The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  1. Subject: Big Bang Con: Refunds
  2. Date: 1 Apr 1995 02:06:27 -0500
  3. I'm wondering if the "tell us WHY you're requesting a refund" is to
  4. try and set up B5 for a lawsuit....
  5. jms
  6. Subject: Re: Continuity between variou
  7. Date: 1 Apr 1995 05:03:19 -0500
  8. It is nowhere stated that the messages to Garibaldi or Delenn is
  9. the first communication they've had from Sinclair; only the first that
  10. WE've seen.
  11. jms
  12. Subject: Fear of flying?
  13. Date: 1 Apr 1995 20:36:18 -0500
  14. It's Ray Bradbury who hates to fly.
  15. jms
  16. Subject: ATTN JMS: Uploading the arc?
  17. Date: 2 Apr 1995 22:01:34 -0400
  18. My notes, alas, are very free-form, jumping back and forth; so you
  19. can't just peel off the year 1-2 notes without substantial editing. I.e.,
  20. "Have Kosh say X because we'll need this in year 2 when X does Y."
  21. jms
  22. Subject: JMS: UK C4 ratings
  23. Date: 3 Apr 1995 05:37:11 -0400
  24. Yeah, I'd love to see the C4 ratings; if you think it'd be better
  25. email, that's fine, or public, either way. I understand we're doing VERY
  26. well at C4, one of their higher-rated American shows, but I haven't been
  27. given the hard-and-crunchies by WB International.
  28. jms
  29. Subject: ATTN JMS: Point about bloopers
  30. Date: 3 Apr 1995 05:23:13 -0400
  31. Bloopers still use the likenesses of the actors, ARE the actors, shot
  32. on our sets, using our costumes...one can't take that and sell it around
  33. town without giving something back to the actors, I think. If we should
  34. end up ever selling the blooper, or scripts, we would find some formula to
  35. give back to those involved.
  36. I'd expect to hear more on the CD Rom after the 3rd year pickup.
  37. Valen willing.
  38. jms
  39. Subject: Attn: JMS - "Only decent SF on
  40. Date: 3 Apr 1995 21:37:25 -0400
  41. I slipped the reference to B5 into OtherSyde to see if it would become
  42. a self-fulfilling prophecy or just a fictional reference. Just for fun.
  43. My books are out of print because I guess I haven't actively pursued
  44. keeping them IN print. When I finish my next novel, I'll probably be able
  45. to get them back into print, but that won't be until B5 is done, since the
  46. next book -- a contemporary dark fantasy -- is targeted at about 1,000
  47. manuscript pages, and I won't really be able to get into it until then.
  48. jms
  49. Subject: New to list
  50. Date: 4 Apr 1995 19:02:19 -0400
  51. Thanks for joining the ranks, Steve.
  52. jms
  53. Subject: From JMS re: Poster Request
  54. Date: 5 Apr 1995 00:57:32 -0400
  55. As has been noted, a number of items were sold at Vulkon in Cleveland
  56. that should not have been sold. We're trying to acquire some of the
  57. posters that were being sold at the Big Bang table, specifically the ones
  58. marked that they were to benefit Project Starfury. If you have one, and
  59. would like to let it go, we'll trade you either an official B5 crew cap,
  60. or an autographed copy of our very first script for the B5 series,
  61. "Midnight on the Firing Line." If you're so inclined, drop me a note in
  62. email and I'll get you the address. Thanks.
  63. jms
  64. Subject: What's up with Mojo???
  65. Date: 6 Apr 1995 04:51:08 -0400
  66. The Lightwave software is being exported to DOS platforms, so that's
  67. the reason for the change-over.
  68. BTW, Ron's gotten in some *very* nifty new software, and has come
  69. up with some new tricks that I hope we can incorporate before the end of
  70. this season, all again blurring the line between physical models, CGI and
  71. Real Stuff.
  72. jms
  73. Subject: favorite scene so far...
  74. Date: 6 Apr 1995 04:56:52 -0400
  75. Re: the shadow vessels flying overhead as Londo looks up...that was
  76. me. If my name's on a script, and you see something there as a story
  77. point, it was in the script.
  78. That particular image is very striking, and I think part of that comes
  79. from its origins: I've had dreams with just that sort of image. There's
  80. something that just *gets* to you on a very subconscious, almost cellular
  81. level, when you see that scene...I don't know why, but it does.
  82. jms
  83. Subject: A possibly nasty metaphor
  84. Date: 6 Apr 1995 05:01:53 -0400
  85. David: you hit it *exactly* on the head. Again, as you point out,
  86. stuff here operates on a lot of different levels. I try, where I can, to
  87. make a given scene do more than one thing. The hall argument is a good
  88. example of this. The script stipulated a human being stuck between G'Kar
  89. and Londo. Not any other race. Had to be a human. Because that becomes
  90. emblematic of how we're stuck between the two sides in the war, something
  91. which is *very* strongly brought home in the next batch of episodes.
  92. Obviously, the first most important thing in that scene is just the
  93. gag, the humor. It has to work on that level, and that's how it came to
  94. me first: just the gag. Then, when it came time to write it, that's when
  95. I start poking at things to see if I can layer on another level of
  96. meaning, and I saw a way to do a little (very little) visual foreshadowing
  97. of stuff to come. Didn't matter if anybody ever noticed it or not; it
  98. was never really intended to be of much note, just a little item that
  99. becomes a nice bit of irony later.
  100. jms
  101. Subject: Attn: JMS - Are there churches
  102. Date: 6 Apr 1995 04:59:53 -0400
  103. There isn't sufficient room in B5 to accommodate a variety of plaes
  104. (places) of worship; hence, some rooms are set aside for use by different
  105. people as needed and as available. The sanctuary is often used for this,
  106. as is the rotunda.
  107. jms
  108. Subject: ATTN JMS: How Much Surround?
  109. Date: 6 Apr 1995 02:40:58 -0400
  110. The amount of surround that goes into a show depends on the nature
  111. of the show. For instance, there was some very good use of surround in
  112. "A Race Through Dark Places," "And the Sky Full of Stars," "Mind War"
  113. and "The Long Dark." If it's just a casual Zocalo scene, there ain't
  114. much you can do with it.
  115. jms
  116. Subject: ATTN: JMS, Why Only 22 Episode
  117. Date: 8 Apr 1995 21:47:59 -0400
  118. All PTEN series are 22 eps per season.
  119. Season three (PTEN willing) would start in November.
  120. jms
  121. Subject: How Were Shadows Defeated Firs
  122. Date: 8 Apr 1995 22:05:40 -0400
  123. All the questions you asked here, Mike, will be answered in the
  124. very next batch of new eps, airing in May.
  125. jms
  126. Subject: JMS: Thanks
  127. Date: 8 Apr 1995 22:18:39 -0400
  128. Thanks; it's been fun, that's for sure.
  129. jms
  130. Subject: > Attn: JMS - Who is Douglas N
  131. Date: 8 Apr 1995 22:40:37 -0400
  132. Doug Netter is my business partner in Babylon 5, and co-owner of
  133. Babylonian Productions, along with me. A lot of what he does is the
  134. behind the scenes business stuff, sometimes liaisoning (?) with Warner
  135. Bros. on those conversations when it's considered too dangerous to let
  136. me talk to them directly, and sitting in on casting, that sort of thing.
  137. A lot of what he does is mollifying execs when I make them nuts; he tends
  138. to get a lot of phone calls that begin with, "Do you KNOW what he's done
  139. NOW?"
  140. jms
  141. Subject: B5-Micromachines observation
  142. Date: 8 Apr 1995 22:42:37 -0400
  143. As it happens, I just had some new prototypes of MicroMacs from B5
  144. come through my office for approval. Some nifty stuff, including the
  145. atmospheric shuttle, a Narn heavy cruiser, the awful purple Centauri
  146. liner, and the President's Earthforce One, which is REALLY nifty....
  147. jms
  148. Subject: Can Starfuries fly in atmosphe
  149. Date: 10 Apr 1995 00:18:03 -0400
  150. As established in "A Voice in the Wilderness," season one, starfuries
  151. cannot function within an atmosphere environment.
  152. jms
  153. Subject: tCoS: Londo's Dream
  154. Date: 10 Apr 1995 00:18:44 -0400
  155. Londo, in his vision, sees the shadow vessels, but he does not know
  156. (in his present tense version) that that's what they are. He's had this
  157. particular dream for years now, long before meeting Morden.
  158. jms
  159. Subject: ATTN JMS: show renewal?
  160. Date: 10 Apr 1995 03:04:49 -0400
  161. We'll know by the end of the month.
  162. jms
  163. Subject: Re: What's up with Babcom 95 ?
  164. Date: 11 Apr 1995 03:21:35 -0400
  165. The problem, of course, is that fan cons usually operate very close
  166. to the financial edge, because they're *not* about making money. Which is
  167. good on one level, on several actually...but the problem you run into is
  168. when you then have to bring in guests from overseas. Traveling from the
  169. US to the UK costs a LOT of money, plus hotel, food, on and on. Most of
  170. the smaller fan-run cons can't afford to do that in general, or for only
  171. one person; a profit con really represents the only chance most people will
  172. ever have to see several people from a given show, though Wolf 359 is doing
  173. a bit more in that area.
  174. jms
  175. Subject: Ship designs reflect on '2010'
  176. Date: 11 Apr 1995 03:22:04 -0400
  177. The ships on 2010 and Babylon 5 operate out of the necessity of
  178. traveling without standard SF artificial gravity. These designs have been
  179. discussed among scientists (in general) for ages; so there's no intention
  180. to be close to 2010, but when both are based upon the same scientific
  181. principles, there will be echoes. Form follows function.
  182. jms
  183. Subject: ATTN JMS:
  184. Date: 11 Apr 1995 04:25:50 -0400
  185. Jeff: that would be a fair assumption based on what the technomages
  186. said, yes. Keep an eye out for "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum" for more.
  187. jms
  188. Subject: ATTN JMS: AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!
  189. Date: 11 Apr 1995 20:35:32 -0400
  190. It's certainly my hope that Warners will rerun the first season at the
  191. conclusion of this season.
  192. jms
  193. Subject: Re: What's up with Babcom 95 ?
  194. Date: 11 Apr 1995 20:33:12 -0400
  195. As it happens, I've had occasion to have several long talks with the
  196. Babcom organizers, and have nudged them more in the direction of doing more
  197. of the things one might expect at a fan-con: more interaction, more
  198. personalization, breaking down the walls a bit. Some of the things now
  199. under discussion: a more relaxed social situation, close to an ice cream
  200. social sort of thing, so it isn't all just a presentation; a personal
  201. Q&A session about breaking into TV; Peter has spoken to them about letting
  202. folks watch as the Optic Nerve people make him up into Londo; and others.
  203. Again, these are still in the conversation stage, but my sense to try and
  204. encourage them toward a more personalized and fan-responsive format.
  205. jms
  206. Subject: Re: Atheism (was "New Age" jms
  207. Date: 11 Apr 1995 20:52:21 -0400
  208. The notion that if one says, "I do not believe in God," that one is
  209. making "a positive religious claim" and thus is religius is, of course,
  210. eminently silly. If I do not believe in green penguins at the north pole,
  211. am I now a believer in non-green-penguinism? If I were to sit down and
  212. itemize all the things I don't believe in, then by your statment these are
  213. now beliefs, and there are an infinite number of beliefs because there are
  214. potentially an infinite number of things I don't believe in, and I'm not
  215. sure I can sustain that many beliefs without imploding.
  216. The first rule of debate and sophistry is to redefine the terms of the
  217. argument in terms favorable to your position. This is what's being done
  218. in the "if you don't believe, you therefore believe" argument.
  219. jms
  220. Subject: speculations about confessios
  221. Date: 12 Apr 1995 02:10:44 -0400
  222. Note: the original message in this thread goes beyond speculation based
  223. based on what's presented to portraying an entirely new story idea. To
  224. avoid further complications, I might recommend moving on.
  225. jms
  226. Subject: B5 MicroMachine news (maybe)
  227. Date: 12 Apr 1995 03:01:24 -0400
  228. The MicroMachines *are* out, they *have* been purchased, and more are
  229. being commissioned. (Several new prototypes came through my office for
  230. approval last week, including a Narn heavy cruiser and Earthforce 1.) I
  231. can only conclude that some dealers, who didn't know or think to orde
  232. them, are saying they're not coming out just to cover their own butts.
  233. jms
  234. Subject: READ comic 5
  235. Date: 13 Apr 1995 01:57:48 -0400
  236. I have to say I'm very pleased with issue #5. It came out very well,
  237. and nicely captures both the look, feel and dialogue of the show. There
  238. were some bumps along the way in issues 2-4, so I didn't say much, but
  239. THIS one I can highly recommend.
  240. jms
  241. Subject: Big Bang: ATTN JMS
  242. Date: 13 Apr 1995 01:58:24 -0400
  243. Faramarz: after I went to Chicago to check out how the con was going
  244. to be run (before this we only had what we'd been told over the phone), I
  245. came away with the terrible belief that this convention was not going to
  246. be run properly, was incapable of being fixed (after providing several
  247. chances for the organizers to show they could do so), and had to make a
  248. hard decision: back away, or endorse a convention that I don't believe in,
  249. which I believed was systemically flawed, and the hell with the fans who
  250. get burned. It's a crummy decision to have to make, and I didn't like
  251. having to make it. But there *is* no middle ground on this.
  252. If you want to book passage on the Titanic, and I keep suggesting
  253. that maybe that might not be a good idea...am I being unfair to the
  254. passengers?
  255. jms
  256. Subject: ATTN JMS: Speculation vs Story
  257. Date: 13 Apr 1995 04:25:49 -0400
  258. I didn't read much of that thread (since I already know who jms is
  259. going to kill next), but nothing of what I saw crossed any lines into
  260. story ideas. It's when new scenarios are painted in detail ("And then
  261. Sheridan met the great cosmic space moose, who gave him the Golden Wazoo
  262. of the Minbari, which was actually the alien healing device with a
  263. mustache")...that any trouble emerges.
  264. jm(who can now no longer do this story)s
  265. Subject: ATTN JMS: Re: Atheism (was "Ne
  266. Date: 13 Apr 1995 04:54:07 -0400
  267. If I say to you, "Did you lock the car door when you parked it?" and
  268. you say, "I believe so," is that a belief that is equal to, say, the
  269. tenets of Judaism? Is that equal to the theses Martin Luther nailed to
  270. the church door? Are you now a believer in Locked-Doorism?
  271. If you define any belief as reliion, then you diminish and
  272. trivialize religion. (Oops, typo above.) Words mean what they mean, not
  273. what we want them to mean when it is convenient for us. The Oxford
  274. American Dictionary defines religion as "belief in the existence of a
  275. superhuman power, especially of gods or gods, usually expressed in
  276. worship; a particular system of faith and worship."
  277. "Belief" is not the key word in the preceding sentence; it's the
  278. phrase "belief IN the EXISTENCE of a superhuman power." It's what the
  279. belief is IN. If it does not contain the belief IN the existence of a
  280. superhuman power/god, then it is NOT religion. Period.
  281. This is just one more offshoot of the whole (and boy, do I hate to
  282. even mention this) evolution/creation thing, where schools said, "No, we
  283. cannot teach creation, we teach science, not religion." So the
  284. creationists decided to come back with "Oh, but evolution IS a religion,
  285. so why them and not us, huh? Huh?" It's an attempt to redefine terms
  286. for advantage.
  287. Me, I stick with the Oxford Dictionary.
  288. jms
  289. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Re: Atheism NOW
  290. Date: 14 Apr 1995 01:01:13 -0400
  291. If the question is "Which is the greater good, self sacrifice or
  292. honesty within the B5 universe," I'd have to for a third option. Both
  293. of those are behaviors in service to a given cause. And it's the
  294. selection of the greater *cause* that is most important; is it a
  295. constructive cause, or a destructive one? Are you helping humanity step
  296. forward, or step back? This isn't situational ethics, because the ethics
  297. going in have to be the same: building the future, helping those who
  298. cannot help themselves, spreading hope, fighting repression and pushing
  299. for freedom and responsibility as linked concepts.
  300. Our characters in B5 are flawed; sometimes they fall short of their
  301. own goals. The Minbari don't generally lie; but the often tell only part
  302. of the truth. If G'Kar has gotten away with something in the pilot, and
  303. can't be brought to standard justice, some other way of meting out
  304. justice will be found, even if that means fibbing to him about a
  305. transmitter he's swallowed...i.e., lying.
  306. But even Sinclair said it: everybody lies. Everybody means
  307. everybody. Even if it's only a case of, "Listen, I tried to make it to
  308. the party, but traffic was just a mess, I got up late, the dog ate my
  309. homework."
  310. I make some distinction between this and my own personal view; the
  311. work of the author does not always represent what the author believes on
  312. a 1-1 basis. (If it did, there'd be NO religion in B5.) Personally, I
  313. think I put loyalty and honesty at the top of my pantheon. I've worked
  314. very hard to maintain a certain reputation, and it means a lot to me.
  315. And anyone here who knows me knows that if you try and go after someone
  316. I consider a friend, you will have to go through me first.
  317. The problem with putting self-sacrifice at the tippy top of your
  318. own personal Maslow's Pyramid of Self-Actualization is that it only
  319. functions as a subset of something else. Self-sacrifice...to do *what*?
  320. You are willing to die for a cause. Is that cause right? Are you too
  321. easily and readily prepared to sacrifice? The other, less terminal form
  322. of self-sacrifice is giving to other people, working to make life better,
  323. but I don't tend to believe that's sacrifice as much as simple personal
  324. responsibility. We should do it as freely and as easily as we breathe.
  325. jms
  326. Subject: So JMS won't spend the money e
  327. Date: 14 Apr 1995 01:02:09 -0400
  328. Babylonian Productions does not skimp or hold back money for
  329. publicity because BP does not have ANY money for publicity or promotion.
  330. Period. Warner Bros. Publicity handles all PR for Babylon 5; we have
  331. zero control over that area, but a little influence, that's all.
  332. Nor can we simply decide, out of the blue, to produce a 23rd episode
  333. of the show. Warners and the stations making up PTEN make an executive
  334. decision on the pickup and number of episodes. It is not within our
  335. purview to violate that. Further, that would mean coming in under budget
  336. over the season in an amount equal to the price of one episode, which we
  337. have never done, and never will. Each season, we come in just a smidge
  338. under budget. And I do mean just a *smidge*. Pocket change, compared to
  339. the overall cost of the show.
  340. The small under-budget from year one was invested into new sets and
  341. costumes and to get a leg-up on CGI for year two. The small year two
  342. underage will likely be put toward the production on year three, assuming
  343. we're renewed. Neither Doug nor I take a dime of that. Recently, Warners
  344. did a spot audit, as they do for any series. They showed up at 9 a.m.,
  345. saying they'd be here for a few days. A few hours later, they said they
  346. might be able to finish by the end of the day. By lunchtime, they were
  347. finished, and said that this was the best set of books they'd ever seen.
  348. So the line about maybe someday putting the profits back into the
  349. series, we've been doing that since day one, insofar as the under-budget.
  350. As for profits...there aren't any that we get. Our contract with WB
  351. gives us a percentage of the NET. Now, anyone who works in Hollywood
  352. knows there's no such thing as net profit. It takes a VERY long time for
  353. a TV series to ever show anything. Once the series is finished, and no
  354. more shows are being produced, and the series enters long-term syndication,
  355. lessening the expenditures, then there may finally be some small profit,
  356. but at that point the show's done.
  357. jms
  358. Subject: ATTN JMS!:WAS SHERIDAN AT THE
  359. Date: 14 Apr 1995 01:03:11 -0400
  360. Sheridan was not at the Line, no; the Minbari hit big at a number of
  361. outer EA systems, then unexpectedly leapfrogged *everything* at once right
  362. into Earth. Several of our bigger ships were still en route.
  363. jm
  364. Subject: "Casting Couch"
  365. Date: 14 Apr 1995 01:12:20 -0400
  366. We're very fortunate in that the casting couch has been less of a
  367. problem in the Industry over the last ten-twenty years than it has been
  368. in the past. The CC was most in play when studios were run by one or two
  369. individuals who could dictate to their producers and directors who to use
  370. in a movie. Over time, as power within studios and networks got more
  371. widely spread among other executives, directors, producers, you name it,
  372. there isn't any one person any longer who has that clout. Does it still
  373. go on? I believe it does, at a much reduced level, and mainly in the
  374. film arena, where again there's more individual discretion.
  375. That kind of discretion is less readily present in TV, so there isn't
  376. the power to fuel the temptation. For instance, on B5, our casting
  377. sessions include: casting director Mary Jo Slater, me, Doug Netter, John
  378. Copeland, Larry (if it's his episode, otherwise not), the director of
  379. that episode, a reader to work opposite the actor, and sometimes, if the
  380. role is crucial opposite a regular performer, that performer is there.
  381. That's as many as 8 people, as opposed to one big studio guy sitting behind
  382. a desk, smoking a stogie and eyeing whoever's opposite him.
  383. jms
  384. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Re: Atheism (was
  385. Date: 14 Apr 1995 02:03:50 -0400
  386. "Religion is the belief ABOUT the existence of a superhuman power."
  387. (As opposed to IN the existence of a superhuman power.)
  388. No, it's not. By your definition, if I'm a Protestant, and I don't
  389. believe in Thor, by virtue of that belief about Thor, now I'm a beliegver
  390. (believer) in Norse mythology. That's simply silly.
  391. There is a difference between saying, "I believe there is no god,"
  392. and "I do not have within me the belief in the existence of a god." The
  393. latter is not a belief in, or about, any kind of power; it is the total
  394. absence of belief. You cannot turn that into a religion, no matter how
  395. many times you repeat your thesis.
  396. jms
  397. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Re: Atheism (was
  398. Date: 14 Apr 1995 02:13:44 -0400
  399. Sorry, Kristin, I won't be put into your box. You say some
  400. comparative religion studies include Dianetics. A professor can choose
  401. to include or exclude anything he or she wants. What's it to me? And
  402. yes, parts of Shinto don't involve god, but parts do.
  403. Most significantly, howver, ALL the examples you cite to me DO
  404. believe in a superhuman power...specifically, a soul, which is reborn in
  405. one way or another in all the beliefs you named. So the definition still
  406. applies.
  407. jms
  408. Subject: ATTN JMS: Question about "Accu
  409. Date: 15 Apr 1995 02:51:32 -0400
  410. The books are canon in broad terms, in that the events generally did
  411. happen, but the details can vary given that you've got diverse hands doing
  412. the work (including the comics). I try to work with them both in as much
  413. detail as I can...I read the novel manuscripts preperatory to being
  414. typeset, and same for the comics, making suggestions and changes as
  415. necessary. (In one comic issue I added a change to one panel that should
  416. send some shockwaves out here and there...just two words that might raise
  417. some neck-hairs.)
  418. jms
  419. Subject: Yes, I *have* gone insane
  420. Date: 15 Apr 1995 02:51:38 -0400
  421. Bed rest. Plenty of fluids. Aspirin every 6 hours. And one very
  422. heavy mallet-whack every two hours. You'll get better, I promise.
  423. jms*
  424. (*who wonders if suggesting mallet-whacking is really such a good
  425. idea, what with the whole Jocelyn Elders thing....)
  426. Subject: ATTN: JMS - Future of B5?
  427. Date: 15 Apr 1995 02:51:44 -0400
  428. We'll know by the end of the month. We continue to be cautiously
  429. optimistic.
  430. jms
  431. Subject: ATTN JMS: Link question
  432. Date: 15 Apr 1995 02:54:53 -0400
  433. The Links are individually coded; when someone says, "Garibaldi to
  434. Sheridan," the Link system (tied into the B5 central computer, which can
  435. also provide research and other data) dials up the code for Sheridan's
  436. link, and breeps. The transmitters are *very* powerful, and are usually
  437. boosted by systems inside B5. If a Link were stolen, it could be
  438. detected instantly upon being used.
  439. jms
  440. Subject: JMS: Silly Question
  441. Date: 15 Apr 1995 02:54:59 -0400
  442. I would think that Londo and G'Kar might actually find something in
  443. common in appreciation of Gilbert and Sullivan. In fact, G'Kar's "little
  444. fishie" song in "Parliament of Dreams" was intended to be a bit G&S in
  445. nature.
  446. jms
  447. Subject: JMS: How are we doing?
  448. Date: 15 Apr 1995 03:07:24 -0400
  449. I'd say that overall the nets, collectively, have done very good at
  450. picking up on what's going on in the show. I think the larger themes have
  451. been missed in places, but I think that in many ways that's because the
  452. larger pieces haven't yet been inserted into the jigsaw puzzle so that
  453. others can see what's going on.
  454. The greatest errors, I think, come in looking too closely for
  455. parallels to other fiction. "Oh, I get it, it's just like X." That line
  456. will lead you only into error.
  457. In any work of fiction, there are two primary elements: theme and
  458. plot. Plot are the incidents, theme is what it's *about* on a very
  459. core level. Plot has been well analyzed; themes not necessarily. To tie
  460. this paragraph and the one preceding, for instance, a number of folks
  461. considered that the events in "Acts of Sacrifice" with the Lumati were a
  462. shot at the Prime Directive/non-interference.
  463. Nothing could have been further from the truth, and it wasn't until
  464. this was mentioned here that it even occured to me. Take a look at
  465. Washington DC these days, and the larger culture. People being
  466. warehoused, other people who *should* be in homes shoved out onto the
  467. streets to fend for themselves, a general callousness that seems to be
  468. creeping into the bones of a society that was born on the premise that
  469. we should be at minimum kind to one another. I figured that one would
  470. get a lot of discussion going on the degree to which society is, or should
  471. be responsive to the least of its citizens. Darwinism vs. charity. And
  472. some of that did emerge. But a fair measure of it got siphoned off into
  473. comparisons with ST.
  474. That, however, is really the exception rather than the rule. I very
  475. frequently find myself surprised at the depth of analysis that goes on
  476. here, and the toughtfulness behind it. Quite a few have Gotten It. Some
  477. are still backing up far enough to see the whole picture. And maybe at
  478. times I'm not being sufficiently craftworthy in my work to make those
  479. elements sufficiently clear. But the deeper we go, the more there is to
  480. get, and the more folks *do* seem to be nailing it.
  481. jms
  482. Subject: Re: READ comic 5
  483. Date: 15 Apr 1995 03:33:12 -0400
  484. About the new paper and price...I did the first issue, and while the
  485. pencils were quite good, and the inks okay, when they put the coloring in
  486. the paper just absorbed the hell out of it and it looked like crap, from
  487. my POV. (And I'm not speaking out of school; I said much the same to DC.)
  488. Parts were nice, but other parts...yikes. I felt, strongly, that we
  489. needed a better quality of paper, otherwise a lot of the good work that
  490. was being done was going to be lost. It would cost more, but finally DC
  491. -- which, to be fair, has only been VASTLY supportive of B5, and the comic
  492. and their only intention is to make it as good as possible -- decided to
  493. go with the better quality paper. The main question was whether or not
  494. there was enough of a reader base to warrant it; there was, and they did.
  495. I've overall been quite happy with how the book is being handled.
  496. jms
  497. Subject: Notes from jms
  498. Date: 15 Apr 1995 04:04:58 -0400
  499. Just some quick random thoughts....
  500. For those who've been nudging other folks to try out B5, you may want
  501. to tell them that this coming batch of eps is probably the best time to
  502. dive in. In particular, our second new show (airing the first week of
  503. May) is designed in part to help new viewers coming to the show to catch
  504. up on background. (No, not a clip show, or anything like that...I think
  505. you'll like it.) I also *strongly* recommend that you videotape this
  506. episode, entitled "And Now For a Word." There's something in there just
  507. (or primarily) for the videotapers. Consider this a heads-up from the
  508. inside. You'll know what it is when you sorta see it.)
  509. For those who've asked...yes, I'll be doing another cycle of the B5
  510. comic, a 4-issue arc that'll probably hit the newsstands about the time
  511. our second season (PTEN willing) goes on the air. I've decided that tat
  512. (at) this stage it'll follow a Ranger, bringing us into contact with lots
  513. of different parts of the B5 universe, and may also use it as a kind of
  514. bridge between seasons 2 and 3.
  515. We should know officially about the fate of our third season by the
  516. end of this month. We continue to be cautiously optimistic.
  517. For all the bitching I've done about Creation, I have to say that
  518. I'm very pleased by something that just came through my office for
  519. approval: a B5 jacket with the silhouette of the station embroidered on
  520. the back, and the B5 symbol in front. It's *very* nicely done.
  521. The B5 trading cards, originally to come from Cardz, will now be
  522. coming out from Fleer, and I'm actually quite pleased by that, since I
  523. really like a lot of the work Fleer has done on their comics-related
  524. stuff.
  525. Unrelated to B5: I just picked up the laserdisk for the letterboxed
  526. version of "The Haunting (of Hill House)" and it's amazing. I've never
  527. seen it in that format, only the version altered for conventional TV
  528. aspect ratio. There's stuff going on in the edges of this film that are
  529. brilliant. Just seeing ALL of Hill House, vast against the night, rather
  530. than the one dark clump in the center of the frame, is worth the price of
  531. admission. (An example: just as the lead character stands in the hallway,
  532. thinking aloud that the house seems to be reaching for her, you see in the
  533. letterbox a spider-plant just past her shoulder that does indeed, from the
  534. way its' shot, seem to be grasping at her, something you can't see in the
  535. regular version.) The film is *full* of stuff like this, and I feel as
  536. though I've seen the movie for the first time, even though I've watched
  537. the prior version literally dozens of times. (Yes, along with "Seconds,"
  538. it's one of my favorite films.)
  539. If you have a laserdisk player, pick this one up. It's nifty.
  540. On Monday we begin our last week of filming. We're going for an
  541. eight-day shoot this one time, rather than our usual seven-day shoot,
  542. because of the extraordinary EFX requirements to pull off the finale. It
  543. should be a doozy.
  544. jms
  545. Subject: Re: JMS: alt.tv.ab-fab
  546. Date: 16 Apr 1995 05:08:50 -0400
  547. I think AbFab is sick and twisted and *very* funny....
  548. jms
  549. Subject: Names
  550. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:19:41 -0400
  551. Yes, there are other Narn names with the G' prefix. There's a city,
  552. G'Kamazad, which we hear about in "And Now for a Word," and another
  553. character named G'Sten whom we meet in "The Long, Twilight Struggle,"
  554. among others.
  555. jms
  556. Subject: Station slot changes - one man
  557. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:19:48 -0400
  558. There are no guarantees this side of the grave. But the end of this
  559. story will be told, no matter what. At this moment, things look very good
  560. for year three, and we'll know by month's end. If we continue to add
  561. viewers, as we're doing, there shouldn't be a problem seeing it through.
  562. jms
  563. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: CRASHED Vorlon S
  564. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:21:25 -0400
  565. The picture is just something Ron cobbled together for a magazine
  566. cover; no B5 meaning at all.
  567. jms
  568. Subject: ATTN JMS: Thanks a LOT!
  569. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:48:16 -0400
  570. You're most definitely and profoundly welcome.
  571. jms
  572. Subject: Why B5 races are at the same l
  573. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:48:27 -0400
  574. Except, of course, they're *not* all at the same level. The Minbari
  575. are well ahead of Earth and the Centauri and the Narns; the Narns are
  576. slightly ahead of Earth, and the Centauri are ahead of both; the Vorlons
  577. and the Shadows are both head and shoulders above all the rest; the Drazi
  578. are probably a bit less than Earth.
  579. jms
  580. Subject: Re: So JMS won't spend the mon
  581. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:50:24 -0400
  582. "Who gets the fees and royalties from Babylon 5 licensed
  583. merchandise?"
  584. Warner Bros. This income is cross-collatoralized against costs of
  585. production and distribution in determining net profit. Translation: no
  586. net profit. I do not get a creator's fee from the comic or the novels.
  587. All income goes to Warners, which then puts it against costs.
  588. "Who gets the fees from personal appearances?" The person making
  589. the appearance. I do not get any money from actors' appearances. I do
  590. get small fees for my own apperances, but the problem is that because of
  591. my height, I generally need to fly first. Most cons can afford to pay
  592. for either coach or business. So I make up the difference, which in many
  593. cases means I end up either breaking even, or losing a bit.
  594. "Who gets the royalties from Babylon 5 publications?" Warner Bros.
  595. See above.
  596. "Are these fees and royalties plowed back into the series
  597. production?" No. Warners collects those fees and puts them into an
  598. account marked INCOME. Costs associated with the creation of the show are
  599. marked DEBITS. The job of ALL of the studios is to make sure that, on
  600. paper, the INCOME never gets higher than the DEBITS line.
  601. Re: the production costs...we tell Warners what we think it will cost
  602. to make the show at its best level. That is what they give us. And that
  603. is what we use to make the show.
  604. This is how all TV shows work, particularly at the syndication level.
  605. Hugely rated network shows can use the leverage to re-negotiate and change
  606. the profit formula slightly to redefine "net" and remove such things as
  607. distribution fees and the like. That's not the case with B5.
  608. And now for the one personal observation...you have now hit a new low,
  609. Theron. You can't find anything else to attack, your claims are consistent
  610. bullshit, so now you start throwing around the suspicion that maybe someone
  611. (viz: me) is making huge amounts of profit on B5 and short-shrifting the
  612. production.
  613. Have you no shame at *all*?
  614. jms
  615. Subject: "The One" (Sinclair & Delenn)
  616. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:48:35 -0400
  617. "So who IS the One? Some of the evidence points to Sinclair, but
  618. other bits seem to indicate Delenn. Yet neither seems to fit all the
  619. facts above."
  620. Exactly.
  621. What you have here in your message are two pieces of the puzzle.
  622. You're confounded by the fact that somehow they don't quite seem to fit
  623. into one another. That's because there's one last piece missing in this
  624. part of the picture, which fits in between them. The intent is to put
  625. this piece into clear view in year three, probably between episodes 8 and
  626. 11 approximately. At that point, the question of the One will be fully
  627. answered.
  628. jms
  629. Subject: Actors and why movies/TV are m
  630. Date: 16 Apr 1995 18:48:43 -0400
  631. If only attractive people are picked to become stars, then someone
  632. PLEASE explain Jim Belushi to me.
  633. jms
  634. Subject: ATTN JMS: JMS
  635. Date: 16 Apr 1995 19:05:39 -0400
  636. When out amongst real folk, I just answer to Joe. Actually, I'll
  637. answer to just about anything, but Joe is probably most expedient.
  638. jms
  639. Subject: ATTN JMS: An offer re: B-5 Mod
  640. Date: 18 Apr 1995 02:39:27 -0400
  641. The only way models can be made is if they're licensed through Warner
  642. Bros., so you'll have to go through them on this.
  643. jms
  644. Subject: ATTN JMS:Does Sheridan wear al
  645. Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:01:00 -0400
  646. Yes, Sheridan wears all his medals (absent those too big or showy for
  647. chest-display). As for Andreas, we're putting him up for an Emmy for his
  648. work (also other cast members), and can only hope the Academy recognizes
  649. the fine work he's done. Beyond that, there's nothing the fans can do but
  650. hope....
  651. jms
  652. Subject: ATTN JMS: Re: So JMS won't spe
  653. Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:05:58 -0400
  654. Yes, what I said was what I intended. Do the studios profit from
  655. their series/movies? Of course. But many of the contracts with their
  656. people -- actors, writers, producers, directors -- stipulate that they get
  657. a piece of any net profit. Consequently, the studios do all they can to
  658. make sure that *on paper* it looks as if they've never had a profit.
  659. There have been many cases of stars who, twenty years after their
  660. shows entered syndication, asked where the heck their profit is, and were
  661. told that the show is still in the red. Does anyone believe this? Of
  662. course not. But getting into their books for audits is hard; ask Art
  663. Buchwald.
  664. jms
  665. Subject: Pardon me, but...
  666. Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:06:25 -0400
  667. Yes, that was me, and the info is correct.
  668. jms
  669. Subject: Shelved/Unused scripts
  670. Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:06:57 -0400
  671. Insofar as I can recall, there are no unusued *scripts*. There were
  672. a few abandoned outlines, and some stories that I wanted to get around to
  673. writing, which I decided to shelve for one reason or another long before
  674. they were written down in any form.
  675. jms
  676. Subject: JMS: Bisexuality thread
  677. Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:10:55 -0400
  678. I thought we had adopted "don't ask, don't tell" as our national
  679. policy regarding this issue.
  680. jms
  681. Subject: Ivanova's sex scene
  682. Date: 18 Apr 1995 21:34:45 -0400
  683. Judelon: bingo. When I scripted that scene, that's exactly what was
  684. intended; it goes from the pickup line "come here often? yes, I do" to
  685. "dinner, drinks, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss GRAB!" then asking how
  686. it is for the other person, then "I slept with you the other night, you
  687. didn't call, you didn't write, I think you do it just for spite!"
  688. In a way, the way it's written, it IS sex human style, in that it has
  689. all the elements in, say, about 30 seconds (which is also about right in
  690. some cases). From meeting through bed to breakup....
  691. jms
  692. Subject: JMS: What does it take?
  693. Date: 18 Apr 1995 22:26:51 -0400
  694. A lot of notes are amusing, or interesting, but don't seem to
  695. require a direct response. I have to be fairly stringent in determining
  696. the extent of replying, or I'd be doing nothing else. Basically, if a
  697. thread seems to meander after a while, I'll generally bail out after a
  698. few days.
  699. jms
  700. Subject: sm ... an observation
  701. Date: 20 Apr 1995 03:12:01 -0400
  702. What Londo loves doing is yanking G'Kar's chain. That's all the
  703. line should be taken to imply.
  704. (The headache comes from stuff he doesn't understand.)
  705. jms
  706. Subject: Re: JMS' unusual typing speed
  707. Date: 20 Apr 1995 03:12:30 -0400
  708. I use a standard keyboard, and it's only 120 wpm, not 140, and only
  709. when I'm at fever pitch. I usually coast along at between 90 and 100.
  710. jms
  711. Subject: Re: J*S - the magic initials?
  712. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:49:57 -0400
  713. It would've been very difficult for the lead character in Captain
  714. Power to have my initials since his name was Jonathan Power.
  715. jms
  716. Subject: JMS: What would you have done
  717. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:50:05 -0400
  718. If we'd only had models to work with, then we would've found some way
  719. to make the models work. I think a lot of the difficulty with TV EFX is
  720. just not thinking things through, and doing everything last-minute. We
  721. don't generally have that problem.
  722. One of the options we discussed at the time was shooting model EFX
  723. sequences in a slightly different way. Because I know the story for each
  724. year ahead of time, we could've ganged all the EFX shots together. I.e.,
  725. you know you're going to have battle scenes in episodes 3 and 7 between
  726. the same two races, same kinds of ships. So you double up your cameras
  727. for different angles, and basically shoot both at once, then isolate the
  728. different pieces for either of the two episodes. We also would've had a
  729. second unit shooting 2 days per week as a visual EFX unit.
  730. Either way, it would've been done. We're quite happy that CGI came
  731. along when it did, but we would've found some way to do it regardless.
  732. The history of this series is that of determination despite whatever
  733. obstacles are thrown at us. Once we set our minds to the course, nothing
  734. stops us.
  735. Patience, determination, direction and strength.
  736. jms
  737. Subject: Re: Babylon 5 contest in May!
  738. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:50:13 -0400
  739. I've been told what's going to be offered as main prize(s) (five) for
  740. the B5 contest...and man, lemme tell you, if I could, *I'd* enter. Way
  741. cool.
  742. jms
  743. Subject: Could B5 (the series) be made
  744. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:53:45 -0400
  745. Robert: you're onto something here. Just so you know.
  746. jms
  747. Subject: Re: B5 CD
  748. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:53:55 -0400
  749. Actually, to correct this, the last track in the European version
  750. has more *perussion* and fewer strings, whereas the American version has
  751. more strings and less percussion (this in the longer, reorchestrated
  752. suite of the Requiem for the Line). This was because Chris sent me the
  753. tape with the last track for my approval. I listened to it, and thought
  754. it was great...but for me, what really makes the RftL theme so beautiful
  755. and moving and tragic and powerful are the strings in counterpoint to the
  756. rest of the rhythm. Here they were missing. So I called, and said, "It
  757. really needs the strings." By this point they were already pressing the
  758. European edition, and it was too late to do anything about it. It was
  759. subsequently revised for the American release. So now there are two
  760. versions floating around out there; the percussive version is nice for
  761. the driving aspect of it, it hits you hard in the gut; the string version
  762. hits you in the heart and breaks it.
  763. jms
  764. Subject: ATTN: JMS BIG BANG CON!
  765. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:54:04 -0400
  766. P.S. Yes, I tentatively do plan to be at Chicago ComicCon a week or
  767. so later.
  768. jms
  769. Subject: ATTN: JMS BIG BANG CON!
  770. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:54:14 -0400
  771. Some of our cast members have decided to risk what all believe is a
  772. potentially troublesome situation and go to Big Bang, despite the problems
  773. we've had with them, because it was learned subsequent to the initial
  774. decision not to take part in it that many folks had bought non-refundable
  775. airline tickets, and may not get ticket refunds. They're determined not
  776. to see the fans burned by this. Babylonian Productions, Warners nor I can
  777. endorse or support the con in any way; we've been burned enough. Thus I
  778. can't go. But I must commend our cast for rising above the problems
  779. presented to us at the other end, and risking more problems by taking part.
  780. For their sake, and the fans, it is my hope that this somehow comes
  781. out okay. Suffice to say we're going to be watching *very* carefully.
  782. jms
  783. Subject: another reason jms hates filk
  784. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:54:23 -0400
  785. Dear Mr. Thiesen:
  786. I recommend having someone else start your car for you for the next,
  787. oh, fifteen years or so....
  788. jms
  789. Subject: JMS: Thoughts on Relationships
  790. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:54:35 -0400
  791. I'll have more of a response on this after the end of this season.
  792. Trust me.
  793. jms
  794. Subject: ATTN JMS: Life expectancy
  795. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:54:57 -0400
  796. In "Soul Hunter," Franklin notes that the average human life span is
  797. now about a hundred years. It's quite a bit longer for the other races;
  798. G'Kar is about 70 or more, but is considered mid-range, equal to a human
  799. in early 40s, among Narns. Delenn is in about the same position, equal to
  800. 30s-40s in her terms, but in years a bit older. They are a pretty long
  801. lived people. Centauri aren't quite as long-lived, but they do a bit
  802. better than the Narns. The Vorlons......are.
  803. jms
  804. Subject: appearing in bookstores near y
  805. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:55:08 -0400
  806. Yes, the reporter/writer was given permission to quote liberally from
  807. my prior posts.
  808. jms
  809. Subject: Re: So JMS won't spend the mon
  810. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:55:24 -0400
  811. Kevin: I'm paid a salary per episode produced, a creator's royalty
  812. of a few hundred bucks per ep, and the script fee for any script I write.
  813. By conventional standards, as compared to truly worthwhile jobs, like
  814. teaching, it's a good chunk of change; compared to what you get on a
  815. network show, it's basically chump-change. But I ain't really in this
  816. to make a gazillion bucks; I want to tell this story.
  817. jms
  818. Subject: JMS: "And Now For a Word" Infl
  819. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:55:36 -0400
  820. Where it came from, in part, was oddly enough, a theatrical
  821. exercise.
  822. There's a thing you do in theater training where you're told to talk
  823. about a subject, never use the word "I" ...but in the end wind up telling
  824. us more about *you* than the subject you're speaking about. So I began
  825. to wonder if I could apply this exercise, in a limited way, to an episode
  826. of the show. I can't say more than that without spoiling things, but
  827. suffice to say you learn a lot about all kinds of people, and the way you
  828. learn it says a lot about those involved. It's a *very* subversive and
  829. tricky episode, and I *very* much suggest taping it, so you can go back
  830. and check something out later. You'll know what. If you don't, you'll
  831. kick yourself later.
  832. jms
  833. Subject: Okay, I'll try it
  834. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:55:50 -0400
  835. Watch the eps between the end of April and the last one in the end of
  836. May. If these don't get you, nothing will.
  837. jms
  838. Subject: ATTN JMS: All Alone in the Nig
  839. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:56:22 -0400
  840. Re: Ramirez being "a pretty uncommon name."
  841. Not in LA it isn't.
  842. jms
  843. Subject: Re: So JMS won't spend the mon
  844. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:56:33 -0400
  845. Neil: on actors getting a piece of their merchandise...roll this one
  846. around for a bit...the majority of ST actors (excluding Nimoy, Kelley and
  847. Shatner) have each gotten, roughly, $16,000 as their share of profit
  848. sharing/merchandising over the 25 years of ST history. Ain't life funny?
  849. jms
  850. Subject: ATTN:JMS What if both sides wa
  851. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:56:45 -0400
  852. Both sides can hire their own teeps (telepaths), or jointly hire the
  853. same one, who is adjudged neutral.
  854. jms
  855. Subject: JMS: The Signal?M
  856. Date: 20 Apr 1995 06:56:56 -0400
  857. The pattern was supposed to change a bit more than it did on screen;
  858. call it a bit of interpretation of notes between me and Foundation. It
  859. has not happened again.
  860. jms
  861. Subject: ATTN JMS: Significance of meta
  862. Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:08:37 -0400
  863. The strip indicates branch of military; this is explained in some
  864. detail in "There All the Honor Lies."
  865. jms
  866. Subject: ATTN: JMS Publishing the Arc
  867. Date: 20 Apr 1995 21:31:15 -0400
  868. I just don't know if my notes would be in sufficient shape and
  869. coherence to publish; they jump all over the place over several hundred
  870. years of history, including backstory. We'll see.
  871. jms
  872. Subject: Re: JMS' unusual typing speed
  873. Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:04:11 -0400
  874. Oddly enough, the new keyboard I use at work *does* come with optional
  875. foot controls (which I didn't get). It's a Kinesis ergonomic keyboard,
  876. with the keys in recessed wells. The footpads handle control codes and
  877. other stuff.
  878. jms
  879. Subject: ATTN JMS: Kudos from Old Hicko
  880. Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:04:59 -0400
  881. Many thanks....
  882. jms
  883. Subject: JMS: done writing, then?
  884. Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:05:26 -0400
  885. Bob:
  886. pfthpft........
  887. jms
  888. Subject: Background noise.
  889. Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:16:14 -0400
  890. It was probably the Centauri translation.
  891. jms
  892. Subject: JMS: Recording B5 from TV
  893. Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:18:55 -0400
  894. I really have no idea about the British taping laws; certainly one
  895. should always obey one's local ordinances.
  896. jms
  897. Subject: Re: So JMS won't spend the mon
  898. Date: 20 Apr 1995 22:29:26 -0400
  899. It was always clear that we'd go with either 22, 24 or 25 episodes
  900. per season, so that was accommodated in the early structure.
  901. jms
  902. Subject: ATTN: JMS...San Diego ComicCon
  903. Date: 21 Apr 1995 17:18:55 -0400
  904. I *always* go to San Diego Comic Con...it's my one big trip ever
  905. year.
  906. jms
  907. Subject: ATTN JMS: Buttons?
  908. Date: 21 Apr 1995 17:19:24 -0400
  909. Your friend is correct. While people are treated equally in the EA,
  910. it seems not contradictory to have certain fashion aspects continue on
  911. into the future, such as the reversal of buttons.
  912. jms
  913. Subject: ATTN: JMS INCOME=DEBTS?
  914. Date: 21 Apr 1995 09:24:25 -0400
  915. I do not hold the copyright for B5. The copyright for ALL shows is
  916. in the hands of the studios. Roddenberry, for instance, did not own (and
  917. his estate does not own) Star Trek. Paramount does. Look at any of the
  918. ST merchandise: (c) (year) Paramount Television. Warner Bros./PTEN holds
  919. the copyright for B5.
  920. Thus, if they license it to a comics company, it's between the company
  921. and the "creator" for legal purposes...Warner Bros. Ditto for the novels.
  922. Why do I thus get involved anyway? Because they're based on my show, and
  923. I have a personal interest in making sure they're done right.
  924. And as stated, the goal is to keep income below debits *on paper*,
  925. not in reality.
  926. Because all studios know that if they can show no net income, they
  927. never have to pay profit participation.
  928. jms
  929. Subject: ATTN JMS: Kosh CGI Question
  930. Date: 21 Apr 1995 09:24:35 -0400
  931. What we have in mind for Kosh is going to tax our capabilities to the
  932. limit. It will be a mix of prosthetics, CGI, compositing, wardrobe, an
  933. unusual kind of matte, different exposure techniques, on and on and on;
  934. the visual effects meeting on just this one sequence was the biggest one
  935. we've ever had, drawing in every department (also practical effects,
  936. visual effects, rotoscope, and others). The sequence exists in lots of
  937. different pieces which will take us months to assemble, so I haven't seen
  938. the final product yet, but if we've done this right, it should be a real
  939. doozy.
  940. jms
  941. Subject: ATTN JMS: Kosh CGI Question
  942. Date: 21 Apr 1995 09:24:53 -0400
  943. PS...as an aside on EFX...we constantly slip EFX in and a lot of
  944. folks don't even notice it, because we don't point to it or make a big
  945. deal out of it. It's just *there*. One example of this I mentioned was
  946. the sanctuary in "Coming of Shadows," a virtual set that doesn't exist
  947. in reality.
  948. Here's another one.
  949. In "Soul Mates," and in the main title, you'll see the shot of the
  950. bazaar. It's a wide shot, showing the two levels of the bazaar, with
  951. people walking on either side of the second floor, looking down into the
  952. main area.
  953. Secret revealed: there IS no second floor. Doesn't exist. We made
  954. the second level digitally. To the best of my knowledge (though I might
  955. have missed something), I don't think anyone noticed this as being a CGI/
  956. composite effect. It's just there.
  957. jms
  958. Subject: ATTN: JMS - B5 Renewed says WW
  959. Date: 21 Apr 1995 09:25:07 -0400
  960. Well, it's certainly encouraging, but we still haven't been given the
  961. formal notification about a pickup.
  962. jms
  963. Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS INCOME=DEBTS?
  964. Date: 21 Apr 1995 09:25:16 -0400
  965. You have to understand in all this that the studios agenda is always
  966. to guarantee maximum return for the studio and its stockholders, and the
  967. minimum or nothing for those who create the product. This is the modus
  968. operandi for *all* studios.
  969. Example: I worked on MURDER, SHE WROTE as a writer/producer for two
  970. years. It's a highly-rated top ten network series. The shows air two or
  971. three times on network, then are taken off. Such programs usually go into
  972. syndication, where the studio receives a per-episode fee from the
  973. syndicator. In syndication, you get a straight residual, which for a
  974. third/fourth run (now the first syndicated run) would be a couple/three
  975. grand. Not bad.
  976. But more and more, shows like M,SW are sold to *cable* like USA
  977. Network, where the formula is different. There you, the writer, get a
  978. percentage of the gross price paid per episode by the cable network.
  979. Okay, so far so good, right? Except one day, some smart executive at
  980. Universal realized that the studio is also part owner of USA Network, and
  981. that by selling the episodes at market price, they were charging
  982. themselves an arm and a leg. So why not charge the *bare minimum* to
  983. themselves, and sell the show cheap to their own branch? So a show that
  984. would normally be sold to another cable network for, say, a couple
  985. hundred grand, one time, they turn around and sell instead to a cable
  986. network they own, where it can run indefinitely, and sell it for a couple
  987. hundred dollars...knowing full well that all the talent involved get a
  988. percentage of the purchase fee.
  989. Result: the third/fourth run of one of my M,SW episodes (the first
  990. on USA) which, anywhere else, would bring in 2 or 3 grand brings in a
  991. grand total of....$28.
  992. You know that old joke about the (ethnic group) actress who was so
  993. dumb she slept with the writer? There's a reason...because she'd heard
  994. that in LA, *everyone* screws the writer.
  995. jms
  996. Subject: More Ellison bullshit!
  997. Date: 21 Apr 1995 19:20:24 -0400
  998. So your response to perceived intolerance from Harlan for the
  999. views of others it to hope he's taken off the air, and drops dead.
  1000. Tolerance is a double-edged sword.
  1001. jms
  1002. Subject: regarding Babylon 5's ratings
  1003. Date: 21 Apr 1995 20:01:16 -0400
  1004. Bear in mind you're comparing apples and oranges. The top 20 shows
  1005. in syndication include mainly game shows and talk shows. You have to do
  1006. what the studios do, and separate out the dramas from the rest of the
  1007. pack. And among dramas we do *very* well, particularly in our
  1008. demographics.
  1009. jms
  1010. Subject: ATTN JMS: "Watch it cold"
  1011. Date: 22 Apr 1995 01:30:33 -0400
  1012. If there were three episodes I'd say should be watched as cold as
  1013. possible, I'd say..."In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum," "The Fall of Night,"
  1014. and "The Long, Twilight Struggle." (To some extent, I'd also inclulde
  1015. [include] "Confessions and Lamentations," and "Divided Loyalties.")
  1016. Unfortunately, that's the bulk of the remaining episodes, as opposed
  1017. to CoS, which was a one-off situation. Hell, in some ways, when compared
  1018. with "Struggle," "The Coming of Shadows" is a light comedy in which nothing
  1019. much happens.
  1020. Remember, the deeper we go into the story, the more we're going to
  1021. start cranking things. Each new batch starts off with a lighter, "let's
  1022. get acquainted" episode, but they turn fast. So I don't know what can
  1023. really be done about spoilers and stuff, except to hope for the best.
  1024. "Confessions" isn't per se a wham episode, for instance, but it does
  1025. have some very sharp turns, and it's an extremely intense episode on a
  1026. par with "Believers." It makes no compromises and takes no prisoners, and
  1027. I imagine it'll stir up about as much debate as did "Believers," if not
  1028. more. When we did playback after doing the audio mix a few days ago,
  1029. there wasn't a dry eye in the house.
  1030. So while it isn't a whammer, it's an *emotional* episode, and you
  1031. should come to it as unprepared as possible.
  1032. jms
  1033. Subject: There All The Honor Lies -- SP
  1034. Date: 22 Apr 1995 21:34:15 -0400
  1035. So after I'd read Peter's script, and decided to go with it, he
  1036. asked about Ivanova's line, "This isn't some kind of Deep Space franchise,
  1037. this place is ABOUT something."
  1038. "Are you really going to use that?" he asked.
  1039. "Absolutely," I said. "It's fall-down funny."
  1040. Long pause. "You people really ARE dangerous over there, aren't you?"
  1041. jms
  1042. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Buttons?
  1043. Date: 22 Apr 1995 21:34:35 -0400
  1044. Ah! Yes, the reversal of buttons was a conscious decision. Our
  1045. costume designer asked which way I wanted to go with it, and I said yes,
  1046. let's continue that tradition into the future.
  1047. jms
  1048. Subject: Re: B5 CD
  1049. Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:20:37 -0400
  1050. For track 12, Christopher did a much longer, full-length version of
  1051. The Battle of the Line sequence, adding a lot of depth and letting it play
  1052. out fully. So yes, parts of it echo what's on the disk earlier, but in a
  1053. better, extended-play version. For me, it's one of the best tracks on the
  1054. disk (though I somewhat prefer the American version over the European
  1055. version, due to the strings).
  1056. jms
  1057. Subject: ATTN JMS: SitW SD CGI??
  1058. Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:40:50 -0400
  1059. The San Diego shots are models. We're trying, in different episodes,
  1060. models vs. CGI. Next season, PTEN willing, we're going to try some new
  1061. stuff in planetary models interlocked with CGI for cities and stuff, to
  1062. help us further broaden out the series.
  1063. jms
  1064. Subject: Attn. JMS: Larry DiTillio no l
  1065. Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:42:42 -0400
  1066. The information is essentially correct. This year, I wrote 15 out
  1067. of 22 episodes. Larry provided an additional 3. That leaves 4 freelance
  1068. scripts, and in all four of those cases, I did pretty much all of the
  1069. rewriting on them. Consequently, Larry spent a lot of his time more or
  1070. less cooling his heels. There really wasn't that much for him to do.
  1071. Next season, I'll probably write 17 or 18, so again, there's not really
  1072. enough for a story editor to *do*. A story editor rewrites.
  1073. Also, this is the kind of show where I've set the parameters from day
  1074. one (actually from 1987), and Larry's strength is in world-building and
  1075. determining the direction of a show. There isn't much room for that. So
  1076. overall, it seemed to make sense to free him up to go after shows where he
  1077. can have more influence, do more rewrites and more original scripts; let
  1078. him make his mark. He has great strenths in areas not being utilized,
  1079. particularly as a script doctor. And there are several very interesting
  1080. opportunities out there for him.
  1081. So while we're still allocating a budget for a story editor for next
  1082. season, just in case I get swamped, right now there are no plans for any
  1083. one new in that position. It's just not something that fits into the
  1084. unusual way that B5 operates, we've found. (A story editor also works in
  1085. generating stories or listening to pitches...and, again, those are all
  1086. pretty much worked out ahead of time; all but one of the freelance scripts
  1087. this season were based on assigned premises from me, based on my notes for
  1088. this season). Look for him soon in other projects where he can mold the
  1089. direction in interesting and unique areas.
  1090. jms
  1091. Subject: Re: So JMS won't spend the mon
  1092. Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:47:41 -0400
  1093. Yeah, maybe it wasn't a direct shot this time, but you have to
  1094. understand how Theron works. It works something like this....
  1095. T: "That's a nice haircut."
  1096. S: "Thank you."
  1097. "It shows your profile to best effect."
  1098. "Thank you."
  1099. "Good sculpting on the back."
  1100. "Umm, hmm."
  1101. "So overall, it's a very nice haircut."
  1102. "Thank you."
  1103. "Well, for an axe murderer...."
  1104. After a while, y'know...why wait?
  1105. jms
  1106. Subject: ATTN JMS: Pak'Ma'Ra ! RA! RA!
  1107. Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:54:45 -0400
  1108. The pak'ma'ra are indeed tech scavengers; the tentacles move (we do
  1109. this via remote control), and are used in securing their food and moving
  1110. it into the mouth cavity; their "teeth" are more like beaks in structure;
  1111. their whole culture is based on the notion that they're basically
  1112. superior to everyone else, which is why they eat carrion in part, to
  1113. demonstrate their superiority over all others (they don't eat their own
  1114. kind); they do breathe oxygen, but because of the shape of their mouths,
  1115. cannot form human words, and thus rely on translation devices.
  1116. jms
  1117. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Kosh CGI Questio
  1118. Date: 23 Apr 1995 05:54:57 -0400
  1119. All episodes will be done on time. On the best of days, it takes 52
  1120. days from start of filming to delivery; this one will take a bit longer,
  1121. but still be delivered on time.
  1122. jms
  1123. Subject: att JMS wowee
  1124. Date: 23 Apr 1995 06:16:21 -0400
  1125. "...just saw your picture on the web page. You are a cutie pie!!!"
  1126. Actually, that picture is of Horatio P. Farquar, an explorer who was
  1127. lost while pursuing stories of the Yeti far in the Himalayan mountains,
  1128. and whose picture I used shamelessly for my own purposes. In truth, I am
  1129. two-headed (the other one only goes by the name Bob) and am frequently
  1130. trotted out for the annual Cat Frightening Festival in La Mesa.
  1131. jms
  1132. Subject: Attn JMS: Minbari Questions
  1133. Date: 23 Apr 1995 06:16:36 -0400
  1134. The Minbari do have magneto-gravitational control in limited ways.
  1135. The ships are mainly cool shapes they came up with, in line with their
  1136. particular aesthetic. The Minbari mainly dislike Sheridan for HOW he won
  1137. his battle, as well as for the fact that he did it at all. You'll get
  1138. more on this in the next ep.
  1139. jms
  1140. Subject: ATTN JMS: Significance of "twi
  1141. Date: 23 Apr 1995 06:18:27 -0400
  1142. Yes; work it out as you have, but take it further...we start with a
  1143. point of departure...then after some revelations, examine the geometry of
  1144. shadows, then begin to more forward, a race through dark plces. We come
  1145. toward the long dark, our past a distant star. We carry the motif of a
  1146. world getting dark. The coming of shadows that darkens into the long
  1147. twilight struggle, the last period between day and night...and we end the
  1148. season on...the fall of night.
  1149. jms
  1150. Subject: ATTN: JMS - Influencing the fu
  1151. Date: 23 Apr 1995 06:23:18 -0400
  1152. Nothing more the fans can do now but wait; time will now tell.
  1153. jms
  1154. Subject: ATTN JMS: favorite sf shows
  1155. Date: 23 Apr 1995 18:31:44 -0400
  1156. Unfortunately, because of the demands of making B5, I don't generally
  1157. get to watch a lot of TV. I try to catch the X-Files whenever I can, and
  1158. I'd have to say that's probably my personal favorite of what's out there
  1159. right now. (Fittingly, in my office, I don't have a B5 cup on my desk, I
  1160. have an X-Files mug.) I like MST3K enormously, and we had kind of an
  1161. exchange program going; they sent me a picture personally autographed by
  1162. all the main guys on the show, and we sent them a bunch of B5 caps. They
  1163. mentioned our show recently on their series, and now I have to find some
  1164. way to repay the favor.
  1165. I've only seen a couple of VR5's and am thus far having a hard time
  1166. getting into it. That may change with more viewings. I gave up on Earth 2
  1167. and SeaQuest some time ago, though some folks have been trying to get me
  1168. to take another look on E2, saying it's improved, so I'll try to give it
  1169. another shot when I get some free time.
  1170. My favorite shows generally tend to be ones from a while back, like
  1171. the Prisoner, the original Star Trek, Outer Limits, Thriller, Twilight
  1172. Zone, Blake's 7 and a few others.
  1173. jms
  1174. Subject: JMS: What can a cellist do?
  1175. Date: 23 Apr 1995 18:32:09 -0400
  1176. That's terrific. I've printed it up and will pass it on to Mira when
  1177. I see her next.
  1178. jms
  1179. Subject: Real Life Aliens and B5
  1180. Date: 24 Apr 1995 00:01:53 -0400
  1181. "I feel that B5 is the most likely candidate I have yet seen for the
  1182. clandestine involvement of real aliens."
  1183. Note to myself: increase security.
  1184. jms
  1185. Subject: JMS: Cheers and boos on the la
  1186. Date: 24 Apr 1995 04:31:33 -0400
  1187. "I presume they are selling Londo dolls and the ones used in the show
  1188. were samples."
  1189. Nope. There are no Londo dolls. No G'Kar dolls. No dolls of any
  1190. kind. No B5 clocks or starfuries (minus the MicroMachines) or frisbees or
  1191. postcards or the like. There's *very* little out there.
  1192. Which is how we like it.
  1193. jms
  1194. Subject: Re: Attn. JMS: Teddy Bear<spoi
  1195. Date: 24 Apr 1995 04:31:48 -0400
  1196. Everything featured in the Babylon Emporium was just made up by us.
  1197. Insofar as I know, none of it is real merchandise. (Everyone, including
  1198. the crew, are so starved for B5 stuff that when we finished filming the
  1199. ep, we sold off the stuff, at cost, to those in the crew who wanted them.
  1200. Two guesses who wound up with the Londo and G'Kar dolls....)
  1201. jms
  1202. Subject: ATTN JMS
  1203. Date: 24 Apr 1995 05:04:31 -0400
  1204. On my office wall I have two large areas set aside for quotes, wh ich
  1205. are on 2x3 placards. I switch them in and out depending on my mood and the
  1206. situation. (Up now are "The point of no return. That is the point which
  1207. must be reached." And "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
  1208. All the quotes are about writing in one way or another.)
  1209. Another of them, which will get its turn shortly, is "Writers are not
  1210. necessarily corrupted by money. Rather they are distracted, detoured into
  1211. other venues."
  1212. I don't wanna be distracted. Making TV and telling stories is hard
  1213. enough without adding an extra layer of nonsense. I make a good living.
  1214. I agree to license the stuff I'd personally like to have. But money has
  1215. never really *meant* that much to me, except the freedom to write what I
  1216. want, when I want, whenever I want. When I left Murder, She Wrote to do
  1217. B5, I took a pay cut even though the position was higher. My agent said
  1218. I was nuts. That's fine. Most of the jobs I've had, in the end I've
  1219. walked off, despite people waving money, when I thought that I could no
  1220. longer tell the stories I wanted to tell.
  1221. After a season on CAPTAIN POWER, when I wrote pretty much anything I
  1222. wanted, I got the sense that the second season was going to be more in the
  1223. control of the sponsor. They put a deal on the table for year two; I had
  1224. no other options waiting. Nonetheless, I passed. When I was on Jake and
  1225. the Fatman, the company screwed over my exec producers, to whom I owed a
  1226. great deal of allegiance. When they quit, I also walked, even though this
  1227. was my first major network staff credit, and I had nothing else pending,
  1228. and in fact ended up not working for several months.
  1229. Point being...nothing *really* matters to me but telling a story, and
  1230. being free to tell it the way I want. And if I got into heavily trying to
  1231. exploit every single dime out of B5, approving anything and everything,
  1232. softened where the show was going to help it get lots of spinoffs....it
  1233. wouldn't be the story I want to tell anymore. A good part of what this
  1234. show is, is subversive, and some elements are a bit on the controversial
  1235. side. If I had my eye on the dollar, I'd've never put "Believers" into
  1236. production. Or "Confessions and Lamentations" this season.
  1237. Also, I'm 40. I'll be 41 in July. If B5 goes its full 5 year run,
  1238. I'll be 44/45 at the end. And I will have said pretty much everything I
  1239. want to say in TV. At 45, I'll probably have 20 years in me to write all
  1240. the novels I want to write before the game is called on account of
  1241. darkness. I really don't want to waste that time running a franchise when
  1242. I should be telling stories. You find your story, you get on the stage,
  1243. tell it and get the hell off the stage.
  1244. Finally, I'm leery of money past a certain point. Rod Serling wrote,
  1245. in "The Velvet Alley," "Here's how they get you: they bring you to
  1246. Hollywood, and they pay you vast amounts of money for what you write.
  1247. Slowly, your standard of living begins to rise to where now you NEED that
  1248. income every day to maintain it. And then they threaten to take it away
  1249. from you...and then they own you."
  1250. 'Nuff said.
  1251. jms
  1252. Subject: Spirituality spoilers and spec
  1253. Date: 24 Apr 1995 05:04:53 -0400
  1254. Bob: not bad, not bad....
  1255. jms
  1256. Subject: JMS: Why no action figures?
  1257. Date: 24 Apr 1995 23:41:55 -0400
  1258. I'm not *entirely* opposed to the idea of action figures, but let's
  1259. a) do that a bit down the road, and b) make sure it's done *right*. The
  1260. last thing anyone wants is for this stuff to look crummy. So while we've
  1261. had some inquiries, my sense is to wait for the right time and company,
  1262. rather than just rush out and do this stuff.
  1263. jms
  1264. Subject: ATTN JMS: Posting followups
  1265. Date: 25 Apr 1995 01:13:51 -0400
  1266. I use the GEnie internet gateway. If I try to repeat the lines in a
  1267. message back, using autotype, it skips lines and becomes unintelligible.
  1268. There's no other software solution to this problem.
  1269. jms
  1270. Subject: JMS: Too long between new epis
  1271. Date: 25 Apr 1995 01:14:37 -0400
  1272. I have no control over the rerun schedule. That's a PTEN decision,
  1273. based on wanting new eps to show during sweeps. I'd much rather they
  1274. played 'em straight through...but hey, who listens to me?
  1275. jms
  1276. Subject: ATTN: JMS - Ivanova Questions
  1277. Date: 25 Apr 1995 01:15:15 -0400
  1278. There's a *very* serious Ivanova episode coming up in the remainder
  1279. of this season. And re: the stat badge...gold is for command, silver is
  1280. for support/technical staff, so as liaison between those two, Ivanova's
  1281. stat bar is split.
  1282. jms
  1283. Subject: ATTN JMS: Merchandising...
  1284. Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:45:09 -0400
  1285. The only problem with making a JMS producer doll is that ideally it
  1286. would have to be anatomically correct, and that would cause it to keep
  1287. tipping over on the shelf....
  1288. jms
  1289. Subject: ATTN: JMS BIG BANG CON!
  1290. Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:48:00 -0400
  1291. Anything I write on line can be posted to other services.
  1292. And thanks.
  1293. jms
  1294. Subject: Mamma don't let your babies gr
  1295. Date: 26 Apr 1995 02:46:34 -0400
  1296. Actually, the security insignia isn't a target, it's a gunsight.
  1297. jms
  1298. Subject: JMS: LaserDisc Questions
  1299. Date: 26 Apr 1995 03:53:01 -0400
  1300. Unfortunately, I don't yet know the answer to either of these
  1301. questions, but when and if I do, I'll definitely post them.
  1302. jms
  1303. Subject: JMS: "There All *THE* Honor Li
  1304. Date: 26 Apr 1995 03:51:09 -0400
  1305. I had the same THE thought, but Peter tells me it's a quote, and the
  1306. quote has the THE in it, and by an act of faith I have come to believe
  1307. him.
  1308. jms
  1309. Subject: Re: JMS: Why no action figures
  1310. Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:04:44 -0400
  1311. Captain Power was, certainly, an extreme case, and yes, I walked off
  1312. that show after the first season because I felt the merchandising was
  1313. starting to drive the show, and determine where the stories were going to
  1314. go. That won't happen on this show because I won't *let* it. If that
  1315. makes me a little leery on this stuff...well, that's better than being too
  1316. eager, I suppose.
  1317. jms
  1318. Subject: Re: Thaxton's Return
  1319. Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:31:40 -0400
  1320. 1) There is no requirement to the stations that they take B5 to get
  1321. Kung Fu. This is, quite simply, a lie.
  1322. 2) I have posted the ratings before. They have continued to grow
  1323. during new episodes, and fall back during reruns, as do all shows. The
  1324. statement that the ratings are going down is, quite simply, a lie.
  1325. But that's what Ford does.
  1326. So what else is new?
  1327. jms
  1328. Subject: Acts of Sacrifice - Ivanova
  1329. Date: 26 Apr 1995 23:08:37 -0400
  1330. Where did the idea for Ivanova's sex scene come from? Listen to the
  1331. words...beat for beat, it's an average date, from meeting, dinner, sex, and
  1332. vanishing shortly afterward.
  1333. jms
  1334. Subject: JMS: Season 2 and 3 schedules?
  1335. Date: 26 Apr 1995 23:08:04 -0400
  1336. The last season 2 episodes will be broadcast in July. We're hearing
  1337. that if we're picked up, it's 50/50 as to whether PTEN wants the new year
  1338. 3 episodes to start in November or January.
  1339. jms
  1340. Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS BIG BANG CON!
  1341. Date: 26 Apr 1995 23:06:13 -0400
  1342. Big Bang is a for-profit convention, like Creation, and we've had
  1343. some real problems with them.
  1344. jms
  1345. Subject: Re: ATTN: JMS INCOME=DEBTS?
  1346. Date: 26 Apr 1995 23:12:19 -0400
  1347. Unfortunately, the whole selling-to-yourself strategy is totally
  1348. legal, since each group makes up their own mind what to charge, and there
  1349. really IS no going rate.
  1350. jms
  1351. Subject: Sheridan's distress call (max
  1352. Date: 26 Apr 1995 23:12:47 -0400
  1353. In picking up a distress signal from an Earth warship, the Black Star
  1354. would've swooped in and blown it to bits.
  1355. jms
  1356. Subject: JMS: Alien Night?
  1357. Date: 26 Apr 1995 23:33:07 -0400
  1358. "Alien Night" is something we're kinda keeping under wraps for now,
  1359. until we get a firm production deal.
  1360. jms
  1361. Subject: Re: Mamma don't let your babie
  1362. Date: 26 Apr 1995 23:32:36 -0400
  1363. A gunsight from the POV of the shooter.
  1364. jms
  1365. Subject: Ivanova's character developmen
  1366. Date: 27 Apr 1995 05:20:12 -0400
  1367. The problem is that if you have Ivanova constantly threatening people,
  1368. it gets real old real fast, and after a while loses any real menace or
  1369. threat. So you use it sparingly. Otherwise it swiftly lapses into cliche.
  1370. jms
  1371. Subject: JMS in the UK this weekend
  1372. Date: 27 Apr 1995 05:37:23 -0400
  1373. For those in the UK, Claudia Christian, Peter Jurasik and I will be
  1374. swooping in for Babcom 95, held this weekend (the 29th and 30th) in
  1375. Birmingham at the National Exhibition Center. This will be a more fan
  1376. friendly convention than is usually the case at event-style conventions.
  1377. We hear tickets are going fast, so if you're doing to go, best to
  1378. look into it.
  1379. jms