantial
  36. arc of his own at a certain point later in the season.
  37. jms
  38. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  39. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  40. http://www.thestation.com
  41. Date: 3 Feb 1998 09:50:50 -0700
  42. Subject: Re: Attn JMS: Upcoming titles
  43. Yeah, I've used that quote in other places, back to CP days, so it was in the
  44. back of my head.
  45. jms
  46. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  47. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  48. http://www.thestation.com
  49. Date: 3 Feb 1998 09:53:45 -0700
  50. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Resolution
  51. >Now that you are in the process of writing the final script, I'd just
  52. >like to ask has the season shaped up the way you wanted it? And will 522
  53. >provide the same sense of resolution that 421 did?
  54. Yes and no...the last part of the season is very tight, 17-19 are very much of
  55. a piece, 20 sets up one final thread, then 21 and 22 are more designed to *lead
  56. up to* the held-over 422. That's one of the main differences...if it'd aired
  57. at the end of S4, it would've been a bit of a jump, but now can lead up to it
  58. more smoothly.
  59. jms
  60. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  61. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  62. http://www.thestation.com
  63. Date: 3 Feb 1998 09:53:30 -0700
  64. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: comment on "TVLNoLM"
  65. Thanks...we're slowly bringing Londo full-circle, and what an odd little voyage
  66. it's been. And so much sadness yet to come.
  67. jms
  68. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  69. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  70. http://www.thestation.com
  71. Date: 3 Feb 1998 09:53:51 -0700
  72. Subject: Re: Attn: jms - How was the directing for 517?
  73. Haven't seen the director's cut yet, but Goran did a great job, based on
  74. dailies.
  75. jms
  76. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  77. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  78. http://www.thestation.com
  79. Date: 3 Feb 1998 09:53:59 -0700
  80. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS- semi-silly No Comprimises question.
  81. That would be *terribly* self indulgent of me....
  82. jms
  83. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  84. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  85. http://www.thestation.com
  86. Date: 3 Feb 1998 13:43:14 -0700
  87. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: cats, CTS and clubs
  88. >Cats- I've always assumed that you don't like felines but a recent posting
  89. >made me wonder if maybe you do. So.... do you like cats?
  90. Absolutely. But with all cats, it's half affection, half psychological
  91. warfare. Goes with the turf.
  92. >CTS - are you still suffering?
  93. It comes and goes.
  94. >Clubs - can members of the UK fan club access "thestation" site?
  95. If by that you mean members in the UK of the B5 official fan club, then yes;
  96. but membership in the UK fan club (a separate organization) is not membership
  97. in the official organization. But of course anyone can access thestation.com,
  98. it's just that fans get certain areas and discounts others don't.
  99. jms
  100. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  101. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  102. http://www.thestation.com
  103. Date: 4 Feb 1998 00:10:37 -0700
  104. Subject: Re: Attn:JMS Whatever happened to George Johnsen?
  105. George was a NDEI employee who worked with us on Babylon 5, and after spending
  106. 4 years of no sleep getting the show together, decided to move on and pursue
  107. other opportunities, of which there are many.
  108. jms
  109. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  110. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  111. http://www.thestation.com
  112. Date: 4 Feb 1998 15:03:26 -0700
  113. Subject: Re: Chrysalis Credits Intact!
  114. TNT has pledged to show one episode per season with out any kind of voice-over
  115. or crunching, as a nod to the fans. Usually the season ender.
  116. jms
  117. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  118. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  119. http://www.thestation.com
  120. Date: 4 Feb 1998 15:43:27 -0700
  121. Subject: from jms: life meets art?
  122. Check out this site:
  123. http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9802/03/holliman/
  124. The photo of Node One, part of Nasa's new space station -- a city in space,
  125. they call it -- looks kinda like B5's core design.
  126. Just a little frisson...kinda fun.
  127. jms
  128. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  129. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  130. http://www.thestation.com
  131. Date: 4 Feb 1998 15:53:56 -0700
  132. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Writing old ST:TOS comics
  133. I was always a fan of the original Trek, and really felt I had a handle on
  134. those characters; always wanted to write for them. So I managed to talk my way
  135. into the gig. It'sa favorite of mine, one of the better comics I did.
  136. jms
  137. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  138. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  139. http://www.thestation.com
  140. Date: 5 Feb 1998 23:43:13 -0700
  141. Subject: Re: Declaration of Principles -- Spoilers for Paragon of Animals
  142. > No matter the pain
  143. > No matter the darkness
  144. > No matter the loss
  145. > No matter the fear
  146. >We are one, here, gathered together in common cause.
  147. >We agree to recognize this singular truth
  148. > and this singular rule:
  149. Just a typographical correction: this should be, at the midway point,
  150. No matter the fear:
  151. We are one.
  152. Here, gathered together in common cause,
  153. We agree...(etc)
  154. jms
  155. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  156. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  157. http://www.thestation.com
  158. Date: 5 Feb 1998 23:59:04 -0700
  159. Subject: Re: from jms: life meets art?
  160. >Seriously, though... if an ant saw Node One, then asked another ant "What
  161. >was that?", what would the second ant say?
  162. >
  163. >
  164. >
  165. RUN FOR IT!
  166. jms
  167. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  168. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  169. http://www.thestation.com
  170. Date: 6 Feb 1998 07:04:27 -0700
  171. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: S5 script writing
  172. Peter and Bill's script didn't work out.
  173. jms
  174. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  175. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  176. http://www.thestation.com
  177. Date: 6 Feb 1998 07:04:20 -0700
  178. Subject: Re: WHERE'S LOCHLEY?
  179. >Still, she's the new captain -- where is she?
  180. Settling in on station stuff...this is all Alliance stuff.
  181. She'll be in a run of several starting next week.
  182. jms
  183. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  184. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  185. http://www.thestation.com
  186. Date: 6 Feb 1998 07:06:47 -0700
  187. Subject: Re: ATT JMS: Is Harlan going
  188. While we're not doing the Demon story this season, Harlan has co-story credit
  189. on two episodes this season.
  190. jms
  191. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  192. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  193. http://www.thestation.com
  194. Date: 6 Feb 1998 22:15:53 -0700
  195. Subject: The Paragon of Animals ( *Spoilers* )
  196. Spoilers for The Paragon of Animals
  197. White Stars are not invulnerable. If they saw what they were told were a
  198. friendly fleet coming in, to join them in an offense, they would have their
  199. defenses down. And a full-scale Drazi fleet would also somewhat outnumber the
  200. White Stars. A Pearl Harbor style attack on White Stars would effectively
  201. decimate the fleet before they would have a chance to respond.
  202. jms
  203. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  204. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  205. http://www.thestation.com
  206. Date: 6 Feb 1998 22:21:45 -0700
  207. Subject: Re: Attn jms : Where is SiL?
  208. >who has the copy of SiL, Warner Brothers, Bab. Productions, or TNT?
  209. To make sure it didn't get out accidentally, we've held onto it, and have not
  210. yet put in the CGI to make sure it didn't get aired by accident.
  211. jms
  212. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  213. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  214. http://www.thestation.com
  215. Date: 7 Feb 1998 10:15:55 -0700
  216. Subject: Re: attn jms: You've had a lot of fun writing these,
  217. If it weren't fun, wouldn't be no point in doing it....
  218. jms
  219. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  220. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  221. http://www.thestation.com
  222. Date: 7 Feb 1998 10:16:44 -0700
  223. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Last 3 titles
  224. >Now that you have written the last 3 episodes, could you reveal their
  225. >titles?
  226. I could.
  227. jms
  228. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  229. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  230. http://www.thestation.com
  231. Date: 7 Feb 1998 10:17:18 -0700
  232. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: How do you feel?
  233. >Now that a major portion of your work
  234. >will be over are you not going to know what to do with all that free time?
  235. What free time?
  236. >You must feel relieved, sad, euphoric, and proud because that's what you've
  237. >done to me in just the first few episodes this season. I bet you'll be able
  238. >to identify with how Sinclair would have felt if he'd stayed after year one,
  239. >being outside the action a little more.
  240. Certainly all those emotions and still others raced through me when I finished
  241. typing the last words of episode 522 a few days ago. There's no way to
  242. describe it.
  243. >So what's left to do as Executive
  244. >Producer these next few weeks?
  245. Writing the next 2 movies, to be shot in April/May; doing all the other
  246. production stuff (working with the various departments -- costume, prosthetics,
  247. CGI, sets, directors, actors), post production stuff (doing the editing,
  248. working with the composer on music, others on sound, more CGI, other stuff),
  249. dealing with the mountain of licensing approvals that has piled up on my desk
  250. due to being more interested in the show than that stuff, and (one hopes)
  251. shortly gearing up for Crusade.
  252. Also just had a new 4-hour miniseries that I wrote optioned by a major company.
  253. Other than that, not much going on.
  254. jms
  255. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  256. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  257. http://www.thestation.com
  258. Date: 8 Feb 1998 11:30:24 -0700
  259. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Curious phrasing
  260. No, I phrased it that way only because it isn't the last episode of the season,
  261. that's "Sleeping in Light," shot last year.
  262. jms
  263. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  264. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  265. http://www.thestation.com
  266. Date: 9 Feb 1998 09:19:01 -0700
  267. Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS
  268. >-In season 2, we had all these cool 'exterior' kind of shots into
  269. >Sheridan's Office and Earhart's. (Ex: the shot of Londo at the window
  270. >of Sheridan's office in "Geo. of Shadows") What ever happened to them?
  271. >
  272. >
  273. Bottom line...I keep forgetting to write them in.
  274. >-I'm a columbia house guy, collecting all the tapes -I wonder what
  275. >versions of the shows you are using. For instance, in the US, we lost
  276. >the "Whole Garden Maze" in the ep with Londo and Morden in the Garden.
  277. >Are we gonna get the complete UK version or the US version?
  278. The US version was only for the first airing; all subsequent airings have been
  279. correct, and should be correct here (they told us they burned the incorrect
  280. master...we'll see).
  281. jms
  282. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  283. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  284. http://www.thestation.com
  285. Date: 9 Feb 1998 09:35:58 -0700
  286. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: How do you feel?
  287. >About which, of course, being the modest person you are, you will not tell
  288. >us anything unless we specifically ask.
  289. >
  290. >Hint? Itty bitty spoiler? even an "eep", huh, prettly please, huh? :-)
  291. Because it's based on a true story, and I'd rather not have anyone else jump
  292. the claim here, I'll be quiet for now.
  293. jms
  294. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  295. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  296. http://www.thestation.com
  297. Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:27:29 -0700
  298. Subject: Re: I've got the B5 merchandise blues.
  299. You can also order all this stuff from thestation.com, and we'll get it out
  300. fast.
  301. But I'll send a note to Sonic about your situation.
  302. jms
  303. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  304. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  305. http://www.thestation.com
  306. Date: 10 Feb 1998 14:27:49 -0700
  307. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: your projectss
  308. >Vocabulary lesson, please.
  309. >"Optioned" means that a major company can make the miniseries, but doesn't
  310. >have to, correct?
  311. An option is the standard protocol in deal making. It is a fee paid to the
  312. writer allowing the studio or network to hold onto the material while it puts
  313. together the rest of the deal. Consider it a downpayment. Once the deal is in
  314. place, the rest of the money follows.
  315. jms
  316. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  317. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  318. http://www.thestation.com
  319. Date: 12 Feb 1998 06:30:00 -0700
  320. Subject: A View from the Gallery ( *Spoilers* )
  321. Spoilers for A View from the Gallery
  322. >In one scene Byron and friends combine to turn away an
  323. >invading soldier, but in another scene Byron alone places images into the
  324. >mind of the maintenance worker, Bo. Why did Byron need help with the
  325. >soldier but not with Bo?
  326. Because there's a substantial difference in will and intent in making a person
  327. who's come to murder you turn around, and creating a momentary illusion in
  328. someone's head. It's the degree of effort involved.
  329. jms
  330. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  331. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  332. http://www.thestation.com
  333. Date: 14 Feb 1998 09:00:45 -0700
  334. Subject: Re: Attn JMS Gallifrey?
  335. Yeah, I'll be blipping into the Gallifrey convention Sunday afternoon for an
  336. hour-plus presentation and some autographing thereafter.
  337. jms
  338. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  339. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  340. http://www.thestation.com
  341. Date: 14 Feb 1998 09:00:57 -0700
  342. Subject: Re: Lockley's hair was Re: First Take - A View from the Gallery
  343. Scoggins did exactly what you suggest, Diane. She figured, "This isn't about
  344. hair." She was awakened, and had to get to C&C fast, she ain't gonna do her
  345. hair, just ponytail it back.
  346. She didn't realize, in making that choice, that it would make her a) look that
  347. severe in the uniform, since she was still getting used to it, and b) give her
  348. the Ivanova "peanut-head" as she used to call it. She later realized this was
  349. a bit of an error, and has never done it since.
  350. jms
  351. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  352. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  353. http://www.thestation.com
  354. Date: 14 Feb 1998 09:01:16 -0700
  355. Subject: Re: A View from the Gallery
  356. >Remember, with the gravity produced by the station's
  357. >rotation, portholes must be in the floor. Hence, in _The Long Dark_,
  358. >Schultz's character appeared to be looking through a floor drain. For
  359. >Bo and Mack to have looked out the porthole in the lower wall, they must
  360. >have been walking down a rather steep incline.
  361. Nope.
  362. Look carefully at the station. It is in segments; and at the outer wall of
  363. each of those segments, as with the sanctuary, you can get an outer view. You
  364. can see the lights from some of these areas that have portholes in the station
  365. when it's dark.
  366. jms
  367. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  368. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  369. http://www.thestation.com
  370. Date: 15 Feb 1998 09:42:49 -0700
  371. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Claudia line...direct hit! ("AVFtG" spoilers)
  372. Correct; it was never meant as a shot at Claudia, but rather at the folks out
  373. there whose only interest is in rumors, and starting trouble, and feeding
  374. feuds.
  375. jms
  376. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  377. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  378. http://www.thestation.com
  379. Date: 15 Feb 1998 09:42:59 -0700
  380. Subject: Re: Where is B5 getting all its starfuries/
  381. This issue comes up in about a week.
  382. jms
  383. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  384. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  385. http://www.thestation.com
  386. Date: 17 Feb 1998 22:16:44 -0700
  387. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Now that it's all over...
  388. >How do you feel?
  389. >
  390. >
  391. I've felt pretty much everything since finishing 522...but most of all, I guess
  392. I feel relieved that we actually did what we said we were going to do, and went
  393. the distance.
  394. jms
  395. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  396. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  397. http://www.thestation.com
  398. Date: 17 Feb 1998 22:16:59 -0700
  399. Subject: Re: To jms: Babylon 5 and other science fiction shows
  400. >You have mentioned on many occasions
  401. >that one of the things you wanted to do with this show was deviate from
  402. >more "traditional" American science fiction, such as Star Trek. Do you
  403. >actually not like these shows, or did you just want to make
  404. >something different?
  405. It's the latter. To do something differently isn't to say that it wasn't done
  406. right before. It's not a good/bad issue. I wanted to do something that
  407. nobody'd done before, in part BECAUSE nobody'd ever done it before...where's
  408. the challenge otherwise?
  409. jms
  410. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  411. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  412. http://www.thestation.com
  413. Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:42:42 -0700
  414. Subject: Re: Attn. JMS: Many thanks for your help
  415. >Thanks much for helping out with my question a week or two ago regarding
  416. >Sonic Images' customer service. My friend got his Christmas gift at last,
  417. >with apologies (and a little something extra) from the gang at Sonic Images,
  418. >and justice is done.
  419. I live to serve.
  420. jms
  421. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  422. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  423. http://www.thestation.com
  424. Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:42:50 -0700
  425. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: No liscensed White Star models? What's This...?
  426. It is most definitely and emphatically NOT licensed, and NOT official, and
  427. anyone buying this is being ripped off if they are being told otherwise.
  428. jms
  429. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  430. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  431. http://www.thestation.com
  432. Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:43:02 -0700
  433. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS Re: TNT Cuts scene from V-in W part 1
  434. Yes, this is true...an engineer punched in the wrong time-code on the act-in.
  435. jms
  436. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  437. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  438. http://www.thestation.com
  439. Date: 19 Feb 1998 08:43:12 -0700
  440. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: The New TNT Movie Story Ideas
  441. They asked what I'd like to do in a couple of movies...I thought about it, and
  442. sent on a couple of brief premises...they read 'em said they loved 'em, and to
  443. go and do. Creatively, they're leaving us completely on our own, something
  444. we've earned with them.
  445. jms
  446. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  447. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  448. http://www.thestation.com
  449. Date: 20 Feb 1998 13:19:24 -0700
  450. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Marcus Cole
  451. There are no current plans for anything further from Marcus this side of the
  452. grave.
  453. jms
  454. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  455. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  456. http://www.thestation.com
  457. Date: 20 Feb 1998 13:21:18 -0700
  458. Subject: Re: Learning Curve ( *Spoilers* )
  459. > please
  460. >please please don't throw in a typical jelousy-based story line with the
  461. >little woman mad about a prior relationship. Geeeez.
  462. It's amazing to see how many people (not speaking directly to you, but the
  463. flood of email and public posts on this) who go right for cliche in how
  464. something like this would be handled, and then have jumped to the conclusion
  465. that that's what would be done *here*.
  466. Believe me, that aspect ain't what this thread is about.
  467. jms
  468. jms
  469. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  470. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  471. http://www.thestation.com
  472. Date: 22 Feb 1998 01:11:00 -0700
  473. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Another Quickie on further TNT movies
  474. Thirdspace is set in the 4th season, about one-third in.
  475. jms
  476. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  477. B5 Official Fan Club at:
  478. http://www.thestation.com
  479. Date: 22 Feb 1998 01:15:23 -0700
  480. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: My Take on Season 5
  481. Charles, at risk of being terribly unproducerish...will you for chrsissakes
  482. relax?
  483. Everything you're saying about Lochley here -- and I mean EVERYTHING -- was
  484. said about Claudia Christian when she came on board as Ivanova. "Oh, she's
  485. wooden, she's trying to hard to be tough, get rid of her and bring back
  486. Takashima."
  487. I told people to give her time, they'd learn that there's more there than meets
  488. the eye. They said I was making excuses for a poor casting choice. So let's
  489. all just give the woman and the character a chance, okay? You've seen her now
  490. in a total of 3 episodes, which were designed to put her toe-to-toe with
  491. Garibaldi. There's more there.
  492. And yeah, I wanted to give viewers a rest-up for a bit after the excesses of
  493. S4. Okay, so you can't see where it's going. That's okay by me (you don't see
  494. the coming telepath situation, for starters?)...people were saying in seasons 1
  495. and most of 2 that they didn't see it then, either...then they saw it when I
  496. chose to let it be seen.
  497. This year has one of the most intense series of arcs we've ever DONE. And by
  498. the end of it you'll be happy you HAD these few lighter episodes because I'm
  499. going to kick the crap out of the viewers. We have not just one, but two and
  500. maybe (depending on how it comes out) three episodes this season I'd put toe to
  501. toe with Coming of Shadows for intensity, for arc, for major shifts.
  502. Further:
  503. People saw "By Any Means Necessary," and said it wasn't an arc episode...it was
  504. just about a strike. But later, after what came up, this was seen as the FIRST
  505. EPISODE in the real turn-around and reversal of Londo/G'kar...here Londo was
  506. being the bad guy for the first time, and here G'Kar was showing a spiritual
  507. side. That one episode marked the absolute start of that reversal...which only
  508. became clear well AFTER the fact. DURING the fact, I had to put up with people
  509. assuming that it had nothing to do with the arc.
  510. How can you say you don't think it's going anywhere when you haven't seen where
  511. it's gone?
  512. Y'know if I were just an audience member, I'd be sitting back and enjoying this
  513. show and wondering where it's going to go without making judgements based on
  514. ZERO information on where it is or isn't going. Have you read the scripts? Do
  515. you know what's in 518?
  516. Have you seen the shot where a tearful Delenn embraces Londo for what may be
  517. the last time? Have you seen the phoenix that rises out of Byron's actions?
  518. Have you heard about the bombing of Psi Corps back home? Have you seen what's
  519. living under the palace on Centauri Prime? Have you seen what the regent sees
  520. when he looks up on the very last night of his life? Have you seen the
  521. terrible darkness that Lennier discovers at the worst possible moment of his
  522. life? Have you seen the REAL other side of Lyta, and what she can do? Have
  523. you seen the Drazi homeworld, and the terrible secret they're hiding there?
  524. Have you?
  525. Because that's only a FRACTION of what is coming this season, the smallest
  526. part.
  527. Maybe you're getting reruns of episodes...I'm getting reruns of comments from
  528. past seasons...which were shown to be wrong then, and they're wrong now.
  529. Let's talk about Season 5 as a whole once you've actually SEEN it, shall we?
  530. jms
  531. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  532. B5 Official Fan Club at:
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  534. Date: 22 Feb 1998 23:18:27 -0700
  535. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: My Take on Season 5
  536. As long as I'm being unproducerish....
  537. >Still,
  538. >continuity is earned and not promised; it develops organically and not
  539. >merely retrospectively. Insisting that there is an arc on the basis of
  540. >future developments amounts to a cheat, and an embarassing one on the part
  541. >of a writer of JMS's stature.
  542. I'm sorry, but this comment ranks in the top ten percentile of astonishingly
  543. paralogical remarks I've ever seen. What you're saying here is that the ONLY
  544. thing that constitutes an arc is if the audience sees it before it happens, if
  545. it's told it's there...as opposed to an arc that becomes clear in the light of
  546. FUTURE EVENTS.
  547. But an arc IS A STORY THAT GOES INTO THE FUTURE EVENTS. That is the very
  548. DEFINITION of it. How many people here said they started watching B5 in its
  549. first season and didn't know there was an arc until "Signs and Portents?"
  550. Plenty, I've seen them. So unless it's *predictible*, unless you've been
  551. briefed ahead of time that something's coming, paying it off in the future,
  552. which is how I'm writing it, doesn't count.
  553. Yes, I referred to future developments because THAT IS WHAT AN ARC IS, future
  554. developments.
  555. This is the most astonishing conversation I've had on the nets in months.
  556. Excuse me, I think I'll go get a ball peen hammer and bang myself between the
  557. eyes for a couple of hours, it'd be easier and less painful in the long run....
  558. jms
  559. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  560. B5 Official Fan Club at:
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  562. Date: 23 Feb 1998 11:45:03 -0700
  563. Subject: Re: Strawmen, irritation with
  564. Russ:
  565. You're setting up just as many strawmen as those you cite.
  566. Basic and fundamental truism: if somebody doesn't like an episode, I'm
  567. absolutely okay with that. Some episodes, like the Mack and Bo show, the
  568. coming Psi Corps show, Deconstruction, those are written with the full
  569. knowledge that it's going to divide people's opinions. I *expect* that it'll
  570. be cleanly divided between those who hate it, and those who love it.
  571. Basic and fundamental truism #2: No show, no single episode, will appeal to
  572. everyone. It's a bell curve: some at one end will hate it, some at the other
  573. will love it, most will be generally in the middle. It's if that bell curve
  574. starts to skew one way or the other that you have to watch.
  575. All that I and others have been doing is pointing out realities to those who
  576. have, in essence, said that something isn't there when it is. How many times
  577. lately have I read, here or on other nets, "Now that we're in reruns we see all
  578. the threads that tied the show together that we didn't see before, all the
  579. foreshadowings of what was to come."
  580. There's a lot of stuff seeded in these early episodes that will, as with the
  581. first several seasons, be more apparent in retrospect. That's ALWAYS been the
  582. case with B5.
  583. I'm also trying to provide a historical perspective. People jump on Lochley
  584. saying she's wooden (meaning she doesn't overact and chew the scenery as with
  585. so much of what passes for TV acting)...and preferring Ivanova...completely
  586. forgetting that for most of the first season, and then some, people were
  587. complaining that Ivanova was wooden, they didn't like her Russian accent (which
  588. she didn't even have), they said "dump her." They did the same thing with Vir.
  589. "Flounder in space! Throw him out an airlock."
  590. Then, later, as the characters continue on, the opinions change. This has been
  591. the pattern from the very first day of this show. I see nothing wrong with
  592. noting this. If it's proper to critique the show, and it is, good or bad, why
  593. is it bad to critique the criticisms and bring a historical perspective to the
  594. discussion?
  595. Look...if somebody doesn't like an episode, I'm fine with that, always have
  596. been. It's when it enters into the sweeping generalizations category,
  597. paralogia or downright silliness about the season as a whole, which nobody's
  598. seen yet, that I finally have to say "c'mon..."
  599. jms
  600. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
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  603. Date: 24 Feb 1998 11:34:41 -0700
  604. Subject: Re: To jms: Babylon 5 and other science fiction shows
  605. I've actually heard from some other folks on other SF style shows that our
  606. tendency to push things has make it a bit easier for them to get tougher
  607. stories through. This is a Good Thing. The more quality SF series, the better
  608. for everybody.
  609. jms
  610. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  611. B5 Official Fan Club at:
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  613. Date: 24 Feb 1998 11:43:25 -0700
  614. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS - Seven Days In May and the Earth arc
  615. Thanks...Seven Days in May is an excellent movie, one of several that, if I'm
  616. channel-surfing and come across, I can't *not* watch it. They did a more
  617. recent version of it for cable -- HBO, I think -- but the original will always
  618. be my favorite.
  619. And yeah, Rod had an amazing way with words...still holds me in awe.
  620. BTW, if you liked that one, I commend Fail Safe to you as well as The
  621. Manchurian Candidate.
  622. jms
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  624. B5 Official Fan Club at:
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  626. Date: 24 Feb 1998 11:43:47 -0700
  627. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: What are you hiding?
  628. > WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
  629. That would be telling.
  630. jms
  631. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
  632. B5 Official Fan Club at:
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  634. Date: 24 Feb 1998 11:43:57 -0700
  635. Subject: Re: Attn: JMS: Silly questions
  636. >- My husband wants to know if there are really 10 Zathrai, or whether it is
  637. >just one that has been time travelling *way* too much.
  638. Yes, there are ten Zathri...despite the restraining order.
  639. >- I was wondering if you could explain a bit more about how you manage to do
  640. >things like bring in new major characters. You have said that you know what
  641. >threads need to be continued somehow, so I imagine you start with that.
  642. >What
  643. >needs to be accomplished and can any of the regulars take that over? If not,
  644. >I
  645. >picture in my mind your going to the B5 universe and saying " I need someone
  646. >who can, for example, run the station, keep the major characters on their
  647. >toes
  648. >and handle emergencies with minimal violence - who do we have that can handle
  649. >it?" Then a few people show up and you pick the one that suits your needs
  650. >best.
  651. That comes pretty close...it's a matter of looking at the logistics and
  652. backgrounds of people and, if a thread has to be adjusted ("What do you MEAN
  653. Wayne Alexander just got hit by an asteroid?!) you look at the next logical
  654. person in the show whom you can then beat up even further.
  655. It's not quite "one of you step forward," but it's close.
  656. And sometimes it's a situation where you know that actor X hasn't had as much
  657. to do as might've been the case, and an opening in thread A lets you do more
  658. with that person.
  659. jms
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  663. Date: 24 Feb 1998 11:44:07 -0700
  664. Subject: Re: Very Interesting Experiment/Suggestion
  665. What the experiment also does, which you touch on, is to show how changing an
  666. angle on an actor, making it a close-up rather than a long shot, can make the
  667. scene more or less dynamic...how you can get out of scenes earlier than in the
  668. first version, and thus pick up the pace.
  669. It is, as you say, most educational.
  670. jms
  671. (jmsatb5@aol.com)
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  674. Date: 25 Feb 1998 14:06:29 -0700
  675. Subject: Re: attn. jms: one pass viewing or 2 pass?
  676. >When you write the episodes with foreshadowing and other such puzzle
  677. >pieces to be clarified later, do you do so with the intent of the viewer
  678. >watching reruns of old episodes on a second pass and seeing how all the
  679. >pieces fit together, or do you write with the intent of the first
  680. >viewing pass, with the foreshadowing having more of a subliminal effect
  681. >preparing for the further denouement? You couldn't have known that TNT
  682. >was going to pick up the show and run all the back episodes could you?
  683. >
  684. >
  685. Whether it was TNT or someone else, it was inevitable that someone would pick
  686. up the reruns of the show; so I put stuff in to work both ways, as
  687. foreshadowing, and things you could pick up on later, on re-viewing, that
  688. suddenly jump out at you.
  689. jms
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  693. Date: 26 Feb 1998 15:47:31 -0700
  694. Subject: Re: Attn: JMS - History - Season 5 spoiler (sort of)
  695. >Will we get to learn more about the history between Byron and Bester?
  696. >
  697. >
  698. A-yup.
  699. jms
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  703. Date: 26 Feb 1998 15:47:41 -0700
  704. Subject: Re: Nothing in this place is as it appears.
  705. >But then again, he could be the cigar who's just a cigar.
  706. I thin Corwin's more of a tiparillo....
  707. jms
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  711. Date: 27 Feb 1998 00:55:15 -0700
  712. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: SR song
  713. No, I came up with that song for the episode, and designed it to sound like any
  714. of a zillion other such songs out there, so it'd sound familiar.
  715. jms
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  719. Date: 28 Feb 1998 18:12:08 -0700
  720. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: When is the final day?
  721. >1. When is the final day of Season 5 shooting?
  722. >
  723. It's either March 20th or 21st, I forget....
  724. >2. If the existing B5 cast is appearing in the currently planned movies,
  725. >when are they scheduled to finish shooting?
  726. We'll likely shoot in April through May.
  727. jms
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