The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  9. Date: 1 Jan 1995 04:56:39 -0500
  10. Subject: Signal/Noise in B5 and commerc
  11. The signal/noise problem was of particular annoyance during the first
  12. four or five episodes. We deliver on perfect D2 digital masters. We
  13. kept seeing problems on broadcast that weren't there upon delivery. We
  14. did a thorough investigation, and learned that the people contracted with
  15. by PTEN/Warners to handle stuff like closed captioning, and transferring
  16. film, and reformatting for commercials, and adding commercials, were
  17. using ANALOG tape, for starters, and sometimes, we discovered to our
  18. horror, USED STOCK.
  19. It took us some time to fully detail and investigate the situation,
  20. with the result that several people found themselves with new bodily
  21. orifices chewed into their anatomy. By about episode four or five it
  22. began to look substantially better.
  23. jms
  24. Date: 1 Jan 1995 05:03:55 -0500
  25. Subject: Attn JMS Credits cutoff!!!
  26. We're doing all we can on this, but the stations seem to do what
  27. they want.
  28. jms
  29. Date: 1 Jan 1995 19:51:53 -0500
  30. Subject: ATTN: JMS Orson Scott Card/En
  31. Haven't read that one, no.
  32. jms
  33. Date: 1 Jan 1995 19:52:04 -0500
  34. Subject: JMS: Re: B5
  35. What will we do for an encore after the mid-season biggies? Just
  36. what we've been doing all along...just keep cranking up the volume....
  37. jms
  38. Date: 2 Jan 1995 00:21:24 -0500
  39. Subject: JMS! PREVIEW IDEA: Add backsto
  40. Unfortunately, the B5 previews/promos are done in-house by PTEN, and
  41. they jealously guard their authority over them. They'd never let us do
  42. them.
  43. jms
  44. Date: 2 Jan 1995 04:19:06 -0500
  45. Subject: ATTN: JMS
  46. So many questions, so few answers I can give....
  47. 1) In theory, yes, Sheridan should be around for the rest of the arc.
  48. 2) O'Hare is currently doing network guest-starring roles that will
  49. give him broader appeal (for instance, playing a great bad-guy on a coming
  50. episode of the Cosby Mysteries).
  51. 3) Senator Hidoshi is out of office.
  52. 4) Background walla is done by the background walla group.
  53. 5) You won't see Minbar this season, but you will almost certainly
  54. see it the first part of next season. You will, however, see Centauri
  55. Prime this season.
  56. 6) Lots of things will go BOOM soon.
  57. 7) The mess hall food is pretty good.
  58. 8) The D.Duck poster came from Warners, when we arranged (after much
  59. negotiation) to get the rights to use his character. (This is the first
  60. series, apparently, given the rights to do so.)
  61. jms
  62. Date: 2 Jan 1995 21:52:08 -0500
  63. Subject: Origin of word "Vorlon"
  64. ...sounded cool....
  65. jms
  66. Date: 2 Jan 1995 21:52:15 -0500
  67. Subject: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Trekke
  68. First, so there's no error, I appreciate your effort here. But I
  69. still do disagree with your premise that "ST paved the way for B5." You
  70. can "stand by" your feeling as much as you want, but I was the one in the
  71. room with the network and studio execs telling me (and just about everyone
  72. else pitching SF space shows) that there was NO room in the marketplace
  73. for anything along these lines other than ST. Even when PTEN was launching
  74. B5, that was a concern stated by them over and over. There's what one
  75. feels SHOULD be correct, and there's what IS correct. This is the point
  76. where those two conflict.
  77. ST did not "legitimize SF drama for TV." Star Trek legitimizes and
  78. leads to more Star Trek. If people in Hollywood *really* felt the way you
  79. say, why has it taken *25 years* for another serious show like this to get
  80. made (again, leaving out Buck Rogers, which wasn't serious and frankly, to
  81. my mind, was only barely SF).
  82. We had to fight tooth and nail to get this show on the air, to
  83. overcome the ST shadow. We were told, specifically and repeatedly, that
  84. there IS no substantive interest in SF, and that ST isn't SF; ST is ST,
  85. and an interest in ST doesn't generally guarantee any kind of interest in
  86. another SF show. And certainly Paramount has done nothing but throw road
  87. blocks in front of us at every conceivable step of the way.
  88. I understand your feelings, and why you want to believe that your
  89. theory is true. But it simply isn't.
  90. jms
  91. Date: 2 Jan 1995 21:52:23 -0500
  92. Subject: The Hugo Awards: Opinions
  93. Far be it from me to try and influence people's opinions. Well, all
  94. right...six inches away...but I'd tend to agree on the selection of
  95. "Chrysalis" out of all the season one episodes to nominate. I still tend
  96. to think it was the best of the batch (though "Babylon Squared" and "Signs
  97. and Portents" come darned close.) Question, though: are we sure that
  98. "Chrysalis" falls into the eligibility period for nomination? I know
  99. there's a cutoff date at some point, though it's probably the year's end,
  100. so we should be okay.
  101. jms
  102. Date: 3 Jan 1995 01:50:45 -0500
  103. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  104. Battlestar Galactica really isn't applicable to this discussion
  105. because 1) the "arena" under discussion has always been Earth in its future
  106. with humanity as a spacefaring civilization, which comprises 95% of all
  107. written SF, but had not been done on TV since Trek, and 2) Battlestar
  108. was really more of a Star Wars "homage" (he said politely), that has
  109. nothing to do with ST in *any* event.
  110. jms
  111. Date: 3 Jan 1995 04:20:20 -0500
  112. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  113. You may want to convey to these individuals that Stewart also invited
  114. Doug to tea, something he wouldn't have done if he were just fibbing about
  115. his opinion to avoid a faux pas.
  116. In point of fact, we have had generally good relations with MANY
  117. of the actors involved with ST in one form or another. Rene Auberjenois
  118. (I know I just misspelled that, but it's late, nearly 1 a.m., and I'm
  119. too tired to go into the other room to get the right spelling) told both
  120. Mira Furlan, myself, her husband, and just about anyone else in sight
  121. that he's seen B5 and enjoys it immensely. We have had several actors
  122. involved with ST come by the B5 stages to look at the facilities and say
  123. hello. The actor who plays Quark (my apologies to the actor, but his name
  124. has just fallen out of my head) invited Peter Jurasik to a party at his
  125. place to comment on how much he enjoys the show.
  126. There is a small, vocal minority of Star Trek fans who hate B5 because
  127. it commits the ultimate crime for a show in Earth's future in space: it's
  128. not Star Trek. In some ways, I find it kind of amusing, along the lines
  129. of those in the 60s who said you could be a Beatles fan, or a Monkees fan,
  130. but not both. These are people who talk about Infinite Diversity in
  131. Infinite Combinations, but choose not to practice it. They are the same
  132. sorts of people who were Lost in Space fans, and derided and insulted Star
  133. Trek because they considered it a cheap knock-off of LiS. (And yes, there
  134. were loads of critics and viewers who said this, and wrote reviews that
  135. said this, and wrote to fan publications saying it.) They are people who
  136. applaud ST because it was the work of one man with a vision, in its
  137. beginnings...and deride B5 which is a different vision.
  138. What the actors, and the writers involved with Star Trek understand,
  139. that this small, vocal minority of ST fans do not, is that COMPETITION
  140. LEADS TO IMPROVEMENT. These are people who want to see their characters
  141. stretched to new areas, given more to do...writers who want to take
  142. chances in their scripts and be bold...who have for much of the run of ST
  143. been held back by the corporate types who don't *want* changes, who don't
  144. want to take chances...and that's why you have a situation where Riker
  145. stays first officer for *seven years*, which fans complain about, and which
  146. would be the end of ANY officer's career in the real military.
  147. Where I come from, science fiction is the literature of open
  148. mindedness. It *welcomes* new ideas, and new approaches, and different
  149. views of our past, present and future. Are they so insecure with Star
  150. Trek that they must attack Babylon 5?
  151. If they are truly Star Trek fans, then they must know and appreciate
  152. the work done by people like Harlan Ellison and David Gerrold and Dorothy
  153. Fontana and Walter Koenig and, lately, Peter David...people who have not
  154. been well treated by Star Trek of late. We have given them the respect
  155. that is due them, allowing the writers the chance they often did not have,
  156. to experiment and to grow. When Walter Koenig did his first Babylon 5
  157. episode, whenever he came to the table at lunch, those in the cast at the
  158. table would stand until he sat...common when junior officers are being
  159. joined by a senior officer.
  160. Dorothy, and David, and Walter, and Harlan, and others who were
  161. involved with the original Star Trek who have visited the set have said
  162. that they have only seen the atmosphere and warmth of this set on one
  163. other set in nearly thirty years...on the original Star Trek.
  164. Mark Hammil has come by the studio to pay his regards for the show;
  165. Leslie Stevens, co-creator/producer for The Outer Limits made a similar
  166. pilgrimage to say how much he enjoys the show, and how he feels that this
  167. is the future of where SF should be going in television.
  168. When we won the Emmy for Best Visual Effects for the first year in
  169. which we were eligible, it was the *first time* in six years that Star
  170. Trek had lost out. Now with a second Emmy, a Hugo nomination, an award
  171. from the Space Frontier Foundation for Best Vision of the Future, another
  172. award from the Cult TV convention in England (beating out NYPD Blue and
  173. DS9 for best new series)...we are being noticed. Even some reviewers who
  174. at first had the same disdain because we weren't Star Trek have begun to
  175. come around, and see us for what we ARE, not complain about what we are
  176. NOT. (Some complained in the beinning that we were just a rip-off of Star
  177. Trek: DS9, which since we were around in development for 5 years prior to
  178. DS9 is nonsense...and then when they tuned in, and saw that we weren't a
  179. ripoff, turned their noses up because we weren't doing things like they
  180. were done in Star Trek. I received mail and email from people complaining
  181. that we used hand-links when everyone KNEW that the REALITY of it was that
  182. in 200 years we'd be using the chest-pin communicators in Star Trek, "and
  183. every time I see you use this other thing, it breaks the illusion for me."
  184. Long story made short...we're *not* going away. We are telling a
  185. story, and we're going to tell that story until it's finished. If a few
  186. wish to be like the Lost in Space fans who refused to watch Star Trek
  187. when it came on, that's their right. Anyone who finds specific fault in
  188. an episode, and it IS a fault, not "Star Trek wouldn't have done it this
  189. way," that's also terrific. To not like a show simply because it isn't
  190. Star Trek is simple bigotry...and to them I can only say that Roddenberry
  191. would be *disgraced* by that attitude in people claiming to be fans of
  192. hsi work.
  193. jms
  194. Date: 3 Jan 1995 04:51:21 -0500
  195. Subject: Re: ST-TNG vs. B5 fans
  196. "And the ACTORS occupy the same universe as you, me, and jms."
  197. Hrmmm...haven't known many actors, have you?
  198. jms
  199. Subject: ATTN JMS: Novels canon?
  200. Date: 3 Jan 1995 15:50:18 -0500
  201. We're certainly exerting every effort to keep the novels (and the
  202. comic) canon. Ain't easy, but so far it's working.
  203. jms
  204. Subject: JMS: has comic been cancelled?
  205. Date: 3 Jan 1995 16:23:26 -0500
  206. The comic has not been canceled, and is doing very well.
  207. jms
  208. Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart/
  209. Date: 3 Jan 1995 17:52:33 -0500
  210. Got no problem with somebody not liking B5. Not a one. My only
  211. problem is when you have a few people so determined to protect the
  212. integrity of their fictional characters and their allegiance to one show
  213. that they must assume Stewart or someone else is lying, which then
  214. DIMINISHES the person's integrity. It seems to me a little like the old
  215. Vietnam idea of burning the village to save the village. I'm perfectly
  216. happy to let ANYONE not like B5 *on its own terms*. It's only when the
  217. clique mentality sets in that I have a problem with it...and again, this
  218. applies only to a fairly small (but *very* loud) portion of ST fans.
  219. jms
  220. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  221. Date: 3 Jan 1995 18:02:41 -0500
  222. To Laurie Antoniou: many thanks.
  223. jms
  224. Subject: JMS: Season 2 filming
  225. Date: 3 Jan 1995 18:24:14 -0500
  226. We are currently shooting number thirteen, editing number 12, mixing
  227. number 10, doing the EFX on number 11. Seventeen scripts are currently
  228. finished.
  229. jms
  230. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  231. Date: 3 Jan 1995 23:02:12 -0500
  232. Thanks for reminding me; quite correct, Michael O'Hare was invited to
  233. take (and did take) a tour of the set for one of the Star Trek movies; I
  234. guess it would've been Generations. He went, and was well received, and
  235. Shatner said he liked the show. (Though *there*, I suspect, it may have
  236. been more politeness, given the reaction as it was expressed to me. But
  237. I could be wrong.)
  238. jms
  239. Subject: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Trekke
  240. Date: 3 Jan 1995 23:57:02 -0500
  241. "Do you really believe that the First Run Syndication business as it
  242. now stands would be as big as it currently is if ST:TNG had flopped (and
  243. do you honestly believe that Warner would have given PTEN a second
  244. thought, let alone Babylon 5, if TNG hadn't been such a success in First
  245. Run Syndication?" Phillip Sral
  246. A fair question which deserves a fair response. For starters, the
  247. syndie business is *not* "as big" as described in your message. So the
  248. premise is incorrect on the face of it. The majority of new syndicated
  249. drama series introduced in the last couple of years have flopped and have
  250. either already been canceled, or are shortly awaiting same. The only
  251. shows that have shown success at all have been the various Star Trek
  252. incarnations, Baywatch, and now B5. Virtually everything else has
  253. crashed and burned in syndication.
  254. Second, B5 is not part of first run syndication. It is part of the
  255. consortium formed jointly by Warners and a station group which was then
  256. targeted to become a network. (The new official Warners network will
  257. likely supplant and replace PTEN in a few years, after the contracts run
  258. out. How that will affect B5 is anyone's guess.)
  259. The movement into such new networks has nothing to do with the
  260. success OR failure of shows like and including Star Trek. There's this
  261. little thing called the new "fin/syn rules," which recently got changed
  262. drastically. As of the ruling a couple of years ago, networks can now
  263. own more of the product they put on the air. Virtually all of it, in
  264. fact. What does this mean? That CBS can broadcast mainly shows made by
  265. in-house CBS outfits, rather than contracting with, say, Warners or
  266. Universal or other studios.
  267. This frankly scared the hell out of the studios, whose major business
  268. is making TV. So everyone started running around looking for ways to
  269. create venues independent of the networks...i.e., *new* networks, owned
  270. wholly or partly by the studios themselves, who could then create their
  271. OWN monopoly. (Ain't big business wonderful?) Paramount, Universal,
  272. Warner Bros, (and Fox already there)...they're ALL getting into it. That
  273. was the single dominant reason why PTEN was formed. Sheer survival. Same
  274. with the Warners net, Paramount net, all the others.
  275. Networks need programming. All kinds programming. Dozens of shows
  276. were pitched to the PTEN executive committee, including B5. They chose
  277. this out of the rest of the pack *even though they were nervous about the
  278. perception that the market wouldn't sustain more than one such show*.
  279. They picked it for the simple reason that they liked it, and they
  280. believed in what we were going to try and do with the show. Two of our
  281. biggest boosters were the people behind the whole operation, Dick
  282. Robertson and Evan Thompson, who formed PTEN and from the start, really
  283. understood what we wanted to do with B5.
  284. ST was really either a) irrelevant to the process, or b) a hinderance
  285. to the process. I *know* you want to believe otherwise, and I do
  286. understand why, and I wish I could reinforce that because it doesn't
  287. change anything for us one way or another...but it simply didn't happen
  288. that way.
  289. jms
  290. Subject: Re: JMS: Season 2 filming
  291. Date: 4 Jan 1995 00:33:40 -0500
  292. Currently shooting "Hunter, Prey." Then, probably in this order,
  293. "And Now for a Word" (also jms), "Knives" (Larry DiTillio), "There All
  294. The Honor Lies" (Peter David), and then "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum" (jms).
  295. jms
  296. Subject: JMS-Centauri Jump Gates price?
  297. Date: 4 Jan 1995 00:33:50 -0500
  298. We opened up trade relations with them to partially pay for the
  299. time we leased on Centauri jumpgates, and provided other services (of a
  300. benign nature).
  301. jms
  302. Subject: JMS: Personal re: Chris Franke
  303. Date: 5 Jan 1995 02:32:40 -0500
  304. I genuinely have no idea if Chris is still doing "Mantis" or not; I
  305. know they're flailing right now in the ratings, and that they're making a
  306. lot of changes...basically, anything that ain't nailed down. (And anything
  307. that they can pry up ain't nailed down.) If one of those would be a
  308. change in composers, I wouldn't be at all surprised, given that scenario,
  309. but I honestly don't know one way or another; it's not something we tend
  310. to discuss. We talk B5 with Chris, period. I don't think the rest is
  311. any of my damned business.
  312. One rather wishes other people we both could name would adopt a
  313. similar philosophy....
  314. jms
  315. Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart/
  316. Date: 5 Jan 1995 02:30:58 -0500
  317. Re: "...some B5 fans who act the same way," I think there are in
  318. general fewer of them, mainly because we haven't been on 25 years and
  319. become an icon. And I generally discourage it; on CIS in particular, and
  320. here, I've noted that there are good people working hard on ST, but are
  321. being held back from doing all they're capable of doing by the studio's
  322. franchise approach. They should not catch the rap for this; it's unfair.
  323. I should also mention that the most vociferous B5 viewers in terms
  324. of ragging on Trek are generally those who are disenchanted and angry ST
  325. fans who feel they've been let down, and have something now to compare
  326. the other show with. This unhappiness was there a LONG time before B5
  327. ever hit the screens.
  328. jms
  329. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  330. Date: 5 Jan 1995 04:51:51 -0500
  331. My point sustains; getting a science fiction series on the air at
  332. all is mind-bogglingly difficult. Getting it past one season is damned
  333. near impossible. Of the series you named as examples of how SF has a
  334. market in TV -- Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica, V, Salvage, Matthew
  335. Star, Flash, Greatest American Hero -- how many of those made it to or
  336. past a second season? Though I'm kinda fuzzy on Buck (my brain has
  337. mercifully excised most memories pertaining to that one), and Battlestar
  338. had a *revised* show as another season...insofar as I can recall, those
  339. are ALL one-season wonders.
  340. We're still talking apples and oranges. The common question, the
  341. real killer, is "Is the market big enough to sustain two SF shows, and is
  342. there a market for SF at ALL?" *Getting* a show doesn't prove that there
  343. is a market for SF; it only proves that somebody's going to try it again
  344. to find out. If a show doesn't last, dies quickly, then that proves
  345. the market's dead.
  346. This is one of the blind spots in TV logic which pertains mainly to
  347. the two groups you mention, SF and westerns. If a cop show goes on and
  348. flops, nobody says there's no market for cop shows; *that* show failed.
  349. If an SF series fails, the interpretation is that there's no market for
  350. SF. Also, in general, hollywood perceives all SF as more or less the
  351. same; it doesn't take into consideration, if an SF series dies, if it was
  352. a GOOD SF series or a BAD SF series.
  353. Nowhere was this more true than with the V series (not the mini, the
  354. Kenneth Johnson stuff, which was great), where one of the producers told
  355. me, "As long as we have aliens and space ships and ray guns, we'll get
  356. the SF audience GUARANTEED; it's the mainstream we have to work at."
  357. To understand this whole area, you have to stop thinking like a
  358. viewer and start thinking like a network programming exec. (Start by
  359. lowering your IQ about 15 points.) If a series runs only 1-2 years and
  360. fails, everybody loses; the studio and network will never recoup the
  361. expenses of production because these days you generally need 80-100
  362. episodes of a series to syndicate it. Except for bargain-basement stuff
  363. like minimal fees for SciFi Channel reruns, you're dead. You're out
  364. MILLIONS of dollars.
  365. *NO AMERICAN SCIENCE FICTION SERIES OTHER THAN STAR TREK HAS GONE
  366. ON FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS SINCE LOST IN SPACE*. We're talking here
  367. twenty-four YEARS of failure (from a network/studio financial point of
  368. view). This does not exactly encourage them to think there's much of a
  369. market. Throw Logan's Run and Amazing Stories and the new Twilight Zone
  370. into the mix.
  371. By entering its 2nd year, Babylon 5 has already beaten the odds. If
  372. we get year three (oh, yeah, and Time Trax also didn't make it), then as
  373. far as I know, we'll be the first nominally-hard SF series other than
  374. Trek to do it in nearly a quarter-century. (I'm excluding X-Files from
  375. this only because I don't quite think it fits as science fiction; I'm not
  376. quite sure what to classify it as other than Really Weird Shit, and a
  377. truly *nifty* TV series. I love it.)
  378. There are an *awful* lot of studio and network people watching us
  379. very closely; if we can be the first to break the curse, proving that
  380. there is a market for SF outside Star Trek that can sustain long enough
  381. for the studio to make back its money, I think you'll finally begin to see
  382. a lot more of it...and frankly, I can't wait; the more competition, the
  383. more SF, the better.
  384. jms
  385. Subject: Cortez- Awesome Ship Name!
  386. Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:57:00 -0500
  387. BTW, just to note a little something you might not notice in the
  388. show...we've adopted the tradition of putting the symbol for a given ship
  389. onto the bar in Earhart's, as many real contemporary officers' clubs and
  390. airforce/naval base clubs put the logos or markings of big planes or ships
  391. that come through there. The Cortez symbol is the most visible among the
  392. various emblems you can see in a shot of the bar in "A Race Through Dark
  393. Places." It comes at the moment we follow *another* old military tradition.
  394. jms
  395. Subject: JMS: Syndication (Was: Re: JMS
  396. Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:57:08 -0500
  397. Your assessment of the situation is more or less correct; it was
  398. the Paramount Theaters chain that was eventually divested from Paramount
  399. proper, since the government decided that it constituted a monopoly and
  400. couldn't be allowed to continue. (Ironically, it was this divestment
  401. that, having made Paramount Theaters an independent operation, later helped
  402. ABC come into reality, as they were able to invest in the fledgling
  403. network during a time it was struggling. This was viewed as a smart move
  404. by many, since common wisdom said that this new TV thing was never going
  405. to take off in people's homes, due to the expense in running land-lines to
  406. individual homes, broadcast being marginal technology then. They figured
  407. there would be TV Theaters, where you could come and pay and see TV shows,
  408. boxing, sporting events, name it. Universal spent major bucks on this,
  409. and even showed a major boxing event just this way as a test. And now,
  410. of course, with satellites, and pay TV, and people gathering at sports bars
  411. to watch pricey events, we've come full circle.)
  412. (Why do I *know* all this stuff, when I can't retain what I ate for
  413. lunch yesterday?)
  414. Because studios had a monopoly, yes, they could force less obviously
  415. commercial films down the throats of theaters. That changed with the
  416. new rules. TV now, though, won't go through the same cycle, I think,
  417. because a) none of the networks are stupid enough to become total
  418. monopolies and invite the FCC in, and b) TV as a mass medium will always
  419. be more easily targeted by special interest groups.
  420. jms
  421. Subject: JMS: Language on Bazaar sign i
  422. Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:57:17 -0500
  423. I'll have to look at it again, but I'm reasonably certain that the
  424. second line in the bazaar sign is Centauri.
  425. jms
  426. Subject: JMS:Question on Production Sch
  427. Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:58:53 -0500
  428. We don't shoot in lots of 6 or 12; we shoot 22 episodes straight
  429. through. The order in which they are run, and the pauses in between, do
  430. not in ANY way reflect the time period in which they are made. We shoot
  431. straight through, with pauses for Christmas break, and to give our crew
  432. and cast a one-week hiatus on either side (usually between episodes 8
  433. and 9, and episodes 15 and 16), which helps keep them from burning out.
  434. You really have to shoot straight through, because of the vast
  435. amounts of money required to rent equipment, pay salaries for crew and
  436. cast, pay staff and other areas. Also, under Screen Actors Guild rules,
  437. if you hire someone for, say, 13 episodes, you must use them within a
  438. particular span of time. If you don't, you must pay them the balance of
  439. committed episodes by the end of that period. If you broke filming up
  440. as you suggest, you'd be in deep hock to your cast.
  441. And you really can't separate out SFX from shooting live-action;
  442. often you need to have the actors work with the effects in composite
  443. shots, and sometimes you need the effects to play on monitors visible on
  444. camera when you're shooting. All divisions are working at the same
  445. time, straight through. You need to have effects people around frequently
  446. while shooting; to make two separate sequences means you double the time
  447. period you have to pay your effects people.
  448. Here is the process of making B5 in metaphor...not only in terms of
  449. each season's production, but the history of this show overall.
  450. You hitch yourself to the front of a train. And you begin pulling.
  451. (In this case, I began pulling in 1987, but for purposes of the current
  452. discussion make that the start of each season.) Slowly, painfully, the
  453. train moves an inch. Then another. Gradually, over time, it begins
  454. picking up speed. For one brief instant there is an allowable moment of
  455. joy when both you and the train are going at the same, comfortable speed.
  456. Then it starts gaining on you, and you have to start walking faster, with
  457. the train bumping your heels, until finally you're running flat out,
  458. because you know that if you so much as stumble once, the train will roll
  459. right over you.
  460. Then the season ends, you get to catch your breath...and start it all
  461. over again.
  462. jms
  463. Subject: ATTN JMS: Future Quest
  464. Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:59:03 -0500
  465. Basically, they asked if they could use our sets for a PBS program,
  466. and we said sure. Not much more to it than that; I think we allowed them
  467. the use of our stages without rental charge, since it's a worthy cause.
  468. They were allowed to choose which shots to use. I wasn't in the show
  469. because I wasn't asked to be. Doesn't matter either way; ain't doing this
  470. to get my mug on TeeVee. The lawsuits over nationally induced cardiac
  471. infarction ALONE would kill our budget....
  472. jms
  473. Subject: Re: JMS on Patrick Stewart/
  474. Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:59:11 -0500
  475. To Ted...unfortunately, syndication does not help gurantee any show's
  476. success, even requiring fewer ratings points. Most of the new dramas
  477. introduced in the last year or so in syndication have fallen by the wayside
  478. and have either been canceled, or are awaiting cancellation.
  479. jms
  480. Subject: Re: JMS:Question on Production
  481. Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:59:19 -0500
  482. RE: "a TV episode usually takes 10-16 days to make," (Kokko), not
  483. quite correct. We do the actual on-stage shooting in 7 days. (Most shows
  484. are shot anywhere from 6-9 days per episode.) Then it takes another week
  485. or so to edit, then the producers re-edit, then you spot the show for
  486. visual EFX and music, CGI is working, you mix the episode...the actual
  487. time required to physically make an episode once you begin principal
  488. photography is closer to 6-8 weeks.
  489. jms
  490. Subject: JMS: a filming question
  491. Date: 7 Jan 1995 03:20:53 -0500
  492. As I recall, Mira was not in prosthetics at the time, and was out of
  493. camera range even for when the shot gets shown in expanded letterbox form.
  494. jms
  495. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  496. Date: 7 Jan 1995 03:22:02 -0500
  497. Just a note of clarification on the notice that TV frigntened the
  498. movie studios (that should be "frightened")...yes and no. In the beginning
  499. it mainly just frightened radio; Fred Allen (famous for the quote "TV is
  500. called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done") used to sport
  501. a button stating Stamp Out TV. The studios *loved* TV in the beginning;
  502. at the time when TV began to come out, the studios were suffering their
  503. worst years since the Great Depression. Universal Studios and Warner
  504. Bros. practically shut down altogether. The number of films being made
  505. was virtually nil. But they still had all these actors and writers and
  506. directors under contract, chewing up vast amounts of money at a time when
  507. the studios had zip coming in. So they quickly turned many of these
  508. people over toward making TV shows; this is one reason why so many of the
  509. early TV anthology programs had big-name actors...the studios were burning
  510. off expensive contractual obligations.
  511. Also, I'd suggest that serious SF was done prior to Forbidden Planet,
  512. including but not limited to Earth Vs. the Flying Saucers, The Day the
  513. Earth Stood Still (still one of the finest such films ever made) and many
  514. others.
  515. jms
  516. Subject: Re:
  517. Date: 8 Jan 1995 00:11:19 -0500
  518. In addition to the other good reasons for using Jupiter's moons
  519. that Nyrath stated, there's also the added element of energy (it's near
  520. Jupiter itself), and a base placed off Io would be somewhat more difficult
  521. to target from afar given the massive energy output from Jupiter, which
  522. would help mask things a bit.
  523. jms
  524. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  525. Date: 8 Jan 1995 00:14:07 -0500
  526. The attribution to Ernie Kovacs of the "TV is a medium" line is
  527. incorrect. Ernie loved TV. Fred Allen hated it with a passion.
  528. jms
  529. Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart/B
  530. Date: 8 Jan 1995 00:14:20 -0500
  531. On the other hand, if one follows the logic that a ship traveling is
  532. more likely to encounter danger than a stationary vessel, then one must
  533. now make the leap in logic that a bus traveling from New Jersey to
  534. Connecticut will have more dangerous incidents in 24 hours than New York
  535. City.
  536. Bear in mind the crucial difference here...the Enterprise has maybe
  537. seven hundred, a thousand or so members of the same service, chosen for
  538. compatibility. Babylon 5 has roughly two hundred and fifty thousand
  539. humans and aliens on board at any given moment, many from races where
  540. there is conflict between them. I think the latter is bound to produce
  541. more and broader-based danger than the other.
  542. jms
  543. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  544. Date: 8 Jan 1995 01:34:32 -0500
  545. This to Frank Springall...we weren't *talking* about shows from
  546. other countries. We were addressing American-produced shows. Yes, we
  547. could drag Dr. Who in here, but that's not really the *point*. Doesn't
  548. mean that nothing produced outside the US is "interesting." Obviously it
  549. is. But that's simply not relevant to our discussion of the American
  550. television series, and how studios and networks *here* view the genre.
  551. jms
  552. Subject: ATTN: JMS Realistic Timescale
  553. Date: 8 Jan 1995 04:46:36 -0500
  554. I took a fairly conservative timeline; as was mentioned in "The Long
  555. Dark," as late as 2150 we were mainly confined to our own solar system,
  556. using sub-light cryogenic exploration ships on one-way missions to go
  557. further. We got to leap-frog several hundred years of technology when we
  558. met the Centauri in 2151, who let us lease time on their jumpgates, and
  559. sold us the tech to make and maintain our own. Had the Centauri or some
  560. other species not tripped over us, I think we'd still be driving around
  561. our own solar system for the most part by 2200, with maybe an excursion
  562. or two to our nearest star.
  563. The space program is currently logjammed, and if it doesn't get
  564. cleared up soon, we're going to be left in the dust, literally as well as
  565. figuratively. We have to get NASA off its image of two guys standing
  566. on a Martian hill planting a flag to communities of people working and
  567. living in space.
  568. The space shuttle was primarily designed as part of a link; space
  569. shuttle builds space station; space station is hub for mars mission and
  570. lunar colony; lunar colony is hub for more mars missions and mars
  571. colony. But we lost that thread, and now it's been relegated to being a
  572. high-tech ferry service.
  573. jms
  574. Subject: JMS: Your views on trading cop
  575. Date: 10 Jan 1995 01:46:24 -0500
  576. I agree with the policy of "Don't ask, don't tell."
  577. jms
  578. Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
  579. Date: 10 Jan 1995 23:53:20 -0500
  580. Actually, there are a lot of resonances between the process of getting
  581. B5 on the air and getting the original Trek on. Both did considerable
  582. recasting after their pilots; both saw the series a full year after the
  583. first pilot (we kinda considered ep 1 of year 1 our second pilot); Trek
  584. ran into difficulty getting sold because of Lost in Space, and we had a
  585. hard time getting sold because of ST; when it went on the air, Star Trek
  586. was slammed by critics as being low-rent, cheesy, suited for saturday
  587. morning kiddie shows and nothing more than an attempt to cash in on Lost
  588. in Space, just as we got nailed by critics and charged with trying to cash
  589. in on ST; Trek was Roddenberry's singular vision, and B5 is another very
  590. singular vision, neither show a "committee" operation. There are more,
  591. but I think the point is there.
  592. jms
  593. Subject: Of Hair And Bone
  594. Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:21:55 -0500
  595. When Delenn's structure changed, the epidermal layer on the head
  596. grew thinner; there is now a gap between the skin, and the bone which
  597. has grown out. Hair can be draped through it, or laid over it.
  598. jms
  599. Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart
  600. Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:26:40 -0500
  601. BTW, just as a switch-back to the original thread here...might
  602. intest folks to know that Michael O'Hare was invited by some of Patrick's
  603. Fan Club Members to see "A Christmas Carol," Stewart's reading, went
  604. backstage, met Patrick...and was subsequently invited to make an
  605. appearance at a local meeting of Stewart's fan club, where he was invited
  606. to come up on stage by Stewart, where the two shook hands and lots of
  607. photos were taken.
  608. (At a recent convention, btw, Michael and Avery Brooks hung out
  609. together, had drinks, and discussed the hassles of being the commander
  610. of a space station....)
  611. jms
  612. Subject: JMS: Starfury as logo
  613. Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:26:51 -0500
  614. If we ever need a team name, I'll try to remember this....
  615. jms
  616. Subject: Technomage Symbol
  617. Date: 11 Jan 1995 11:25:48 -0500
  618. No, actually, the technomage symbol (all of them, actually, including
  619. the ones on the wall) are all derivations, specifically altered, of old
  620. runes and the like. In some cases, we removed words and inserted
  621. mathematical symbols. The fiery symbol is all one piece, and is also an
  622. old rune.
  623. jms
  624. Subject: JMS: Has season 2 been sold to
  625. Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:20:13 -0500
  626. I haven't got a clue.
  627. jms
  628. Subject: ATTN JMS: Actor in Eyes?
  629. Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:06 -0500
  630. Don't recall off hand the name of the bartender, but it definitely
  631. wasn't Tim Choate.
  632. jms
  633. Subject: Re: Arc. Season II. Big Pict
  634. Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:19 -0500
  635. We could not film anything extensive with Michael because we don't
  636. shoot on the Warners lot, where there are facilities available. We went
  637. our separate ways around late April/early May or so, after we had stopped
  638. shooting. We're a small operation; when we make the series, we rent our
  639. equipment from Panavision, our lights from other places, sound equipment,
  640. some props...anything we don't rent goes into storage. Our entire camera
  641. crew -- ALL of them -- were off doing another project.
  642. I understand your feelings, but there are certain realities we have
  643. to work with, and if the cast is gone off either on vacation, out of the
  644. country, or on other projects (as all of them were), all of our crew is
  645. gone, and all of our equipment is gone, it's kinda hard to oblige your
  646. request to do scenes with these characters. We had none of this back in
  647. our hands until we began shooting again in August, by which time Michael
  648. had long been in New York pursuing other projects.
  649. jms
  650. Subject: B5 on WB Network?
  651. Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:34 -0500
  652. I would not count on B5 ending up on the Warners network; the two are
  653. very competitive (WB vs. PTEN), and WB is trying to form its own identity.
  654. And the ratings for B5 place it generally third in first-run dramatic
  655. syndication.
  656. jms
  657. Subject: Attn: JMS. counterculture on B
  658. Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:46 -0500
  659. By 2259 the "counterculture" as we understand it is absolutely old
  660. fashioned and retrograde. Seems like everybody's working to get In, not
  661. be Out. Sort of an extreme gingrichification effect....
  662. jms
  663. Subject: ATTN: JMS - Is there only one
  664. Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:38:22 -0500
  665. The EA is the only government for planetary decisions; a few don't
  666. choose to subscribe back home, but then they're entirely cut out of from
  667. benefitting from star travel and other EA areas.
  668. jms
  669. Subject: JMS:Season 3
  670. Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:38:34 -0500
  671. We'll probably get official word yes/no come April/May, though we
  672. will probably have some unofficial hints come February/March.
  673. jms
  674. Subject: Diversity of B5 populace
  675. Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:30:20 -0500
  676. Babylon 5 is not like your local community, with as wide-ranging a
  677. bunch of residents, including children. It's more like an airport, and you
  678. don't generally see a lot of kids living at airports (unless you live in a
  679. community much different from mine). There are two kinds of people in
  680. general at B5...those who live and work at the station (security guards,
  681. maintenance, dockworkers, other support staf) and people passing through
  682. en route to other places, on stop-over. It's a place where you come to do
  683. business deals, staying over for a day or two, and then leaving. You
  684. wouldn't tend to bring your kids to something like that, and families
  685. passing through go right from one ship to another, usually in a hurry to
  686. make their flight.
  687. And we've had plenty of older characters, so your sweepin
  688. generalization is inaccurate, as are most sweeping generalizations. From
  689. June Lockhart to Michael Ansara to Walter Koenig to Jane Carr to many
  690. others, we've gone beyond the 35-49 age range you cite. We've also had
  691. many ethnic groups, and featured them; in fact, virtually ALL of the
  692. relationships (with I think one exception) have so far been from different
  693. ethnic backgrounds (Sinclair and Sakai, Talia Winters and Jason Ironheart,
  694. Dr. Franklin and Lockhart's daughter). We've used asian actors (doctors
  695. in medlab, the scientist in "Voice," Taro Isogi in "Spider," Sakai),
  696. hispanic actors (in "By Any Means," Dr. Maya Hernandez in "Believers,"
  697. Wanda DeJesus coming up in "Hunter, Prey"), and a lot of african american
  698. actors. We also populate all background shots with a wide mix of ethnic
  699. backgrounds.
  700. In short, we're already *doing* it. And we will continue to do more
  701. of it. (Why doesn't Ivanova have a Russian accent? Because she was raised
  702. overseas, and went to schools outside Russia, something we'll learn in a
  703. few episodes.)
  704. jms
  705. Subject: ATTN JMS: Re: B5 on WB Network
  706. Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:54:34 -0500
  707. B5 dropped a bit in the recent ratings you mention because they're
  708. a) our reruns, and b) the Chrismas period, during which everything falls
  709. off.
  710. jms
  711. Subject: ATTN JMS: Spec script guidelin
  712. Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:54:56 -0500
  713. The spec script question is currently moot because we're full-up at
  714. this time.
  715. jms
  716. Subject: JMS: Costume Questions...
  717. Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:28:00 -0500
  718. Argh; just sent my reply here to the wrong thread (read the Diversity
  719. in B5 thread). Brief version: leather all around, red piping to read
  720. better on camera, cleaner cuffs. The other reply is more detailed.
  721. jms
  722. Subject: Re: Diversity of B5 populace
  723. Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:30:02 -0500
  724. My original reply somehow got bumped back; the panels on the uniforms
  725. are always leather. Correct on the red piping and other changes; one of
  726. the problems with last season's uniforms was that they kinda blurred on
  727. camera, and the details went away. The piping helps the details to pop
  728. a bit better on camera. The cuffs were changed because in the old version,
  729. the leather cuffs caused the cuffs to gather, and never looked clean or
  730. crisp, which a real uniform would. So we changed it. I've been told what
  731. the rest of the uniforms are made of, but for the life of me can't recall
  732. just now.
  733. jms
  734. Subject: Re: Attn: JMS. counterculture
  735. Date: 13 Jan 1995 01:51:25 -0500
  736. This to Katherine Teague...you're among the first to pick up on a
  737. deliberate writer's choice in the writing of the series. In looking toward
  738. the period of B5, I tried to construct a society that had to come together
  739. on a planetary scale to fight a war for simple survival. My thinking was,
  740. "Okay, let's assume that formality has come back into vogue; clothes tend
  741. not to be revealing, lines are more streamlined or severe, people address
  742. each other or refer to each other formally ("Mr. Isogi," "Ms. Winters," and
  743. so on).
  744. I suppose a conservative could derive some satisfaction from this
  745. choice...though to quote Mephistophilis in "Faustus"......"Aye, think so
  746. still, 'till experience change thy mind."
  747. jms
  748. Subject: Season 3
  749. Date: 13 Jan 1995 20:58:23 -0500
  750. We'll know on a pickup come about April.
  751. jms
  752. Subject: JMS: Why only one telepath?
  753. Date: 13 Jan 1995 21:21:35 -0500
  754. Actually, since there aren't that many telepaths around, they cost a
  755. LOT to lease. There probably should be more than one on B5, but the Corps
  756. hasn't gotten around to sending anybody else yet...so she's appropriately
  757. frazzled a lot of the time.
  758. Humans rarely do things the way they should, logically....
  759. jms
  760. Subject: I need to know if this is true
  761. Date: 13 Jan 1995 21:19:52 -0500
  762. Certainly, we're all big fans of Mark's work (currently enjoying him
  763. in Wing Commander 3), and should an opportunity come along, and a role
  764. good enough, we'd love to work with him. But at this moment, nothing is
  765. set.
  766. jms
  767. Subject: ATTN:JMS Stupid idea about KO
  768. Date: 14 Jan 1995 01:55:06 -0500
  769. Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope.
  770. jms
  771. Subject: Enjoying B5 is enjoying Life
  772. Date: 14 Jan 1995 01:58:39 -0500
  773. Thanks; and funny thing is, having seen the next batch of episodes
  774. as many as 20 times in the process of putting them together, I'm still as
  775. excited about them now as in the beginning.
  776. jms
  777. Subject: B5 & ZIMA
  778. Date: 14 Jan 1995 02:24:12 -0500
  779. There's no Zima on the show in BG because we just did it for funsies,
  780. and now having done it, it's over.
  781. jms
  782. Subject: Release of series onto Laser d
  783. Date: 15 Jan 1995 00:56:42 -0500
  784. We do hope to have the (widescreen) disks out by summer or fall, once
  785. we finish re-transferring all the film stock back to its original format.
  786. The pilot can't be released in a producers' cut since it never existed in
  787. film, only in computer-image form on the Avid editing system. To do the
  788. full film would require completely re-editing the film and re-scoring, and
  789. we don't have the resources or budget for that.
  790. jms
  791. Subject: Starfuries on patrol.
  792. Date: 15 Jan 1995 00:56:32 -0500
  793. The starfuries were deployed from lunar bases, also from carriers
  794. that dropped everything they had.
  795. Since this was a last-ditch effort, there was no point in keeping
  796. reserve starfuries on-board, and the big ships still made huge targets.
  797. This was almost entirely an offensive maneuver, not defensive. You pop
  798. everything you've got, figuring that probably nobody will make it back.
  799. jms
  800. Subject: ATT JMS: Instantaneous Communi
  801. Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:31:30 -0500
  802. Tachyon-based transmission systems.
  803. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
  804. jms
  805. Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart
  806. Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:42:38 -0500
  807. To the best of my knowledge, NONE of the ST actors have any problem
  808. with any of the B5 actors, and vice-versa. Much as some divisive fan
  809. would, as you say, like their characters to reflect their own feelings,
  810. the reality simply isn't there.
  811. jms
  812. Subject: Murder, He Wrote? (Re JMS)
  813. Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:46:59 -0500
  814. Correct; I was a writer/producer on MURDER, SHE WROTE for two years,
  815. and wrote something like 10-12 episodes (I don't remember exac
  816. offhand). For the last 2 weeks or so, USA network has been hitting the
  817. seasons I worked on, so my name has been there a lot lately.
  818. jms
  819. Subject: Re: B5 & ZIMA
  820. Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:47:14 -0500
  821. Tagging this here because I don't know where else to tag it...I just
  822. got a GEnie note saying that approximately 100 letters from the Internet
  823. gateway never got to me; many are just rec-arts, but there's also on the
  824. list headers from a4jinna, roland@festival, TrboTurtle, dd36+, northrup@
  825. chuma, anewton, brauchfu, and others. Just a warning...stuff does get
  826. munched sometimes.
  827. jms
  828. Subject: Three Edged?
  829. Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:50:13 -0500
  830. The metaphor functions on several levels: 1) in any argument, there
  831. is your side, and the other side, but if you're ever going to get past
  832. that and find agreement, or understanding, you must be open to a third
  833. idea, a compromise or intercession. 2) a real three-bladed or three-edged
  834. sword creates a wound that does not close again; knowledge, once received,
  835. and understood, is permanent and changes you forever.
  836. jms
  837. Subject: JMS: Do Doctors Still Speciali
  838. Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:56:33 -0500
  839. Negative; your assumption is incorrect. Dr. Franklin is chief of
  840. staff of the medlab facility, and has been introduced as such. We have
  841. seen many other doctors, from Dr. Maya Hernandez to the asian doctor
  842. brought in to help save Garibaldi in "Chrysalis." There are probably
  843. about 100-150 doctors on B5, and we'll be showing more of them as we go
  844. on in the show.
  845. jms
  846. Subject: JMS: Jovian moons
  847. Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:54:53 -0500
  848. I think we'll probably get around to showing more of the Jovian
  849. moons one of these days.
  850. We're also taking advantage of some of the recent Hubble photographs
  851. to scan them and use them as backgrounds in some far-space shots; there's
  852. one in "The Coming of Shadows," for instance. Real space is *very* nice
  853. looking in places.
  854. jms
  855. Subject: Attn JMS -- "Producer's cut" S
  856. Date: 15 Jan 1995 20:23:49 -0500
  857. The various drafts of the script have all the missing scenes, and may
  858. in time become available directly through Babylonian Productions along
  859. with other scripts. The computer images are too grainy to ever be used
  860. in any kind of laserdisk or tape, very low-res.
  861. The whole issue of the pilot still rankles me, on a personal level.
  862. I was still fairly new to executive producing, and was more prone to just
  863. accept the word of the director or the editor that this was as good as the
  864. cut would get, this was how it should stay. I didn't speak up on some of
  865. my concerns, didn't just go in and re-edit the whole damned thing the way
  866. I felt I should have. It was my error, and there's no one else to blame
  867. for it.
  868. I've learned since to trust my instincts. So when John Copeland and
  869. I go in to edit the episodes, we edit these things so tight they scream.
  870. In retrospect, I probably could've fit in about 18 minutes of the 20
  871. or so minutes we ended up cutting, by judicious editing, line-cutting,
  872. and just picking up the pace of the thing in every scene. It's one of
  873. those, "If I knew then what I know now..." situations.
  874. If we had the budget to re-edit the damned thing, which alas we
  875. don't, I can assure you it would be a VERY different-looking movie.
  876. My fault. Nobody else's.
  877. jms
  878. Subject: Re: Murder, He Wrote? (Re JMS)
  879. Date: 15 Jan 1995 22:25:11 -0500
  880. We had one of the M,SW directors over recently, and he mentioned that
  881. Angela, as with you, considers "The Committee" to be the best episode of
  882. the series. I'm inclined to agree that it was probably one of the best
  883. scripts I did for the show, though I'm also particular toward "The Wind
  884. Around the Tower" and parts of "Incident in Lot 7."
  885. jms
  886. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  887. Date: 15 Jan 1995 22:23:25 -0500
  888. "Not to cast aspersions on the physique of JMS, but he's not the
  889. youngest buck in the forest, forest, nor the sveltest. What if he dies?"
  890. HEY! I'll have you know I'm just 40 years old, and at 6'5" I'm maybe
  891. ten pounds more than I should be. Granted it all seems to have settled in
  892. one or two places, but I attribute that to the gravitational influence of
  893. a pinhole black hole that must have drifted past recently.
  894. As to the question, "What if he dies?"...what happens is that they
  895. come and pick me up, bring me to the nearest mortuary, I'm autopsied,
  896. needles are inserted in my heel and elbow, the blood is removed from my
  897. body, embalming fluid is subsequently pumped in, I'm dressed in an
  898. ill-fitting suit, displayed briefly (against my wishes), shoved into a
  899. crematorium, my remains are transferred to ash, and I spend THE NEXT TEN
  900. THOUSAND YEARS HAUNTING YOUR ASS FOR ASKING A MORBID QUESTION LIKE THAT!!!
  901. All my notes are triple-encrypted. Only I know the password. So it's
  902. in the best interests of EVERYBODY to keep my ass ALIVE for the next 3.5
  903. years.
  904. jms
  905. Subject: Personal Query from JMS
  906. Date: 15 Jan 1995 23:14:49 -0500
  907. For a while now, I've been trying to find some old friends with whom
  908. I've lost all contact. Given the resource here, and the theory that we
  909. are all only 6 people away from anybody else...I thought I'd try it here.
  910. If anybody should know how to contact the following people, if y'all
  911. could send me a note I'd be greatly appreciative.
  912. Liz or Elizabeth Ochoa. Last known to be in San Diego. Red hair,
  913. Basque background. Rose tattoo on left wrist. Resided in San Diego from
  914. 1978 through 1981, had a 4-year old son named (I believe) Justin (who
  915. would now be about 19). Liz would be roughly 39-40 years old.
  916. Colleen Carnevale, also from San Diego, same age range. Blonde, and
  917. formerly, through her father, a member of the San Diego Yacht Club. She
  918. worked at the Whaley House up through about 1979, and worked as an
  919. Orientation Counselor at SDSU through about 1978. May be married now.
  920. Joanne Massie, formerly a high school teacher at Chula Vista High
  921. School, 1972. Last I'd heard she had moved to Texas around 1975.
  922. (Mrs. Massie was the one who got me into writing when I was just a
  923. kid, gave me the chance to follow my abilities.)
  924. Joe or Joseph Trez, 40-41, resident of Matawan, New Jersey in about
  925. 1970. Nothing since.
  926. Sherily Mattarocci, roughly 34, may now be married with a different
  927. name. Formerly from Bonita, California. (Oops, make that Sherilyn, not
  928. Sherily.)
  929. Marcus Manecke, former cult member (Children of God), 42-44, lived
  930. in religious commune (unrelated to CoG) in Chula Vista through 1978, may
  931. now be living in the New England area. He was also a musician.
  932. Any info should be sent via private email. These are all friends,
  933. just would like to find out whatever happened to them. Thanks.
  934. jms
  935. Subject: Re: Attn JMS -- "Producer's cu
  936. Date: 16 Jan 1995 04:50:59 -0500
  937. It's a wonderful idea, and a kind suggestion, but it would have to
  938. come from Warners; a fundraiser wouldn't work. Maybe someday....
  939. jms
  940. Subject: Outer Limits on Showtime: Whic
  941. Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:28:02 -0500
  942. The Outer Limits series will not be remakes for the most part, though
  943. I hear they may consider one or two. Demon will definitely not be among
  944. them. I had great hopes for OL, because I'd like to see some good SF
  945. being done on cable, but I don't think so...first, they dumped Joe Stefano
  946. and Leslie Stevens, froze them out of the show, pretty cold thing to do
  947. to the producer/writers who created the thing (legal maneuvering now
  948. complete, I understand, and they'll finally get their proper credit on
  949. the show)...Michael Cassutt finally bolted from the show as primary
  950. writer/producer a while ago, wanting nothing more to do with it....
  951. When B5 went on hiatus over the summer, the new OL team -- the same
  952. people who brought you Space Rangers -- called me in to become a consultant
  953. or producer on the show, even though they knew it'd mean dividing my time
  954. (which was why consultant was better). I met with them, and saw a
  955. breakdown of the stories they were planning to do. I can't remember the
  956. last time I was so completely appalled. I felt I could have nothing to
  957. do with the show in any way, manner, shape or form; I felt they had NO
  958. understanding of what the Outer Limits was supposed to be.
  959. Here's just ONE example of the stories they were putting forth (and
  960. I feel that I can quote this one because I know it didn't get used, for
  961. the singular reason that Cassutt, when he came aboard, insisted that it
  962. NOT be done, having the same horrified reaction that I did. But it's
  963. nonetheless emblematic of the rest of the stories.
  964. A guy's hang-gliding. Caught by a wind, he rises higher and higher
  965. until he passes out from lack of oxygen. Comes to descending toward a
  966. military base. He's captured by American soldiers, put in a cell...and
  967. in the cell across from him...is John F. Kennedy, who *didn't* die when
  968. the assassin's bullet hit his head. He was cryogenically suspended until
  969. he could be fixed up. Now this has been done, but Kennedy insists that
  970. they won't release him. Together, the two manage to escape...at which
  971. point the guy discovers that the reason that they had him in a cell was
  972. that Kennedy came through the surgery a homicidal maniac determined to
  973. destroy the world...and now it falls to this guy to kill Kennedy a
  974. second time.
  975. Go ahead...guess what the guys' last name just *happens* to be.
  976. Yep. Oswald.
  977. I told the producers, "If you do this story, the entire american
  978. viewing public will descend upon your offices, drag you out into the
  979. street, slap two telephone poles together and crucify you. And I will
  980. personally hand them the nails."
  981. So we'll see...I don't know how much Cassutt was able to deter them
  982. from their path, especially since he bolted, which means he probably
  983. wasn't able to do much. I'll take a look at it, because hope endures in
  984. the face of reason...but I think this is gonna be problematic.
  985. jms
  986. Subject: Attn: JMS
  987. Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:24:46 -0500
  988. We'll work this into dialogue to make it clearer....
  989. jms
  990. Subject: Intelligence at the "rim"
  991. Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:55:43 -0500
  992. You won't have to wait for future seasons to find out what's going
  993. on out on the rim; you'll have a pretty good picture of it before the
  994. end of THIS season.
  995. jms
  996. Subject: Re: - JSM & The Arc -
  997. Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:55:30 -0500
  998. Wow, what a detailed analysis....
  999. Okay, some good thoughts here. Quick responses.
  1000. The best way to approach this is to discuss my approach to writing in
  1001. general. I've now written two published novels, and have a third ready to
  1002. be written as soon as I have six months to a year to spare (i.e, not for
  1003. a while yet). My structure is always very tight on these things, in the
  1004. sense that I plan out the basic *spine* of the novel. I know I'm starting
  1005. at point A, I want to end at point Z, and I want to hit a certain number of
  1006. spots along the way. Then I start writing. Once I've committed to that
  1007. STRUCTURE, everything else becomes expendable or fluid. I've ha
  1008. background characters suddenly lurch into the foreground, and major
  1009. characters (or characters I *thought* would be major) fall into the
  1010. background. Sometimes, while chugging along the structure highway, I'll
  1011. see something interesting just off the main road, and I'll go poke around
  1012. in there for a while.
  1013. Basically, I like being *surprised*. And I think, in general, that
  1014. readers do as well. At no time do I diverge from where I want to go; the
  1015. spine never alters. But the details are absolutely fluid.
  1016. When I write an episode, I do exactly the same thing. I *HATE* to
  1017. outline; I think it freezes the story too much. So in general I just sit
  1018. down at the keyboard, knowing the title of the episode, the primary
  1019. incidents that have to happen, and a few character moments, and stgart
  1020. writing. And things suddenly occur to me, I get surprised by moments when
  1021. the characters turn to me and say, "Hey, stupid, don't do THAT, do *THIS*."
  1022. And I go where they tell me. The result is that the scripts I write tend
  1023. to be VERY tight: they go where they're going, and move like a house
  1024. afire...BUT there's the real sense that ANYdamnedthing can happen at any
  1025. moment, because I'm not locked in.
  1026. The same applies to the series overall. I know *exactly* where the
  1027. series is going, the final denouement, the benchmarks of each season, and
  1028. have brief synopses on most of the episodes. But you have to be open to
  1029. surprises, have to allow yourself to be pulled one way or another on the
  1030. details, otherwise you get predictable, and you lose the spark. Also,
  1031. the reality is that actors are human; there can be contract disputes,
  1032. health problems, any number of things...so there have to be trap doors
  1033. built into the storyline for *every single one of the characters* without
  1034. exception.
  1035. The closest comparison, I suppose, would be doing a story about
  1036. World War II. The individual pieces can move around, people can come and
  1037. go, live or die, suddenly be revealed to be counterspies...but the basic
  1038. progression, the storyline of the war, is not changed. (Unless you're
  1039. doing alternate history, which we're not.) When I write, I basically
  1040. carry the whole storyline in my head, and I run the episode through that
  1041. to make sure that it all parses.
  1042. It's as if you've flashed back in time to WW II, and you're in a
  1043. battalion going into Normandy Beach. You know that in the long run, the
  1044. Allies will win the war...but you look around at the other people in
  1045. the landing craft with you, and you have no idea which of them is going
  1046. to make it through to the end. One is set. The other is fluid.
  1047. The final destination of the story, and the chief points along the
  1048. way...none of that has altered so much as an inch. Within that structure
  1049. I may move some elments up, push some back; you have to find the *feel* of
  1050. the story as you write it, something you can't prepare for until you're
  1051. actually writing it. But the structure remains, giving me freedom to
  1052. roam where I want...if I decide to kill off one of the three really major
  1053. human characters in year three (and I'm NOT saying I'm planning on it, I'm
  1054. just discussing hypotheticals), I can do it, and the overall storyline
  1055. isn't touched.
  1056. A destination may be fixed on the horizon...but sometimes the most fun
  1057. you have is getting lost from time to time on the way there.
  1058. jms
  1059. Subject: Intelligence at the "rim"
  1060. Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:55:43 -0500
  1061. You won't have to wait for future seasons to find out what's going
  1062. on out on the rim; you'll have a pretty good picture of it before the
  1063. end of THIS season.
  1064. jms
  1065. Subject: Attn JMS: Have You Read Pohl's
  1066. Date: 17 Jan 1995 02:20:12 -0500
  1067. I've missed a fair amount of Pohl's work, including the "heechee"
  1068. stuff...but in any event, the shadows are all mine.
  1069. jms
  1070. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  1071. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:23:55 -0500
  1072. Re: writing "The Quality of Mercy" while half-dead with the flu...my
  1073. staff knows well enough to *never* get between me and a script. As Vir
  1074. says, the consequences would be *profoundly* unfortunate.
  1075. jms
  1076. Subject: JMS: Sinclair leaving B5
  1077. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:28:46 -0500
  1078. That story is absolutely, 100% bogus, and is one of a number of
  1079. destructive, false rumors floating around right now. When we were
  1080. contemplating what to do with the role of Sinclair, we called Michael
  1081. in, and we talked about it. Nobody sent anybody a letter saying
  1082. you're outta here. That's a flat-out lie, nothing less, and whoever
  1083. told you (Chris) this is either misremembering or deliberately giving
  1084. out false information. Nor have there been any problems between the
  1085. company and Michael. This is claptrap, nothing less.
  1086. jms
  1087. Subject: ATTN JMS: UK con appearance
  1088. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:30:33 -0500
  1089. Unfortunately I don't have the info on the UK con in April in
  1090. front of me, it's at the office. I can remember such things for only
  1091. about 20 minutes when my brain seizes up and flushes the info. There
  1092. have been inquiries about attending the Wolf 359 convention later in
  1093. the year, but thus far I've heard nothing formal from the convention, or
  1094. specifics on how this would be worked out. Be assured that there will
  1095. probably be lots of info on this other con well before the April event
  1096. (I keep thinking it's not far from Stratford-upon-Avon...).
  1097. jms
  1098. Subject: ATTN JMS: Londo's Spots?
  1099. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:35:20 -0500
  1100. Insofar as I know, the spots are still there; sometimes theyre
  1101. (they're) more visible than other times, depending on lighting.
  1102. jms
  1103. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  1104. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:23:43 -0500
  1105. I'M FINE! DO YOU HEAR ME!? I'M ABSOLUTELY, BLOODY, BOLLICKY,
  1106. BUGGERY JUST PERFECTLY AND ABSOLUTELY ****FINE!!!**** I'VE NEVER BEEN
  1107. BETTER, I'M FINE...I'M....I'M.....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH.......
  1108. ....................................................<thunk>
  1109. jms
  1110. Subject: ATTN JMS: Sheridan's name: Bla
  1111. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:48:44 -0500
  1112. Just coincidence in the name; he destroyed the Black Star, hence
  1113. Starkiller.
  1114. jms
  1115. Subject: Re: Outer Limits on Showtime:
  1116. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:48:32 -0500
  1117. Basically, I hated everything about the story...it was one of the
  1118. old "three word endings" that are symptomatic of bad SF ("The killer's...
  1119. OSWALD!"), it destroys the Kennedy image for NO reason, it's a dumb
  1120. idea, it has no dramatic progression of any kind...it's just a dumbness.
  1121. I like alternative history stories as much as anybody; this one just
  1122. was awful.
  1123. jms
  1124. Subject: JMS: Death and Dyin <reprisal>
  1125. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:07 -0500
  1126. Re: the fate of any possible actor on the show...like I said, I've
  1127. built in trap doors for everybody on the show with one fairly obvious
  1128. exception. (Viz: me.)
  1129. Hey, I've *read* Scherezade (though I can't spell it for squat); I
  1130. ain't no fool.
  1131. As for "all this attention"...you're still talking mainly about the
  1132. online community; the majority of the American public still doesn't know
  1133. the show even *exists*.
  1134. But we're getting there.
  1135. jms
  1136. Subject: B5 mention in Akron Voyager Re
  1137. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:17 -0500
  1138. Would love a copy of the clip; can you send it to me via:
  1139. 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423? Much
  1140. appreciated.
  1141. jms
  1142. Subject: Request: Rowan Atkinson on B5
  1143. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:27 -0500
  1144. Would *love* to see Rowan do the show sometime; also Tom Baker,
  1145. Meatloaf, Alice Cooper, John Cleese.....
  1146. Maybe someday.
  1147. jms
  1148. Subject: Episode list for winning new c
  1149. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:39 -0500
  1150. I'd omit "War Prayer" and put in "The Parliament of Dreams."
  1151. jms
  1152. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  1153. Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:49 -0500
  1154. (To Jim Batka...thanks.)
  1155. jms
  1156. Subject: Stun Settings?
  1157. Date: 18 Jan 1995 02:23:11 -0500
  1158. Yes; a PPG shoots superheated helium at high velocity. You coul,d
  1159. (could) lower the heat on the plasma, but still kick it out at the same
  1160. velocity, so it wouldn't do as much damage, provided it didn't hit any
  1161. exposed skin.
  1162. jms
  1163. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  1164. Date: 18 Jan 1995 05:21:08 -0500
  1165. "Do we play taps now, or just space 'im?"
  1166. (Go ahead, laugh...my hard disk gets cremated WITH me!)
  1167. jm<thunk>s
  1168. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  1169. Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:07:43 -0500
  1170. I hope to make this my last message on the subject, in hopes that this
  1171. topic will finally...er...die off. It's really kinda morbid when you're
  1172. on this end of the modem.
  1173. Bottom line...it ain't a matter of making sure somebody gets my notes
  1174. on the overall storyline. If you're a painter, you can give someone your
  1175. notes on how to finish the painting in case something happens, but it won't
  1176. be done *exactly* the way you would want it. So better to leave it
  1177. unfinished, with that part which *is* finished being 100% what you wanted
  1178. it to be, than let it be completed by others, and not necessarily as well.
  1179. This show has to be done exactly, a certain way, or it won't be what
  1180. I *want* it to be. My notes are for my own use. Maybe that sounds selfish
  1181. or self-indulgent. Maybe it is. There are lots of writers out there as
  1182. good or better than I am. That ain't the problem. Give 10 writers the
  1183. same basic parameters and you'll get 10 different stories. This is my
  1184. story. And where I go, it goes.
  1185. jms
  1186. Subject: The Crucible: ST vs. B5
  1187. Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:08:11 -0500
  1188. Bruce's thoughts in this thread are about the most cogent analysis of
  1189. B5 (theme and direction) I've yet seen, insofar as these elements are
  1190. concerned. Very precise.
  1191. jms
  1192. Subject: JMS: PTEN contact info?
  1193. Date: 19 Jan 1995 02:18:06 -0500
  1194. Correct; Dick Robertson is President of Domestic TV for Warners, is
  1195. at the address noted in your message, and is the one to continue to
  1196. receive any good wishes for the show.
  1197. jms
  1198. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  1199. Date: 19 Jan 1995 03:25:59 -0500
  1200. "How about if I found out I have terminal cancer and am going to die
  1201. in one month. Will you tell me how B5 is going to end?"
  1202. My condolences to your survivors.
  1203. jms
  1204. Subject: JMS: Inspiration???
  1205. Date: 19 Jan 1995 22:38:50 -0500
  1206. I'd have to say no, the Prisoner didn't inspire me in creating B5. I
  1207. enjoy the show, and nod toward it as a milestone in SF history, maybe the
  1208. best show made to date, but inspiration on this....no.
  1209. jms
  1210. Subject: Re: B5 CREATOR COMMENTS ON VOY
  1211. Date: 20 Jan 1995 02:14:37 -0500
  1212. "If memory serves, this is the first real praise (jms) has for ST.
  1213. I think he is gaining real confidence about his own show."
  1214. I think you're trying to connect two unrelated things. 1) I have
  1215. always had confidence in my own show, or I wouldn' be here. 2) Up until
  1216. now, minus some good things in TNG, there hasn't been very much noteworthy
  1217. (imo) *about* ST that I could say. Now there is.
  1218. jms
  1219. Subject: ATTN AWK:Starfuries the only E
  1220. Date: 20 Jan 1995 04:35:41 -0500
  1221. Obviously humans and the EA have other kinds of attack vessels; but
  1222. the Starfuries are the ones most apt for protecting the station; it's a
  1223. general purpose craft...not much use around Epsilon 3 for bombing runs.
  1224. jms
  1225. Subject: Attn JMS: did show concept cha
  1226. Date: 20 Jan 1995 11:14:27 -0500
  1227. There was never any intention whatsoever of doing B5 within the
  1228. context of the Star Trek universe. It was always intended as a wholly
  1229. original concept. It was taken to a half dozen or more studios, and
  1230. that included Paramount, yes, but Paramount doesn't just do Trek. I never
  1231. wanted to tell this story in the ST universe because it *couldn't* be told
  1232. there; the rules that confine story areas simply wouldn't let it happen.
  1233. jms
  1234. Subject: ATTN: JMS 2 questions.
  1235. Date: 20 Jan 1995 17:36:34 -0500
  1236. I've picked several middle-names for Sheridan; now I'm waiting to see
  1237. which he grows into. And to send stuff, send it along to me via:
  1238. 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423.
  1239. jms
  1240. Subject: ATTN JMS: Props question.
  1241. Date: 20 Jan 1995 17:46:10 -0500
  1242. Links are held on in the real world with a non-abraisve chemical
  1243. used to hold prosthetics; comes off fairly easily, doesn't pull hairs,
  1244. doesn't cause long-term problems.
  1245. jms
  1246. Subject: ATTN JMS: Book?
  1247. Date: 20 Jan 1995 18:10:54 -0500
  1248. What I'll do years down the road is beyond my contemplation; I know I
  1249. have enough material for several books, but whether they get written is
  1250. anybody's guess.
  1251. jms
  1252. Subject: JMS: Will you sign my B5 comic
  1253. Date: 20 Jan 1995 19:59:29 -0500
  1254. With a SASE, just to make it more guaranteed that I'll send it back,
  1255. yes.
  1256. jms
  1257. Subject: Attn JMS: irony is our friend
  1258. Date: 20 Jan 1995 20:34:50 -0500
  1259. Yeah, I don't doubt that Majel took some swipes at B5 (which show was
  1260. that, btw?).
  1261. She's long been very frangible about the whole issue. I think she
  1262. doesn't like having her monopoly in any way threatened.
  1263. Here's an example of how Majel is, which can be confirmed by others
  1264. online who were there: when I went to debut the B5 pilot at Wishcon, she
  1265. had the presentation right before mine. I had just under two hours to
  1266. show the pilot, with maybe fifteen minutes of intro and technical setup.
  1267. She was due to leave the stage at the top of the hour.
  1268. After me, was scheduled the auction to raise money for terminally
  1269. ill children, the purpose of the whole con. Remember that.
  1270. So the top of the hour came. Majel didn't surrender the stage. Ten
  1271. minutes after. Fifteen. Twenty. People began indicating for her to
  1272. leave. She refused. She looked in my direction, said, "I see him back
  1273. there, I know he's here," and kept *right* on talking. And talking.
  1274. Finally, round about the half-hour mark, she finally stopped. So
  1275. now there was NO time for any discussion from me at all, and even if we
  1276. ran through the tech setup as fast as possible, we would still cut deep
  1277. into the auction. It was a clear and obvious attempt to sabotage the
  1278. showing, in front of a couple hundred witnesses. Though she has been
  1279. known to go a bit over from time to time at other cons, her reference to
  1280. me, and the length of the overage, clearly showed it was intentional.
  1281. I told the convention people that I would be willing to only show the
  1282. first hour of the pilot (its first screening anywhere), maybe try to find
  1283. a time in the evening to show the rest. They insisted: show the whole
  1284. thing, and we'll just take it out of the auction. Nonetheless, I kept my
  1285. introductory comments as brief as possible, showed the pilot, and rather
  1286. than keep the room tied up longer, crammed everybody who wanted to talk
  1287. about it into a smaller room down the hall.
  1288. Later, several people from the con confronted Majel with this, as
  1289. she was signing autographs. They asked her point-blank if she'd done
  1290. this *deliberately* to try and screw B5. She just smiled. Didn't matter
  1291. that in the long run, her actions would just end up hurting the cause of
  1292. aiding terminally ill children. Later, due to a lot of people being very
  1293. upset by her behavior, she offered to write a note apologizing. Suffice
  1294. to say it was never written.
  1295. jms
  1296. Subject: NetGhoddess Meriday's Portrait
  1297. Date: 20 Jan 1995 21:45:49 -0500
  1298. That's a great portrait, Mike. BTW, I very much enjoyed Wizard of
  1299. Speed and Time, and wish things could have gone better over the long
  1300. haul.
  1301. jms
  1302. Subject: JMS: you knew this was coming.
  1303. Date: 21 Jan 1995 00:25:57 -0500
  1304. I understand the reason behind such suggestions, but at the same time
  1305. I don't want to be getting hundreds of these things in the mail to sign.
  1306. So case by case.
  1307. jms
  1308. Subject: Defense Grid: big PPG's or pro
  1309. Date: 21 Jan 1995 03:52:48 -0500
  1310. A current reply on the makeup of the defense grid would be obsolete
  1311. within the next 3 new episodes, so I'll defer until then.
  1312. jms
  1313. Subject: ATTN JMS: Diplomacy questions
  1314. Date: 21 Jan 1995 03:52:37 -0500
  1315. There are various embassies and diplomatic missions on various
  1316. worlds (Earth has the most; Universe Today had a story about a Minbari
  1317. embassy being bombed). Because space on B5 is so tight, complete offices
  1318. for every single ambassador would kill most of the available space; so
  1319. they have access to the station's facilities for business rooms, meeting
  1320. rooms, conference rooms and the like.
  1321. jms
  1322. Subject: ATTN, JMS: DEMON GLASS HAND II
  1323. Date: 21 Jan 1995 19:50:45 -0500
  1324. Right now, we're moving fast toward accellerating and escalating the
  1325. events of the overall arc, and having a hard time determining how to fit
  1326. in a stand-alone in the last batch of episodes, so this may hav to wait.
  1327. jms
  1328. Subject: ATTN JMS: Starfury Model Kit?
  1329. Date: 21 Jan 1995 19:49:04 -0500
  1330. I keep waiting for a deal to get made for models...I think it'd be
  1331. great....
  1332. jms
  1333. Subject: JMS: Season 2 Finale title?
  1334. Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:29:21 -0500
  1335. I have several titles for the last episode of this season; won't know
  1336. which fits best until I get there in the writing. One possible title is
  1337. "A Fall of Night," but I may not go with that one.
  1338. jms
  1339. Subject: Attn. JMS: Flashbacks?
  1340. Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:29:40 -0500
  1341. I don't like loose threads hanging around, so all this will get tied
  1342. up. In some cases, we'll see flashbacks to stuff that happened "around the
  1343. corner," so to speak, and in others we'll have dialogue explanations. WE
  1344. get the scoop on what question Delenn asked Kosh (via Lennier) before this
  1345. season is out.
  1346. jms
  1347. Subject: Re: Outer Limits on Showtime:
  1348. Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:29:06 -0500
  1349. The season of Twilight Zone that I story edited and wrote for (about
  1350. 11 episodes or so) is in syndication currently, so may be showing up in
  1351. your area somewhere. We did some nifty stuff, I think....
  1352. jms
  1353. Subject: Chicago Convention from jms
  1354. Date: 22 Jan 1995 03:16:11 -0500
  1355. For those who haven't haerd...there is going to be a major convention
  1356. in Chicago on June 24th and 25th; particularly major for Babylon 5. Guests
  1357. appearing at the convention include me, Michael O'Hare, Mira Furlan, Bill
  1358. Mumy and Richard Biggs. This is the biggest gathering of B5 people since
  1359. a surprise appearance at the San Diego Comic Con the summer we went on with
  1360. the series.
  1361. It's called The Big Bang Convention, and the other guests include Mark
  1362. Hamill, John deLancie, Robert O'Reilly and others. Admission is $35 for
  1363. general attendence (per day), $150 for VIP tickets, and $250 for Deluxe
  1364. VIP. I'll be giving a seminar as part of the program for prospective
  1365. television/film writers...a Q&A structure, not a workshop where scripts
  1366. will be evaluated.
  1367. The hotel is the Courtyard By Mariott in Elmhurst, with the con held
  1368. at the Odeum in Villa Park. The VIP pass includes the writing seminar,
  1369. an acting seminar (both are, I believe, also available to non-VIP guests
  1370. for a small fee, around $20), a gambling riverboat outing with con guests,
  1371. hotel accommodations for both nights, and other stuff.
  1372. It's my understanding that the tickets for this convention are now
  1373. available through Ticketron. They expect something on the order of
  1374. 15,000 people to show up for this one. I understand they're also doing
  1375. some performance stuff between guests, and are working hard to make this
  1376. a real Event.
  1377. jms
  1378. Subject: X-Files win is good for B5
  1379. Date: 22 Jan 1995 07:41:58 -0500
  1380. X-FILES won the Golden Globe for Best Series?! No shit!? That's
  1381. absolutely terrific. I hadn't heard this. Definitely deserved.
  1382. jms
  1383. Subject: Question from a Trekker
  1384. Date: 22 Jan 1995 07:38:06 -0500
  1385. Jeffrey...this is just a question, not a flame. You say you wrote
  1386. off B5 after one episode. How long did you give the first two ST series
  1387. to get their sea-legs?
  1388. jms
  1389. Subject: Licensing & merchandise questi
  1390. Date: 22 Jan 1995 09:08:51 -0500
  1391. B5 stuff has been selling well for all our licensees. I've been told
  1392. that Creation has come back to license more stuff. I don't know how much
  1393. ink All-U has been getting on its shirts, but I haven't head anything.
  1394. jms
  1395. Subject: Suger Ray Robinson on Babylon
  1396. Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:49:34 -0500
  1397. It was Larry's idea to name the character Walker Smith, after Sugar
  1398. Ray Robinson.
  1399. jms
  1400. Subject: Re: Chicago Convention from jm
  1401. Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:50:18 -0500
  1402. Nothing slated for the Detroit area that I'm aware of.
  1403. jms
  1404. Subject: JMS: Sinclair in Twilight Zone
  1405. Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:50:39 -0500
  1406. Actually, the doctor's name was St. Clair, not Sinclair, but it
  1407. sounds like that...it's visible in the credits, though.
  1408. jms
  1409. Subject: Re: Chicago Convention from jm
  1410. Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:49:57 -0500
  1411. I'll probably bring the blooper reel, a music video or two, and an
  1412. unaired episode.
  1413. jms
  1414. Subject: Re: Chicago Convention from jm
  1415. Date: 23 Jan 1995 04:18:40 -0500
  1416. To Howard Shubs...the Big Bang Convention is most emphatically NOT a
  1417. Creation Convention, has nothing to do with Creation, and has stated an
  1418. intention to do a very different kind of con unique to their approach.
  1419. The one is totally unrelated to the other.
  1420. jms
  1421. Subject: Re: Homosexuality argument
  1422. Date: 23 Jan 1995 04:16:51 -0500
  1423. ARE YOU PEOPLE ALL STILL ARGUING ABOUT THIS STUFF?
  1424. OKAY, THAT'S IT. EVERYBODY CLEAR OUT. EVERYBODY OUTTA THE POOL. I
  1425. DON'T WANT THIS JOINT BASHED UP AND BEAT UP EVERY TIME SOMEBODY DRAGS THIS
  1426. ARGUMENT OUT OF THE CLOSET! THERE'S GOTTA BE AN ISSUES FORUM SOMEWHERE!
  1427. IT'S LIKE THE GODDAMN DRAZI...EVERY FIVE YEARS YOU DIVIDE UP INTO TWO
  1428. CAMPS AND BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA EACH OTHER! AND AS IVANOVA SAID, "GRANTED
  1429. THE OTHER RACES WOULDN'T *MIND* IF YOU KILL ONE ANOTHER, EVEN THEY WOULD
  1430. PREFER YOU DID SO *QUIETLY*."
  1431. Okay? Take it outside, people.
  1432. I don't care who's wrong, I don't care who's right, I don't care
  1433. who had the last word or who got offended last. Take it outside.
  1434. jms
  1435. Subject: ATTN JMS: Please verify about
  1436. Date: 23 Jan 1995 04:51:37 -0500
  1437. Keffer wasn't added because fans thought that sending the commanding
  1438. officer into battle was inappropriate. We will still continue to send our
  1439. COs into battle when necessary. Throughout the season, we've tried to
  1440. flesh out the command levels. We started with 2 starfury squadrons on B5,
  1441. and added a third in "Survivors." Logically, those are going to have
  1442. squad leaders. Adding in all three would be a stretch budget-wise, but we
  1443. could at least add one, to show a different aspect of the crew. And, in
  1444. truth, you wouldn't have command personnel leading every single routine
  1445. mission. We'd kinda wanted to do this in the first year, but we didn't
  1446. have the money for it. In year two, we did, and thus added him.
  1447. Everyone who advertises on a show would like their products to be
  1448. shown. Likewise, everyone advertising on B5 wanted their stuff shown.
  1449. The good thing about this, for a show with a limited (non ST) budget is
  1450. that you could have access to their products without having to pay a
  1451. license fee. For fun, for instance, we stuck a Zima sign on the back of
  1452. a couple of bars. When Kawasaki came on as a sponsor, Larry kinda got to
  1453. wondering how on earth you could ever work in a motorcycle...and got a
  1454. fun idea. So we went ahead and did it. We never had to do either of
  1455. them, or ANY of them. My feeling since is that it probably wasn't worth
  1456. doing it, best to leave this stuff out, and in year two we haven't done
  1457. ANY of it. Basically, it was a whim.
  1458. You'll note that SFU's description of the O'Hare situation doesn't
  1459. quote anybody. There are several questionable conclusions in the article,
  1460. though overall they did a good job. This, though, is one of them. They
  1461. also mis-labled about 4 or 5 photographs. It also kinda bugs me just a
  1462. little that they attribute all the setups on the visuals to the directors,
  1463. when in nearly every case the script *specifically* describes how the shot
  1464. should be set up. I don't mind sharing credit with directors on some of
  1465. this stuff, because it's a collaboration...I just don't like it when ALL
  1466. the credit goes to the director, who used a beam of stark white light in
  1467. a scene, because it said in the script, "Sinclair stands in a beam of
  1468. stark white light."
  1469. jms
  1470. Subject: ATTN: JMS - Christianity in 23
  1471. Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:09:18 -0500
  1472. Many religious types in 2259 feel that god has appeared to other
  1473. worlds in different forms; others feel that it is their obligation to go
  1474. out into the galaxy and bring the *right* word; in other cases, whole new
  1475. schisms and belief systems sprouted once alien contact had been made,
  1476. including Foundationalism, which Dr. Franklin belongs to (you'll hear
  1477. more about this from Franklin later this season).
  1478. jms
  1479. Subject: UK: B5 coverage in `The Indepe
  1480. Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:27:34 -0500
  1481. And from his statement "My theory is that the programe's a duffer,"
  1482. he tells you right there that he's never seen the damned thing.
  1483. jms
  1484. Subject: ATTN JMS: Scheduling
  1485. Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:28:11 -0500
  1486. Year 2 is 22 episodes. I don't think any of the breaks will be as
  1487. long as year 1 since we started at a different time.
  1488. jms
  1489. Subject: Reasons why Bab 5 is crap
  1490. Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:30:24 -0500
  1491. The majority of "flaws" you point out are, I'm afraid, rather
  1492. inaccurate.
  1493. 1) Doors that swing up. There's nobody just upstairs to be bothered
  1494. by this; the levels are very well isolated from one another. Also, they
  1495. don't go straight up, they're cantilevered, so they swing up and *sideways*
  1496. out of the way. Also, from a technical standpoint, this is a better way
  1497. of ensuring pressure door integrity. If there's a hull blown out, and
  1498. your doors move sideways or meet in the middle, you're going to lose air.
  1499. If the door drops down into place, and is held by inertia, no holes or
  1500. lines, it's *solid*. (It's a solid seal, which is why you can hear it
  1501. close.) It's got nothing to do with trying to not be like Trek; it's
  1502. finding what's most accurate and doing it.
  1503. 2) No, we're not borrowing ST's ideas. You say their communicators
  1504. know automatically when you're talking to them. Ours don't. You have
  1505. to physically toggle them. Then, once you've done so, you say, "Sheridan
  1506. to Garibaldi." This verbally activates the system, and rings Garibaldi's
  1507. Link. He toggles his Link and says, "Garibaldi, go." No AI is ever
  1508. involved, really; it's a routing system. (And you'll note that Garibaldi
  1509. doesn't hear the "Sheridan to Garibaldi" part, only the stuff after it
  1510. beeps.) This is not only consistent with the rest of our tech, it's
  1511. actually close to being workable *today*.
  1512. 3) Re: aliens knowing about Earth...remember please that you're
  1513. talking about AMBASSADORS here whose JOB it is to know all they can about
  1514. their host. So they study. They don't know all of it; Londo and Vir got
  1515. cats and ducks confused, and there's holes in their knowledge. That's
  1516. why they keep studying, as with G'Kar reading Earth writings. If I
  1517. am assigned as ambassador to Russia, I'd damned well better know as much
  1518. as I can about the culture, the people, their history, their language,
  1519. you name it. Same here. We have not yet to date shown non-ambassadors
  1520. with this level of interest or knowledge about Earth.
  1521. A lot of the "problems" you cite could simply be worked out by doing
  1522. a little thought on the reasons behind such things, rather than just
  1523. assuming that it's an error. About 90% of the criticism I see is
  1524. kneejerk response, which when you point out how it makes sense if you
  1525. just fire a few synapses, gets "Oh....yeah..." as a reply.
  1526. 4) Zima was a gag. Zima be gone now.
  1527. jms
  1528. Subject: JMS on Homosexuality argument
  1529. Date: 23 Jan 1995 22:53:53 -0500
  1530. If this argument hadn't come through here ten times before this, I
  1531. might not have minded; but this is something like the 11th go-around on
  1532. this, and the fact is that I have not yet seen ONE person change his or
  1533. her views on the subject one way or another. It's NOT a dialogue; it's
  1534. a series of monologues. People hit their marks, scream at the top of
  1535. their lungs, while somebody on the other side does the same.
  1536. The result is that it makes BOTH sides look like jerks, and the
  1537. important information that needs to be communicated gets drowned in all
  1538. the noise and vitriol. Once the conversation has descended to that
  1539. level, NO good cause is served.
  1540. Ironic thing is...the two sides have one thing in common. I've
  1541. received angry and abusive letters from BOTH sides in the debate for
  1542. my message. I've been called a fag-lover in one, and a right-winger in
  1543. another.
  1544. Anybody here remember an episode called "Infection?" Aside form its
  1545. (from its) problems, there was one line in particular I'd like to cite for
  1546. you: "You forgot the first rule of the fanatic: when you become obsessed
  1547. with the enemy, you BECOME the enemy." All I hear around here is
  1548. screaming, and y'know, you all sound alike after a while...and when both
  1549. sides begin using the same tactics, the same flames, the same instant
  1550. condemnation...congratulations, you have become the enemy in whose use of
  1551. those same techniques you find such disgust.
  1552. And this will probably get me *more* hate mail from both sides; which
  1553. means I must be fairly close to the truth. If I can offend BOTH sides,
  1554. then I'm doing my job properly.
  1555. I wouldn't mind so much if this was new...but we're now in our ninth
  1556. rerun of this conversation, and it's poisoning the well without changing
  1557. one person's mind about much of anything. Enough is enough. It not about
  1558. getting the truth out any longer; it's about who gets in the last word,
  1559. and who's the most indignant, and who's a butthead and who's an asshole.
  1560. This, to me, does not edify, ennoble or explicate the topic at hand.
  1561. We are rapidly becoming a nation that is polarized along every
  1562. possible line; gay vs. straight, feminist vs. conservative, pro-choice vs.
  1563. anti-choice...in a nation of laws we have started to resort to acts of
  1564. terror on large and small scales on either side of the spectrum. For two
  1565. hundred years we prided ourselves on the idea -- sometimes flawed, and
  1566. with occasional interruptions -- that we solved our problems at the ballot
  1567. box, not with bullets or trunchens or muggings or firebombings. But now
  1568. more and more both sides are frozen in concrete, opposing opinions are
  1569. no longer tolerated or are proof of disloyalty or stupidity or cupidity
  1570. or bigotry or immorality, people are reduced to stereotypes and jingoisms,
  1571. everybody's demonized and nobody *listens*. We don't talk with each other,
  1572. we yell AT each other. We are two steps away from madness and one step
  1573. away from Beirut.
  1574. In theory, people are here in this forum because they feel strongly
  1575. about Babylon 5, and the optimistic (despite many obstacles) view of the
  1576. future that we portray. Well, if you feel that way, I suggest you ALL
  1577. damn well start BUILDING the future instead of TEARING APART the present,
  1578. start talking TO one another not AT one another, because the future ain't
  1579. gonna GET here otherwise.
  1580. If people want to discuss this area in calm, measured tones, with some
  1581. measure of respect, fine. (And this applies to ALL areas of current hot
  1582. debate, not just this one.) If all you want to do is yell, over and over
  1583. and over...frankly, take a hike. There is a line between doing something
  1584. for a cause, and saying you're doing something for a cause when you're
  1585. just doing it out of ego, bruised or otherwise. Parse your soul and act
  1586. accordingly.
  1587. jms
  1588. Subject: JMS: B5's Epsilon 3 in SQ6?
  1589. Date: 24 Jan 1995 02:28:03 -0500
  1590. I doubt very much that's Epsilon 3.
  1591. jms
  1592. Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  1593. Date: 24 Jan 1995 02:49:22 -0500
  1594. "..it's still unfinished. A shame if B5 were to turn out the same
  1595. way."
  1596. (sound of meaty fists clapping together) Yeah...nice place y'got
  1597. here...drapes, yeah, I like dat, real purty...be a real shame if something
  1598. were to, maybe, *happen* to it, y'know? So...you wanna put these jukeboxes
  1599. in your diner or not...?
  1600. jms
  1601. Subject: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate the A
  1602. Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:03:35 -0500
  1603. I may not have been clear in my meaning when I said "accellerating
  1604. the arc." This doesn't mean doing anything ahead of schedule; it just
  1605. means that now we begin cranking the story into a higher intensity level.
  1606. We've been kind of floating toward our destination...now we begin the
  1607. process of accellerating. If you recall Literary Structure from English
  1608. Lit 101, there's the Introduction, the Rising Action, the Complication,
  1609. the Climax, and the Denouement. Year one up through about the first
  1610. eight episodes of year two are Introduction; we are now in Rising Action
  1611. stage. Remember that this is structured like a novel, and you'll
  1612. generally have some idea of where you stand in the progression.
  1613. jms
  1614. Subject: Bruce Boxleitner at MOC in Jul
  1615. Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:03:51 -0500
  1616. Cool...that's quite a lineup of guests.
  1617. jms
  1618. Subject: TKO and Ivanova
  1619. Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:20:32 -0500
  1620. If the deceased has been dead for quite a while, the period during
  1621. which one must sit shiva is greatly reduced to a day or so, I'm told.
  1622. jms
  1623. Subject: Re: Reasons why Bab 5 is crap
  1624. Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:20:45 -0500
  1625. I would suggest that this whole discussion kinda misses the point, as
  1626. tends to happen. Sure, I could stick in lots of references to ancient
  1627. stuff...but why is it on Trek nothing of cultural value seems to have taken
  1628. place after Shakespeare? Doing antiquity is easy. Modern is harder.
  1629. But the whole POINT of the exercise goes to the heart of the show's
  1630. philosophy: I'm trying, rather desperately, to connect our present to our
  1631. future, to say that's US out there, building the future, recognizeably us.
  1632. We've lost the thread of continuity that ties us to the future. I'm trying
  1633. with this show to tie the two pieces of the string together again. We
  1634. have lots of ties to our ancient past (and I try to work those in as well,
  1635. cultural and literary references), but it's the *future* that we seem to
  1636. have lost touch with today, in our present. So I'm trying to knit those
  1637. together.
  1638. jms
  1639. Subject: ATTN: JMS - CANADA
  1640. Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:20:58 -0500
  1641. "Have you ever mentioned Canada in B5?"
  1642. No, but I've mentioned San Diego. Would you like me to extend the
  1643. honor up north?
  1644. ("Okay, Rudy, load up another one of them five-hundred megaton jobs.")
  1645. Just kidding...I'm pleased that it's going over well in Canada, and
  1646. will see what I can do to nod in that direction without irradiating the
  1647. place.
  1648. jms
  1649. Subject: Re: Reasons why Bab 5 is crap
  1650. Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:04:06 -0500
  1651. How they know the person has finished talking is a) we either have
  1652. our characters physically toggle off their Link, or b) when you drop your
  1653. arm, it senses the change in gravity and orientation like a phone being
  1654. hung up, and closes the connectoin.
  1655. jms
  1656. Subject: ATTN JMS: reading SF
  1657. Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:02 -0500
  1658. One of the drawbacks to producing/writing a series is that it leaves
  1659. you no time for...well, for *anything* else. Thus I haven't been able to
  1660. do much reading of late, though I keep buying books for when I have free
  1661. time. I love reading other authors; I like to be amazed.
  1662. I'd certainly recommend the works of Jonathan Carroll, particularly
  1663. THE LAND OF LAUGHS if you can find it, or any of his later novels (VOICE
  1664. OF OUR SHADOWS is also quite nice). He's a contemporary-dark-fantasy
  1665. writer who is *breathtakingly* good.
  1666. Most of the reading I do now is nonfiction, just to give the brain a
  1667. break from storytelling. I *strongly* commend THE LETTERS OF NORMAN CORWIN
  1668. to anyone out there. Also currently reading Hunter S. Thompson's new book,
  1669. BETTER THAN SEX, just finished a book (alas I've just forgotten the title)
  1670. by a woman raised in the Mormon church about her life in that world. Also
  1671. working my way through Ed Morrow's GRIM REAPER'S BOOK OF DAYS.
  1672. jms
  1673. Subject: ATTN JMS Is there a Canada in
  1674. Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:41 -0500
  1675. Actually, the Blue Jays were sold to the Mars Consortium in 2200, and
  1676. are currently vying for the Worlds Series.
  1677. jms
  1678. Subject: ATTN JMS:Cameos
  1679. Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:56 -0500
  1680. The only cast member to make a non-prosthetic appearance in a show
  1681. is Caitlin Brown, who will appear as a lawyer in an upcoming episode.
  1682. jms
  1683. Subject: JMS: Babcom '95 & blooper reel
  1684. Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:22 -0500
  1685. I do plan to bring the reel, yes.
  1686. jms
  1687. Subject: JMS: how much of story was pit
  1688. Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:52:36 -0500
  1689. Generally speaking, I didn't have to reveal much of the arc at all;
  1690. the show was sold on the strength of the characters and current stories.
  1691. jms
  1692. Subject: CGI Sinclair/Ivanova/Delenn/Lo
  1693. Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:57:36 -0500
  1694. We'll be seeing more planet stuff shortly.
  1695. jms
  1696. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
  1697. Date: 25 Jan 1995 02:15:01 -0500
  1698. I actually didn't go to any of the major film/sports schools; not
  1699. UCLA or USC. I attended (in order) Kankakee Community College, Kankakee,
  1700. Illinois; Richland Junior College, Dallas, Texas; Southwestern Junior
  1701. College, Chula Vista, CA; and finally San Diego State University. Loved
  1702. all my writing and literature courses.
  1703. jms
  1704. Subject: JMS: Thoughts on second issue
  1705. Date: 25 Jan 1995 03:32:01 -0500
  1706. Thanks, we're getting there....
  1707. jms
  1708. Subject: Blast from the present
  1709. Date: 25 Jan 1995 03:59:50 -0500
  1710. Thanks, and welcome.
  1711. jms
  1712. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
  1713. Date: 25 Jan 1995 05:20:13 -0500
  1714. "What was the spark that ignited your desire to create B5?"
  1715. It was a number of things, actually, that all came together at the
  1716. same time.
  1717. 1) I'd just gotten off an SF series (Captain Power) where the budget
  1718. was out of control half the time. It made me nuts. I come from this very
  1719. old fashioned school of thought that says if somebody gives you X-million
  1720. dollars to make a series, it behooves you to act RESPONSIBLY. Then I
  1721. looked around more and found that virtually ALL sf series had gone and
  1722. were going over budget, mainly because they weren't planned out properly.
  1723. The emphasis was on just selling the idea, who cares what happens next.
  1724. Whatever one might think of the episode, the 1/2 hour "Nightcrawlers"
  1725. installment of the new TWILIGHT ZONE cost a tick over ONE MILLION DOLLARS.
  1726. That's nuts. I kept thinking, "There has to be a sensible way to do an sF
  1727. series that's responsible, and by virtue of showing it CAN be done
  1728. responsibly, help to create MORE sf from other people, since the industry
  1729. overall is afraid of it."
  1730. 2) I'd interviewed and known too many SF producers who knew absolutely
  1731. NOTHING about the genre, didn't respect the genre, just wanted to collect
  1732. the bucks and get out.
  1733. 3) As a lifelong SF fan myself, I loved the sagas, the huge cycles:
  1734. Foundation, Childhood's End, Lord of the Rings, Dune, and kept wondering,
  1735. "Why hasn't someone done this for TV?" To which the only answer is,
  1736. "Nobody's tried."
  1737. Those elements just kept niggling at me until finally I sat down and
  1738. worked out first how to design a series responsibly, then came up with the
  1739. concept for the storyline. (Learn from mainstream TV: don't go in search
  1740. of new worlds, building them anew each week, create a place where the
  1741. stories come to YOU, as they do in a hospital, a police station, a law
  1742. office. This led me to a space station.)
  1743. Once I had the locale, I began to populate it with characters, and
  1744. sketch out directions that might be interesting. I dragged out my notes
  1745. on religion, philosophy, history, sociology, psychology, science (the ones
  1746. that didn't make my head explode), and started stitching together a
  1747. crazy quilt pattern that eventually formed a picture. Once I had that
  1748. picture in my head, once I knew what the major theme was, the rest fell
  1749. into place. All at once, I saw the full five year story in a flash, and
  1750. I frantically began scribbling down notes.
  1751. I spent the next couple of years just expanding upon what I saw in
  1752. that flash, building out the characters, the conflicts, the changes in
  1753. alliance, shoring up the thematic elements which will only really become
  1754. apparent over time. In a way, in the midst of this, it was Tennyson's
  1755. "Ulysses" that more surely pointed me toward the heartmeat core of the
  1756. story, which is why I've quoted it in the pilot, in the series, and in
  1757. issue #1 of the comic.
  1758. I knew, instantly, that this show might well be impossible to sell;
  1759. that I could invest years of my life into the task, only to fail in the
  1760. end. And, in fact, it took *five years* to finally get this anywhere.
  1761. During that time, had I dropped it, I could've likely sold two or three
  1762. other more conventional series. But like Sinclair, I strapped myself
  1763. into this particular Starfury, pointed myself at my target, and swore not
  1764. to flinch, no matter what. (In discussions about this with Michael, we
  1765. agreed that only he and I were really entitled to wear the patches from
  1766. the Battle of the Line.)
  1767. For a long time, a lot of people told me to drop it. My agent said,
  1768. "Kiddo, you know I love the project, but I think you've got to face
  1769. reality. It's not going to happen. I have several other gigs you could
  1770. take if you'd drop this for a while. Maybe later you can try again."
  1771. Friends, family, acquaintances, network suits, studio suits, Major
  1772. Agencies...everyone said let it go. It's been four years, going on five.
  1773. How much longer are you going to DO this?
  1774. As long as it TAKES, goddamn it.
  1775. I knew that there was a story I wanted to tell, something that I
  1776. wanted to SAY. And there is nothing more essentially deadly than someone
  1777. who believes, rightly or wrongly, that he's on a mission, grandiose and
  1778. possibly stupid as that sounds. I also wanted to make this show because
  1779. I wanted to SEE it as a viewer. Several years ago, I was looking for a
  1780. particular kind of book to read. Couldn't find it. So I wrote it, then
  1781. shoved it in a closet. My agent heard about it a year or two later,
  1782. dragged it out, read it, and sold it. Go figure.
  1783. Also, you have to understand...when I was a very young kid, I went to
  1784. visit my grandfather's grave. My grandfater was an alcoholic who died in
  1785. the gutter. Literally. And was buried in a pauper's grave. Ever been to
  1786. a pauper's grave? Lead pipe. Brass number. You check the roster to find
  1787. out who's buried. No name, no date. He passed through his life without
  1788. leaving footprints. It terrified me beyond the capacity of words to convey
  1789. to you. I swore, at that moment, that I wouldn't go down like that, that
  1790. I'd leave a mark, somehow, that I'd been here. And on one level, that's
  1791. what Babylon 5 is to me. See, that's why nothing stops me...it's not about
  1792. money, or fame, or merchandising...there's nothing they can use agains]
  1793. me. Whether I stand or fall doesn't matter. If I write hard, if I work
  1794. hard, what I have created will survive me. Even when I'm forgotten, this
  1795. will go on. I will have left my mark.
  1796. That, at least, is the conceit I allow myself in the Hour of the Wolf,
  1797. when everything looks futile, and I doubt myself the most.
  1798. jms
  1799. Subject: ATTN JMS: *what* kind of speci
  1800. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:10:58 -0500
  1801. Minbari are mammals, definitely; structural and skeletal variations
  1802. (horn-like bone growth on the head, a slightly more raised and obvious
  1803. spinal structure, different blood type), and probably in many ways the
  1804. most biologically similar.
  1805. jms
  1806. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
  1807. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:34:00 -0500
  1808. Yes, we'll see the rings in time. And no plans for a book down the
  1809. road...one crisis at a time.
  1810. jms
  1811. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Jerry Doyle, Sto
  1812. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:35:50 -0500
  1813. Correct: Jerry Doyle was at one point a stockbroker. He has since
  1814. reformed.
  1815. jms
  1816. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: reading SF
  1817. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:37:43 -0500
  1818. "Why bother with the vasectomy?"
  1819. Who can remember...?
  1820. jms
  1821. Subject: JMS: Your Show is Number one w
  1822. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:39:33 -0500
  1823. My regards to your wonderfully discerning organization....
  1824. jms
  1825. Subject: JMS: THANK YOU FOR B5 FROM HA
  1826. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:46:59 -0500
  1827. Thank you. Have had only passing experience with Robotech; I've just
  1828. never been able to get into Anime. Glad to hear that 38 supports the
  1829. show; I hear they're okay people.
  1830. In any event...thanks again for the encouragement. It helps.
  1831. jms
  1832. Subject: JMS: Richland College question
  1833. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:50:34 -0500
  1834. I remember little of the classes at Richland College except for a few;
  1835. one was a History of English Literature class, which introduced me to Keats
  1836. and Yeats and Tennyson and Shelley through an instructor who *loved* his
  1837. work and the writers in question. He just breathed life into the words,
  1838. and he encouraged me strongly to pursue my writing.
  1839. Beyond that, there were mainly classes in psychology, sociology,
  1840. some math stuff, and philosophy. One was a History of Greek Philosophy
  1841. course (Thales to Aristotle), which I just loved. By virtue of taking a
  1842. LOT of electives over the years in areas that interested me, I kinda ended
  1843. up with a classical education. It's more breadth than depth, but it gives
  1844. me the tools I need (over the course of four colleges/universities and
  1845. a couple of degrees) to find whatever more is necessary for stories or
  1846. scripts.
  1847. The best thing about the year or so I spent at Richland was that at
  1848. this time (around 1973), beat poetry was still in vogue (well, it was OUT
  1849. of vogue everywhere else, but trends always start and finish first on the
  1850. coasts, then work their way inland from there), and every day at noon by
  1851. the commons there would be performances of beat poetry, which led me to
  1852. explore Ginsburg and Ferlinghetti ("This Life Is Not A Circus Where"
  1853. and "Christ Came Down" being two favorites) and other contemporaries.
  1854. I've always been naturally curious about stuff, and to me the college
  1855. experience was the chance to find out about *anything*. So I just dived
  1856. in and took it for all it was worth. If I'm going on about this a bit,
  1857. it's because I know there are lots of folks here who are currently in or
  1858. entering college. If you only see the parking lot and the cafeteria and
  1859. the bathrooms and the classrooms of the courses you have to take...you're
  1860. missing the point. It's an *amazing* opportunity that will likely not
  1861. come your way again in such plentitude. Take courses in areas outside your
  1862. major, even if just to audit them. There are amazing opportunities you
  1863. can mine if you're a writer, also...college newspapers, magazines, low
  1864. power local/college radio and TV stations, theater department productions,
  1865. on and on and on.
  1866. Granted...a lot of college was a pain in the ass. I took a lot of
  1867. stuff I didn't want, didn't need, and have never used because they were
  1868. required for my major. (One semester, just to get RID of some of this
  1869. stuff, I took 24 units -- crashing classes over my 16 unit limit in order
  1870. to sneak past the rules -- at one time, while working part time. It was
  1871. a profound mistake, since it included 8 units of German and classes in
  1872. Statistical Psychology, Biology and other stuff. Major brain-fry.)
  1873. But overall, the experience was rewarding, and I encourage a
  1874. generalist approach to others. If you're going to be there, ENJOY it.
  1875. jms
  1876. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
  1877. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:50:06 -0500
  1878. The story is still going where I wanted it to go, but in general it
  1879. is even better than I'd hoped it would be.
  1880. jms
  1881. Subject: ATTN JMS: What finally sold B5
  1882. Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:50:19 -0500
  1883. What made all the difference was finding people who *understood* what
  1884. we were trying to do. In general, you know instantly if an exec Gets It or
  1885. not. Most didn't. The first one to Get It was Evan Thompson, head of
  1886. Chris-Craft Television, who put us onto Dick Robertson at Warner Bros.
  1887. We didn't know at the time that PTEN was in the works (a joint venture
  1888. between the two), but when it appeared, we were in line to get on.
  1889. We did multiple pitches to the station group's executive committee,
  1890. and were pleased to see that they, too, Got It. Once we proved that we
  1891. could a) do the pilot, and b) do it for the budget, we got the Go for
  1892. series.
  1893. jms
  1894. Subject: Of Zima and Kawasaki
  1895. Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:52:20 -0500
  1896. Correct. We received not a dime from Zime or Kawasaki. And believe
  1897. me, if we had, I wouldn't be bashful about saying so. Anybody wants to
  1898. help finance this show and make it even better, bring 'em in. Just
  1899. hasn't happened.
  1900. jms
  1901. Subject: Attn: JMS...the best laid plan
  1902. Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:52:33 -0500
  1903. I'm awestruck...simply awestruck.
  1904. We should all wear white for the duration of the convention. I'll
  1905. send a memo on that at once.
  1906. jms
  1907. Subject: Off Topic?
  1908. Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:52:05 -0500
  1909. Sci-Fi Channel has indicated many times that they would like t
  1910. acquire Captain Power, but (in what I must say I think is a doofy move)
  1911. the producer won't release the show unless SFC agrees to finance new eps.
  1912. Cart before the horse, if you ask me. Get the show on first, create the
  1913. need, THEN do more.
  1914. Doofy, I tell you. Doofy, doofy, doofy. Maybe even doofiest.
  1915. jms
  1916. Subject: ATTN: JMS Big Bang con
  1917. Date: 27 Jan 1995 05:00:47 -0500
  1918. I'm *terrible* at gambling. I might as well just pile the money on
  1919. the coffetable and put a match to it. Which is why I generally stay far
  1920. away, or allow only small amounts of money (have actually only gambled a
  1921. couple of times, been to Vegas only once). I'm basically an obsessive-
  1922. compulsive personality, and the LAST thing you want to do is hand someone
  1923. like that a drink, a cigarette, a joint or a pair of dice (which is why
  1924. I don't generally drink, smoke, do drugs or gamble). I'd rather direct
  1925. that obsessive behavior toward writing.
  1926. jms
  1927. Subject: JMS: What about alien doctors
  1928. Date: 27 Jan 1995 05:13:19 -0500
  1929. As it happens, I'm writing a script right *now* that deals with the
  1930. question of alien doctors.
  1931. I live to serve....
  1932. jms
  1933. Subject: "Shadows" request from jms
  1934. Date: 27 Jan 1995 05:15:10 -0500
  1935. A request for those who'll be seeing "The Coming of Shadows" on the
  1936. satellite uplink tomorrow. There's a lot of stuff in that episode, and
  1937. it's probably the best one of the series to date. It has a lot of sudden
  1938. twists and turns that even "WARNING: SPOILER" in message headers won't
  1939. keep from accidentally spilling out.
  1940. Thus, I'd like to make a request I don't generally make: if those
  1941. who get the satellite feed could hold off on ANY plot revelations for a
  1942. few days, until it starts airing, I would *very* much appreciate it.
  1943. After you've seen the ep, you'll understand why I ask this. General
  1944. comments (liked it/hated it), or private email with questions or
  1945. responses...all terrific. I'd just like to try and keep this one as
  1946. close to my vest as possible for a bit.
  1947. jms
  1948. Subject: Run Thru Dark Places -spoiler
  1949. Date: 26 Jan 1995 19:23:06 -0500
  1950. Two corrections: Talia did not walk off with Bester; they took two
  1951. different routes away. Check the tape. Also, there was no reason for
  1952. Ivanova to object to Talia taking off her gloves; she wasn't going to be
  1953. scanned.
  1954. jms
  1955. Subject: Re: A Race Through Dark Places
  1956. Date: 26 Jan 1995 19:29:18 -0500
  1957. B5 operates on EST, Earth Standard Time, as noted in episodes. So
  1958. they do have day and night cycles. And it's the fear of what psi might
  1959. do if they DID join together that worries people, and why we have a
  1960. Psi-Corps. Which is what Talia says.
  1961. jms
  1962. Subject: JMS: Babylon 5 and new watcher
  1963. Date: 26 Jan 1995 19:30:57 -0500
  1964. I'm not sure I understand what faces you have to recognize to follow
  1965. "Race." Bester is re-introduced with an explanation, as is Jason. You
  1966. don't have to recognize the guy from "Chrysalis;" if you do, great, it
  1967. adds a level. If you don't, it still tracks. The only other characters
  1968. are our reglars; so I'm confused as to what there was left to confuse them.
  1969. jms
  1970. Subject: Religion and First Contact....
  1971. Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:27:44 -0500
  1972. First Contact did factionalize or even destroy some religions; others
  1973. sprung up afterward. Others assimmilated the notion. Franklin belongs to
  1974. one that came up after First Contact.
  1975. jms
  1976. Subject: Re: A RACE THROUGH DARK PLACES
  1977. Date: 27 Jan 1995 15:57:33 -0500
  1978. You can generally squeeze 20-25 pops out of a standard PPG energy
  1979. cap. It won't need to be recharged for quite a while. And there you
  1980. just slap a new one in and drop the old one in a recharge bin.
  1981. jms
  1982. Subject: A fan letter, or THANKS JMS!
  1983. Date: 27 Jan 1995 17:58:27 -0500
  1984. You're very much welcome, thanks.
  1985. jms
  1986. Subject: ATTN: JMS on publicity
  1987. Date: 28 Jan 1995 05:54:07 -0500
  1988. Let me be clear on this: we will take ANY opportunity, any help in
  1989. getting the word out. In many ways we are treated with a "stealth
  1990. publicity" campaign by some within the studio; keep a low profile, or
  1991. else god forbid somebody might write an article. So all aid -- putting
  1992. the word out, asking local papers for coverage, writing to magazines,
  1993. anything and everything -- is appreciated.
  1994. jms
  1995. Subject: Minor UK publicity for B5
  1996. Date: 28 Jan 1995 22:13:53 -0500
  1997. I'd love if I could get copies of those two clips sent to me at
  1998. 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423. Many, many
  1999. thanks.
  2000. jms
  2001. Subject: JMS: episode SKIPPED IN DENVER
  2002. Date: 29 Jan 1995 01:03:42 -0500
  2003. Apparently the station mixed up the two tapes.
  2004. I am *profoundly* bugged.
  2005. jms
  2006. Subject: ATTN JMS: When did you go to r
  2007. Date: 29 Jan 1995 01:39:57 -0500
  2008. Okay...Kankakee in 1972-73; Richland 1973-1974; Southwestern
  2009. 1974-1976; SDSU 1976-1977.
  2010. jms
  2011. Subject: ATTN JMS: O'Hare presence = s
  2012. Date: 29 Jan 1995 03:51:48 -0500
  2013. I have never stated, at any time, any specifics about the amount or
  2014. duration of Sinclair's presence in the B5 storyline yet to come because
  2015. a) there are things I wish to withhold, and b) some things must remain
  2016. fluid because if Michael should get, for instance, a major role on a big
  2017. network series offered to him, and with no guarantees of B5 next season,
  2018. he would have to take it. There are certain things planned, but I don't
  2019. generally pin this stuff down until I'm absolutely sure I've nailed down
  2020. all the corners. We *will* see him briefly this season, and we will see
  2021. more of him soon. Beyond that I haven't commented, and won't comment.
  2022. jms
  2023. Subject: A NOVEL
  2024. Date: 29 Jan 1995 06:09:46 -0500
  2025. "I WILL WRITE A SEQUEL TO THE POPULAR MOVIE & NOVEL BABYLON 5."
  2026. Nope.
  2027. jms
  2028. Subject: JMS: Switched Episode Order? [
  2029. Date: 29 Jan 1995 06:14:32 -0500
  2030. Yes, originally, "Soul Mates" was to air after "Race." At that
  2031. time, PTEN was initially going to show just 6 new episodes, and we would
  2032. have come in after the rerun break with "Race," then "Soul." When the
  2033. ratings came in and looked good, they didn't want to interfere with
  2034. the growth, and indicated they wanted to show 7 new eps in the first
  2035. batch. "Race," as you can see, was a very complex episode visually, and
  2036. the only way to get it ready to run #7 in the first batch would've been
  2037. to compromise the integrity of the show, and we simply won't do that for
  2038. ANY reason. "Soul Mates," on the other hand, required very little in the
  2039. way of post production, so that was moved forward into the #7 slot.
  2040. jms
  2041. Subject: BABYLON 5...AFTER THE METAL WA
  2042. Date: 29 Jan 1995 06:14:41 -0500
  2043. Yes, I worked on CAPTAIN POWER, and stuck the reference to Babylon
  2044. 5 into one of my scripts as a nod to the future; did the same in one of
  2045. my novels, OTHERSYDE. Sort of a Tuckerism-before-the-fact. (One good
  2046. thing about this is that it inadvertantly ended up helping make it clear
  2047. to people that I was working on this sucker since 1986/87 or so.)
  2048. jms
  2049. Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
  2050. Date: 30 Jan 1995 01:59:38 -0500
  2051. My first novel was DEMON NIGHT, published in hardcover by E. P.
  2052. Dutton, and nominated for a Bram Stoker Award by the Horror Writers of
  2053. America.
  2054. jms
  2055. Subject: Attn. JMS S.EFX error in RTDP
  2056. Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:02:31 -0500
  2057. The doorbell *is* there. Recently, though, the satellite uplink
  2058. company used by PTEN changed some of its audio feed channels; if your
  2059. local station or whoever downlinked it didn't catch it, some audio got
  2060. missed.
  2061. jms
  2062. Subject: Bester, Our Favorite Storm Tro
  2063. Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:03:00 -0500
  2064. Bester's name was my idea.
  2065. jms
  2066. Subject: How Many *** To Screw In A Lig
  2067. Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:03:18 -0500
  2068. Q: How many telepaths does it take to scew in a lightbulb?
  2069. A:
  2070. (Also, what do you call a Minbari floating dead in the ocean? A
  2071. minbuoy.)
  2072. jms
  2073. Subject: KCOP 13 (Was: Re: IMHO's on A
  2074. Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:17:45 -0500
  2075. In editing, we always left black and let an act end properly; we
  2076. were aghast at the clipping at the end of various acts. We think some
  2077. of it happened at the firm that drops in the national sponsor's
  2078. commercials.
  2079. jms
  2080. Subject: Something amusing waiting for
  2081. Date: 31 Jan 1995 01:08:59 -0500
  2082. "Who's the K?"
  2083. Easy...the Kook who came up with this idea.
  2084. jms
  2085. Subject: ATTN JMS: New PPG effects perm
  2086. Date: 31 Jan 1995 01:31:24 -0500
  2087. Kevin kind of got overtaxed with stuff; however, he is doing a few
  2088. things for us now here and there, and we're now using the same techniques
  2089. for the new PPG blasts, so it should look normal next time you see them.
  2090. jsm
  2091. Subject: ATTN JMS:What goes through you
  2092. Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:42:34 -0500
  2093. "What goes through your head?"
  2094. Wolverines, mainly.
  2095. Sundays we get possoms.
  2096. jms
  2097. Subject: JMS: Sheridan's lightbulb joke
  2098. Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:43:05 -0500
  2099. Actually, a number of people hit on the basic idea of the Minbari
  2100. surrender; there was some of this over on GEnie as well. It's really the
  2101. obvious joke. I went for it as well, and appended the last part to set it
  2102. apart.
  2103. jms
  2104. Subject: Race through dark places comme
  2105. Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:46:24 -0500
  2106. Also, bear in mind that Bester's parting shot in "Mind War" was
  2107. exactly that, in essence an "Up yours" but subtle. There was no reason
  2108. for that to be given to anyone in "Race."
  2109. jms
  2110. Subject: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  2111. Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:57:44 -0500
  2112. All TV series are in essence owned by the studio that produces them.
  2113. Hence, B5 is copyrighted and owned by Warner Bros./PTEN.
  2114. jms
  2115. Subject: JMS: Military model for Earthf
  2116. Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:58:06 -0500
  2117. Your analysis is not far off the mark. There's some of the
  2118. Stalinist approach, also some of the early Roman approach, where there
  2119. was a great deal of overlap between senators and the military. Because
  2120. of having to pull so many different traditions together, I also figure
  2121. it's kind of a hodge-podge, each division pulling for its own identity
  2122. which may or may not be somewhat obsolete by now.
  2123. jms
  2124. Subject: JMS: Repeats and Canonical Ep
  2125. Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:57:24 -0500
  2126. All episodes will tend to be repeated in original airdate order; but
  2127. this doesn't bother me particularly, since if the series can't survive
  2128. being viewed out of order, then it's flawed.
  2129. And yes, I believe they'll be picking up season 1's last reruns after
  2130. the end of season 2.
  2131. jms
  2132. Subject: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
  2133. Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:57:44 -0500
  2134. All TV series are in essence owned by the studio that produces them.
  2135. Hence, B5 is copyrighted and owned by Warner Bros./PTEN.
  2136. jms
  2137. Subject: Ellison, guns and breaking win
  2138. Date: 31 Jan 1995 22:20:25 -0500
  2139. The PPG is a jms addition, dating back to before the pilot.
  2140. jms