The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  4. _Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
  5. - [13]Notes - [14]JMS
  6. _________________________________________________________________
  7. Overview
  8. Zack makes a discovery in the search for Garibaldi. Delenn's plan
  9. to attack the Shadows runs into trouble. Ivanova and Marcus attempt
  10. to solicit aid from more First Ones. [15]Wayne Alexander as Lorien.
  11. [16]Wortham Krimmer as Emperor Cartagia. Eric Zivot as Verano.
  12. Jonathan Chapman as Ambassador Lethke.
  13. [17]P5 Rating: [18]8.66
  14. Production number: 403
  15. Original air week: November 18, 1996
  16. Written by J. Michael Straczynski
  17. Directed by John McPherson
  18. _________________________________________________________________
  19. Plot Points
  20. * Lyta's telepathic abilities were enhanced by the Vorlons to enable
  21. her to more easily carry one of them.
  22. * The Vorlons, apparently determined to wipe the Shadows out once
  23. and for all, have begun destroying worlds that have had contact
  24. with the Shadows, and to that end have amassed a fleet of
  25. thousands of ships.
  26. * Sheridan has returned to Babylon 5, as has Garibaldi.
  27. * Initially, when the Vorlons and Shadows took on the task of
  28. looking after the younger races, they were equally balanced,
  29. obeyed rules of engagement, and respected each other's
  30. perspectives. But at some point, one of them grew tired of the
  31. arrangement and the two started fighting in earnest, with the
  32. younger races caught in the middle.
  33. Unanswered Questions
  34. * Who, if anyone, was on the ship that carried Garibaldi's lifepod?
  35. Why were they transporting him, and why did they self-destruct?
  36. * What was done to Garibaldi? Was he implanted with a new
  37. personality, like Talia Winters?
  38. * What was the program that activated as Garibaldi's pod was
  39. ejected?
  40. * Why did Lorien accompany Sheridan?
  41. * How did they get to Babylon 5? Was that Lorien's ship?
  42. * What exactly did Lyta learn when she scanned Kosh?
  43. * What exactly does Sheridan have in mind to end the war once and
  44. for all?
  45. * What happened to Marcus' family? His brother died in a Shadow
  46. attack ([19]"Matters of Honor,") but what about his parents?
  47. Analysis
  48. * Delenn said, "Everyone I hold dear is gone." She didn't list
  49. Lennier among them. Why not?
  50. * Lyta says she allowed the Vorlons to modify her because she
  51. believed. Believed in what? What did they tell her about their
  52. intentions? Does she know anything about the Shadows and Vorlons,
  53. and the nature of their conflict, that Sheridan would find useful?
  54. * What made the Vorlons change their strategy? Most likely it has
  55. something to do with the "unexpected door" they feel Sheridan
  56. opened on Z'ha'dum ([20]"The Hour of the Wolf.") By attempting to
  57. wipe out the Shadows, it's arguable they've lost the war on a
  58. philosophical level; attempting to wipe out a race to gain
  59. supremacy is exactly the method the Shadows advocate.
  60. On the other hand, if there's no way to get the Shadows to stop
  61. fighting and causing wars except by completely destroying them,
  62. the Vorlons may have reached the conclusion that the very
  63. existence of the Shadows means their philosophy can never take
  64. hold.
  65. * Given that the old Kosh, at least according to Lyta, cared about
  66. the younger races, would he have approved of the Vorlons' change
  67. in strategy? If not, will the piece of him still alive in Sheridan
  68. try to stop the plan?
  69. * Lyta referred to the old Kosh as "the _real_ Kosh." What isn't
  70. real about the new Kosh? What is the new Kosh's actual name (or
  71. its human-pronounceable version?)
  72. * Lorien's visit to B5 would seem to indicate that he, at least,
  73. still cares about the younger races. What can he do about it?
  74. Presumably he'll be able to provide valuable information, but does
  75. he have any capabilities beyond that? For example, does he have
  76. access to technology millions of years more advanced than even the
  77. Shadows and Vorlons?
  78. In [21]"Whatever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?" he appeared to have a
  79. significant presence on the "dream plane" (for lack of a better
  80. term) through which Kosh sent the dreams to Sheridan in [22]"All
  81. Alone in the Night" and [23]"Interludes and Examinations." It's
  82. plausible that that's where much of a Vorlon's consciousness
  83. lives; if so, Lorien may be capable of much more direct impact on
  84. the Vorlons than his physical presence implies. Whether the same
  85. is true in the Shadows' case is less clear, but the fact that the
  86. Eye at Z'ha'dum found Ivanova while she was in the Great Machine
  87. ([24]"Voices of Authority") suggests that they too have some
  88. presence in that mode of existence.
  89. * Destroying planets may seem excessive, but perhaps the Vorlons are
  90. doing so, rather than simply wiping out all surface life, because
  91. of the Shadows' habit of burying their ships underground
  92. ([25]"Messages From Earth") and building cities underground
  93. ([26]"Z'ha'dum.") They may feel that completely destroying a
  94. planet that's been visited by the Shadows is the only way to
  95. ensure that there are no surprises left behind.
  96. * Is the current Vorlon rampage due in part to the death of the
  97. original Kosh at the hands of the Shadows? If so, there's a
  98. parallel to the Earth-Minbari War, in which, according to Delenn
  99. ([27]"Ceremonies of Light and Dark") the Minbari went collectively
  100. mad after the death of their leader Dukhat at human hands.
  101. * By wiping out younger races as they battle the Shadows, the
  102. Vorlons can no longer really claim to be looking after their
  103. juniors. What will the other First Ones think of that? They don't
  104. seem to be on particularly good terms with the Vorlons to begin
  105. with ([28]"Voices of Authority") and this change in attitude may
  106. further irritate their peers. Lorien will likely be able to
  107. provide greater insight into the feelings of the other First Ones
  108. toward the Vorlons.
  109. * If the Vorlons are truly intent on wiping out any worlds the
  110. Shadows have touched, that means they'll be targeting Mars,
  111. Centauri Prime, Earth, and B5. Depending on how recently a planet
  112. has to have had contact to be considered tainted, they may also
  113. destroy Narn. Only the Minbari seem, so far, to have never been
  114. under Shadow influence, so their homeworld may be spared.
  115. The only evidence so far of Shadow influence is the assassination
  116. attempt against Kosh in [29]"The Gathering," but given that the
  117. Shadows didn't try to touch Kosh until the Vorlon offensive in
  118. [30]"Interludes and Examinations," the hallway meeting in
  119. [31]"Signs and Portents" notwithstanding (Kosh initiated that
  120. confrontation too) it's more likely the Minbari warriors were
  121. acting of their own volition.
  122. * The Vorlons' new tack is somewhat ironic, given that they filed an
  123. official protest when the Centauri used mass drivers to bombard
  124. Narn from space ([32]"The Long, Twilight Struggle.") Clearly the
  125. Vorlons don't have any qualms about attacking planets from space
  126. if _they're_ the ones doing it.
  127. * Since the Shadows have already come to Centauri Prime, could the
  128. blasted landscape of [33]"War Without End, Part Two" be due to a
  129. Vorlon attack, not the doing of the Shadows? If the Vorlons attack
  130. because of the Shadow presence, that would explain Londo's
  131. bitterness toward Sheridan, who he might consider to be on the
  132. side of the Vorlons.
  133. * Does Sheridan share the Vorlons' goal of wiping the Shadows out
  134. completely, or does he have some other plan in mind? The fact that
  135. Lorien accompanied him suggests the latter, since Lorien commented
  136. that he didn't approve of warfare among his juniors ([34]"Whatever
  137. Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?") On the other hand, his speech to the
  138. crowd did imply that he had genocide against the Shadows in mind.
  139. * The original Kosh tried to train Sheridan "to fight legends"
  140. ([35]"Hunter, Prey.") But in his speech, Sheridan appeared to be
  141. setting himself up as a legend of sorts: "the only man to come
  142. back from Z'ha'dum alive." (A claim, incidentally, which isn't
  143. true; Morden and Anna were on Z'ha'dum and left alive, if
  144. changed.) His bravado seems to indicate he now sees himself as
  145. having a larger role to play than before, and validates the
  146. Shadows' view of him as a nexus ([36]"Z'ha'dum.")
  147. Oddly, in [37]"Interludes and Examinations," Sheridan pointed out
  148. to Kosh that the _Vorlons_ were legends, or wanted to be perceived
  149. as such. Did Kosh know that eventually Sheridan might have to
  150. combat the Vorlons?
  151. * Sheridan returned from Z'ha'dum under unknown circumstances,
  152. accompanied by an alien he won't tell anyone about. Garibaldi's
  153. whereabouts were unknown for two weeks, and he turned up in a ship
  154. that self-destructed to avoid being closely investigated. Why,
  155. then, do Delenn, Ivanova, and the others accept both of them back
  156. seemingly without question? Given the threat of implanted
  157. personalities and other modifications ([38]"Divided Loyalties,"
  158. [39]"Z'ha'dum") the crew should at least be skeptical that both
  159. returnees are what they appear.
  160. * Sheridan's speech from the catwalk echoes his appearance on the
  161. catwalk in the dream in [40]"All Alone in the Night." If Garibaldi
  162. symbolized "the man in between," a description that fits Lorien at
  163. least as well as anyone else, then was the Sheridan on the catwalk
  164. "the man on the other side," presumably the other side of death?
  165. If so, Sheridan has now become that man.
  166. * G'Kar's refusal to scream was foreshadowed in [41]"The Parliament
  167. of Dreams." In that episode, when he was put into paingivers by
  168. the Narn assassin and tortured, he said he would rather die than
  169. cry out.
  170. Notes
  171. * Marcus has never been romantically involved with anyone. This was
  172. hinted at in [42]"A Late Delivery From Avalon," in which he
  173. jokingly compared himself to Sir Galahad, the chaste knight from
  174. Arthurian legend. In [43]"Ceremonies of Light and Dark," he told
  175. Delenn he'd lost a woman he cared a great deal for, but that's not
  176. necessarily a contradiction; he didn't say she felt the same way.
  177. * The scene in which Ivanova asks Delenn for one of the White Star
  178. ships was originally written and filmed for [44]"Whatever Happened
  179. to Mr. Garibaldi?" but was cut from that episode for time.
  180. * This is the first regular episode to feature all the cast members
  181. listed in the opening credits; aside from [45]"The Gathering," all
  182. the earlier episodes were missing at least one.
  183. * G'Kar was whipped 39 times, because 40 would kill a Narn. That's
  184. probably a reference to the Old Testament. [46]Deuteronomy 25:1-3
  185. warns against whipping a man more than 40 times; more than that
  186. will cause one to lose the respect of one's brothers.
  187. Some renditions of the New Testament also show Jesus being whipped
  188. 39 times by Pilate, though that number doesn't appear in the Bible
  189. itself. The Apostle Paul was whipped 39 times, which was the
  190. maximum number under Jewish law, to ensure that miscounting
  191. wouldn't cause one to give more than 40 lashes.
  192. * This is the second time Garibaldi has awakened from a traumatic
  193. event and found his commanding officer missing; Sinclair left the
  194. station while he was in a coma ([47]"Revelations.")
  195. jms speaks
  196. * _About Londo and Vir deferring to each other before the G'Kar
  197. torture scene_
  198. It's the roller coaster theory: if you move someone to horror or
  199. fear or shock from a neutral place, the emotional jump is less
  200. than if they're laughing...then suddenly you whipsaw them into the
  201. absolute emotional opposite.
  202. * I will, on *rare* occasions, address a note or correction directly
  203. to an actor while we're shooting, but in general I give any notes
  204. to the director on the set, who passes them on to the actor. There
  205. really can't be a multiplicity of voices talking to actors on the
  206. set...it can become confusing, and they can get contradictory
  207. directions. They can get skittish and lose concentration.
  208. One occasion where I *did* do this recently...in the scene where
  209. Londo explains to Cartagia why he shouldn't be killed for being
  210. late, the director had Londo playing that scene submissive and
  211. nervous in rehearsals, didn't understand that the whole point of
  212. the exercise was Londo standing up to Cartagia, but doing so in a
  213. very sly way, not giving him any room to maneuver. Cartagia likes
  214. Londo because there's intelligence and steel, in a very
  215. manipulative fashion..."you think the same way I do," Cartagia
  216. says. So before we shot the scene, I pulled Peter aside and gave
  217. him the correction, and that's how we shot it.
  218. But, again, those incidents are fairly rare.
  219. * _Do actors ever ask you for clarification?_
  220. That, yes...very often, while the actor is prepping, they'll come
  221. by my office, or at lunch ask about a particular passage, for
  222. clarification on my part, as opposed to an adjustment on their
  223. performance.
  224. * _A planet-busting weapon is so improbable as to be more magic than
  225. technology._
  226. Re: "magictech"...I believe it was Arthur C. Clarke who pointed
  227. out, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
  228. from magic."
  229. You wanna go argue with Clarke, feel free.
  230. Lemme just make one point here. In the handful of decades between
  231. the discovery of the atom, and its use at Hiroshima, we learned
  232. how to blow up substantial portions of the planet and render it
  233. uninhabitable. But it would've taken a lot of them, hundreds, to
  234. do the job. In the 50 years since then, with the development of
  235. thermonuclear weaponry, the job is even easier. It's been reckoned
  236. that you'd only need about 75 really decent sized thermonuclear
  237. detonations to render the entire continental United States dead
  238. and uninhabitable.
  239. The shadows and the vorlons are *millions* of years ahead of us.
  240. We're talking differences in technology that are orders of
  241. magnitude beyond what we can hope to comprehend.
  242. I think a planet killer eminently achievable.
  243. * _If the Shadows and Vorlons are so far advanced, why haven't the
  244. Shadows wiped everyone out already, including B5?_
  245. Because up until now, they haven't been out to destroy everyone,
  246. that's not the point...you can't sow chaos if there's no one
  247. around in which to sow that chaos. And they may have some ideas on
  248. how B5 could be turned to their advantage....
  249. * Bear in mind that the White Stars are partially based on Vorlon
  250. technology, which is similar in strength to the Shadows. That
  251. helps a lot. Also, other ships can have an influence in sufficient
  252. numbers. Even a lion can be brought down by a sufficient number of
  253. hyenas. The idea that higher technology always equals victory
  254. didn't help Custer.
  255. * I don't see it really as a change of heart...they've always been
  256. very ruthless in their way. Remember, it was the Vorlons who
  257. simply decided to off Deathwalker in first season.
  258. There's some amount of escalation going on, obviously, which will
  259. be explained a bit more in upcoming episodes, but they've always
  260. been this way, it's your perception of them that's at odds. You
  261. fell for what they wanted you to see them to be.
  262. * _Who's the worse enemy, the Shadows or the Vorlons?_
  263. Who is the greater foe?
  264. It is always the one closest to where you live.
  265. * _About the original Kosh_
  266. Certainly he came to care about us more than the vorlons intended.
  267. * _Kosh can keep secrets from Lyta when she's carrying him. Can she
  268. do the same?_
  269. She can keep secrets a little...but not if he pushes.
  270. * _Was Sheridan's uniform different?_
  271. No, that's the funny thing...I've seen a number of posts about how
  272. his uniform was changed, but it *wasn't*. It was exactly the same
  273. outfit right out of the wardrobe closet...not sewn, not cleaned,
  274. just dusted off a bit, by hand, the way he might've upon coming
  275. in. You can clearly see that the sleeve is still torn as he's up
  276. there.
  277. All I can figure is that the red Z'ha'dum lighting made it look a
  278. lot worse than it was.
  279. * _Is Ivanova's hug a sign she's attracted to Sheridan?_
  280. No, it was just relief, letting her guard down, allowing herself
  281. to feel, which she hadn't done much before this. There's no
  282. romantic interest there. You can have situations where men and
  283. women work together, and can care about one another, without it
  284. turning into more than that.
  285. Men seem to understand this less often than women.
  286. * _Sheridan seemed a lot more belligerent, and seemed to be
  287. suggesting genocide against the Shadows._
  288. Yup, I'd say it's very likely that some people close to Sheridan
  289. are going to be wondering about his attitude...and maybe even
  290. acting on it.
  291. * Someone should get outraged...and will. It's simply a matter of
  292. picking the right time and place to *do* something with it.
  293. * Certainly there will be some people who will wonder exactly the
  294. same thing you do, within the context of the show...and wonder if
  295. Sheridan's gone too far, gotten too messianic in his approach....
  296. Ah, the fun never stops....
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