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- Overview
-
- Zack makes a discovery in the search for Garibaldi. Delenn's plan
- to attack the Shadows runs into trouble. Ivanova and Marcus attempt
- to solicit aid from more First Ones. [15]Wayne Alexander as Lorien.
- [16]Wortham Krimmer as Emperor Cartagia. Eric Zivot as Verano.
- Jonathan Chapman as Ambassador Lethke.
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- [17]P5 Rating: [18]8.66
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- Production number: 403
- Original air week: November 18, 1996
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- Written by J. Michael Straczynski
- Directed by John McPherson
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- Plot Points
-
- * Lyta's telepathic abilities were enhanced by the Vorlons to enable
- her to more easily carry one of them.
- * The Vorlons, apparently determined to wipe the Shadows out once
- and for all, have begun destroying worlds that have had contact
- with the Shadows, and to that end have amassed a fleet of
- thousands of ships.
- * Sheridan has returned to Babylon 5, as has Garibaldi.
- * Initially, when the Vorlons and Shadows took on the task of
- looking after the younger races, they were equally balanced,
- obeyed rules of engagement, and respected each other's
- perspectives. But at some point, one of them grew tired of the
- arrangement and the two started fighting in earnest, with the
- younger races caught in the middle.
-
- Unanswered Questions
-
- * Who, if anyone, was on the ship that carried Garibaldi's lifepod?
- Why were they transporting him, and why did they self-destruct?
- * What was done to Garibaldi? Was he implanted with a new
- personality, like Talia Winters?
- * What was the program that activated as Garibaldi's pod was
- ejected?
- * Why did Lorien accompany Sheridan?
- * How did they get to Babylon 5? Was that Lorien's ship?
- * What exactly did Lyta learn when she scanned Kosh?
- * What exactly does Sheridan have in mind to end the war once and
- for all?
- * What happened to Marcus' family? His brother died in a Shadow
- attack ([19]"Matters of Honor,") but what about his parents?
-
- Analysis
-
- * Delenn said, "Everyone I hold dear is gone." She didn't list
- Lennier among them. Why not?
- * Lyta says she allowed the Vorlons to modify her because she
- believed. Believed in what? What did they tell her about their
- intentions? Does she know anything about the Shadows and Vorlons,
- and the nature of their conflict, that Sheridan would find useful?
- * What made the Vorlons change their strategy? Most likely it has
- something to do with the "unexpected door" they feel Sheridan
- opened on Z'ha'dum ([20]"The Hour of the Wolf.") By attempting to
- wipe out the Shadows, it's arguable they've lost the war on a
- philosophical level; attempting to wipe out a race to gain
- supremacy is exactly the method the Shadows advocate.
- On the other hand, if there's no way to get the Shadows to stop
- fighting and causing wars except by completely destroying them,
- the Vorlons may have reached the conclusion that the very
- existence of the Shadows means their philosophy can never take
- hold.
- * Given that the old Kosh, at least according to Lyta, cared about
- the younger races, would he have approved of the Vorlons' change
- in strategy? If not, will the piece of him still alive in Sheridan
- try to stop the plan?
- * Lyta referred to the old Kosh as "the _real_ Kosh." What isn't
- real about the new Kosh? What is the new Kosh's actual name (or
- its human-pronounceable version?)
- * Lorien's visit to B5 would seem to indicate that he, at least,
- still cares about the younger races. What can he do about it?
- Presumably he'll be able to provide valuable information, but does
- he have any capabilities beyond that? For example, does he have
- access to technology millions of years more advanced than even the
- Shadows and Vorlons?
- In [21]"Whatever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?" he appeared to have a
- significant presence on the "dream plane" (for lack of a better
- term) through which Kosh sent the dreams to Sheridan in [22]"All
- Alone in the Night" and [23]"Interludes and Examinations." It's
- plausible that that's where much of a Vorlon's consciousness
- lives; if so, Lorien may be capable of much more direct impact on
- the Vorlons than his physical presence implies. Whether the same
- is true in the Shadows' case is less clear, but the fact that the
- Eye at Z'ha'dum found Ivanova while she was in the Great Machine
- ([24]"Voices of Authority") suggests that they too have some
- presence in that mode of existence.
- * Destroying planets may seem excessive, but perhaps the Vorlons are
- doing so, rather than simply wiping out all surface life, because
- of the Shadows' habit of burying their ships underground
- ([25]"Messages From Earth") and building cities underground
- ([26]"Z'ha'dum.") They may feel that completely destroying a
- planet that's been visited by the Shadows is the only way to
- ensure that there are no surprises left behind.
- * Is the current Vorlon rampage due in part to the death of the
- original Kosh at the hands of the Shadows? If so, there's a
- parallel to the Earth-Minbari War, in which, according to Delenn
- ([27]"Ceremonies of Light and Dark") the Minbari went collectively
- mad after the death of their leader Dukhat at human hands.
- * By wiping out younger races as they battle the Shadows, the
- Vorlons can no longer really claim to be looking after their
- juniors. What will the other First Ones think of that? They don't
- seem to be on particularly good terms with the Vorlons to begin
- with ([28]"Voices of Authority") and this change in attitude may
- further irritate their peers. Lorien will likely be able to
- provide greater insight into the feelings of the other First Ones
- toward the Vorlons.
- * If the Vorlons are truly intent on wiping out any worlds the
- Shadows have touched, that means they'll be targeting Mars,
- Centauri Prime, Earth, and B5. Depending on how recently a planet
- has to have had contact to be considered tainted, they may also
- destroy Narn. Only the Minbari seem, so far, to have never been
- under Shadow influence, so their homeworld may be spared.
- The only evidence so far of Shadow influence is the assassination
- attempt against Kosh in [29]"The Gathering," but given that the
- Shadows didn't try to touch Kosh until the Vorlon offensive in
- [30]"Interludes and Examinations," the hallway meeting in
- [31]"Signs and Portents" notwithstanding (Kosh initiated that
- confrontation too) it's more likely the Minbari warriors were
- acting of their own volition.
- * The Vorlons' new tack is somewhat ironic, given that they filed an
- official protest when the Centauri used mass drivers to bombard
- Narn from space ([32]"The Long, Twilight Struggle.") Clearly the
- Vorlons don't have any qualms about attacking planets from space
- if _they're_ the ones doing it.
- * Since the Shadows have already come to Centauri Prime, could the
- blasted landscape of [33]"War Without End, Part Two" be due to a
- Vorlon attack, not the doing of the Shadows? If the Vorlons attack
- because of the Shadow presence, that would explain Londo's
- bitterness toward Sheridan, who he might consider to be on the
- side of the Vorlons.
- * Does Sheridan share the Vorlons' goal of wiping the Shadows out
- completely, or does he have some other plan in mind? The fact that
- Lorien accompanied him suggests the latter, since Lorien commented
- that he didn't approve of warfare among his juniors ([34]"Whatever
- Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?") On the other hand, his speech to the
- crowd did imply that he had genocide against the Shadows in mind.
- * The original Kosh tried to train Sheridan "to fight legends"
- ([35]"Hunter, Prey.") But in his speech, Sheridan appeared to be
- setting himself up as a legend of sorts: "the only man to come
- back from Z'ha'dum alive." (A claim, incidentally, which isn't
- true; Morden and Anna were on Z'ha'dum and left alive, if
- changed.) His bravado seems to indicate he now sees himself as
- having a larger role to play than before, and validates the
- Shadows' view of him as a nexus ([36]"Z'ha'dum.")
- Oddly, in [37]"Interludes and Examinations," Sheridan pointed out
- to Kosh that the _Vorlons_ were legends, or wanted to be perceived
- as such. Did Kosh know that eventually Sheridan might have to
- combat the Vorlons?
- * Sheridan returned from Z'ha'dum under unknown circumstances,
- accompanied by an alien he won't tell anyone about. Garibaldi's
- whereabouts were unknown for two weeks, and he turned up in a ship
- that self-destructed to avoid being closely investigated. Why,
- then, do Delenn, Ivanova, and the others accept both of them back
- seemingly without question? Given the threat of implanted
- personalities and other modifications ([38]"Divided Loyalties,"
- [39]"Z'ha'dum") the crew should at least be skeptical that both
- returnees are what they appear.
- * Sheridan's speech from the catwalk echoes his appearance on the
- catwalk in the dream in [40]"All Alone in the Night." If Garibaldi
- symbolized "the man in between," a description that fits Lorien at
- least as well as anyone else, then was the Sheridan on the catwalk
- "the man on the other side," presumably the other side of death?
- If so, Sheridan has now become that man.
- * G'Kar's refusal to scream was foreshadowed in [41]"The Parliament
- of Dreams." In that episode, when he was put into paingivers by
- the Narn assassin and tortured, he said he would rather die than
- cry out.
-
- Notes
-
- * Marcus has never been romantically involved with anyone. This was
- hinted at in [42]"A Late Delivery From Avalon," in which he
- jokingly compared himself to Sir Galahad, the chaste knight from
- Arthurian legend. In [43]"Ceremonies of Light and Dark," he told
- Delenn he'd lost a woman he cared a great deal for, but that's not
- necessarily a contradiction; he didn't say she felt the same way.
- * The scene in which Ivanova asks Delenn for one of the White Star
- ships was originally written and filmed for [44]"Whatever Happened
- to Mr. Garibaldi?" but was cut from that episode for time.
- * This is the first regular episode to feature all the cast members
- listed in the opening credits; aside from [45]"The Gathering," all
- the earlier episodes were missing at least one.
- * G'Kar was whipped 39 times, because 40 would kill a Narn. That's
- probably a reference to the Old Testament. [46]Deuteronomy 25:1-3
- warns against whipping a man more than 40 times; more than that
- will cause one to lose the respect of one's brothers.
- Some renditions of the New Testament also show Jesus being whipped
- 39 times by Pilate, though that number doesn't appear in the Bible
- itself. The Apostle Paul was whipped 39 times, which was the
- maximum number under Jewish law, to ensure that miscounting
- wouldn't cause one to give more than 40 lashes.
- * This is the second time Garibaldi has awakened from a traumatic
- event and found his commanding officer missing; Sinclair left the
- station while he was in a coma ([47]"Revelations.")
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- jms speaks
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- * _About Londo and Vir deferring to each other before the G'Kar
- torture scene_
- It's the roller coaster theory: if you move someone to horror or
- fear or shock from a neutral place, the emotional jump is less
- than if they're laughing...then suddenly you whipsaw them into the
- absolute emotional opposite.
- * I will, on *rare* occasions, address a note or correction directly
- to an actor while we're shooting, but in general I give any notes
- to the director on the set, who passes them on to the actor. There
- really can't be a multiplicity of voices talking to actors on the
- set...it can become confusing, and they can get contradictory
- directions. They can get skittish and lose concentration.
- One occasion where I *did* do this recently...in the scene where
- Londo explains to Cartagia why he shouldn't be killed for being
- late, the director had Londo playing that scene submissive and
- nervous in rehearsals, didn't understand that the whole point of
- the exercise was Londo standing up to Cartagia, but doing so in a
- very sly way, not giving him any room to maneuver. Cartagia likes
- Londo because there's intelligence and steel, in a very
- manipulative fashion..."you think the same way I do," Cartagia
- says. So before we shot the scene, I pulled Peter aside and gave
- him the correction, and that's how we shot it.
- But, again, those incidents are fairly rare.
- * _Do actors ever ask you for clarification?_
- That, yes...very often, while the actor is prepping, they'll come
- by my office, or at lunch ask about a particular passage, for
- clarification on my part, as opposed to an adjustment on their
- performance.
- * _A planet-busting weapon is so improbable as to be more magic than
- technology._
- Re: "magictech"...I believe it was Arthur C. Clarke who pointed
- out, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable
- from magic."
- You wanna go argue with Clarke, feel free.
- Lemme just make one point here. In the handful of decades between
- the discovery of the atom, and its use at Hiroshima, we learned
- how to blow up substantial portions of the planet and render it
- uninhabitable. But it would've taken a lot of them, hundreds, to
- do the job. In the 50 years since then, with the development of
- thermonuclear weaponry, the job is even easier. It's been reckoned
- that you'd only need about 75 really decent sized thermonuclear
- detonations to render the entire continental United States dead
- and uninhabitable.
- The shadows and the vorlons are *millions* of years ahead of us.
- We're talking differences in technology that are orders of
- magnitude beyond what we can hope to comprehend.
- I think a planet killer eminently achievable.
- * _If the Shadows and Vorlons are so far advanced, why haven't the
- Shadows wiped everyone out already, including B5?_
- Because up until now, they haven't been out to destroy everyone,
- that's not the point...you can't sow chaos if there's no one
- around in which to sow that chaos. And they may have some ideas on
- how B5 could be turned to their advantage....
- * Bear in mind that the White Stars are partially based on Vorlon
- technology, which is similar in strength to the Shadows. That
- helps a lot. Also, other ships can have an influence in sufficient
- numbers. Even a lion can be brought down by a sufficient number of
- hyenas. The idea that higher technology always equals victory
- didn't help Custer.
- * I don't see it really as a change of heart...they've always been
- very ruthless in their way. Remember, it was the Vorlons who
- simply decided to off Deathwalker in first season.
- There's some amount of escalation going on, obviously, which will
- be explained a bit more in upcoming episodes, but they've always
- been this way, it's your perception of them that's at odds. You
- fell for what they wanted you to see them to be.
- * _Who's the worse enemy, the Shadows or the Vorlons?_
- Who is the greater foe?
- It is always the one closest to where you live.
- * _About the original Kosh_
- Certainly he came to care about us more than the vorlons intended.
- * _Kosh can keep secrets from Lyta when she's carrying him. Can she
- do the same?_
- She can keep secrets a little...but not if he pushes.
- * _Was Sheridan's uniform different?_
- No, that's the funny thing...I've seen a number of posts about how
- his uniform was changed, but it *wasn't*. It was exactly the same
- outfit right out of the wardrobe closet...not sewn, not cleaned,
- just dusted off a bit, by hand, the way he might've upon coming
- in. You can clearly see that the sleeve is still torn as he's up
- there.
- All I can figure is that the red Z'ha'dum lighting made it look a
- lot worse than it was.
- * _Is Ivanova's hug a sign she's attracted to Sheridan?_
- No, it was just relief, letting her guard down, allowing herself
- to feel, which she hadn't done much before this. There's no
- romantic interest there. You can have situations where men and
- women work together, and can care about one another, without it
- turning into more than that.
- Men seem to understand this less often than women.
- * _Sheridan seemed a lot more belligerent, and seemed to be
- suggesting genocide against the Shadows._
- Yup, I'd say it's very likely that some people close to Sheridan
- are going to be wondering about his attitude...and maybe even
- acting on it.
- * Someone should get outraged...and will. It's simply a matter of
- picking the right time and place to *do* something with it.
- * Certainly there will be some people who will wonder exactly the
- same thing you do, within the context of the show...and wonder if
- Sheridan's gone too far, gotten too messianic in his approach....
- Ah, the fun never stops....
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