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- _Contents:_ [9]Overview - [10]Backplot - [11]Questions - [12]Analysis
- - [13]Notes - [14]JMS
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- Overview
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- When President Clark tries to seize control of Babylon 5 by force,
- Sheridan is faced with the prospect of severing the station's ties
- with Earth. Delenn receives disturbing news from a Ranger.
- [15]Bruce McGill as Major Ryan. [16]Kim Miyori as Captain Hiroshi.
- [17]James Parks as Drakhen.
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- [18]P5 Rating: [19]9.81
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- Production number: 310
- Original air week: April 1, 1996
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- Written by J. Michael Straczynski
- Directed by David Eagle
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- Winner of the 1997 Hugo award for Best Dramatic Presentation.
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- _Note: this episode is more momentous than most. Think twice before
- proceeding to the spoilers if you haven't seen it._
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- Backplot
-
- * The former Minbari leader, Dukhat, died in Delenn's arms. Before
- he died, he named her as his chosen successor.
- * Clark has been filling command positions with his people since
- taking office, thus enabling him to retain control of most of
- Earth Force; many officers who oppose his policies feel forced to
- go along, since their superiors will accuse them of treason
- otherwise.
- * The Shadows have formed alliances with many of the non-aligned
- worlds, allegedly to protect them from Centauri aggression; later,
- they've prompted those races to attack their neighbors with the
- belief that association with the Shadows is a guarantee of
- victory.
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- Unanswered Questions
-
- * Was Londo finally able to leave the station? Where was he going?
- (Or, if he was coming aboard, where was he coming from?)
- * Is there more to the prophecy of the return of the Shadows, or has
- it now played itself out, leaving the future uncertain?
- * What _does_ Sheridan's mother do with her time?
- * What has ISN known for a year but been unable to talk about? Did
- they find out about Santiago's death, or perhaps about Earth's
- involvement with the Shadows?
-
- Analysis
-
- * Sheridan said he wanted to keep Draal a secret, and thus didn't
- ask for help defending the station. But anyone with two eyes now
- knows he has some interesting non-human technology at his
- disposal; he used the Great Machine to broadcast his holographic
- image all over the station. While Earth has free-floating
- holography (such as the Knights' image of Sinclair at the
- beginning of [20]"And the Sky Full of Stars") it's a far cry from
- what Sheridan did.
- * Five hooded Councilors followed Delenn from the council chamber;
- presumably the remaining four were all warrior caste, as
- established in [21]"All Alone in the Night." (Only three are
- visible onscreen, but the whole Council wasn't visible at the
- start of the scene, either.)
- * Where did the religious and worker castes get three Minbari
- warships and the crews to pilot them? Are there more on Delenn's
- side, or just those? In [22]"Matters of Honor," Lennier implied
- that the religious-caste crew of the White Star was rare, if not
- unheard-of. Did some of the warrior caste side with Delenn? (See
- [23]jms speaks)
- * Delenn's confrontation with the Grey Council is counter to her own
- stated goal of laying low so the Shadows aren't forced to attack
- immediately. She accused them of standing by and doing nothing in
- the face of Shadow encroachment -- but doing nothing was exactly
- what she insisted on in [24]"In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum," among
- other places. If the warrior caste had moved to prevent some of
- the non-aligned worlds from warring, as she seemed to be
- suggesting, it surely would have alerted the Shadows to the fact
- that their return has been discovered.
- On the other hand, it may be that she was accusing them of not
- even preparing for eventual open conflict with the Shadows;
- perhaps she believed their current indifference would continue
- even after the army of light was fully assembled.
- Finally, she may have wanted them to simply take a stand in the
- local conflicts without addressing the Shadows' presence directly.
- * Sheridan's secession from the Earth Alliance plays directly into
- Clark's hands in some respects. Clark can use the secession, and
- the Minbari involvement, to paint a picture of an alien-supported
- military coup against an elected civilian government, further
- proof of the need for martial law, the Nightwatch, and other
- draconian measures. No doubt he'll be able to make that version of
- the story believable to a large number of people back home, thus
- solidifying his power base.
- * Why did only four destroyers jump into Babylon 5 space for the
- initial attack? Perhaps the fleet commander didn't want to
- increase the chance of casualties from friendly fire, but that
- seems dubious at best; or perhaps he didn't know there were more
- ships on the way.
- * Which side of the war does the Agamemnon and its crew support?
- Will Sheridan be forced into conflict with his old ship, something
- he definitely doesn't want? ([25]"Messages From Earth")
- * Given the reason for the Minbari surrender during the war
- ([26]"Points of Departure") would Delenn have made good on her
- threat to fire on the Earth ships? Minbari religious beliefs would
- forbid her from doing so, though she might well consider it a
- necessary evil.
- * During the initial attack on the Alexander, Major Ryan claims that
- they can't jump to hyperspace without losing their fighters. But
- fighters have been shown jumping alongside a larger ship before --
- some emerged with the destroyers to attack Babylon 5 later in the
- same episode -- so what would have kept the fighters from jumping
- with the Alexander? (See [27]jms speaks)
- * The Shadows are apparently perfectly willing to double-cross the
- Centauri, at least in words. By offering to protect the League
- worlds from Centauri aggression, when the Centauri are using the
- Shadows to act out that aggression, they've effectively taken
- control of both sides of any potential Centauri border conflicts.
- What they'll do with that control, and why they want it, remains
- to be seen.
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- Notes
-
- * The new Starfury in this episode is called a "Thunderbolt."
- * Many of the Nightwatch members in this episode are production
- staff members, including the production secretary and an assistant
- director.
- * Minor effects mismatch: A group of Starfuries attacks a friendly
- destroyer. Its name is clearly visible as the Churchill. But the
- scene immediately cuts to Major Ryan reacting to the hit -- even
- though he's on the Alexander, not the Churchill. (See [28]jms
- speaks)
- * Just after Major Ryan says, "Right down their throats," a Starfury
- shoots another one with B5 in the background. For one frame, the
- exploding Starfury is replaced with a bright yellow square; then
- the explosion replaces it.
- * Four ships emerge from the jumpgate at the end of act three, two
- Omega-class destroyers and two older Hyperion-style heavy cruisers
- ([29]"A Voice In the Wilderness, part 2.") But we only see and
- hear about two, the Agrippa and the Roanoke. One possible
- explanation is that the destroyer rammed by the Churchill isn't
- supposed to be the Roanoke; since Sheridan offers assistance to
- the Roanoke at the end of the battle, that's plausible. However,
- the rammed ship's name is (barely) visible as "Roanoke" during the
- collision.
- * One of the two destroyers in the second wave was called the
- Nimrod; the second was the Olympic.
- * The Roanoke is named after an early English colony in North
- Carolina. After a hard winter, a ship came to check on the colony
- and found it totally deserted, no sign of the inhabitants or of a
- struggle, just the word CROATAN carved into a tree. The fate of
- the colonists was never discovered.
- * The Agrippa was probably named for the famed Roman
- general/admiral, Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa. He served for Octavian
- (Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus), the nephew of Julius Caesar. He
- was the inventor of the harpax, or harpago, which was a pole with
- a hook on the end which was attached to a rope. Fired toward
- another ship, it allowed the two ships to be pulled together,
- allowing the Romans to board. It was first used in 36 BC at the
- battle of Naulochos (Mylae), and later at the battle of Actium,
- where it helped to defeat Mark Anthony's fleet, leading to the
- eventual crowning of Octavian as Augustus, the first Roman emperor
- in 27 BC.
- * In the UK video release, three seconds were cut from the episode,
- presumably from one of the boarding-party fight scenes.
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- jms speaks
-
- * The number of scenes varies depending on the amount of action
- required. On balance, the average TV script has about 60-75 scenes
- or shots in it. From time to time, in B5, we've gone as high as
- 130 shots in episodes like "Twilight" or "Fall." I think we just
- blew out our record here with "Severed Dreams," which has close to
- 140.
- Number of scenes shot on any day depends on how long the scene;
- you can do 4 really long shots or 8 fairly short scenes. The
- amount of rehearsal varies depending on the scene, how many extras
- or what kind of action/stunts are required. The more action, the
- more you rehearse, to ensure nobody gets hurt.
- * Much as I'd have wished PTEN would've aired 10, the final part of
- the 3-episode arc that changes direction on the show, a week after
- 9, even though it'd be out of sweeps period...it's probably for
- the best. When producer George Johnson saw the scrpt for #10,
- "Severed Dreams," he laughed, walked over to me and said, "Boy,
- this is the best episode we're never gonna deliver. ARE YOU
- NUTS?!"
- As an example of "ARE YOU NUTS?!" in "The Fall of Night," in the
- sequence between the first Garden shot and the end of Sheridan's
- rescue, about 6-7 pages of script, there were, I think, about 60
- or 65 EFX and practical shots. In just the span of 4 pages in 310
- there are roughly 100 EFX and practical shots. In EFX terms, it's
- probably one of the biggest shows we've done, so it's better to
- give Foundation a little extra time to get it right rather than
- rush them.
- * All I'll say here is that there were *so* many EFX here that we
- mixed the episode a few days before delivery, and got it down
- there 2 hours before the process for uplinking the episode to
- stations. It was the hardest thing we've ever done...but it was
- worth it.
- * _Why are these three episodes not marked as a three-parter?_
- For the most part, it's a matter of how the episodes feel to me,
- what length they feel as if they require. When I did the big three
- this year -- Messages, Point and Dreams -- I hadn't really figured
- they'd be as tightly connected as they ended up being. I knew
- they'd relate strongly to one another, but in a sense, they're
- really a three parter. The War Without End story I knew was WAY
- too big for one episode, but due to the structure of the story
- wouldn't take being extended for one more episode; at that point
- you'd just be dragging it out.
- It's all instinct, I wish I had a more concrete answer.
- * I think you hit the distinction between MfE and PoNR...the former
- is exciting, the latter is tense, with "Severed Dreams" a good
- blend of the two, particularly the latter. We did our final
- producer's cut today, and man, it moves....
- * _Why the title?_
- If B5 was a dream given form, and the EA had the potential to be
- something more than it has become, and the two part ways, then you
- have severed dreams. (I had a much more elegant and interesting
- reply, but obviously it entered Vorlon space and hasn't been
- allowed out again.)
- * "Messages," for my money, is so far the best we've ever done,
- though I'll be more able to lock that down once I've seen the
- final CGI. It and "Dreams" are real CGI blowouts; in the latter,
- there are literally 100 shots -- CGI, live action, and compositing
- -- in *four pages* of action. This is an all time record for us
- (and that doesn't count the stuff earlier in the episode).
- * Have begun shooting episode 11, "Messages From Earth," a hideously
- complex episode, outmatched only by #10, "Severed Dreams," which
- is the single most visually ambitious episode we've done in the
- three years of the show. It's just totally outrageous, and it'll
- probably kill us in sheer man-hours to produce...but the result
- should drop jaws all over the place.
- * Re: Foundation "adding a new flame effect"...sort of. One night,
- we just went out into the parking lot, set up a camera pointing up
- behind a plexiglass screen, and set off a bunch of explosions
- above it. Went great until one of the blasts was so big it melted
- through the plex *and* the camera lens....
- Looked good though, didn't it?
- * _The PPG blasts looked different._
- That was because there were so MANY of them; our PPG bursts
- usually take a great deal of work. If we'd given all of them in
- this scene that amount of work, we'd still be doing them.
- * _How did you do the lighting as Ivanova's ship tumbled?_
- We fixed a light atop a gimble, and pre-determined the rotation of
- the starfury, then moved the lighting to match. Gives it a much
- more realistic feel.
- * "In an ep like "Severed Dreams" where cgi effects take up
- literally almost 1/4 of the script, how much input does the
- director have on "camera" angles, close ups of 'Fury pilots, and
- the way in which the SFX is intercut with live action? Or is that
- entirely your job?"
- Generally, a lot of that material is either storyboarded, or
- supervised by our on set EFX supervisor, who determines the angles
- to be used. This is especially important in an episode like
- Severed Dreams when you have to make sure that the pilots are
- oriented the right way on camera (i.e., going from left to right,
- and facing left to right) if that's the direction their ships are
- going in; otherwise you'd have to flop the film to make it match.
- In larger set pieces, using virtual sets and composite shots, the
- director has more influence.
- * _From coproducer George Johnsen, about the [30]effects glitch_
- The show was seriously under the gun for delivery when those shots
- were done. If I remember correctly, a couple of these shots came
- in on the same day we were to deliver, and there was no time to
- re-render them and still make the satellite.
- If I were to tell you it would never happen again, I would be a
- big liar, or a deluded optomist, but we try. Animators are human,
- after all! :-)
- * Funny thing is, how much as you note the show corresponds to some
- of the things Mira's been through...some of it intentional,
- knowing that if I dig into this area, it'll come out of her with
- the ring of truth...some of it quite unintentional. When I
- finished writing "Severed Dreams," and the actors got it, Mira's
- first words to me were, "So...how long DID you live in
- Yugoslavia?" The parallel wasn't intentional...but it fit.
- * Toni: thanks. All of the characters shine in this one, Mira in
- particular as Delenn. It's a nice contrast; her speech to the Grey
- Council is an intense piece of work that goes on for a while; her
- declaration to the EA ships is short, to the point, and absolutely
- deadly. The right tool for the right job.
- I'm utterly pleased and proud of the job we did here. Partly
- because it's just so nifty on its own terms, and partly because it
- gives us a new level to try and beat. Up until now, I've been
- looking to top "Coming of Shadows;" now the goal is to top this
- one...and I think it's possible there may be one or two even this
- season that'll do that, but tonally I think they're different
- enough that it might end up as a tie.
- I definitely wanted the close-in, hand-to-hand fighting to
- personalize what's going on. It's also very logical strategically.
- You send in your forces to disable or overwhelm C&C, distract
- them, slip in a cadre of troops to a station that (you hope)
- didn't know you were coming...then they race to C&C and seize
- control from inside, shooting anyone they have to en route. If
- Sheridan et al hadn't known the ships were coming in, this
- could've gone very differently. But once they were in, they were
- in close quarters, and you want to get in closer if you're on the
- defensive side so that they can't use their weapons without
- cutting down their own people. After that you have to hope you can
- overwhelm the intruders with sheer force of numbers. It's an ugly,
- awful way to win a fight, because it *guarantees* casualties...but
- what war doesn't?
- Something to bear in mind when rewatching, btw...it was during
- this scene that Jerry fell and broke his right arm and right
- wrist. And they still had one last scene to film. He stuck it out
- and they rolled film, to get the shot of him and Zack at the end
- of the fight. Next time you watch it, keep an eye on the right arm
- as he releases the helmet...it bends in directions never intended
- by evolution.
- * I agree, but Jerry was determined to do it, and more time would've
- been lost arguing about it than it took to do the takes.
- * The arm broken was his right arm and wrist; we worked it into the
- show, in a way which actually worked well with what went right
- before it. Jerry's doing fine now.
- * Oddly enough, Jerry's broken arm tied *beautifully* into something
- that had happened in the course of the episode we were filming, so
- all it took was a line or two to sell it.
- The funny thing is...in the very next episode after the incident,
- there was a line in the script I'd written *weeks* earlier, and it
- freaked everybody out...when Garibaldi asks someone to do
- something, and the person responds, "What, you've got a broken arm
- or something?" At first some people thought I'd put it in there to
- pink Jerry, but it'd been there the whole time. Similarly, in the
- Claudia incident, there was a line (cut for time) where Sheridan
- says talking to the Drazi is like trying to talk to your right
- foot...and Ivanova replies "I'll have you know I have a sublime
- relationship with my right foot." Yep, the next day...that's the
- foot she broke.
- Just recently, I was trying to explain time travel to one of the
- actors. I used the analogy, over lunch, "Suppose you finished
- eating your chicken here, then got sick as a dog a few hours
- later, then got in a time machine to go back in time and warn
- yourself not to eat the chicken." Well, a few hours after
- that...the actor got sick as a dog from the chicken.
- I have been asked, expressly, not to make any further mention of
- actors' body parts in scripts....
- * We shot that last scene with Garibaldi *after* we'd shot the
- sequence showing his injured leg. We don't shoot in sequence. So
- we had to cover it in the next episode.
- * We shot the last scene with the cane *before* we shot the scene in
- which Jerry broke his arm. It costs way too much to go back and
- reshoot. At the time we shot the later scene, he hadn't yet broken
- his arm.
- And G'Kar isn't all the way in yet; he wants to be, but so far
- he's still being held at arm's length a bit...he may make an issue
- of this.
- * Actually, though, because he *did* have his hand in his pocket, it
- let me handle the break in the next episode without stretching
- credulity too far. It was...well...I guess you'd call that part of
- it a lucky break.
- * _Is General Hague shown?_
- Foxworth was slated for "Severed Dreams" when he bailed on us.
- * We had booked Foxworth long in advance. Later, out of the blue, a
- rep for the actor said that by accident he'd been double-booked on
- B5 and DS9 for the same period...and even though we had prior
- claim, because the other was a two-parter, more money, they went
- for that. One can only wonder when the other offer *really* came
- in....
- * The Foxworth bail resulted in a change of about three lines,
- that's about it. You'll know which lines when you hear them.
- * We'd booked the actor long, long in advance. At the last minute,
- he bailed to do a DS9 episode playing, essentially, the same
- character, despite our having first dibs.
- So I killed off the character. Didn't change the story by the
- smallest measure. May actually have helped, since it raised the
- stakes in the story right from the start.
- Rule #1: Never honk off the writer.
- * Regarding Hague...it's much harder to hold an actor on a
- once-in-a-while basis. Every show is hostage to that. It's a
- reality of life. We don't have contracts with folks who play one
- or two parts a year. Screen Actors Guild doesn't allow that; you
- make deals as they come up. You can't stop an actor if he wants to
- jump ship under those conditions; and if you try, you have an
- unhappy actor on your set who'll just walk through it because he
- or she doesn't want to be there.
- * Re: Foxworth...it was really the only thing to do. I'd created the
- character *specifically* to have him available for this episode,
- after which he'd basically fade away while others took up his
- standard. It was all leading up to this. Without being in this
- episode, there was nothing more to do with Hague, hence I felt
- quite comfortable with his fate, it changed nothing.
- * _Major Ryan was overstepping his rank._
- Except, of course, you now have an extraordinary situation in
- which the Major, through the death of his CO, was now the
- commanding officer of the Alexander. In ordinary circumstances,
- this would mean he'd be given a field promotion.
- Second, I don't recall any situation where the Major was "giving
- orders to a commander." The aide on the deck of the Alexander was
- a Lieutenant, as I recall. Also, if Hague indicated that he was to
- be given command as he died, that would likely be honored.
- Finally, yes, the Major was involved in the discussions of
- strategy, but in *every case* he presented Sheridan and Hiroshi
- with options, and because it was Sheridan's neck of the woods, it
- was left to Sheridan to give orders. He coordinated the defense,
- and was the only one speaking directly with the Agrippa.
- * I think Sheridan was kinda up to his ears in matters graver than
- the Major's field promotion, though you're right, he had one
- coming (as I noted in an earlier message). Given that they'd just
- broken away from Earthforce, and walked away from the rank
- structure to some extent, it would seem a rather indulgent
- exercise, since Earth certainly wouldn't recognize the field
- promotion of a renegade officer.
- * "...hit between the eyes." Yeah, that's the correct reaction, I'd
- say.
- Yes, it's easy to fire on the enemy when it's a faceless entity;
- not as easy when it's someone you know. Kinda brings it home,
- makes it personal.
- * Exactly. If you're going to do something as monumental as what
- Sheridan does here re: B5's status and Earth, it can't be done
- lightly or frivolously or without sufficient cause. It has to be
- an absolutely last resort. If we'd done it any sooner, it would've
- been less effective, and more of a cheat.
- And yes, after two breather stories, "Ship of Tears" starts the
- arc moving again, and with very few exceptions doesn't let up for
- the rest of the season.
- * _About the warning sign in [31]"Dust to Dust"_
- Yes, the sign does indeed say warning. Look for another sign right
- behind somebody at the end of "Severed Dreams."
- * Actually, yes, I tend to ask for musical counterpoint in the show
- from time to time. For instance, when Sheridan et al were going to
- the area where the crowd was waiting, I told Chris to fool
- us...give us an ominous sounding sting going into what's going to
- be a very "up" scene. In the battle earlier on, when you'd
- normally do something fast and exciting, I asked him to give me
- something more somber, to pull out the Requiem theme in a few
- places. Sometimes, in other shows, I ask for music that works
- against a scene to control the emotional core of it; if it's a bit
- too silly, perhaps, then I go for a more serious musical cue to
- balance it out. Where a scene would seem to ask for major keys, I
- go for minor chords.
- It's all just part of the tapestry.
- (BTW, a little secret...just for fun, I wrote a couple of songs
- that you'll be hearing in an upcoming episode. I used to write
- songs here and there, even did a couple for an ABC prime-time
- special, and figured I'd try it again. I wrote the lyrics,
- discussed the music with Chris, and he took care of the score, and
- it's about what I first conceived. Came out pretty well,
- actually.)
- * _Where was Kosh during all this?_
- Yeah...Kosh seems to have retreated a bit so far...worrying, that.
- * _Why didn't Sheridan ask for help from Draal or Delenn?_
- The other thing to bear in mind about all this is the question of
- a "clean fight." If Sheridan were to bring in alien forces at his
- order to kill humans, it would pretty much destroy his
- credibility. Delenn came in at the end but only after he'd made
- his stand on his own.
- One of the things that kicked off the French Revolution was the
- allegation that the King had brought in or was bringing in
- Prussian troops to help put down dissenters. As long as it was all
- more or less in the family, that was one thing...but to bring in
- outsiders was an absolute affront to them. (One of the singular
- incidents that started the fighting itself was a group of Prussian
- soldiers sighted sitting in a cafe having lunch, which caused this
- rumor about outsiders coming in to spread like wildfire, and led
- to the some of the first major incidents of rioting.)
- Two brothers may fight one another, but let a third unrelated
- person come in and shove one of the brothers around, and they'll
- *both* turn on him.
- During the worst days of the civil war, even Lincoln was offered
- assistance in troops from at least one other country; he declined,
- because it was an internal matter, and had to be resolved by those
- involved, not outsiders.
- Sheridan's logic was exactly the same. It had to be a clean fight.
- * We'll establish in coming episodes that they have to become more
- self sufficient; the Minbari will help some, others will also have
- a reason to help support the station for the advantages it gives
- them, the services it provides, and eventually docking fees will
- have to rise if they can make a go of it.
- * I'd have to check my figures, which are at the office and I'm at
- home, but I *think* we've got about 600 crew and support on a
- Minbari cruiser.
- * Yes, the push in on Delenn revealed her in the White Star, and
- yes, a fair number of the new 'furies B5 inherited are Thunderbolt
- class.
- * "Severed Dreams had a line that was better than Ivanava's sex
- scene. Wow, do these women get lines!"
- Can't help it. I've always been vastly enamoured of strong, sharp,
- funny, independent and strong-willed women. (Well, me and 99% of
- the rest of the male population, most of them just won't admit
- it.)
- I love it when anyone -- male or female -- comes up with a killer
- line. Claudia and I are always going at it, each trying to top the
- other...and I've found out the hard way that you don't challenge
- her on the theory that she'll back down. Won't happen. Ivanova's
- just the same. Mira is also dedicated, fierce in her convictions,
- extremely bright and worldly.
- So why should their characters be any less than the women
- themselves?
- * "...my favorite part, I must say was when Sheridan kissed Delenns
- hand. I've been waiting anxiously for this to happen and it
- finally did! My housemates all laughed at me but I guess I'm just
- an incurable romantic."
- This is a problem?
- We are in need of more romance.
- * _Aren't Starfuries space-only craft?_
- Yes, the Thunderbolt furies were seen both on Mars and attacking
- B5.
- A normal Starfury can't function in an atmosphere environment. The
- new Thunderbolt models have airfoils/wings that are folded back
- over the body of the ship for non-atmospheric maneuvering, and
- then extend out to full sized wings when entering an atmosphere.
- (You'll get to see in detail how this works back and forth in
- "Ship of Tears.")
- * _How does ejection from a Starfury work?_
- You can see explosive bolts going off, and a series of small
- thrusters behind the cockpit are which allow for navigation. This
- gets the pilot away from the main body which has either been
- crippled, or is about to explode, the same way a modern fighter
- has an ejection system. (Check the main credit sequence for a
- better shot of an ejection.)
- * _How did the pilots tell which other Starfuries were which?_
- FOF...Friend Or Foe systems on board the furies.
- * _About the Alexander/Clarkstown battle_
- The interceptors have two components, one that throws a ball of
- energy at an incoming weapons charge (physical or energy) and
- causes dissipation, and the other is a net-like energy web that
- reduces the severity, but does not deflect or absorb, beam type
- energy. This allows some time for maneuvers after beam contact.
- Note that Major Ryan (He'll always be D-Day to my brother!) was
- very reticent to fire on the Clarkstown at all. Knowing that the
- Interceptors were down made his job all the more difficult. The
- rear facing beamn on the Alexander is similar in design to the
- front facers on the Clarkstown. When the C-town fired on the
- rotating section ofthe Alexander, it did not explode, as the
- interceptors were still active.
- George Johnsen
- CoProducer, B5
- * If you're opening a jump point, usually you make it a habit to
- have all your fighters on board or else risk leaving them behind.
- A jump gate can be more easily used and held open for fighters.
- When you arrive at your destination, you can launch your fighters
- as you emerge.
- * "Why was it impossible to jump into hyperspace (in the beginning
- of the show) and not take the Starfuries with the ship? We've seen
- it done before."
- No, I don't believe so. You've seen a jump GATE used, but that's
- different from a jump POINT which basically closes right behind
- the ship like a rabbit pulling its hole in after it. If the ships
- stayed behind to protect its rear, they'd be left behind. Ships
- coming out of a jump point into normal space sometimes will let
- their fighters zip out AS they're coming out, alongside the main
- ship.
- * In "Severed Dreams," the dilemma faced by the Alexander in the
- teaser is that if they jump, they'll end up leaving their fighters
- behind. A jump engine rips the area open for that one ship, and
- closes it again right behind it. What sometimes happens, as in
- "All Alone," is that *as a ship comes out*, it releases its
- fighters. But you can't just follow a ship into a jump point
- formed by another ship. You'd probably get torn apart when space
- folded back on you, because the field opening the point is
- primarily around the other ship.
- * _Why didn't they shut down the jumpgate? Why did the EA ships use
- it?_
- The answer to both your questions is about the same. It takes
- about a day to power down, or power up a jump gate. It operates
- more like a fusion reactor than a light bulb. So not only wasn't
- there enough time, even if they *had* had enough time, you'd want
- to leave the gate up and running in case you needed to evacuate
- for any reason; otherwise you'd cut off your main escape route.
- For the incoming fleet, knowing the gate was active was the way to
- go, since it would let them launch their fighters prior to coming
- in; if you use a jump point, you kinda have to launch while you're
- coming out to avoid anyone being stuck behind.
- * _What good are small fighters if it's the big ships that decide
- the battle?_
- A lot more ships came in with the Roanoke and the Agrippa, support
- ships and others. Probably more breaching pods. They took out
- those. They're also used to keep the enemy starfuries from
- disabling the defense grid on the station, leaving B5 free to use
- its weapons on the larger target/worse threat. They're often used
- to soften up the enemy, harrass them like a pack of hounds falling
- on a prey. In "Fall of Night," we saw a Centauri vessel in large
- measure taken out by the Starfuries with some B5 support. So they
- definitely play a part.
- * Starfuries serve a *lot* of functions which we've shown before on
- the series.
- They can take out a ship's defensive screens and countermeasures,
- allowing access by the big ships' armaments. In a group, they can
- take out a good sized ship on their own (a la the Centauri cruiser
- in "Fall of Night"). They also serve to protect the station's
- defense grid from aggressor starfuries.
- Also, a number of small support ships, including a Hyperion class
- ship came through as part of the "carrier group" that went after
- the station. It was up to the starfuries to take care of those
- ships while B5 and the other destroyers took out the biggest
- threats.
- * _What about all the debris from the battle?_
- We've shown clean-up crews before outside, including a hazmat
- station that goes out to clear away fuel cores or other toxic
- material. They would've been dispatched for this.
- * Fighters re-enter via the main docking bay and are recharged and
- lowered into the fighter bays.
- No question, spare parts would be a problem, and they'll have to
- cannibalize a lot (plus whatever they scrounged up from the
- fighters blown apart outside).
- * Bear in mind that if we had gone over to the other captains and
- what was going on in the other ships, to make room for those
- scenes we would've had to cut anywhere from 3-5 minutes of the
- other stuff. You can't just add to the show's time; if that goes
- in, something else has to come out. So you'd probably have to cut
- the scene between Sheridan and his father since that was the only
- stand-alone set piece.
- Any time you write something, you must decide "who is it about?"
- This episode was about *our characters*, the ones we've come to
- care about, and how they deal with this. To take away from that
- and spend time with people we've never seen before, and won't see
- again, would be to cheat our characters of the time on screen
- needed to pay off all the things we've set up over the years.
- Would it have been an interesting aside to show the other
- captains? Sure. In a movie, with an open-ended running time, I
- probably would have. But there's nothing I would want to cut out
- of the episode as it now stands to make room for it.
- * _Why no scenes from the opposition's point of view?_
- We haven't seen those scenes because we don't know anyone there
- really, and in an hour show you only have so much time, and within
- our budget we only can do so much. Every speaking role you add
- costs thousands of dollars. Every set costs thousands of dollars.
- We're doing the absolute best we can with a budget roughly 1/2 of
- any of the ST episodes.
- If it isn't *absolutely necessary* to the scene, it isn't in.
- Yeah, seeing some folks in EA talking back and forth about well,
- maybe this isn't a good idea, maybe it is, well, let's get back to
- work...it'd be an interesting aside, but in addition to slowing
- down the pace of the episode, and this one had to move like a
- house afire, it's just not something I felt we could or should do.
- * _About the boarding party's uniforms_
- Instead of going for a sinister EA look, I wanted the uniforms to
- be something we're used to, "our side," as you say. There aren't
- many blacks-and-whites on this show. It's all greys...and
- sometimes olive drab.
- * Garibaldi wanted to hold up, cut off the boarding party at a
- bottleneck, but the Narns, *being* Narns, raced right into the
- battle. At that point Garibaldi had to follow them in or let them
- get wiped out for no good reason.
- * _About the Narn sacrifice_
- What you also have to bear in mind sometimes is that *this* is the
- only way to get things done. When the Allies stormed Normandy
- Beach, they knew that German bunkers and machine nests and
- fortified positions were right there on the beach waiting for
- them. But they stormed out, onto the beach, and the first lines
- were cut down, one after another after another, hundreds,
- literally thousands of soldiers. But those behind were able to get
- through, take up position as best they could. Some of them clung
- to the edges of cliffs as Germans above laughed and threw down
- grenades into their midst.
- Sometimes there's no other way. But you do it because those who
- command you have the moral authority to say "You probably will not
- come back, but the cause is just, and fair, and necessary."
- Thus do we go off to die.
- * _Themes of personal sacrifice_
- "It's all this stuff that I think really makes the show. The
- mystery certainly helps, but the puzzles are no longer my main
- reason for watching."
- Aaron: exactly. This was something I said a lot around the first
- part of the second season, that this really *isn't* a mystery
- novel, in any conventional sense, no more so than any novel whose
- ending is yet to be revealed.
- You picked up on exactly the themes that are present in the show,
- with some more to come shortly. Personal sacrifice for a cause --
- perhaps a good cause, perhaps not, depending on how wisely we make
- our decisions -- is probably the dominant theme at this point in
- the story.
- It's worth mentioning that this story was initially conceived in
- the midst of the Me Generation, the decade of "I've got mine,
- jack, screw you all." Since then the culture has gotten
- increasingly factionalized, groups of Me's pulling and tugging at
- the fabric not only of the country, bvut of the planet itself. The
- idea of personal sacrifice, of personal service to a cause, seems
- to have become...passe. Old fashioned. Silly.
- We have an obligation to one another, responsibilities and trusts.
- That does not mean we must be pigeons, that we must be exploited.
- But it does mean that we should look out for one another when and
- as much as we can; and that we have a personal responsibility for
- our behavior; and that our behavior has consequences of a very
- real and profound nature. We are not powerless. We have tremendous
- potential for good or ill. How we choose to use that power is up
- to us; but first we must choose to use it. We're told every day,
- "You can't change the world."
- But the world is changing every day. Only question is...who's
- doing it? You or somebody else? Will you choose to lead, or be led
- by others?
- (Y'know, there are moments I look at the preceding paragraphs, and
- I realize that it wa said more succinctly, and better, and more
- movingly in "Lost Horizon," with this simple sentence: "Be *kind*
- to one another.")
- * The easy thing to do, the TeeVee thing to do, would've been to go
- from Sheridan's line "All ships return to base," to the exterior
- with the big ships, and fade out. But I try to keep this show from
- doing the easy thing. Yes, you had a victory. Yes, it was
- necessary. But what's the cost? We shouldn't glamorize these
- things. Even at the end, as you notice, even at the end of the
- reception...we go out on an ominous note.
- * The older I get, the more I realize there are things you can do
- with silence you can't do with words, though I still love the form
- of the speech. There was a lot of counterpoint in this episode, a
- tool I'm still playing with as a writer; eventually I'll figure
- out how to really use it properly. (Though there's an interesting
- scene up later this season using another kind of ironic
- counterpoint which I think works pretty well.)
- * _Counterpoint?_
- In a sense, it's going from one emotion or thematic element to a
- very different, but equally strong one, either as bookends or
- through intercutting. Going from the high of the victory, to the
- sudden shot of the dead troops, is thematic counterpoint.
- Here's another...in "Cabaret" you've got a scene where the
- performers in the Cabaret are doing the sort of German dance where
- you slap your knees and thighs and chest...and they take it a bit
- further, slapping one another, it's all for comic effect...but
- during this, you're intercutting the owner of the cabaret being
- beaten to within an inch of his life by some Brownshirts outside.
- You go from comic to brutal and back, with the result that the
- happy little dance suddenly takes on ugly characteristics, and the
- beating takes on the sense that the participants are having a sick
- kind of fun, that it's all just another kind of dance, a ritual.
- That's what you have to look at as a writer...how this scene
- works, and how it interacts with the scenes in front, behind and
- "beside" it (for things happening simultaneously). Sometimes, with
- the proper counterpoint, you can add whole new levels of meaning
- to a scene, or make the scene much stronger than it would've been
- on its own.
- * _Did the Earth ships recognize the White Star as the ship from the
- incident on Ganymede?_
- Probably not.
- * Well, President Clark would know it [the White Star], from the
- Aggy records, but the general population wouldn't know it yet,
- since those records weren't released. But it does give him a card
- to play at some point in the future.
- * _Any relation between Captain Hiroshi and the Hiroshi on
- Garibaldi's staff from [32]"Convictions?"_
- No intentional relation, no.
- * _Why wasn't the boarding party coming up through the floor?_
- I figured that they'd come in through the outer hull, secure the
- inner hull area, then go up in and through a side wall, which
- would be faster for purposes of a mass entrance. If you blow a
- hole in the floor, everybody has to crawl out one at a time; you
- blow a hole in the wall, bunches can come through at once. There
- was a fair amount of distance between where they came in, and the
- hull.
- * Yes and no. They came through the "floor" which would be the outer
- hull. Like any good ship, the station has two hulls for
- protection, an inner hull and an outer hull. Once breaching the
- outer hull, they moved into the inner hull, then angled up for a
- wall they could blow out.
- I figured this would make more tactical sense because if they just
- blew through the floor, they'd have to *crawl* out one or two at a
- time, whereas if they angled in safely and then came in through a
- wall, they could pour in more quickly, en masse, and be less
- vulnerable.
- * _From coproducer George Johnsen_
- We don't really know where the Marines actually penetrated, but
- their first hole would be through the "floor". If we assume that
- they know the station well, it is likely they would punch through
- an "unimproved", or storage area first, as it would be easier than
- to burn through a fully habitable area. Then they would go through
- a wall or a door to get at the goal. We postulate that they
- actually were shown entering through their second burn, and
- entering the occupied area.
- * _Was there not much blood in the on-station fight because the guns
- were firing plasma?_
- Correct, PPG bursts, being superheated helium, tend to cauterize
- the wounds as they go through.
- * No, it's a different scene than the flash-forward in Babylon
- Squared.
- * Thanks. That's exactly the impression I wanted...you do the
- dolly/zoom move, isolating Sheridan visually...you don't cut back
- to the others as they speak, just let the camera stay on him, put
- the other voices down under the music and off to the side, just
- *HOLD* there...works great.
- * I'm always getting this confused in my own mind, but basically
- it's using two contradictory moves with the camera. You dolly in
- (push the camera toward the object) and push out with the lens (or
- vice versa...that's the part I'm forever getting confused
- about...like remembering battery connections, is it positive to
- positive or positive to negative...?). In either event, you're
- basically going in and out/away at the same moment. It's a nifty
- effect.
- * "There is a certain sweetness between Sheridan and his father.
- Sheridan's father is certainly the one that I wish I had. Is he
- yours, JMS?"
- Not by the farthest stretch of the imagination, which is all I'll
- say on this.
- * _Was that Ashan (from [33]"There All the Honor Lies") blocking
- Delenn?_
- That wasn't Ashan, no.
- * _Why isn't the Council on Minbar?_
- We've hinted at it...the Grey Council always stays on its ship,
- being part of the universe, giving it an exotic, distant feel for
- its people...as though among the gods.
- * The Grey Council could've taken a lot more action to be supportive
- behind the scenes, getting the warrior caste more involved with
- the rangers, giving aid to the non-aligned worlds...there was a
- LOT they could have been doing all this time that wouldn't have
- required tipping their hand. Instead they sat and did nothing. And
- now, with B5 on the edge of falling, to say it's not their problem
- was too much. Now is the time they have to start coming forward.
- * Basically, the warrior caste doesn't think it's their war; there's
- also a certain amount of resentment in it, I think...they *led*
- the last war, they *did* their job, and got yanked back and forced
- to surrender. That was a terrible blow to their pride, caused in
- part by an alien race, so their attitude now tends to be more or
- less, "Screw 'em."
- * _How did Delenn know B5 needed help?_
- Real simple. Lennier was still on-station. All she had to do was
- check in with him en route and find out. Also, she went to the
- council for the purpose of getting military support because she
- knew heavy stuff was coming down, in one form or another. Knowing
- that "the humans are fighting one another" as she said to the
- council, it's evident that if they didn't come to B5 that day,
- they'd come shortly thereafter.
- * She already knew that civil war had broken out between EA ships
- and forces, and that B5 had already faced one takeover bid, and
- that whether or not it happened today or the next day, it was
- definitely coming. That was unmistakeable. Also, bear in mind that
- Lennier stayed behind. She would have checked in with him en route
- and found out what was going on, or picked up the radio broadcasts
- of the battle in progress. I could've shown this, but that
- would''ve blown the surprise of her arrival.
- * At this point, with the Council broken, Delenn isn't currently
- running Minbar...there's a vacuum of power. The system can carry
- on for a while, the balance between the castes is pretty
- efficient, but this is going to have to be resolved, and some in
- the warrior caste may suspect Delenn of doing this so she *can*
- rise to power.
- As part of Valen's covenant, to prevent one caste from taking over
- the other, each caste has access to its own warships. This was
- done to create trust a thousand years ago, and since then, since
- there hasn't been any conflict between Minbari, the three castes
- own their own warships still, but in general are assigned to
- Warrior caste as a courtesy, which can be revoked. As Delenn
- noted, the worker and religious castes control 2/3rds of their
- forces.
- * Each caste populates the ships in their jurisdiction with their
- own people. Which is why those on the Minbari warships that came
- in, which we'll see shortly, are religious caste, no warriors
- among them...but even the religious caste is well trained in
- combat, as part of their education in temple. We've seen some of
- this already in Lennier's abilities in a fight.
- * No, 5 left the council with her. And one can wonder, Did she turn
- down the position of leader of the Grey Council, which would be a
- balance for that role, in order to eliminate the council and
- become primary ruler? (That is what some of the warrior caste are
- bound to begin wondering after a while.)
- * _Was the brief pause as one of the council members left a sign of
- a single caste breaking apart?_
- No, just a member of the warrior caste making sure one he
- considered a friend *really* wanted to do this....
- * I was living in Delenn's head when she uttered those lines for the
- first time.
- She wasn't bluffing.
- Delenn *never* bluffs.
- * Thanks, and yes, there's definitely fire and steel in Delenn,
- which she calls upon when she needs it. And nobody crosses her
- when that happens.
- * Now that she's gone through her own personal fire, she's a much
- stronger character, and very interesting to write. There's steel,
- and there's humanity and compassion, and she feels no need to
- defend or justify any of those traits. What she is, she is.
- * _Sinclair survived a battle with Minbari warships._
- Her exact line was, "No human captain has ever survived battle
- with a Minbari fleet." Sinclair wasn't a captain.
- * Dukhat was killed at the start of the Minbari war (that *caused*
- the Minbari war), and the Council did without a leader for a long
- time. She was taught and sponsored by Dukhat.
- * _Does Delenn feel responsible for Dukhat's death?_
- No, she doesn't feel responsible; it's an artifact of the way they
- approach certain things. "His word is on my lips, his spirit is in
- my eyes." It's almost a way of saying he's speaking through me,
- back off.
- * _About Sheridan asking the Roanoke to surrender_
- Yeah...the reference was kafuffled. There was so much going on, so
- many EFX shots, so much rearranging of shots to make everything
- work (we literally delivered this 2 hours before the process for
- uplinking started) that this slipped past. I'll assume that
- Sheridan got excited and said the wrong name. It'd happen to
- anyone. Right? Right?
- * Roanoke is a place rich with history. Some of it a little odd,
- given the colony's disappearance, but rich nonetheless. (Clark has
- edged away from giving Omega class destroyers and others names
- from Greek mythology and history, toward more conventional names
- like the Clarkstown and the Roanoke.)
- * President Clark got away from the tradition of using Greek names.
- And the Roanoke was a Virginia colony that disappeared in the
- 1600s.
- * _What about the disappearing destroyer?_
- That would've been killed off-camera. We tried to fit in every
- ship getting nailed, but finally realized it would've required
- another half an act.
- * _What did ISN know?_
- I'm sorry, but we cannot answer your question at this time. We are
- experiencing temporary transmission problems with ISN, but hope to
- have the situation remedied very soon. Meanwhile, you can direct
- any inquiries for information to the Ministry of Peace, and the
- Ministry for Public Information, which has been aiding all public
- information broadcasts for almost two years now.
- At the tone, please leave your name and identicard number. Don't
- worry about calling back. We'll find you.
- <beep>
- * Clark had inside info that ISN would be going public soon with
- info on what was *really* going on on Mars, his planned attack on
- B5, and other stuff he wanted quiet.
- * I'm looking to find a way to bring Franklin's father back into the
- storyline now, to help resolve this. (Note: no suggestions,
- please.) I think he would tend to fall on the other side, and it'd
- be good to show that some people may think that yes, there's a
- problem, but you solve that problem from within, not by breaking
- away. Could make for some nice drama....
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