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- Date: 1 Jan 1995 04:56:39 -0500
- Subject: Signal/Noise in B5 and commerc
-
- The signal/noise problem was of particular annoyance during the first
- four or five episodes. We deliver on perfect D2 digital masters. We
- kept seeing problems on broadcast that weren't there upon delivery. We
- did a thorough investigation, and learned that the people contracted with
- by PTEN/Warners to handle stuff like closed captioning, and transferring
- film, and reformatting for commercials, and adding commercials, were
- using ANALOG tape, for starters, and sometimes, we discovered to our
- horror, USED STOCK.
-
- It took us some time to fully detail and investigate the situation,
- with the result that several people found themselves with new bodily
- orifices chewed into their anatomy. By about episode four or five it
- began to look substantially better.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 1 Jan 1995 05:03:55 -0500
- Subject: Attn JMS Credits cutoff!!!
-
- We're doing all we can on this, but the stations seem to do what
- they want.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 1 Jan 1995 19:51:53 -0500
- Subject: ATTN: JMS Orson Scott Card/En
-
- Haven't read that one, no.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 1 Jan 1995 19:52:04 -0500
- Subject: JMS: Re: B5
-
- What will we do for an encore after the mid-season biggies? Just
- what we've been doing all along...just keep cranking up the volume....
-
- jms
-
- Date: 2 Jan 1995 00:21:24 -0500
- Subject: JMS! PREVIEW IDEA: Add backsto
-
- Unfortunately, the B5 previews/promos are done in-house by PTEN, and
- they jealously guard their authority over them. They'd never let us do
- them.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 2 Jan 1995 04:19:06 -0500
- Subject: ATTN: JMS
-
- So many questions, so few answers I can give....
-
- 1) In theory, yes, Sheridan should be around for the rest of the arc.
- 2) O'Hare is currently doing network guest-starring roles that will
- give him broader appeal (for instance, playing a great bad-guy on a coming
- episode of the Cosby Mysteries).
- 3) Senator Hidoshi is out of office.
- 4) Background walla is done by the background walla group.
- 5) You won't see Minbar this season, but you will almost certainly
- see it the first part of next season. You will, however, see Centauri
- Prime this season.
- 6) Lots of things will go BOOM soon.
- 7) The mess hall food is pretty good.
- 8) The D.Duck poster came from Warners, when we arranged (after much
- negotiation) to get the rights to use his character. (This is the first
- series, apparently, given the rights to do so.)
-
- jms
-
- Date: 2 Jan 1995 21:52:08 -0500
- Subject: Origin of word "Vorlon"
-
- ...sounded cool....
-
- jms
-
- Date: 2 Jan 1995 21:52:15 -0500
- Subject: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Trekke
-
- First, so there's no error, I appreciate your effort here. But I
- still do disagree with your premise that "ST paved the way for B5." You
- can "stand by" your feeling as much as you want, but I was the one in the
- room with the network and studio execs telling me (and just about everyone
- else pitching SF space shows) that there was NO room in the marketplace
- for anything along these lines other than ST. Even when PTEN was launching
- B5, that was a concern stated by them over and over. There's what one
- feels SHOULD be correct, and there's what IS correct. This is the point
- where those two conflict.
-
- ST did not "legitimize SF drama for TV." Star Trek legitimizes and
- leads to more Star Trek. If people in Hollywood *really* felt the way you
- say, why has it taken *25 years* for another serious show like this to get
- made (again, leaving out Buck Rogers, which wasn't serious and frankly, to
- my mind, was only barely SF).
-
- We had to fight tooth and nail to get this show on the air, to
- overcome the ST shadow. We were told, specifically and repeatedly, that
- there IS no substantive interest in SF, and that ST isn't SF; ST is ST,
- and an interest in ST doesn't generally guarantee any kind of interest in
- another SF show. And certainly Paramount has done nothing but throw road
- blocks in front of us at every conceivable step of the way.
-
- I understand your feelings, and why you want to believe that your
- theory is true. But it simply isn't.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 2 Jan 1995 21:52:23 -0500
- Subject: The Hugo Awards: Opinions
-
- Far be it from me to try and influence people's opinions. Well, all
- right...six inches away...but I'd tend to agree on the selection of
- "Chrysalis" out of all the season one episodes to nominate. I still tend
- to think it was the best of the batch (though "Babylon Squared" and "Signs
- and Portents" come darned close.) Question, though: are we sure that
- "Chrysalis" falls into the eligibility period for nomination? I know
- there's a cutoff date at some point, though it's probably the year's end,
- so we should be okay.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 01:50:45 -0500
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
-
- Battlestar Galactica really isn't applicable to this discussion
- because 1) the "arena" under discussion has always been Earth in its future
- with humanity as a spacefaring civilization, which comprises 95% of all
- written SF, but had not been done on TV since Trek, and 2) Battlestar
- was really more of a Star Wars "homage" (he said politely), that has
- nothing to do with ST in *any* event.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 04:20:20 -0500
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
-
- You may want to convey to these individuals that Stewart also invited
- Doug to tea, something he wouldn't have done if he were just fibbing about
- his opinion to avoid a faux pas.
-
- In point of fact, we have had generally good relations with MANY
- of the actors involved with ST in one form or another. Rene Auberjenois
- (I know I just misspelled that, but it's late, nearly 1 a.m., and I'm
- too tired to go into the other room to get the right spelling) told both
- Mira Furlan, myself, her husband, and just about anyone else in sight
- that he's seen B5 and enjoys it immensely. We have had several actors
- involved with ST come by the B5 stages to look at the facilities and say
- hello. The actor who plays Quark (my apologies to the actor, but his name
- has just fallen out of my head) invited Peter Jurasik to a party at his
- place to comment on how much he enjoys the show.
-
- There is a small, vocal minority of Star Trek fans who hate B5 because
- it commits the ultimate crime for a show in Earth's future in space: it's
- not Star Trek. In some ways, I find it kind of amusing, along the lines
- of those in the 60s who said you could be a Beatles fan, or a Monkees fan,
- but not both. These are people who talk about Infinite Diversity in
- Infinite Combinations, but choose not to practice it. They are the same
- sorts of people who were Lost in Space fans, and derided and insulted Star
- Trek because they considered it a cheap knock-off of LiS. (And yes, there
- were loads of critics and viewers who said this, and wrote reviews that
- said this, and wrote to fan publications saying it.) They are people who
- applaud ST because it was the work of one man with a vision, in its
- beginnings...and deride B5 which is a different vision.
-
- What the actors, and the writers involved with Star Trek understand,
- that this small, vocal minority of ST fans do not, is that COMPETITION
- LEADS TO IMPROVEMENT. These are people who want to see their characters
- stretched to new areas, given more to do...writers who want to take
- chances in their scripts and be bold...who have for much of the run of ST
- been held back by the corporate types who don't *want* changes, who don't
- want to take chances...and that's why you have a situation where Riker
- stays first officer for *seven years*, which fans complain about, and which
- would be the end of ANY officer's career in the real military.
-
- Where I come from, science fiction is the literature of open
- mindedness. It *welcomes* new ideas, and new approaches, and different
- views of our past, present and future. Are they so insecure with Star
- Trek that they must attack Babylon 5?
-
- If they are truly Star Trek fans, then they must know and appreciate
- the work done by people like Harlan Ellison and David Gerrold and Dorothy
- Fontana and Walter Koenig and, lately, Peter David...people who have not
- been well treated by Star Trek of late. We have given them the respect
- that is due them, allowing the writers the chance they often did not have,
- to experiment and to grow. When Walter Koenig did his first Babylon 5
- episode, whenever he came to the table at lunch, those in the cast at the
- table would stand until he sat...common when junior officers are being
- joined by a senior officer.
-
- Dorothy, and David, and Walter, and Harlan, and others who were
- involved with the original Star Trek who have visited the set have said
- that they have only seen the atmosphere and warmth of this set on one
- other set in nearly thirty years...on the original Star Trek.
-
- Mark Hammil has come by the studio to pay his regards for the show;
- Leslie Stevens, co-creator/producer for The Outer Limits made a similar
- pilgrimage to say how much he enjoys the show, and how he feels that this
- is the future of where SF should be going in television.
-
- When we won the Emmy for Best Visual Effects for the first year in
- which we were eligible, it was the *first time* in six years that Star
- Trek had lost out. Now with a second Emmy, a Hugo nomination, an award
- from the Space Frontier Foundation for Best Vision of the Future, another
- award from the Cult TV convention in England (beating out NYPD Blue and
- DS9 for best new series)...we are being noticed. Even some reviewers who
- at first had the same disdain because we weren't Star Trek have begun to
- come around, and see us for what we ARE, not complain about what we are
- NOT. (Some complained in the beinning that we were just a rip-off of Star
- Trek: DS9, which since we were around in development for 5 years prior to
- DS9 is nonsense...and then when they tuned in, and saw that we weren't a
- ripoff, turned their noses up because we weren't doing things like they
- were done in Star Trek. I received mail and email from people complaining
- that we used hand-links when everyone KNEW that the REALITY of it was that
- in 200 years we'd be using the chest-pin communicators in Star Trek, "and
- every time I see you use this other thing, it breaks the illusion for me."
-
- Long story made short...we're *not* going away. We are telling a
- story, and we're going to tell that story until it's finished. If a few
- wish to be like the Lost in Space fans who refused to watch Star Trek
- when it came on, that's their right. Anyone who finds specific fault in
- an episode, and it IS a fault, not "Star Trek wouldn't have done it this
- way," that's also terrific. To not like a show simply because it isn't
- Star Trek is simple bigotry...and to them I can only say that Roddenberry
- would be *disgraced* by that attitude in people claiming to be fans of
- hsi work.
-
- jms
-
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 04:51:21 -0500
- Subject: Re: ST-TNG vs. B5 fans
-
- "And the ACTORS occupy the same universe as you, me, and jms."
-
- Hrmmm...haven't known many actors, have you?
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Novels canon?
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 15:50:18 -0500
-
- We're certainly exerting every effort to keep the novels (and the
- comic) canon. Ain't easy, but so far it's working.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: has comic been cancelled?
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 16:23:26 -0500
-
- The comic has not been canceled, and is doing very well.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart/
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 17:52:33 -0500
-
- Got no problem with somebody not liking B5. Not a one. My only
- problem is when you have a few people so determined to protect the
- integrity of their fictional characters and their allegiance to one show
- that they must assume Stewart or someone else is lying, which then
- DIMINISHES the person's integrity. It seems to me a little like the old
- Vietnam idea of burning the village to save the village. I'm perfectly
- happy to let ANYONE not like B5 *on its own terms*. It's only when the
- clique mentality sets in that I have a problem with it...and again, this
- applies only to a fairly small (but *very* loud) portion of ST fans.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 18:02:41 -0500
-
- To Laurie Antoniou: many thanks.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Season 2 filming
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 18:24:14 -0500
-
- We are currently shooting number thirteen, editing number 12, mixing
- number 10, doing the EFX on number 11. Seventeen scripts are currently
- finished.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 23:02:12 -0500
-
- Thanks for reminding me; quite correct, Michael O'Hare was invited to
- take (and did take) a tour of the set for one of the Star Trek movies; I
- guess it would've been Generations. He went, and was well received, and
- Shatner said he liked the show. (Though *there*, I suspect, it may have
- been more politeness, given the reaction as it was expressed to me. But
- I could be wrong.)
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Trekke
- Date: 3 Jan 1995 23:57:02 -0500
-
- "Do you really believe that the First Run Syndication business as it
- now stands would be as big as it currently is if ST:TNG had flopped (and
- do you honestly believe that Warner would have given PTEN a second
- thought, let alone Babylon 5, if TNG hadn't been such a success in First
- Run Syndication?" Phillip Sral
-
- A fair question which deserves a fair response. For starters, the
- syndie business is *not* "as big" as described in your message. So the
- premise is incorrect on the face of it. The majority of new syndicated
- drama series introduced in the last couple of years have flopped and have
- either already been canceled, or are shortly awaiting same. The only
- shows that have shown success at all have been the various Star Trek
- incarnations, Baywatch, and now B5. Virtually everything else has
- crashed and burned in syndication.
-
- Second, B5 is not part of first run syndication. It is part of the
- consortium formed jointly by Warners and a station group which was then
- targeted to become a network. (The new official Warners network will
- likely supplant and replace PTEN in a few years, after the contracts run
- out. How that will affect B5 is anyone's guess.)
-
- The movement into such new networks has nothing to do with the
- success OR failure of shows like and including Star Trek. There's this
- little thing called the new "fin/syn rules," which recently got changed
- drastically. As of the ruling a couple of years ago, networks can now
- own more of the product they put on the air. Virtually all of it, in
- fact. What does this mean? That CBS can broadcast mainly shows made by
- in-house CBS outfits, rather than contracting with, say, Warners or
- Universal or other studios.
-
- This frankly scared the hell out of the studios, whose major business
- is making TV. So everyone started running around looking for ways to
- create venues independent of the networks...i.e., *new* networks, owned
- wholly or partly by the studios themselves, who could then create their
- OWN monopoly. (Ain't big business wonderful?) Paramount, Universal,
- Warner Bros, (and Fox already there)...they're ALL getting into it. That
- was the single dominant reason why PTEN was formed. Sheer survival. Same
- with the Warners net, Paramount net, all the others.
-
- Networks need programming. All kinds programming. Dozens of shows
- were pitched to the PTEN executive committee, including B5. They chose
- this out of the rest of the pack *even though they were nervous about the
- perception that the market wouldn't sustain more than one such show*.
- They picked it for the simple reason that they liked it, and they
- believed in what we were going to try and do with the show. Two of our
- biggest boosters were the people behind the whole operation, Dick
- Robertson and Evan Thompson, who formed PTEN and from the start, really
- understood what we wanted to do with B5.
-
- ST was really either a) irrelevant to the process, or b) a hinderance
- to the process. I *know* you want to believe otherwise, and I do
- understand why, and I wish I could reinforce that because it doesn't
- change anything for us one way or another...but it simply didn't happen
- that way.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Season 2 filming
- Date: 4 Jan 1995 00:33:40 -0500
-
- Currently shooting "Hunter, Prey." Then, probably in this order,
- "And Now for a Word" (also jms), "Knives" (Larry DiTillio), "There All
- The Honor Lies" (Peter David), and then "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum" (jms).
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS-Centauri Jump Gates price?
- Date: 4 Jan 1995 00:33:50 -0500
-
- We opened up trade relations with them to partially pay for the
- time we leased on Centauri jumpgates, and provided other services (of a
- benign nature).
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Personal re: Chris Franke
- Date: 5 Jan 1995 02:32:40 -0500
-
- I genuinely have no idea if Chris is still doing "Mantis" or not; I
- know they're flailing right now in the ratings, and that they're making a
- lot of changes...basically, anything that ain't nailed down. (And anything
- that they can pry up ain't nailed down.) If one of those would be a
- change in composers, I wouldn't be at all surprised, given that scenario,
- but I honestly don't know one way or another; it's not something we tend
- to discuss. We talk B5 with Chris, period. I don't think the rest is
- any of my damned business.
-
- One rather wishes other people we both could name would adopt a
- similar philosophy....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart/
- Date: 5 Jan 1995 02:30:58 -0500
-
- Re: "...some B5 fans who act the same way," I think there are in
- general fewer of them, mainly because we haven't been on 25 years and
- become an icon. And I generally discourage it; on CIS in particular, and
- here, I've noted that there are good people working hard on ST, but are
- being held back from doing all they're capable of doing by the studio's
- franchise approach. They should not catch the rap for this; it's unfair.
-
- I should also mention that the most vociferous B5 viewers in terms
- of ragging on Trek are generally those who are disenchanted and angry ST
- fans who feel they've been let down, and have something now to compare
- the other show with. This unhappiness was there a LONG time before B5
- ever hit the screens.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
- Date: 5 Jan 1995 04:51:51 -0500
-
- My point sustains; getting a science fiction series on the air at
- all is mind-bogglingly difficult. Getting it past one season is damned
- near impossible. Of the series you named as examples of how SF has a
- market in TV -- Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica, V, Salvage, Matthew
- Star, Flash, Greatest American Hero -- how many of those made it to or
- past a second season? Though I'm kinda fuzzy on Buck (my brain has
- mercifully excised most memories pertaining to that one), and Battlestar
- had a *revised* show as another season...insofar as I can recall, those
- are ALL one-season wonders.
-
- We're still talking apples and oranges. The common question, the
- real killer, is "Is the market big enough to sustain two SF shows, and is
- there a market for SF at ALL?" *Getting* a show doesn't prove that there
- is a market for SF; it only proves that somebody's going to try it again
- to find out. If a show doesn't last, dies quickly, then that proves
- the market's dead.
-
- This is one of the blind spots in TV logic which pertains mainly to
- the two groups you mention, SF and westerns. If a cop show goes on and
- flops, nobody says there's no market for cop shows; *that* show failed.
- If an SF series fails, the interpretation is that there's no market for
- SF. Also, in general, hollywood perceives all SF as more or less the
- same; it doesn't take into consideration, if an SF series dies, if it was
- a GOOD SF series or a BAD SF series.
-
- Nowhere was this more true than with the V series (not the mini, the
- Kenneth Johnson stuff, which was great), where one of the producers told
- me, "As long as we have aliens and space ships and ray guns, we'll get
- the SF audience GUARANTEED; it's the mainstream we have to work at."
-
- To understand this whole area, you have to stop thinking like a
- viewer and start thinking like a network programming exec. (Start by
- lowering your IQ about 15 points.) If a series runs only 1-2 years and
- fails, everybody loses; the studio and network will never recoup the
- expenses of production because these days you generally need 80-100
- episodes of a series to syndicate it. Except for bargain-basement stuff
- like minimal fees for SciFi Channel reruns, you're dead. You're out
- MILLIONS of dollars.
-
- *NO AMERICAN SCIENCE FICTION SERIES OTHER THAN STAR TREK HAS GONE
- ON FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS SINCE LOST IN SPACE*. We're talking here
- twenty-four YEARS of failure (from a network/studio financial point of
- view). This does not exactly encourage them to think there's much of a
- market. Throw Logan's Run and Amazing Stories and the new Twilight Zone
- into the mix.
-
- By entering its 2nd year, Babylon 5 has already beaten the odds. If
- we get year three (oh, yeah, and Time Trax also didn't make it), then as
- far as I know, we'll be the first nominally-hard SF series other than
- Trek to do it in nearly a quarter-century. (I'm excluding X-Files from
- this only because I don't quite think it fits as science fiction; I'm not
- quite sure what to classify it as other than Really Weird Shit, and a
- truly *nifty* TV series. I love it.)
-
- There are an *awful* lot of studio and network people watching us
- very closely; if we can be the first to break the curse, proving that
- there is a market for SF outside Star Trek that can sustain long enough
- for the studio to make back its money, I think you'll finally begin to see
- a lot more of it...and frankly, I can't wait; the more competition, the
- more SF, the better.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Cortez- Awesome Ship Name!
- Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:57:00 -0500
-
- BTW, just to note a little something you might not notice in the
- show...we've adopted the tradition of putting the symbol for a given ship
- onto the bar in Earhart's, as many real contemporary officers' clubs and
- airforce/naval base clubs put the logos or markings of big planes or ships
- that come through there. The Cortez symbol is the most visible among the
- various emblems you can see in a shot of the bar in "A Race Through Dark
- Places." It comes at the moment we follow *another* old military tradition.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Syndication (Was: Re: JMS
- Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:57:08 -0500
-
- Your assessment of the situation is more or less correct; it was
- the Paramount Theaters chain that was eventually divested from Paramount
- proper, since the government decided that it constituted a monopoly and
- couldn't be allowed to continue. (Ironically, it was this divestment
- that, having made Paramount Theaters an independent operation, later helped
- ABC come into reality, as they were able to invest in the fledgling
- network during a time it was struggling. This was viewed as a smart move
- by many, since common wisdom said that this new TV thing was never going
- to take off in people's homes, due to the expense in running land-lines to
- individual homes, broadcast being marginal technology then. They figured
- there would be TV Theaters, where you could come and pay and see TV shows,
- boxing, sporting events, name it. Universal spent major bucks on this,
- and even showed a major boxing event just this way as a test. And now,
- of course, with satellites, and pay TV, and people gathering at sports bars
- to watch pricey events, we've come full circle.)
-
- (Why do I *know* all this stuff, when I can't retain what I ate for
- lunch yesterday?)
-
- Because studios had a monopoly, yes, they could force less obviously
- commercial films down the throats of theaters. That changed with the
- new rules. TV now, though, won't go through the same cycle, I think,
- because a) none of the networks are stupid enough to become total
- monopolies and invite the FCC in, and b) TV as a mass medium will always
- be more easily targeted by special interest groups.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Language on Bazaar sign i
- Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:57:17 -0500
-
- I'll have to look at it again, but I'm reasonably certain that the
- second line in the bazaar sign is Centauri.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS:Question on Production Sch
- Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:58:53 -0500
-
- We don't shoot in lots of 6 or 12; we shoot 22 episodes straight
- through. The order in which they are run, and the pauses in between, do
- not in ANY way reflect the time period in which they are made. We shoot
- straight through, with pauses for Christmas break, and to give our crew
- and cast a one-week hiatus on either side (usually between episodes 8
- and 9, and episodes 15 and 16), which helps keep them from burning out.
-
- You really have to shoot straight through, because of the vast
- amounts of money required to rent equipment, pay salaries for crew and
- cast, pay staff and other areas. Also, under Screen Actors Guild rules,
- if you hire someone for, say, 13 episodes, you must use them within a
- particular span of time. If you don't, you must pay them the balance of
- committed episodes by the end of that period. If you broke filming up
- as you suggest, you'd be in deep hock to your cast.
-
- And you really can't separate out SFX from shooting live-action;
- often you need to have the actors work with the effects in composite
- shots, and sometimes you need the effects to play on monitors visible on
- camera when you're shooting. All divisions are working at the same
- time, straight through. You need to have effects people around frequently
- while shooting; to make two separate sequences means you double the time
- period you have to pay your effects people.
-
- Here is the process of making B5 in metaphor...not only in terms of
- each season's production, but the history of this show overall.
-
- You hitch yourself to the front of a train. And you begin pulling.
- (In this case, I began pulling in 1987, but for purposes of the current
- discussion make that the start of each season.) Slowly, painfully, the
- train moves an inch. Then another. Gradually, over time, it begins
- picking up speed. For one brief instant there is an allowable moment of
- joy when both you and the train are going at the same, comfortable speed.
- Then it starts gaining on you, and you have to start walking faster, with
- the train bumping your heels, until finally you're running flat out,
- because you know that if you so much as stumble once, the train will roll
- right over you.
-
- Then the season ends, you get to catch your breath...and start it all
- over again.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Future Quest
- Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:59:03 -0500
-
- Basically, they asked if they could use our sets for a PBS program,
- and we said sure. Not much more to it than that; I think we allowed them
- the use of our stages without rental charge, since it's a worthy cause.
- They were allowed to choose which shots to use. I wasn't in the show
- because I wasn't asked to be. Doesn't matter either way; ain't doing this
- to get my mug on TeeVee. The lawsuits over nationally induced cardiac
- infarction ALONE would kill our budget....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS on Patrick Stewart/
- Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:59:11 -0500
-
- To Ted...unfortunately, syndication does not help gurantee any show's
- success, even requiring fewer ratings points. Most of the new dramas
- introduced in the last year or so in syndication have fallen by the wayside
- and have either been canceled, or are awaiting cancellation.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS:Question on Production
- Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:59:19 -0500
-
- RE: "a TV episode usually takes 10-16 days to make," (Kokko), not
- quite correct. We do the actual on-stage shooting in 7 days. (Most shows
- are shot anywhere from 6-9 days per episode.) Then it takes another week
- or so to edit, then the producers re-edit, then you spot the show for
- visual EFX and music, CGI is working, you mix the episode...the actual
- time required to physically make an episode once you begin principal
- photography is closer to 6-8 weeks.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: a filming question
- Date: 7 Jan 1995 03:20:53 -0500
-
- As I recall, Mira was not in prosthetics at the time, and was out of
- camera range even for when the shot gets shown in expanded letterbox form.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
- Date: 7 Jan 1995 03:22:02 -0500
-
- Just a note of clarification on the notice that TV frigntened the
- movie studios (that should be "frightened")...yes and no. In the beginning
- it mainly just frightened radio; Fred Allen (famous for the quote "TV is
- called a medium because it is neither rare nor well done") used to sport
- a button stating Stamp Out TV. The studios *loved* TV in the beginning;
- at the time when TV began to come out, the studios were suffering their
- worst years since the Great Depression. Universal Studios and Warner
- Bros. practically shut down altogether. The number of films being made
- was virtually nil. But they still had all these actors and writers and
- directors under contract, chewing up vast amounts of money at a time when
- the studios had zip coming in. So they quickly turned many of these
- people over toward making TV shows; this is one reason why so many of the
- early TV anthology programs had big-name actors...the studios were burning
- off expensive contractual obligations.
-
- Also, I'd suggest that serious SF was done prior to Forbidden Planet,
- including but not limited to Earth Vs. the Flying Saucers, The Day the
- Earth Stood Still (still one of the finest such films ever made) and many
- others.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re:
- Date: 8 Jan 1995 00:11:19 -0500
-
- In addition to the other good reasons for using Jupiter's moons
- that Nyrath stated, there's also the added element of energy (it's near
- Jupiter itself), and a base placed off Io would be somewhat more difficult
- to target from afar given the massive energy output from Jupiter, which
- would help mask things a bit.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
- Date: 8 Jan 1995 00:14:07 -0500
-
- The attribution to Ernie Kovacs of the "TV is a medium" line is
- incorrect. Ernie loved TV. Fred Allen hated it with a passion.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart/B
- Date: 8 Jan 1995 00:14:20 -0500
-
- On the other hand, if one follows the logic that a ship traveling is
- more likely to encounter danger than a stationary vessel, then one must
- now make the leap in logic that a bus traveling from New Jersey to
- Connecticut will have more dangerous incidents in 24 hours than New York
- City.
-
- Bear in mind the crucial difference here...the Enterprise has maybe
- seven hundred, a thousand or so members of the same service, chosen for
- compatibility. Babylon 5 has roughly two hundred and fifty thousand
- humans and aliens on board at any given moment, many from races where
- there is conflict between them. I think the latter is bound to produce
- more and broader-based danger than the other.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
- Date: 8 Jan 1995 01:34:32 -0500
-
- This to Frank Springall...we weren't *talking* about shows from
- other countries. We were addressing American-produced shows. Yes, we
- could drag Dr. Who in here, but that's not really the *point*. Doesn't
- mean that nothing produced outside the US is "interesting." Obviously it
- is. But that's simply not relevant to our discussion of the American
- television series, and how studios and networks *here* view the genre.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN: JMS Realistic Timescale
- Date: 8 Jan 1995 04:46:36 -0500
-
- I took a fairly conservative timeline; as was mentioned in "The Long
- Dark," as late as 2150 we were mainly confined to our own solar system,
- using sub-light cryogenic exploration ships on one-way missions to go
- further. We got to leap-frog several hundred years of technology when we
- met the Centauri in 2151, who let us lease time on their jumpgates, and
- sold us the tech to make and maintain our own. Had the Centauri or some
- other species not tripped over us, I think we'd still be driving around
- our own solar system for the most part by 2200, with maybe an excursion
- or two to our nearest star.
-
- The space program is currently logjammed, and if it doesn't get
- cleared up soon, we're going to be left in the dust, literally as well as
- figuratively. We have to get NASA off its image of two guys standing
- on a Martian hill planting a flag to communities of people working and
- living in space.
-
- The space shuttle was primarily designed as part of a link; space
- shuttle builds space station; space station is hub for mars mission and
- lunar colony; lunar colony is hub for more mars missions and mars
- colony. But we lost that thread, and now it's been relegated to being a
- high-tech ferry service.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Your views on trading cop
- Date: 10 Jan 1995 01:46:24 -0500
-
- I agree with the policy of "Don't ask, don't tell."
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: JMS: Patrick Stewart/B5/Tr
- Date: 10 Jan 1995 23:53:20 -0500
-
- Actually, there are a lot of resonances between the process of getting
- B5 on the air and getting the original Trek on. Both did considerable
- recasting after their pilots; both saw the series a full year after the
- first pilot (we kinda considered ep 1 of year 1 our second pilot); Trek
- ran into difficulty getting sold because of Lost in Space, and we had a
- hard time getting sold because of ST; when it went on the air, Star Trek
- was slammed by critics as being low-rent, cheesy, suited for saturday
- morning kiddie shows and nothing more than an attempt to cash in on Lost
- in Space, just as we got nailed by critics and charged with trying to cash
- in on ST; Trek was Roddenberry's singular vision, and B5 is another very
- singular vision, neither show a "committee" operation. There are more,
- but I think the point is there.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Of Hair And Bone
- Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:21:55 -0500
-
- When Delenn's structure changed, the epidermal layer on the head
- grew thinner; there is now a gap between the skin, and the bone which
- has grown out. Hair can be draped through it, or laid over it.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart
- Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:26:40 -0500
-
- BTW, just as a switch-back to the original thread here...might
- intest folks to know that Michael O'Hare was invited by some of Patrick's
- Fan Club Members to see "A Christmas Carol," Stewart's reading, went
- backstage, met Patrick...and was subsequently invited to make an
- appearance at a local meeting of Stewart's fan club, where he was invited
- to come up on stage by Stewart, where the two shook hands and lots of
- photos were taken.
-
- (At a recent convention, btw, Michael and Avery Brooks hung out
- together, had drinks, and discussed the hassles of being the commander
- of a space station....)
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Starfury as logo
- Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:26:51 -0500
-
- If we ever need a team name, I'll try to remember this....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Technomage Symbol
- Date: 11 Jan 1995 11:25:48 -0500
-
- No, actually, the technomage symbol (all of them, actually, including
- the ones on the wall) are all derivations, specifically altered, of old
- runes and the like. In some cases, we removed words and inserted
- mathematical symbols. The fiery symbol is all one piece, and is also an
- old rune.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Has season 2 been sold to
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:20:13 -0500
-
- I haven't got a clue.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Actor in Eyes?
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:06 -0500
-
- Don't recall off hand the name of the bartender, but it definitely
- wasn't Tim Choate.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Arc. Season II. Big Pict
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:19 -0500
-
- We could not film anything extensive with Michael because we don't
- shoot on the Warners lot, where there are facilities available. We went
- our separate ways around late April/early May or so, after we had stopped
- shooting. We're a small operation; when we make the series, we rent our
- equipment from Panavision, our lights from other places, sound equipment,
- some props...anything we don't rent goes into storage. Our entire camera
- crew -- ALL of them -- were off doing another project.
-
- I understand your feelings, but there are certain realities we have
- to work with, and if the cast is gone off either on vacation, out of the
- country, or on other projects (as all of them were), all of our crew is
- gone, and all of our equipment is gone, it's kinda hard to oblige your
- request to do scenes with these characters. We had none of this back in
- our hands until we began shooting again in August, by which time Michael
- had long been in New York pursuing other projects.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: B5 on WB Network?
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:34 -0500
-
- I would not count on B5 ending up on the Warners network; the two are
- very competitive (WB vs. PTEN), and WB is trying to form its own identity.
-
- And the ratings for B5 place it generally third in first-run dramatic
- syndication.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn: JMS. counterculture on B
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:34:46 -0500
-
- By 2259 the "counterculture" as we understand it is absolutely old
- fashioned and retrograde. Seems like everybody's working to get In, not
- be Out. Sort of an extreme gingrichification effect....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN: JMS - Is there only one
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:38:22 -0500
-
- The EA is the only government for planetary decisions; a few don't
- choose to subscribe back home, but then they're entirely cut out of from
- benefitting from star travel and other EA areas.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS:Season 3
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 04:38:34 -0500
-
- We'll probably get official word yes/no come April/May, though we
- will probably have some unofficial hints come February/March.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Diversity of B5 populace
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:30:20 -0500
-
- Babylon 5 is not like your local community, with as wide-ranging a
- bunch of residents, including children. It's more like an airport, and you
- don't generally see a lot of kids living at airports (unless you live in a
- community much different from mine). There are two kinds of people in
- general at B5...those who live and work at the station (security guards,
- maintenance, dockworkers, other support staf) and people passing through
- en route to other places, on stop-over. It's a place where you come to do
- business deals, staying over for a day or two, and then leaving. You
- wouldn't tend to bring your kids to something like that, and families
- passing through go right from one ship to another, usually in a hurry to
- make their flight.
-
- And we've had plenty of older characters, so your sweepin
- generalization is inaccurate, as are most sweeping generalizations. From
- June Lockhart to Michael Ansara to Walter Koenig to Jane Carr to many
- others, we've gone beyond the 35-49 age range you cite. We've also had
- many ethnic groups, and featured them; in fact, virtually ALL of the
- relationships (with I think one exception) have so far been from different
- ethnic backgrounds (Sinclair and Sakai, Talia Winters and Jason Ironheart,
- Dr. Franklin and Lockhart's daughter). We've used asian actors (doctors
- in medlab, the scientist in "Voice," Taro Isogi in "Spider," Sakai),
- hispanic actors (in "By Any Means," Dr. Maya Hernandez in "Believers,"
- Wanda DeJesus coming up in "Hunter, Prey"), and a lot of african american
- actors. We also populate all background shots with a wide mix of ethnic
- backgrounds.
-
- In short, we're already *doing* it. And we will continue to do more
- of it. (Why doesn't Ivanova have a Russian accent? Because she was raised
- overseas, and went to schools outside Russia, something we'll learn in a
- few episodes.)
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Re: B5 on WB Network
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:54:34 -0500
-
- B5 dropped a bit in the recent ratings you mention because they're
- a) our reruns, and b) the Chrismas period, during which everything falls
- off.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Spec script guidelin
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 18:54:56 -0500
-
- The spec script question is currently moot because we're full-up at
- this time.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Costume Questions...
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:28:00 -0500
-
- Argh; just sent my reply here to the wrong thread (read the Diversity
- in B5 thread). Brief version: leather all around, red piping to read
- better on camera, cleaner cuffs. The other reply is more detailed.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Diversity of B5 populace
- Date: 12 Jan 1995 19:30:02 -0500
-
- My original reply somehow got bumped back; the panels on the uniforms
- are always leather. Correct on the red piping and other changes; one of
- the problems with last season's uniforms was that they kinda blurred on
- camera, and the details went away. The piping helps the details to pop
- a bit better on camera. The cuffs were changed because in the old version,
- the leather cuffs caused the cuffs to gather, and never looked clean or
- crisp, which a real uniform would. So we changed it. I've been told what
- the rest of the uniforms are made of, but for the life of me can't recall
- just now.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Attn: JMS. counterculture
- Date: 13 Jan 1995 01:51:25 -0500
-
- This to Katherine Teague...you're among the first to pick up on a
- deliberate writer's choice in the writing of the series. In looking toward
- the period of B5, I tried to construct a society that had to come together
- on a planetary scale to fight a war for simple survival. My thinking was,
- "Okay, let's assume that formality has come back into vogue; clothes tend
- not to be revealing, lines are more streamlined or severe, people address
- each other or refer to each other formally ("Mr. Isogi," "Ms. Winters," and
- so on).
-
- I suppose a conservative could derive some satisfaction from this
- choice...though to quote Mephistophilis in "Faustus"......"Aye, think so
- still, 'till experience change thy mind."
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Season 3
- Date: 13 Jan 1995 20:58:23 -0500
-
- We'll know on a pickup come about April.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Why only one telepath?
- Date: 13 Jan 1995 21:21:35 -0500
-
- Actually, since there aren't that many telepaths around, they cost a
- LOT to lease. There probably should be more than one on B5, but the Corps
- hasn't gotten around to sending anybody else yet...so she's appropriately
- frazzled a lot of the time.
-
- Humans rarely do things the way they should, logically....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: I need to know if this is true
- Date: 13 Jan 1995 21:19:52 -0500
-
- Certainly, we're all big fans of Mark's work (currently enjoying him
- in Wing Commander 3), and should an opportunity come along, and a role
- good enough, we'd love to work with him. But at this moment, nothing is
- set.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN:JMS Stupid idea about KO
- Date: 14 Jan 1995 01:55:06 -0500
-
- Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Enjoying B5 is enjoying Life
- Date: 14 Jan 1995 01:58:39 -0500
-
- Thanks; and funny thing is, having seen the next batch of episodes
- as many as 20 times in the process of putting them together, I'm still as
- excited about them now as in the beginning.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: B5 & ZIMA
- Date: 14 Jan 1995 02:24:12 -0500
-
- There's no Zima on the show in BG because we just did it for funsies,
- and now having done it, it's over.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Release of series onto Laser d
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 00:56:42 -0500
-
- We do hope to have the (widescreen) disks out by summer or fall, once
- we finish re-transferring all the film stock back to its original format.
- The pilot can't be released in a producers' cut since it never existed in
- film, only in computer-image form on the Avid editing system. To do the
- full film would require completely re-editing the film and re-scoring, and
- we don't have the resources or budget for that.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Starfuries on patrol.
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 00:56:32 -0500
-
- The starfuries were deployed from lunar bases, also from carriers
- that dropped everything they had.
-
- Since this was a last-ditch effort, there was no point in keeping
- reserve starfuries on-board, and the big ships still made huge targets.
- This was almost entirely an offensive maneuver, not defensive. You pop
- everything you've got, figuring that probably nobody will make it back.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATT JMS: Instantaneous Communi
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:31:30 -0500
-
- Tachyon-based transmission systems.
-
- That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: - JMS on Patrick Stewart
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:42:38 -0500
-
- To the best of my knowledge, NONE of the ST actors have any problem
- with any of the B5 actors, and vice-versa. Much as some divisive fan
- would, as you say, like their characters to reflect their own feelings,
- the reality simply isn't there.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Murder, He Wrote? (Re JMS)
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:46:59 -0500
-
- Correct; I was a writer/producer on MURDER, SHE WROTE for two years,
- and wrote something like 10-12 episodes (I don't remember exac
- offhand). For the last 2 weeks or so, USA network has been hitting the
- seasons I worked on, so my name has been there a lot lately.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: B5 & ZIMA
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 01:47:14 -0500
-
- Tagging this here because I don't know where else to tag it...I just
- got a GEnie note saying that approximately 100 letters from the Internet
- gateway never got to me; many are just rec-arts, but there's also on the
- list headers from a4jinna, roland@festival, TrboTurtle, dd36+, northrup@
- chuma, anewton, brauchfu, and others. Just a warning...stuff does get
- munched sometimes.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Three Edged?
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:50:13 -0500
-
- The metaphor functions on several levels: 1) in any argument, there
- is your side, and the other side, but if you're ever going to get past
- that and find agreement, or understanding, you must be open to a third
- idea, a compromise or intercession. 2) a real three-bladed or three-edged
- sword creates a wound that does not close again; knowledge, once received,
- and understood, is permanent and changes you forever.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Do Doctors Still Speciali
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:56:33 -0500
-
- Negative; your assumption is incorrect. Dr. Franklin is chief of
- staff of the medlab facility, and has been introduced as such. We have
- seen many other doctors, from Dr. Maya Hernandez to the asian doctor
- brought in to help save Garibaldi in "Chrysalis." There are probably
- about 100-150 doctors on B5, and we'll be showing more of them as we go
- on in the show.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Jovian moons
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 19:54:53 -0500
-
- I think we'll probably get around to showing more of the Jovian
- moons one of these days.
-
- We're also taking advantage of some of the recent Hubble photographs
- to scan them and use them as backgrounds in some far-space shots; there's
- one in "The Coming of Shadows," for instance. Real space is *very* nice
- looking in places.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn JMS -- "Producer's cut" S
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 20:23:49 -0500
-
- The various drafts of the script have all the missing scenes, and may
- in time become available directly through Babylonian Productions along
- with other scripts. The computer images are too grainy to ever be used
- in any kind of laserdisk or tape, very low-res.
-
- The whole issue of the pilot still rankles me, on a personal level.
- I was still fairly new to executive producing, and was more prone to just
- accept the word of the director or the editor that this was as good as the
- cut would get, this was how it should stay. I didn't speak up on some of
- my concerns, didn't just go in and re-edit the whole damned thing the way
- I felt I should have. It was my error, and there's no one else to blame
- for it.
-
- I've learned since to trust my instincts. So when John Copeland and
- I go in to edit the episodes, we edit these things so tight they scream.
- In retrospect, I probably could've fit in about 18 minutes of the 20
- or so minutes we ended up cutting, by judicious editing, line-cutting,
- and just picking up the pace of the thing in every scene. It's one of
- those, "If I knew then what I know now..." situations.
-
- If we had the budget to re-edit the damned thing, which alas we
- don't, I can assure you it would be a VERY different-looking movie.
-
- My fault. Nobody else's.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Murder, He Wrote? (Re JMS)
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 22:25:11 -0500
-
- We had one of the M,SW directors over recently, and he mentioned that
- Angela, as with you, considers "The Committee" to be the best episode of
- the series. I'm inclined to agree that it was probably one of the best
- scripts I did for the show, though I'm also particular toward "The Wind
- Around the Tower" and parts of "Incident in Lot 7."
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 22:23:25 -0500
-
- "Not to cast aspersions on the physique of JMS, but he's not the
- youngest buck in the forest, forest, nor the sveltest. What if he dies?"
-
- HEY! I'll have you know I'm just 40 years old, and at 6'5" I'm maybe
- ten pounds more than I should be. Granted it all seems to have settled in
- one or two places, but I attribute that to the gravitational influence of
- a pinhole black hole that must have drifted past recently.
-
- As to the question, "What if he dies?"...what happens is that they
- come and pick me up, bring me to the nearest mortuary, I'm autopsied,
- needles are inserted in my heel and elbow, the blood is removed from my
- body, embalming fluid is subsequently pumped in, I'm dressed in an
- ill-fitting suit, displayed briefly (against my wishes), shoved into a
- crematorium, my remains are transferred to ash, and I spend THE NEXT TEN
- THOUSAND YEARS HAUNTING YOUR ASS FOR ASKING A MORBID QUESTION LIKE THAT!!!
-
- All my notes are triple-encrypted. Only I know the password. So it's
- in the best interests of EVERYBODY to keep my ass ALIVE for the next 3.5
- years.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Personal Query from JMS
- Date: 15 Jan 1995 23:14:49 -0500
-
- For a while now, I've been trying to find some old friends with whom
- I've lost all contact. Given the resource here, and the theory that we
- are all only 6 people away from anybody else...I thought I'd try it here.
- If anybody should know how to contact the following people, if y'all
- could send me a note I'd be greatly appreciative.
-
- Liz or Elizabeth Ochoa. Last known to be in San Diego. Red hair,
- Basque background. Rose tattoo on left wrist. Resided in San Diego from
- 1978 through 1981, had a 4-year old son named (I believe) Justin (who
- would now be about 19). Liz would be roughly 39-40 years old.
-
- Colleen Carnevale, also from San Diego, same age range. Blonde, and
- formerly, through her father, a member of the San Diego Yacht Club. She
- worked at the Whaley House up through about 1979, and worked as an
- Orientation Counselor at SDSU through about 1978. May be married now.
-
- Joanne Massie, formerly a high school teacher at Chula Vista High
- School, 1972. Last I'd heard she had moved to Texas around 1975.
-
- (Mrs. Massie was the one who got me into writing when I was just a
- kid, gave me the chance to follow my abilities.)
-
- Joe or Joseph Trez, 40-41, resident of Matawan, New Jersey in about
- 1970. Nothing since.
-
- Sherily Mattarocci, roughly 34, may now be married with a different
- name. Formerly from Bonita, California. (Oops, make that Sherilyn, not
- Sherily.)
-
- Marcus Manecke, former cult member (Children of God), 42-44, lived
- in religious commune (unrelated to CoG) in Chula Vista through 1978, may
- now be living in the New England area. He was also a musician.
-
- Any info should be sent via private email. These are all friends,
- just would like to find out whatever happened to them. Thanks.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Attn JMS -- "Producer's cu
- Date: 16 Jan 1995 04:50:59 -0500
-
- It's a wonderful idea, and a kind suggestion, but it would have to
- come from Warners; a fundraiser wouldn't work. Maybe someday....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Outer Limits on Showtime: Whic
- Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:28:02 -0500
-
- The Outer Limits series will not be remakes for the most part, though
- I hear they may consider one or two. Demon will definitely not be among
- them. I had great hopes for OL, because I'd like to see some good SF
- being done on cable, but I don't think so...first, they dumped Joe Stefano
- and Leslie Stevens, froze them out of the show, pretty cold thing to do
- to the producer/writers who created the thing (legal maneuvering now
- complete, I understand, and they'll finally get their proper credit on
- the show)...Michael Cassutt finally bolted from the show as primary
- writer/producer a while ago, wanting nothing more to do with it....
-
- When B5 went on hiatus over the summer, the new OL team -- the same
- people who brought you Space Rangers -- called me in to become a consultant
- or producer on the show, even though they knew it'd mean dividing my time
- (which was why consultant was better). I met with them, and saw a
- breakdown of the stories they were planning to do. I can't remember the
- last time I was so completely appalled. I felt I could have nothing to
- do with the show in any way, manner, shape or form; I felt they had NO
- understanding of what the Outer Limits was supposed to be.
-
- Here's just ONE example of the stories they were putting forth (and
- I feel that I can quote this one because I know it didn't get used, for
- the singular reason that Cassutt, when he came aboard, insisted that it
- NOT be done, having the same horrified reaction that I did. But it's
- nonetheless emblematic of the rest of the stories.
-
- A guy's hang-gliding. Caught by a wind, he rises higher and higher
- until he passes out from lack of oxygen. Comes to descending toward a
- military base. He's captured by American soldiers, put in a cell...and
- in the cell across from him...is John F. Kennedy, who *didn't* die when
- the assassin's bullet hit his head. He was cryogenically suspended until
- he could be fixed up. Now this has been done, but Kennedy insists that
- they won't release him. Together, the two manage to escape...at which
- point the guy discovers that the reason that they had him in a cell was
- that Kennedy came through the surgery a homicidal maniac determined to
- destroy the world...and now it falls to this guy to kill Kennedy a
- second time.
-
- Go ahead...guess what the guys' last name just *happens* to be.
-
- Yep. Oswald.
-
- I told the producers, "If you do this story, the entire american
- viewing public will descend upon your offices, drag you out into the
- street, slap two telephone poles together and crucify you. And I will
- personally hand them the nails."
-
- So we'll see...I don't know how much Cassutt was able to deter them
- from their path, especially since he bolted, which means he probably
- wasn't able to do much. I'll take a look at it, because hope endures in
- the face of reason...but I think this is gonna be problematic.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn: JMS
- Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:24:46 -0500
-
- We'll work this into dialogue to make it clearer....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Intelligence at the "rim"
- Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:55:43 -0500
-
- You won't have to wait for future seasons to find out what's going
- on out on the rim; you'll have a pretty good picture of it before the
- end of THIS season.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: - JSM & The Arc -
- Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:55:30 -0500
-
- Wow, what a detailed analysis....
-
- Okay, some good thoughts here. Quick responses.
-
- The best way to approach this is to discuss my approach to writing in
- general. I've now written two published novels, and have a third ready to
- be written as soon as I have six months to a year to spare (i.e, not for
- a while yet). My structure is always very tight on these things, in the
- sense that I plan out the basic *spine* of the novel. I know I'm starting
- at point A, I want to end at point Z, and I want to hit a certain number of
- spots along the way. Then I start writing. Once I've committed to that
- STRUCTURE, everything else becomes expendable or fluid. I've ha
- background characters suddenly lurch into the foreground, and major
- characters (or characters I *thought* would be major) fall into the
- background. Sometimes, while chugging along the structure highway, I'll
- see something interesting just off the main road, and I'll go poke around
- in there for a while.
-
- Basically, I like being *surprised*. And I think, in general, that
- readers do as well. At no time do I diverge from where I want to go; the
- spine never alters. But the details are absolutely fluid.
-
- When I write an episode, I do exactly the same thing. I *HATE* to
- outline; I think it freezes the story too much. So in general I just sit
- down at the keyboard, knowing the title of the episode, the primary
- incidents that have to happen, and a few character moments, and stgart
- writing. And things suddenly occur to me, I get surprised by moments when
- the characters turn to me and say, "Hey, stupid, don't do THAT, do *THIS*."
- And I go where they tell me. The result is that the scripts I write tend
- to be VERY tight: they go where they're going, and move like a house
- afire...BUT there's the real sense that ANYdamnedthing can happen at any
- moment, because I'm not locked in.
-
- The same applies to the series overall. I know *exactly* where the
- series is going, the final denouement, the benchmarks of each season, and
- have brief synopses on most of the episodes. But you have to be open to
- surprises, have to allow yourself to be pulled one way or another on the
- details, otherwise you get predictable, and you lose the spark. Also,
- the reality is that actors are human; there can be contract disputes,
- health problems, any number of things...so there have to be trap doors
- built into the storyline for *every single one of the characters* without
- exception.
-
- The closest comparison, I suppose, would be doing a story about
- World War II. The individual pieces can move around, people can come and
- go, live or die, suddenly be revealed to be counterspies...but the basic
- progression, the storyline of the war, is not changed. (Unless you're
- doing alternate history, which we're not.) When I write, I basically
- carry the whole storyline in my head, and I run the episode through that
- to make sure that it all parses.
-
- It's as if you've flashed back in time to WW II, and you're in a
- battalion going into Normandy Beach. You know that in the long run, the
- Allies will win the war...but you look around at the other people in
- the landing craft with you, and you have no idea which of them is going
- to make it through to the end. One is set. The other is fluid.
-
- The final destination of the story, and the chief points along the
- way...none of that has altered so much as an inch. Within that structure
- I may move some elments up, push some back; you have to find the *feel* of
- the story as you write it, something you can't prepare for until you're
- actually writing it. But the structure remains, giving me freedom to
- roam where I want...if I decide to kill off one of the three really major
- human characters in year three (and I'm NOT saying I'm planning on it, I'm
- just discussing hypotheticals), I can do it, and the overall storyline
- isn't touched.
-
- A destination may be fixed on the horizon...but sometimes the most fun
- you have is getting lost from time to time on the way there.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Intelligence at the "rim"
- Date: 16 Jan 1995 21:55:43 -0500
-
- You won't have to wait for future seasons to find out what's going
- on out on the rim; you'll have a pretty good picture of it before the
- end of THIS season.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn JMS: Have You Read Pohl's
- Date: 17 Jan 1995 02:20:12 -0500
-
- I've missed a fair amount of Pohl's work, including the "heechee"
- stuff...but in any event, the shadows are all mine.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:23:55 -0500
-
- Re: writing "The Quality of Mercy" while half-dead with the flu...my
- staff knows well enough to *never* get between me and a script. As Vir
- says, the consequences would be *profoundly* unfortunate.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Sinclair leaving B5
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:28:46 -0500
-
- That story is absolutely, 100% bogus, and is one of a number of
- destructive, false rumors floating around right now. When we were
- contemplating what to do with the role of Sinclair, we called Michael
- in, and we talked about it. Nobody sent anybody a letter saying
- you're outta here. That's a flat-out lie, nothing less, and whoever
- told you (Chris) this is either misremembering or deliberately giving
- out false information. Nor have there been any problems between the
- company and Michael. This is claptrap, nothing less.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: UK con appearance
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:30:33 -0500
-
- Unfortunately I don't have the info on the UK con in April in
- front of me, it's at the office. I can remember such things for only
- about 20 minutes when my brain seizes up and flushes the info. There
- have been inquiries about attending the Wolf 359 convention later in
- the year, but thus far I've heard nothing formal from the convention, or
- specifics on how this would be worked out. Be assured that there will
- probably be lots of info on this other con well before the April event
- (I keep thinking it's not far from Stratford-upon-Avon...).
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Londo's Spots?
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:35:20 -0500
-
- Insofar as I know, the spots are still there; sometimes theyre
- (they're) more visible than other times, depending on lighting.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:23:43 -0500
-
- I'M FINE! DO YOU HEAR ME!? I'M ABSOLUTELY, BLOODY, BOLLICKY,
- BUGGERY JUST PERFECTLY AND ABSOLUTELY ****FINE!!!**** I'VE NEVER BEEN
- BETTER, I'M FINE...I'M....I'M.....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH.......
-
- ....................................................<thunk>
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Sheridan's name: Bla
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:48:44 -0500
-
- Just coincidence in the name; he destroyed the Black Star, hence
- Starkiller.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Outer Limits on Showtime:
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:48:32 -0500
-
- Basically, I hated everything about the story...it was one of the
- old "three word endings" that are symptomatic of bad SF ("The killer's...
- OSWALD!"), it destroys the Kennedy image for NO reason, it's a dumb
- idea, it has no dramatic progression of any kind...it's just a dumbness.
-
- I like alternative history stories as much as anybody; this one just
- was awful.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Death and Dyin <reprisal>
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:07 -0500
-
- Re: the fate of any possible actor on the show...like I said, I've
- built in trap doors for everybody on the show with one fairly obvious
- exception. (Viz: me.)
-
- Hey, I've *read* Scherezade (though I can't spell it for squat); I
- ain't no fool.
-
- As for "all this attention"...you're still talking mainly about the
- online community; the majority of the American public still doesn't know
- the show even *exists*.
-
- But we're getting there.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: B5 mention in Akron Voyager Re
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:17 -0500
-
- Would love a copy of the clip; can you send it to me via:
- 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423? Much
- appreciated.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Request: Rowan Atkinson on B5
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:27 -0500
-
- Would *love* to see Rowan do the show sometime; also Tom Baker,
- Meatloaf, Alice Cooper, John Cleese.....
-
- Maybe someday.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Episode list for winning new c
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:39 -0500
-
- I'd omit "War Prayer" and put in "The Parliament of Dreams."
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 01:58:49 -0500
-
- (To Jim Batka...thanks.)
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Stun Settings?
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 02:23:11 -0500
-
- Yes; a PPG shoots superheated helium at high velocity. You coul,d
- (could) lower the heat on the plasma, but still kick it out at the same
- velocity, so it wouldn't do as much damage, provided it didn't hit any
- exposed skin.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 05:21:08 -0500
-
- "Do we play taps now, or just space 'im?"
-
- (Go ahead, laugh...my hard disk gets cremated WITH me!)
-
- jm<thunk>s
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:07:43 -0500
-
- I hope to make this my last message on the subject, in hopes that this
- topic will finally...er...die off. It's really kinda morbid when you're
- on this end of the modem.
-
- Bottom line...it ain't a matter of making sure somebody gets my notes
- on the overall storyline. If you're a painter, you can give someone your
- notes on how to finish the painting in case something happens, but it won't
- be done *exactly* the way you would want it. So better to leave it
- unfinished, with that part which *is* finished being 100% what you wanted
- it to be, than let it be completed by others, and not necessarily as well.
-
- This show has to be done exactly, a certain way, or it won't be what
- I *want* it to be. My notes are for my own use. Maybe that sounds selfish
- or self-indulgent. Maybe it is. There are lots of writers out there as
- good or better than I am. That ain't the problem. Give 10 writers the
- same basic parameters and you'll get 10 different stories. This is my
- story. And where I go, it goes.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: The Crucible: ST vs. B5
- Date: 18 Jan 1995 20:08:11 -0500
-
- Bruce's thoughts in this thread are about the most cogent analysis of
- B5 (theme and direction) I've yet seen, insofar as these elements are
- concerned. Very precise.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: PTEN contact info?
- Date: 19 Jan 1995 02:18:06 -0500
-
- Correct; Dick Robertson is President of Domestic TV for Warners, is
- at the address noted in your message, and is the one to continue to
- receive any good wishes for the show.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 19 Jan 1995 03:25:59 -0500
-
- "How about if I found out I have terminal cancer and am going to die
- in one month. Will you tell me how B5 is going to end?"
-
- My condolences to your survivors.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Inspiration???
- Date: 19 Jan 1995 22:38:50 -0500
-
- I'd have to say no, the Prisoner didn't inspire me in creating B5. I
- enjoy the show, and nod toward it as a milestone in SF history, maybe the
- best show made to date, but inspiration on this....no.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: B5 CREATOR COMMENTS ON VOY
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 02:14:37 -0500
-
- "If memory serves, this is the first real praise (jms) has for ST.
- I think he is gaining real confidence about his own show."
-
- I think you're trying to connect two unrelated things. 1) I have
- always had confidence in my own show, or I wouldn' be here. 2) Up until
- now, minus some good things in TNG, there hasn't been very much noteworthy
- (imo) *about* ST that I could say. Now there is.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN AWK:Starfuries the only E
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 04:35:41 -0500
-
- Obviously humans and the EA have other kinds of attack vessels; but
- the Starfuries are the ones most apt for protecting the station; it's a
- general purpose craft...not much use around Epsilon 3 for bombing runs.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn JMS: did show concept cha
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 11:14:27 -0500
-
- There was never any intention whatsoever of doing B5 within the
- context of the Star Trek universe. It was always intended as a wholly
- original concept. It was taken to a half dozen or more studios, and
- that included Paramount, yes, but Paramount doesn't just do Trek. I never
- wanted to tell this story in the ST universe because it *couldn't* be told
- there; the rules that confine story areas simply wouldn't let it happen.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN: JMS 2 questions.
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 17:36:34 -0500
-
- I've picked several middle-names for Sheridan; now I'm waiting to see
- which he grows into. And to send stuff, send it along to me via:
- 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Props question.
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 17:46:10 -0500
-
- Links are held on in the real world with a non-abraisve chemical
- used to hold prosthetics; comes off fairly easily, doesn't pull hairs,
- doesn't cause long-term problems.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Book?
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 18:10:54 -0500
-
- What I'll do years down the road is beyond my contemplation; I know I
- have enough material for several books, but whether they get written is
- anybody's guess.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Will you sign my B5 comic
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 19:59:29 -0500
-
- With a SASE, just to make it more guaranteed that I'll send it back,
- yes.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn JMS: irony is our friend
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 20:34:50 -0500
-
- Yeah, I don't doubt that Majel took some swipes at B5 (which show was
- that, btw?).
-
- She's long been very frangible about the whole issue. I think she
- doesn't like having her monopoly in any way threatened.
-
- Here's an example of how Majel is, which can be confirmed by others
- online who were there: when I went to debut the B5 pilot at Wishcon, she
- had the presentation right before mine. I had just under two hours to
- show the pilot, with maybe fifteen minutes of intro and technical setup.
- She was due to leave the stage at the top of the hour.
-
- After me, was scheduled the auction to raise money for terminally
- ill children, the purpose of the whole con. Remember that.
-
- So the top of the hour came. Majel didn't surrender the stage. Ten
- minutes after. Fifteen. Twenty. People began indicating for her to
- leave. She refused. She looked in my direction, said, "I see him back
- there, I know he's here," and kept *right* on talking. And talking.
-
- Finally, round about the half-hour mark, she finally stopped. So
- now there was NO time for any discussion from me at all, and even if we
- ran through the tech setup as fast as possible, we would still cut deep
- into the auction. It was a clear and obvious attempt to sabotage the
- showing, in front of a couple hundred witnesses. Though she has been
- known to go a bit over from time to time at other cons, her reference to
- me, and the length of the overage, clearly showed it was intentional.
-
- I told the convention people that I would be willing to only show the
- first hour of the pilot (its first screening anywhere), maybe try to find
- a time in the evening to show the rest. They insisted: show the whole
- thing, and we'll just take it out of the auction. Nonetheless, I kept my
- introductory comments as brief as possible, showed the pilot, and rather
- than keep the room tied up longer, crammed everybody who wanted to talk
- about it into a smaller room down the hall.
-
- Later, several people from the con confronted Majel with this, as
- she was signing autographs. They asked her point-blank if she'd done
- this *deliberately* to try and screw B5. She just smiled. Didn't matter
- that in the long run, her actions would just end up hurting the cause of
- aiding terminally ill children. Later, due to a lot of people being very
- upset by her behavior, she offered to write a note apologizing. Suffice
- to say it was never written.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: NetGhoddess Meriday's Portrait
- Date: 20 Jan 1995 21:45:49 -0500
-
- That's a great portrait, Mike. BTW, I very much enjoyed Wizard of
- Speed and Time, and wish things could have gone better over the long
- haul.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: you knew this was coming.
- Date: 21 Jan 1995 00:25:57 -0500
-
- I understand the reason behind such suggestions, but at the same time
- I don't want to be getting hundreds of these things in the mail to sign.
- So case by case.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Defense Grid: big PPG's or pro
- Date: 21 Jan 1995 03:52:48 -0500
-
- A current reply on the makeup of the defense grid would be obsolete
- within the next 3 new episodes, so I'll defer until then.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Diplomacy questions
- Date: 21 Jan 1995 03:52:37 -0500
-
- There are various embassies and diplomatic missions on various
- worlds (Earth has the most; Universe Today had a story about a Minbari
- embassy being bombed). Because space on B5 is so tight, complete offices
- for every single ambassador would kill most of the available space; so
- they have access to the station's facilities for business rooms, meeting
- rooms, conference rooms and the like.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN, JMS: DEMON GLASS HAND II
- Date: 21 Jan 1995 19:50:45 -0500
-
- Right now, we're moving fast toward accellerating and escalating the
- events of the overall arc, and having a hard time determining how to fit
- in a stand-alone in the last batch of episodes, so this may hav to wait.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Starfury Model Kit?
- Date: 21 Jan 1995 19:49:04 -0500
-
- I keep waiting for a deal to get made for models...I think it'd be
- great....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Season 2 Finale title?
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:29:21 -0500
-
- I have several titles for the last episode of this season; won't know
- which fits best until I get there in the writing. One possible title is
- "A Fall of Night," but I may not go with that one.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn. JMS: Flashbacks?
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:29:40 -0500
-
- I don't like loose threads hanging around, so all this will get tied
- up. In some cases, we'll see flashbacks to stuff that happened "around the
- corner," so to speak, and in others we'll have dialogue explanations. WE
- get the scoop on what question Delenn asked Kosh (via Lennier) before this
- season is out.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Outer Limits on Showtime:
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 01:29:06 -0500
-
- The season of Twilight Zone that I story edited and wrote for (about
- 11 episodes or so) is in syndication currently, so may be showing up in
- your area somewhere. We did some nifty stuff, I think....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Chicago Convention from jms
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 03:16:11 -0500
-
- For those who haven't haerd...there is going to be a major convention
- in Chicago on June 24th and 25th; particularly major for Babylon 5. Guests
- appearing at the convention include me, Michael O'Hare, Mira Furlan, Bill
- Mumy and Richard Biggs. This is the biggest gathering of B5 people since
- a surprise appearance at the San Diego Comic Con the summer we went on with
- the series.
-
- It's called The Big Bang Convention, and the other guests include Mark
- Hamill, John deLancie, Robert O'Reilly and others. Admission is $35 for
- general attendence (per day), $150 for VIP tickets, and $250 for Deluxe
- VIP. I'll be giving a seminar as part of the program for prospective
- television/film writers...a Q&A structure, not a workshop where scripts
- will be evaluated.
-
- The hotel is the Courtyard By Mariott in Elmhurst, with the con held
- at the Odeum in Villa Park. The VIP pass includes the writing seminar,
- an acting seminar (both are, I believe, also available to non-VIP guests
- for a small fee, around $20), a gambling riverboat outing with con guests,
- hotel accommodations for both nights, and other stuff.
-
- It's my understanding that the tickets for this convention are now
- available through Ticketron. They expect something on the order of
- 15,000 people to show up for this one. I understand they're also doing
- some performance stuff between guests, and are working hard to make this
- a real Event.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: X-Files win is good for B5
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 07:41:58 -0500
-
- X-FILES won the Golden Globe for Best Series?! No shit!? That's
- absolutely terrific. I hadn't heard this. Definitely deserved.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Question from a Trekker
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 07:38:06 -0500
-
- Jeffrey...this is just a question, not a flame. You say you wrote
- off B5 after one episode. How long did you give the first two ST series
- to get their sea-legs?
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Licensing & merchandise questi
- Date: 22 Jan 1995 09:08:51 -0500
-
- B5 stuff has been selling well for all our licensees. I've been told
- that Creation has come back to license more stuff. I don't know how much
- ink All-U has been getting on its shirts, but I haven't head anything.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Suger Ray Robinson on Babylon
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:49:34 -0500
-
- It was Larry's idea to name the character Walker Smith, after Sugar
- Ray Robinson.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Chicago Convention from jm
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:50:18 -0500
-
- Nothing slated for the Detroit area that I'm aware of.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Sinclair in Twilight Zone
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:50:39 -0500
-
- Actually, the doctor's name was St. Clair, not Sinclair, but it
- sounds like that...it's visible in the credits, though.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Chicago Convention from jm
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 00:49:57 -0500
-
- I'll probably bring the blooper reel, a music video or two, and an
- unaired episode.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Chicago Convention from jm
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 04:18:40 -0500
-
- To Howard Shubs...the Big Bang Convention is most emphatically NOT a
- Creation Convention, has nothing to do with Creation, and has stated an
- intention to do a very different kind of con unique to their approach.
- The one is totally unrelated to the other.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Homosexuality argument
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 04:16:51 -0500
-
- ARE YOU PEOPLE ALL STILL ARGUING ABOUT THIS STUFF?
-
- OKAY, THAT'S IT. EVERYBODY CLEAR OUT. EVERYBODY OUTTA THE POOL. I
- DON'T WANT THIS JOINT BASHED UP AND BEAT UP EVERY TIME SOMEBODY DRAGS THIS
- ARGUMENT OUT OF THE CLOSET! THERE'S GOTTA BE AN ISSUES FORUM SOMEWHERE!
-
- IT'S LIKE THE GODDAMN DRAZI...EVERY FIVE YEARS YOU DIVIDE UP INTO TWO
- CAMPS AND BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA EACH OTHER! AND AS IVANOVA SAID, "GRANTED
- THE OTHER RACES WOULDN'T *MIND* IF YOU KILL ONE ANOTHER, EVEN THEY WOULD
- PREFER YOU DID SO *QUIETLY*."
-
- Okay? Take it outside, people.
-
- I don't care who's wrong, I don't care who's right, I don't care
- who had the last word or who got offended last. Take it outside.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Please verify about
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 04:51:37 -0500
-
- Keffer wasn't added because fans thought that sending the commanding
- officer into battle was inappropriate. We will still continue to send our
- COs into battle when necessary. Throughout the season, we've tried to
- flesh out the command levels. We started with 2 starfury squadrons on B5,
- and added a third in "Survivors." Logically, those are going to have
- squad leaders. Adding in all three would be a stretch budget-wise, but we
- could at least add one, to show a different aspect of the crew. And, in
- truth, you wouldn't have command personnel leading every single routine
- mission. We'd kinda wanted to do this in the first year, but we didn't
- have the money for it. In year two, we did, and thus added him.
-
- Everyone who advertises on a show would like their products to be
- shown. Likewise, everyone advertising on B5 wanted their stuff shown.
- The good thing about this, for a show with a limited (non ST) budget is
- that you could have access to their products without having to pay a
- license fee. For fun, for instance, we stuck a Zima sign on the back of
- a couple of bars. When Kawasaki came on as a sponsor, Larry kinda got to
- wondering how on earth you could ever work in a motorcycle...and got a
- fun idea. So we went ahead and did it. We never had to do either of
- them, or ANY of them. My feeling since is that it probably wasn't worth
- doing it, best to leave this stuff out, and in year two we haven't done
- ANY of it. Basically, it was a whim.
-
- You'll note that SFU's description of the O'Hare situation doesn't
- quote anybody. There are several questionable conclusions in the article,
- though overall they did a good job. This, though, is one of them. They
- also mis-labled about 4 or 5 photographs. It also kinda bugs me just a
- little that they attribute all the setups on the visuals to the directors,
- when in nearly every case the script *specifically* describes how the shot
- should be set up. I don't mind sharing credit with directors on some of
- this stuff, because it's a collaboration...I just don't like it when ALL
- the credit goes to the director, who used a beam of stark white light in
- a scene, because it said in the script, "Sinclair stands in a beam of
- stark white light."
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN: JMS - Christianity in 23
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:09:18 -0500
-
- Many religious types in 2259 feel that god has appeared to other
- worlds in different forms; others feel that it is their obligation to go
- out into the galaxy and bring the *right* word; in other cases, whole new
- schisms and belief systems sprouted once alien contact had been made,
- including Foundationalism, which Dr. Franklin belongs to (you'll hear
- more about this from Franklin later this season).
-
- jms
-
- Subject: UK: B5 coverage in `The Indepe
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:27:34 -0500
-
- And from his statement "My theory is that the programe's a duffer,"
- he tells you right there that he's never seen the damned thing.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Scheduling
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:28:11 -0500
-
- Year 2 is 22 episodes. I don't think any of the breaks will be as
- long as year 1 since we started at a different time.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Reasons why Bab 5 is crap
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 17:30:24 -0500
-
- The majority of "flaws" you point out are, I'm afraid, rather
- inaccurate.
-
- 1) Doors that swing up. There's nobody just upstairs to be bothered
- by this; the levels are very well isolated from one another. Also, they
- don't go straight up, they're cantilevered, so they swing up and *sideways*
- out of the way. Also, from a technical standpoint, this is a better way
- of ensuring pressure door integrity. If there's a hull blown out, and
- your doors move sideways or meet in the middle, you're going to lose air.
- If the door drops down into place, and is held by inertia, no holes or
- lines, it's *solid*. (It's a solid seal, which is why you can hear it
- close.) It's got nothing to do with trying to not be like Trek; it's
- finding what's most accurate and doing it.
-
- 2) No, we're not borrowing ST's ideas. You say their communicators
- know automatically when you're talking to them. Ours don't. You have
- to physically toggle them. Then, once you've done so, you say, "Sheridan
- to Garibaldi." This verbally activates the system, and rings Garibaldi's
- Link. He toggles his Link and says, "Garibaldi, go." No AI is ever
- involved, really; it's a routing system. (And you'll note that Garibaldi
- doesn't hear the "Sheridan to Garibaldi" part, only the stuff after it
- beeps.) This is not only consistent with the rest of our tech, it's
- actually close to being workable *today*.
-
- 3) Re: aliens knowing about Earth...remember please that you're
- talking about AMBASSADORS here whose JOB it is to know all they can about
- their host. So they study. They don't know all of it; Londo and Vir got
- cats and ducks confused, and there's holes in their knowledge. That's
- why they keep studying, as with G'Kar reading Earth writings. If I
- am assigned as ambassador to Russia, I'd damned well better know as much
- as I can about the culture, the people, their history, their language,
- you name it. Same here. We have not yet to date shown non-ambassadors
- with this level of interest or knowledge about Earth.
-
- A lot of the "problems" you cite could simply be worked out by doing
- a little thought on the reasons behind such things, rather than just
- assuming that it's an error. About 90% of the criticism I see is
- kneejerk response, which when you point out how it makes sense if you
- just fire a few synapses, gets "Oh....yeah..." as a reply.
-
- 4) Zima was a gag. Zima be gone now.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS on Homosexuality argument
- Date: 23 Jan 1995 22:53:53 -0500
-
- If this argument hadn't come through here ten times before this, I
- might not have minded; but this is something like the 11th go-around on
- this, and the fact is that I have not yet seen ONE person change his or
- her views on the subject one way or another. It's NOT a dialogue; it's
- a series of monologues. People hit their marks, scream at the top of
- their lungs, while somebody on the other side does the same.
-
- The result is that it makes BOTH sides look like jerks, and the
- important information that needs to be communicated gets drowned in all
- the noise and vitriol. Once the conversation has descended to that
- level, NO good cause is served.
-
- Ironic thing is...the two sides have one thing in common. I've
- received angry and abusive letters from BOTH sides in the debate for
- my message. I've been called a fag-lover in one, and a right-winger in
- another.
-
- Anybody here remember an episode called "Infection?" Aside form its
- (from its) problems, there was one line in particular I'd like to cite for
- you: "You forgot the first rule of the fanatic: when you become obsessed
- with the enemy, you BECOME the enemy." All I hear around here is
- screaming, and y'know, you all sound alike after a while...and when both
- sides begin using the same tactics, the same flames, the same instant
- condemnation...congratulations, you have become the enemy in whose use of
- those same techniques you find such disgust.
-
- And this will probably get me *more* hate mail from both sides; which
- means I must be fairly close to the truth. If I can offend BOTH sides,
- then I'm doing my job properly.
-
- I wouldn't mind so much if this was new...but we're now in our ninth
- rerun of this conversation, and it's poisoning the well without changing
- one person's mind about much of anything. Enough is enough. It not about
- getting the truth out any longer; it's about who gets in the last word,
- and who's the most indignant, and who's a butthead and who's an asshole.
- This, to me, does not edify, ennoble or explicate the topic at hand.
-
- We are rapidly becoming a nation that is polarized along every
- possible line; gay vs. straight, feminist vs. conservative, pro-choice vs.
- anti-choice...in a nation of laws we have started to resort to acts of
- terror on large and small scales on either side of the spectrum. For two
- hundred years we prided ourselves on the idea -- sometimes flawed, and
- with occasional interruptions -- that we solved our problems at the ballot
- box, not with bullets or trunchens or muggings or firebombings. But now
- more and more both sides are frozen in concrete, opposing opinions are
- no longer tolerated or are proof of disloyalty or stupidity or cupidity
- or bigotry or immorality, people are reduced to stereotypes and jingoisms,
- everybody's demonized and nobody *listens*. We don't talk with each other,
- we yell AT each other. We are two steps away from madness and one step
- away from Beirut.
-
- In theory, people are here in this forum because they feel strongly
- about Babylon 5, and the optimistic (despite many obstacles) view of the
- future that we portray. Well, if you feel that way, I suggest you ALL
- damn well start BUILDING the future instead of TEARING APART the present,
- start talking TO one another not AT one another, because the future ain't
- gonna GET here otherwise.
-
- If people want to discuss this area in calm, measured tones, with some
- measure of respect, fine. (And this applies to ALL areas of current hot
- debate, not just this one.) If all you want to do is yell, over and over
- and over...frankly, take a hike. There is a line between doing something
- for a cause, and saying you're doing something for a cause when you're
- just doing it out of ego, bruised or otherwise. Parse your soul and act
- accordingly.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: B5's Epsilon 3 in SQ6?
- Date: 24 Jan 1995 02:28:03 -0500
-
- I doubt very much that's Epsilon 3.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 24 Jan 1995 02:49:22 -0500
-
- "..it's still unfinished. A shame if B5 were to turn out the same
- way."
-
- (sound of meaty fists clapping together) Yeah...nice place y'got
- here...drapes, yeah, I like dat, real purty...be a real shame if something
- were to, maybe, *happen* to it, y'know? So...you wanna put these jukeboxes
- in your diner or not...?
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate the A
- Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:03:35 -0500
-
- I may not have been clear in my meaning when I said "accellerating
- the arc." This doesn't mean doing anything ahead of schedule; it just
- means that now we begin cranking the story into a higher intensity level.
- We've been kind of floating toward our destination...now we begin the
- process of accellerating. If you recall Literary Structure from English
- Lit 101, there's the Introduction, the Rising Action, the Complication,
- the Climax, and the Denouement. Year one up through about the first
- eight episodes of year two are Introduction; we are now in Rising Action
- stage. Remember that this is structured like a novel, and you'll
- generally have some idea of where you stand in the progression.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Bruce Boxleitner at MOC in Jul
- Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:03:51 -0500
-
- Cool...that's quite a lineup of guests.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: TKO and Ivanova
- Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:20:32 -0500
-
- If the deceased has been dead for quite a while, the period during
- which one must sit shiva is greatly reduced to a day or so, I'm told.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Reasons why Bab 5 is crap
- Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:20:45 -0500
-
- I would suggest that this whole discussion kinda misses the point, as
- tends to happen. Sure, I could stick in lots of references to ancient
- stuff...but why is it on Trek nothing of cultural value seems to have taken
- place after Shakespeare? Doing antiquity is easy. Modern is harder.
-
- But the whole POINT of the exercise goes to the heart of the show's
- philosophy: I'm trying, rather desperately, to connect our present to our
- future, to say that's US out there, building the future, recognizeably us.
- We've lost the thread of continuity that ties us to the future. I'm trying
- with this show to tie the two pieces of the string together again. We
- have lots of ties to our ancient past (and I try to work those in as well,
- cultural and literary references), but it's the *future* that we seem to
- have lost touch with today, in our present. So I'm trying to knit those
- together.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN: JMS - CANADA
- Date: 24 Jan 1995 05:20:58 -0500
-
- "Have you ever mentioned Canada in B5?"
-
- No, but I've mentioned San Diego. Would you like me to extend the
- honor up north?
-
- ("Okay, Rudy, load up another one of them five-hundred megaton jobs.")
-
- Just kidding...I'm pleased that it's going over well in Canada, and
- will see what I can do to nod in that direction without irradiating the
- place.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: Reasons why Bab 5 is crap
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:04:06 -0500
-
- How they know the person has finished talking is a) we either have
- our characters physically toggle off their Link, or b) when you drop your
- arm, it senses the change in gravity and orientation like a phone being
- hung up, and closes the connectoin.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: reading SF
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:02 -0500
-
- One of the drawbacks to producing/writing a series is that it leaves
- you no time for...well, for *anything* else. Thus I haven't been able to
- do much reading of late, though I keep buying books for when I have free
- time. I love reading other authors; I like to be amazed.
-
- I'd certainly recommend the works of Jonathan Carroll, particularly
- THE LAND OF LAUGHS if you can find it, or any of his later novels (VOICE
- OF OUR SHADOWS is also quite nice). He's a contemporary-dark-fantasy
- writer who is *breathtakingly* good.
-
- Most of the reading I do now is nonfiction, just to give the brain a
- break from storytelling. I *strongly* commend THE LETTERS OF NORMAN CORWIN
- to anyone out there. Also currently reading Hunter S. Thompson's new book,
- BETTER THAN SEX, just finished a book (alas I've just forgotten the title)
- by a woman raised in the Mormon church about her life in that world. Also
- working my way through Ed Morrow's GRIM REAPER'S BOOK OF DAYS.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS Is there a Canada in
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:41 -0500
-
- Actually, the Blue Jays were sold to the Mars Consortium in 2200, and
- are currently vying for the Worlds Series.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS:Cameos
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:56 -0500
-
- The only cast member to make a non-prosthetic appearance in a show
- is Caitlin Brown, who will appear as a lawyer in an upcoming episode.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Babcom '95 & blooper reel
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:45:22 -0500
-
- I do plan to bring the reel, yes.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: how much of story was pit
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:52:36 -0500
-
- Generally speaking, I didn't have to reveal much of the arc at all;
- the show was sold on the strength of the characters and current stories.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: CGI Sinclair/Ivanova/Delenn/Lo
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 01:57:36 -0500
-
- We'll be seeing more planet stuff shortly.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 02:15:01 -0500
-
- I actually didn't go to any of the major film/sports schools; not
- UCLA or USC. I attended (in order) Kankakee Community College, Kankakee,
- Illinois; Richland Junior College, Dallas, Texas; Southwestern Junior
- College, Chula Vista, CA; and finally San Diego State University. Loved
- all my writing and literature courses.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Thoughts on second issue
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 03:32:01 -0500
-
- Thanks, we're getting there....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Blast from the present
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 03:59:50 -0500
-
- Thanks, and welcome.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
- Date: 25 Jan 1995 05:20:13 -0500
-
- "What was the spark that ignited your desire to create B5?"
-
- It was a number of things, actually, that all came together at the
- same time.
-
- 1) I'd just gotten off an SF series (Captain Power) where the budget
- was out of control half the time. It made me nuts. I come from this very
- old fashioned school of thought that says if somebody gives you X-million
- dollars to make a series, it behooves you to act RESPONSIBLY. Then I
- looked around more and found that virtually ALL sf series had gone and
- were going over budget, mainly because they weren't planned out properly.
- The emphasis was on just selling the idea, who cares what happens next.
- Whatever one might think of the episode, the 1/2 hour "Nightcrawlers"
- installment of the new TWILIGHT ZONE cost a tick over ONE MILLION DOLLARS.
- That's nuts. I kept thinking, "There has to be a sensible way to do an sF
- series that's responsible, and by virtue of showing it CAN be done
- responsibly, help to create MORE sf from other people, since the industry
- overall is afraid of it."
-
- 2) I'd interviewed and known too many SF producers who knew absolutely
- NOTHING about the genre, didn't respect the genre, just wanted to collect
- the bucks and get out.
-
- 3) As a lifelong SF fan myself, I loved the sagas, the huge cycles:
- Foundation, Childhood's End, Lord of the Rings, Dune, and kept wondering,
- "Why hasn't someone done this for TV?" To which the only answer is,
- "Nobody's tried."
-
- Those elements just kept niggling at me until finally I sat down and
- worked out first how to design a series responsibly, then came up with the
- concept for the storyline. (Learn from mainstream TV: don't go in search
- of new worlds, building them anew each week, create a place where the
- stories come to YOU, as they do in a hospital, a police station, a law
- office. This led me to a space station.)
-
- Once I had the locale, I began to populate it with characters, and
- sketch out directions that might be interesting. I dragged out my notes
- on religion, philosophy, history, sociology, psychology, science (the ones
- that didn't make my head explode), and started stitching together a
- crazy quilt pattern that eventually formed a picture. Once I had that
- picture in my head, once I knew what the major theme was, the rest fell
- into place. All at once, I saw the full five year story in a flash, and
- I frantically began scribbling down notes.
-
- I spent the next couple of years just expanding upon what I saw in
- that flash, building out the characters, the conflicts, the changes in
- alliance, shoring up the thematic elements which will only really become
- apparent over time. In a way, in the midst of this, it was Tennyson's
- "Ulysses" that more surely pointed me toward the heartmeat core of the
- story, which is why I've quoted it in the pilot, in the series, and in
- issue #1 of the comic.
-
- I knew, instantly, that this show might well be impossible to sell;
- that I could invest years of my life into the task, only to fail in the
- end. And, in fact, it took *five years* to finally get this anywhere.
- During that time, had I dropped it, I could've likely sold two or three
- other more conventional series. But like Sinclair, I strapped myself
- into this particular Starfury, pointed myself at my target, and swore not
- to flinch, no matter what. (In discussions about this with Michael, we
- agreed that only he and I were really entitled to wear the patches from
- the Battle of the Line.)
-
- For a long time, a lot of people told me to drop it. My agent said,
- "Kiddo, you know I love the project, but I think you've got to face
- reality. It's not going to happen. I have several other gigs you could
- take if you'd drop this for a while. Maybe later you can try again."
- Friends, family, acquaintances, network suits, studio suits, Major
- Agencies...everyone said let it go. It's been four years, going on five.
- How much longer are you going to DO this?
-
- As long as it TAKES, goddamn it.
-
- I knew that there was a story I wanted to tell, something that I
- wanted to SAY. And there is nothing more essentially deadly than someone
- who believes, rightly or wrongly, that he's on a mission, grandiose and
- possibly stupid as that sounds. I also wanted to make this show because
- I wanted to SEE it as a viewer. Several years ago, I was looking for a
- particular kind of book to read. Couldn't find it. So I wrote it, then
- shoved it in a closet. My agent heard about it a year or two later,
- dragged it out, read it, and sold it. Go figure.
-
- Also, you have to understand...when I was a very young kid, I went to
- visit my grandfather's grave. My grandfater was an alcoholic who died in
- the gutter. Literally. And was buried in a pauper's grave. Ever been to
- a pauper's grave? Lead pipe. Brass number. You check the roster to find
- out who's buried. No name, no date. He passed through his life without
- leaving footprints. It terrified me beyond the capacity of words to convey
- to you. I swore, at that moment, that I wouldn't go down like that, that
- I'd leave a mark, somehow, that I'd been here. And on one level, that's
- what Babylon 5 is to me. See, that's why nothing stops me...it's not about
- money, or fame, or merchandising...there's nothing they can use agains]
- me. Whether I stand or fall doesn't matter. If I write hard, if I work
- hard, what I have created will survive me. Even when I'm forgotten, this
- will go on. I will have left my mark.
-
- That, at least, is the conceit I allow myself in the Hour of the Wolf,
- when everything looks futile, and I doubt myself the most.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: *what* kind of speci
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:10:58 -0500
-
- Minbari are mammals, definitely; structural and skeletal variations
- (horn-like bone growth on the head, a slightly more raised and obvious
- spinal structure, different blood type), and probably in many ways the
- most biologically similar.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:34:00 -0500
-
- Yes, we'll see the rings in time. And no plans for a book down the
- road...one crisis at a time.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Jerry Doyle, Sto
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:35:50 -0500
-
- Correct: Jerry Doyle was at one point a stockbroker. He has since
- reformed.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: reading SF
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:37:43 -0500
-
- "Why bother with the vasectomy?"
-
- Who can remember...?
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Your Show is Number one w
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:39:33 -0500
-
- My regards to your wonderfully discerning organization....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: THANK YOU FOR B5 FROM HA
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:46:59 -0500
-
- Thank you. Have had only passing experience with Robotech; I've just
- never been able to get into Anime. Glad to hear that 38 supports the
- show; I hear they're okay people.
-
- In any event...thanks again for the encouragement. It helps.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Richland College question
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:50:34 -0500
-
- I remember little of the classes at Richland College except for a few;
- one was a History of English Literature class, which introduced me to Keats
- and Yeats and Tennyson and Shelley through an instructor who *loved* his
- work and the writers in question. He just breathed life into the words,
- and he encouraged me strongly to pursue my writing.
-
- Beyond that, there were mainly classes in psychology, sociology,
- some math stuff, and philosophy. One was a History of Greek Philosophy
- course (Thales to Aristotle), which I just loved. By virtue of taking a
- LOT of electives over the years in areas that interested me, I kinda ended
- up with a classical education. It's more breadth than depth, but it gives
- me the tools I need (over the course of four colleges/universities and
- a couple of degrees) to find whatever more is necessary for stories or
- scripts.
-
- The best thing about the year or so I spent at Richland was that at
- this time (around 1973), beat poetry was still in vogue (well, it was OUT
- of vogue everywhere else, but trends always start and finish first on the
- coasts, then work their way inland from there), and every day at noon by
- the commons there would be performances of beat poetry, which led me to
- explore Ginsburg and Ferlinghetti ("This Life Is Not A Circus Where"
- and "Christ Came Down" being two favorites) and other contemporaries.
-
- I've always been naturally curious about stuff, and to me the college
- experience was the chance to find out about *anything*. So I just dived
- in and took it for all it was worth. If I'm going on about this a bit,
- it's because I know there are lots of folks here who are currently in or
- entering college. If you only see the parking lot and the cafeteria and
- the bathrooms and the classrooms of the courses you have to take...you're
- missing the point. It's an *amazing* opportunity that will likely not
- come your way again in such plentitude. Take courses in areas outside your
- major, even if just to audit them. There are amazing opportunities you
- can mine if you're a writer, also...college newspapers, magazines, low
- power local/college radio and TV stations, theater department productions,
- on and on and on.
-
- Granted...a lot of college was a pain in the ass. I took a lot of
- stuff I didn't want, didn't need, and have never used because they were
- required for my major. (One semester, just to get RID of some of this
- stuff, I took 24 units -- crashing classes over my 16 unit limit in order
- to sneak past the rules -- at one time, while working part time. It was
- a profound mistake, since it included 8 units of German and classes in
- Statistical Psychology, Biology and other stuff. Major brain-fry.)
-
- But overall, the experience was rewarding, and I encourage a
- generalist approach to others. If you're going to be there, ENJOY it.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:50:06 -0500
-
- The story is still going where I wanted it to go, but in general it
- is even better than I'd hoped it would be.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: What finally sold B5
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 04:50:19 -0500
-
- What made all the difference was finding people who *understood* what
- we were trying to do. In general, you know instantly if an exec Gets It or
- not. Most didn't. The first one to Get It was Evan Thompson, head of
- Chris-Craft Television, who put us onto Dick Robertson at Warner Bros.
- We didn't know at the time that PTEN was in the works (a joint venture
- between the two), but when it appeared, we were in line to get on.
-
- We did multiple pitches to the station group's executive committee,
- and were pleased to see that they, too, Got It. Once we proved that we
- could a) do the pilot, and b) do it for the budget, we got the Go for
- series.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Of Zima and Kawasaki
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:52:20 -0500
-
- Correct. We received not a dime from Zime or Kawasaki. And believe
- me, if we had, I wouldn't be bashful about saying so. Anybody wants to
- help finance this show and make it even better, bring 'em in. Just
- hasn't happened.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn: JMS...the best laid plan
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:52:33 -0500
-
- I'm awestruck...simply awestruck.
-
- We should all wear white for the duration of the convention. I'll
- send a memo on that at once.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Off Topic?
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:52:05 -0500
-
- Sci-Fi Channel has indicated many times that they would like t
- acquire Captain Power, but (in what I must say I think is a doofy move)
- the producer won't release the show unless SFC agrees to finance new eps.
- Cart before the horse, if you ask me. Get the show on first, create the
- need, THEN do more.
-
- Doofy, I tell you. Doofy, doofy, doofy. Maybe even doofiest.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN: JMS Big Bang con
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 05:00:47 -0500
-
- I'm *terrible* at gambling. I might as well just pile the money on
- the coffetable and put a match to it. Which is why I generally stay far
- away, or allow only small amounts of money (have actually only gambled a
- couple of times, been to Vegas only once). I'm basically an obsessive-
- compulsive personality, and the LAST thing you want to do is hand someone
- like that a drink, a cigarette, a joint or a pair of dice (which is why
- I don't generally drink, smoke, do drugs or gamble). I'd rather direct
- that obsessive behavior toward writing.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: What about alien doctors
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 05:13:19 -0500
-
- As it happens, I'm writing a script right *now* that deals with the
- question of alien doctors.
-
- I live to serve....
-
- jms
-
- Subject: "Shadows" request from jms
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 05:15:10 -0500
-
- A request for those who'll be seeing "The Coming of Shadows" on the
- satellite uplink tomorrow. There's a lot of stuff in that episode, and
- it's probably the best one of the series to date. It has a lot of sudden
- twists and turns that even "WARNING: SPOILER" in message headers won't
- keep from accidentally spilling out.
-
- Thus, I'd like to make a request I don't generally make: if those
- who get the satellite feed could hold off on ANY plot revelations for a
- few days, until it starts airing, I would *very* much appreciate it.
- After you've seen the ep, you'll understand why I ask this. General
- comments (liked it/hated it), or private email with questions or
- responses...all terrific. I'd just like to try and keep this one as
- close to my vest as possible for a bit.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Run Thru Dark Places -spoiler
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 19:23:06 -0500
-
- Two corrections: Talia did not walk off with Bester; they took two
- different routes away. Check the tape. Also, there was no reason for
- Ivanova to object to Talia taking off her gloves; she wasn't going to be
- scanned.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: A Race Through Dark Places
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 19:29:18 -0500
-
- B5 operates on EST, Earth Standard Time, as noted in episodes. So
- they do have day and night cycles. And it's the fear of what psi might
- do if they DID join together that worries people, and why we have a
- Psi-Corps. Which is what Talia says.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Babylon 5 and new watcher
- Date: 26 Jan 1995 19:30:57 -0500
-
- I'm not sure I understand what faces you have to recognize to follow
- "Race." Bester is re-introduced with an explanation, as is Jason. You
- don't have to recognize the guy from "Chrysalis;" if you do, great, it
- adds a level. If you don't, it still tracks. The only other characters
- are our reglars; so I'm confused as to what there was left to confuse them.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Religion and First Contact....
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 03:27:44 -0500
-
- First Contact did factionalize or even destroy some religions; others
- sprung up afterward. Others assimmilated the notion. Franklin belongs to
- one that came up after First Contact.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Re: A RACE THROUGH DARK PLACES
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 15:57:33 -0500
-
- You can generally squeeze 20-25 pops out of a standard PPG energy
- cap. It won't need to be recharged for quite a while. And there you
- just slap a new one in and drop the old one in a recharge bin.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: A fan letter, or THANKS JMS!
- Date: 27 Jan 1995 17:58:27 -0500
-
- You're very much welcome, thanks.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN: JMS on publicity
- Date: 28 Jan 1995 05:54:07 -0500
-
- Let me be clear on this: we will take ANY opportunity, any help in
- getting the word out. In many ways we are treated with a "stealth
- publicity" campaign by some within the studio; keep a low profile, or
- else god forbid somebody might write an article. So all aid -- putting
- the word out, asking local papers for coverage, writing to magazines,
- anything and everything -- is appreciated.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Minor UK publicity for B5
- Date: 28 Jan 1995 22:13:53 -0500
-
- I'd love if I could get copies of those two clips sent to me at
- 14431 Ventura Boulevard, Suite 260, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423. Many, many
- thanks.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: episode SKIPPED IN DENVER
- Date: 29 Jan 1995 01:03:42 -0500
-
- Apparently the station mixed up the two tapes.
-
- I am *profoundly* bugged.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: When did you go to r
- Date: 29 Jan 1995 01:39:57 -0500
-
- Okay...Kankakee in 1972-73; Richland 1973-1974; Southwestern
- 1974-1976; SDSU 1976-1977.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: O'Hare presence = s
- Date: 29 Jan 1995 03:51:48 -0500
-
- I have never stated, at any time, any specifics about the amount or
- duration of Sinclair's presence in the B5 storyline yet to come because
- a) there are things I wish to withhold, and b) some things must remain
- fluid because if Michael should get, for instance, a major role on a big
- network series offered to him, and with no guarantees of B5 next season,
- he would have to take it. There are certain things planned, but I don't
- generally pin this stuff down until I'm absolutely sure I've nailed down
- all the corners. We *will* see him briefly this season, and we will see
- more of him soon. Beyond that I haven't commented, and won't comment.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: A NOVEL
- Date: 29 Jan 1995 06:09:46 -0500
-
- "I WILL WRITE A SEQUEL TO THE POPULAR MOVIE & NOVEL BABYLON 5."
-
- Nope.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Switched Episode Order? [
- Date: 29 Jan 1995 06:14:32 -0500
-
- Yes, originally, "Soul Mates" was to air after "Race." At that
- time, PTEN was initially going to show just 6 new episodes, and we would
- have come in after the rerun break with "Race," then "Soul." When the
- ratings came in and looked good, they didn't want to interfere with
- the growth, and indicated they wanted to show 7 new eps in the first
- batch. "Race," as you can see, was a very complex episode visually, and
- the only way to get it ready to run #7 in the first batch would've been
- to compromise the integrity of the show, and we simply won't do that for
- ANY reason. "Soul Mates," on the other hand, required very little in the
- way of post production, so that was moved forward into the #7 slot.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: BABYLON 5...AFTER THE METAL WA
- Date: 29 Jan 1995 06:14:41 -0500
-
- Yes, I worked on CAPTAIN POWER, and stuck the reference to Babylon
- 5 into one of my scripts as a nod to the future; did the same in one of
- my novels, OTHERSYDE. Sort of a Tuckerism-before-the-fact. (One good
- thing about this is that it inadvertantly ended up helping make it clear
- to people that I was working on this sucker since 1986/87 or so.)
-
- jms
-
-
- Subject: Re: ATTN JMS: Why Accelerate t
- Date: 30 Jan 1995 01:59:38 -0500
-
- My first novel was DEMON NIGHT, published in hardcover by E. P.
- Dutton, and nominated for a Bram Stoker Award by the Horror Writers of
- America.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Attn. JMS S.EFX error in RTDP
- Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:02:31 -0500
-
- The doorbell *is* there. Recently, though, the satellite uplink
- company used by PTEN changed some of its audio feed channels; if your
- local station or whoever downlinked it didn't catch it, some audio got
- missed.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Bester, Our Favorite Storm Tro
- Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:03:00 -0500
-
- Bester's name was my idea.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: How Many *** To Screw In A Lig
- Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:03:18 -0500
-
- Q: How many telepaths does it take to scew in a lightbulb?
-
- A:
-
-
-
-
- (Also, what do you call a Minbari floating dead in the ocean? A
- minbuoy.)
-
- jms
-
- Subject: KCOP 13 (Was: Re: IMHO's on A
- Date: 30 Jan 1995 03:17:45 -0500
-
- In editing, we always left black and let an act end properly; we
- were aghast at the clipping at the end of various acts. We think some
- of it happened at the firm that drops in the national sponsor's
- commercials.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Something amusing waiting for
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 01:08:59 -0500
-
- "Who's the K?"
-
- Easy...the Kook who came up with this idea.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS: New PPG effects perm
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 01:31:24 -0500
-
- Kevin kind of got overtaxed with stuff; however, he is doing a few
- things for us now here and there, and we're now using the same techniques
- for the new PPG blasts, so it should look normal next time you see them.
-
- jsm
-
- Subject: ATTN JMS:What goes through you
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:42:34 -0500
-
- "What goes through your head?"
-
- Wolverines, mainly.
-
- Sundays we get possoms.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Sheridan's lightbulb joke
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:43:05 -0500
-
- Actually, a number of people hit on the basic idea of the Minbari
- surrender; there was some of this over on GEnie as well. It's really the
- obvious joke. I went for it as well, and appended the last part to set it
- apart.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Race through dark places comme
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:46:24 -0500
-
- Also, bear in mind that Bester's parting shot in "Mind War" was
- exactly that, in essence an "Up yours" but subtle. There was no reason
- for that to be given to anyone in "Race."
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:57:44 -0500
-
- All TV series are in essence owned by the studio that produces them.
- Hence, B5 is copyrighted and owned by Warner Bros./PTEN.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Military model for Earthf
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:58:06 -0500
-
- Your analysis is not far off the mark. There's some of the
- Stalinist approach, also some of the early Roman approach, where there
- was a great deal of overlap between senators and the military. Because
- of having to pull so many different traditions together, I also figure
- it's kind of a hodge-podge, each division pulling for its own identity
- which may or may not be somewhat obsolete by now.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: JMS: Repeats and Canonical Ep
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:57:24 -0500
-
- All episodes will tend to be repeated in original airdate order; but
- this doesn't bother me particularly, since if the series can't survive
- being viewed out of order, then it's flawed.
-
- And yes, I believe they'll be picking up season 1's last reruns after
- the end of season 2.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Att'n JMS: Death and Dyin
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 17:57:44 -0500
-
- All TV series are in essence owned by the studio that produces them.
- Hence, B5 is copyrighted and owned by Warner Bros./PTEN.
-
- jms
-
- Subject: Ellison, guns and breaking win
- Date: 31 Jan 1995 22:20:25 -0500
-
- The PPG is a jms addition, dating back to before the pilot.
-
- jms
-
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