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- -- THIS DOCUMENT CONTAINS ALL OF KOSH NARANEK'S QUOTES FROM BABYLON 5 --
- -- SEASON 1. I HAVE ALSO INCLUDED NOTES ON EVENTS INVOLVING AND QUESTIONS --
- -- RAISED ABOUT KOSH IN EACH EPISODE. THESE NOTES WERE IN PART COMPILED --
- -- FROM THE BABYLON 5 GUIDES AND SYNOPSES AND REPRESENT QUESTIONS AND --
- -- SPECULATIONS THAT ARE RELEVANT FOR THAT EPISODE, AND MAY IN SOME CASES --
- -- BE SUPERSEDED BY LATER EPISODES --
- -- --
- -- KOSH IS MY FAVORITE CHARACTER ON B5 AND I HOPE THAT THIS DOCUMENT WILL --
- -- GENERATE DISCUSSION SO THAT WE CAN ALL BETTER UNDERSTAND KOSH AND --
- -- THE VORLONS; BUT AS KOSH SAYS, "UNDERSTANDING IS A THREE-EDGED SWORD" --
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- -- ENJOY! --
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- PILOT - THE GATHERING
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- Notes:
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- - Why did the Vorlons request that the monitors in the docking bay be
- turned off? Kosh was walking out in public, hidden safely in his
- encounter suit.
- - How did the poison get through to Kosh? This is not a plothole!
- Sinclair himself wonders this in "The War Prayer".
- - Is there anything to that legend about someone turning to stone
- when they saw a Vorlon? Have people ever gotten into situations
- where they could conceivably have seen one?
- - The Vorlons seem to be puppet thugs of the conspirators in the
- pilot, yet clearly they do some things for their own reasons. Why
- such secrecy around their technological inferiors? Why break the
- veil to send an ambassador to B5?
- - What information about the Vorlons did Delenn give to Sinclair?
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- SEASON 1
-
- MIDNIGHT ON THE FIRING LINE
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- Kosh : Greetings Commander.
-
- Sinclair : You weren't at the council room earlier. I wanted to
- make sure that you knew about the emergency session.
- Kosh : Yes.
-
- Sinclair : We may need your help to push through sanctions, does
- your government have a position on the current situation?
- Kosh : ...
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- Sinclair : Will you attend the emergency meeting.
- Kosh : Yes.
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- - KOSH ENTERS HIS SUIT, SINCLAIR TURNS AROUND.
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- Kosh : They are alone. They are a dying people; we should
- let them pass,
- Sinclair : Who, the Narn or the Centauri?
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- Kosh : Yes.
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- Notes:
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- - How did Kosh get into his encounter suit so quickly?
- When Sinclair enters Kosh's quarters, Kosh's encounter suit can
- be seen to the side, hanging loosely. Kosh appears to be behind a
- translucent screen. When Sinclair turns to leave there is a flash
- of light Sinclair spins around just in time to see the encounter suit
- reaching its full height, with Kosh apparently inside.
- - Why did Kosh agree to attend the council session?
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- -- SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED THAT I INCLUDE THIS SCENE WHICH WAS --
- -- ALLEGEDLY CUT FROM THIS EPISODE. SOURCE FOLLOWS! --
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- - KOSH IS IN THE OBSERVATION DOME WITH GARIBALDI & IVANOVA NEAR BY
- Kosh : Ahhh.... beautiful....
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- - LONG BEAT AS KOSH LOOKS AROUND
- Kosh : I will miss this... when it is gone.
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- - KOSH EXITS
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- - GARIBALDI MUTTERS TO IVANOVA
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- Garibaldi : I *really* hate it when he does that.
-
- >
- > Category 18, Topic 9
- > Message 284 Tue Aug 17, 1993
- > STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:55 EDT
- >
- > As reward for the humor, here's what Kosh will *really* say, when he
- > utters the first words we hear. He's on the Observation Dome, looking out
- > through the window as a ship passes overhead, the lights shining down at him
- > through a window.
- >
- > "Ahhh....beautiful." Long beat as he looks around the place. Then:
- > "I will miss this...when it is gone."
- >
- > And then he exits, as Garibaldi mutters to Ivanova, "I *really* hate it
- > when he does that."
- >
- > jms
- >
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- THE WAR PRAYER
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- Sinclair : Ambassador Kosh, I hadn't heard from you, so I thought
- I'd make sure that you'd been informed. There have
- been several recent attacks on non-humanoids. We are
- conducting a thorough investigation and hope to have it
- wrapped up soon.
- Kosh : Good.
-
- Sinclair : Meanwhile it might be helpful if you spoke with the other
- ambassadors.
- Kosh : We take no interest in the affairs of others.
-
- Sinclair : Well I hope you'll reconsider. If you could give us a
- hand, we...
- Kosh : Yes?
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- Sinclair : Nothing. We'll respect your wishes...
- That's quite a viewer. I've never seen anything like
- it before. What is it?
- Kosh : Efficient.
-
- Sinclair : Those are images from my world. If I may ask, what are you...
- Kosh : I am studying.
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- Sinclair : Studying what?
- Kosh : ...
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- Sinclair : Ambassador?
- Kosh : ...
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- Notes:
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- - Kosh's appears to be studying pictorial records from human history
- throughout the span of its civilization.
- - Kosh says "We have no interest in the affairs of others?" Why then is
- he studying human history? Perhaps for some reason Kosh does not consider
- humans as "others"? Or does he mean other THAN humans? Or perhaps by
- "affairs" he means the passing events of the day, as compared to the
- span of a history?
- - Talking to Kosh about the attacks on non-humans, Sinclair breaks
- off right after asking him to "lend a hand". Not long later
- Sinclair wonders aloud to Ivanova how an assassin had managed to
- poison Kosh on the "hand", through his encounter suit. Does Kosh have
- hands?
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- DEATHWALKER
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- Talia : Ambassador Kosh, is there something I can do for you?
- Kosh : I wish to engage your services.
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- Talia : For what?
- Kosh : Business.
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- Talia : What sort of business?
- Kosh : Important!
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- Talia : Ambassador I'd be happy to assist you, but there are
- certain details that I must know before taking any
- commission not to mention getting clearance from...
- Kosh : All arranged, as is payment, we will meet in Red-3 at the
- hour of scampering.
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- Talia : Ambassador Kosh, all of the clearances seem to be in order
- and the pay is very generous, however there is something I
- still don't understand.
- Kosh : Understanding is a three-edged sword.
-
- - ABBUT ARRIVES AND TALIA INTRODUCES HERSELF AS DOES ABBUT
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- Kosh : Please scan Abbut, report to me his thoughts at present.
-
- - TALIA REPORTS THAT SHE DETECTS NO THOUGHTS AT ALL.
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- Kosh : Excellent, we may now begin our business. Abbut!
- Abbut : Crab Nebula...
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- Kosh : Then the willows must scuttle carefully.
- Abbut : Does Saturn have rings?
- Kosh : The talks are over for the day, we shall commence again
- tomorrow at the hour of longing.
- Abbut : Suits me!
-
- - ABBUT LEAVES
- Talia : Ambassador! Ambassador Kosh!
- Kosh : There is a question?
- Talia : Yes! I've been scanning Mr. Abbut all day and his mind is
- still just as empty as when we started; and these phrases
- that you keep speaking in, they don't make any sense.
- Kosh : Ah, you seek meaning? Then listen to the music, not the song.
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- Talia : Ambassador, I've thought it over and I don't believe that I
- can continue with this assignment.
- Kosh : Your belief does not enter into it, we have a contract!
- Talia : I know that, but you don't really need a telepath.
- Kosh : What is need compared to the path?
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- Abbut : A herring is just a herring, but a good cigar is a cuban.
- Kosh : A stroke of the brush does not guarantee art from the
- bristles. Do you understand Miss Winters?
- Abbut : You were swell, maybe we can have that Jovian-Sunspot
- sometime. Kosh old boy, a pleasure as always. Let's do
- lunch soon.
- - ABBUT HANDS KOSH A DATA CRYSTAL AND LEAVES
- Talia : What was he, and what was on that data crystal he gave you?
- Kosh : Reflection, surprise, terror... for the future.
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- - A VORLON SHIP COMES THROUGH THE JUMPGATE AND DESTROYS DEATHWALKER'S SHIP
- Sinclair : Why? (did the Vorlons destroy Deathwalker's ship)
- Kosh : You are not ready for immortality.
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- - LATER TALIA TELLS SINCLAIR ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE WITH KOSH
- Sinclair : They say God works in mysterious ways
- Garibaldi : Maybe so, but he's a con man compared to the Vorlon.
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- Notes:
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- - What do the Vorlons know about immortality?
- - Did Kosh and Abbut really have previous dealings or is Abbut just being
- flip about that?
- - Why did Kosh collect reflection, surprise, terror... for the future from
- Talia?
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- BELIEVERS
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- - THE SICK BOY'S PARENTS GO TO KOSH TO ASK HIM TO INTERCEDE ON THEIR BEHALF
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- Boy's father : The Vorlons are very powerful. If you filed a protest,
- Commander Sinclair would have to forbid Dr. Franklin
- from operating on our son.
- Boy's mother : Will you consider one thing. Please! If it were your
- child or even you yourself, how would you feel if the
- doctor of Babylon 5 wanted to perform an unwelcome
- procedure on you?
- Kosh : The avalanche has already started. It is too late for
- the pebbles to vote.
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- Notes:
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- - Kosh, of course, was the object of an unwelcome procedure in
- "The Gathering", to which the Vorlons responded was a massive
- show of force.
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- SIGNS AND PORTENTS
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- - KOSH ENCOUNTERS MORDEN IN A HALLWAY
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- Kosh : Leave this place. They are not for you. Go. Leave. NOW!
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- Notes:
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- - What do Delenn and Kosh know about Morden?
- - Delenn and Kosh seem to have some sort of perception beyond normal
- senses, be it telepathy or something else. Kosh's seems to be much
- more advanced.
- - Kosh recognized what Morden was immediately. That suggests
- previous contact between the Vorlons and Morden's people.
- - Kosh said, "They are not for you." He might have been referring to
- any number of things: his desires or thoughts, the people Morden
- had been talking to, or perhaps humankind, since it's plausible
- Morden was on his way to see Sinclair at that point.
- - Morden and Kosh appeared to have fought, resulting in the damage
- to Kosh's encounter suit. Since Morden continued to go about his
- business, perhaps Kosh capitulated or lost the fight, or perhaps
- he was only interested in stopping Morden from seeing Sinclair.
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- GRAIL
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- Sinclair : We've confiscated the fake encounter suit. It's a pretty
- close match to your own, at least from the outside.
- Kosh : Why?
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- Sinclair : Deuce wanted to make people think he had the Vorlons
- working for him. He figured it would add to his image
- and intimidate people.
- Kosh : Why?
-
- Sinclair : Well, after all, no one knows exactly what you look like.
- That makes some people, a little nervous.
- Kosh : Good!
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- Notes:
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- - From the Babylon 5 Guide - jms speaks:
- In an earlier version of the story, it was indeed Kosh who
- appeared out of nowhere and scragged the Feeder, saying, "Some
- things we do not allow," but it seemed kinda un-Kosh-like on one
- level, and it repeated the Deathwalker finish, so it was dropped.
- - Kosh wants others to fear him!
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- CHRYSALIS
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- - SINCLAIR SENSING SOMEONE ELSE ENTERING THE BAR, TURNS AROUND AND SEES KOSH
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- Kosh : And so it begins... You have forgotten something...
-
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- - IT HAS ALSO BEEN SUGGESTED THAT I INCLUDE DELENN'S QUOTES DURING HER
- MEETING WITH KOSH, EVEN THOUGH KOSH DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING BACK TO HER,
- SO HERE IT IS!
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- Delenn : I have come as I said I would. Kosh, I have great doubts,
- I must know if it's true! I must see with my own eyes!
-
- - KOSH'S SUIT OPENS (HEAD? FLIPS UP), DELENN SEES SOMETHING?
-
- Delenn : Yes, thank you. Now I will keep the promise. Goodbye.
- You will not see me again as I am now.
-
- - DELENN BOWS AND SCENE ENDS
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- Notes:
-
- - What does the chrysalis have to do with Kosh, or with the Vorlons?
- Why did seeing Kosh help Delenn make up her mind? What was the question
- she had Lennier relay?
- - The fact that Delenn decided to go ahead with the change after
- Kosh revealed himself to her suggests that there may be a much
- closer relationship between the Minbari and the Vorlons than has
- previously been suggested. It is even possible that Delenn is
- turning into a Vorlon somehow, and that Kosh showed her he
- resembled a Minbari. On the other hand, that doesn't explain
- Kosh's interest in humans, who he arguably doesn't consider
- another race (cf. "The War Prayer.")
- - What was Kosh referring to Sinclair having forgotten? Was it Delenn?
- Was he referring to Sinclair specifically when he said "You" or was
- Kosh referring to the human race as a whole?
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- SEASON 2
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- REVELATIONS
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- - G'KAR, HAVING JUST NARROWLY ESCAPED FROM THE SHADOWS, WARNS THE B5 COUNCIL
- ABOUT THE SITUATION ON THE RIM, BUT THE NARN CRUISER THAT WAS SENT TO
- INVESTIGATE IS DESTROYED ALONG WITH G'KAR'S PROOF. AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS
- FILE OUT AFTER THE MEETING G'KAR TURNS TO KOSH
-
- G'Kar : You just stand there and never say anything,
- will you please say something.
- Kosh : Good Bye!
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- Notes:
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- -- ACTUALLY I DON'T BELIEVE THAT KOSH HAS SAID A WORD (TONE) AS OF --
- -- THE FIRST EIGHT SECOND SEASON EPISODES, BUT I DECIDED TO INCLUDE THIS --
- -- SCENE FROM REVELATIONS WHICH WAS ALLEGEDLY CUT. THE SOURCE FOLLOWS! --
-
- >
- > Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5
- > Subject: Kosh in Revelations....
- > Date: 10 Nov 1994 01:18 CDT
- > When I was at Creation Con about 2 weeks back and saw Revelations
- > with Joe there I noticed that having Kosh standing there doing
- > nothing seemed odd to me. I know that Kosh is a bit of an observer
- > but since s(he) seems to know what the hell is going on with the
- > shadows I was wondering why Kosh did not feel free to put in a few
- > words. I asked Joe about it and they were going to add a scene with
- > Kosh and G'Kar but due to time was edited out. It went something
- > like this.
- >
- > G'Kar - You just stand there and never say anything,
- > will you please say something.
- >
- > Kosh - ! #$%^--Good Bye--! #$^^&
- >
- > Joe- I feel that that scene would have made G'Kars return ever more spooky
- > and ominous.
- >
- > BTW- Great Episode, I love that Mira Furlan will be able to show her real
- > beauty off on the screen and not hide it under her Minbari makeup. :-)
- >
- >
- > Carlos'94
- >
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- -- I WISH TO THANK MY FRIEND BARRY HOLLOWAY WHO HELPED ME FINE TUNE --
- -- THIS DOCUMENT. I ALSO WISH TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE EXCELLENT WORK OF --
- -- THE KEEPERS OF THE BABYLON 5 GUIDES AND SYNOPSES; STEVEN GRIMM, --
- -- MATTHEW RYAN, MATTHEW MURRAY, AND SHAWN BAYERN. WITHOUT THEIR --
- -- HEROIC EFFORTS I WOULD NOT HAVE ATTEMPTED TO COMPILE THIS DOCUMENT --
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- -- I HOPE YOU ENJOY KOSH'S QUOTES AND *PLEASE* LET ME KNOW OF ANY --
- -- ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS. --
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