The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5
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  1. Compiled by David Strauss (dstrauss@netcom.com).
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  3. Category 19, Topic 31
  4. Message 76 Thu Dec 07, 1995
  5. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:04 EST
  6. Yes, from what Ivanova tells Lyta, about two weeks have passed since the
  7. apprehension of Edward's killer; and yes, with slight modifications to prevent
  8. mindwipes from running into one another, they usually use preset templates in
  9. creating a basic history for the person to be wiped.
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  14. Message 870 Fri Dec 08, 1995
  15. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:06 EST
  16. Jose: "glad to have you back on rastb5 again"...huh? I'm not on rastb5,
  17. in limited fashion or otherwise. Are you perhaps referring to the info group?
  18. Re: inspiration...in general this has meant people coming to me and
  19. saying that because of the show, they've chosen to get involved in charities,
  20. or social causes, or to register voters, or work in shelters; in Dallas at a
  21. small convention I was at, a young man stood up in the seminar and said that
  22. he was changing his major to social work because of the show...in email I
  23. received a note from a fellow who, inspired by the notion that you can choose
  24. a better life, relocated with his wife halfway across the country, against the
  25. "advice" of everyone else, and created a new and better life doing *exactly*
  26. what he wants to do with his life.
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  31. Message 879 Fri Dec 08, 1995
  32. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 21:38 EST
  33. Hrmmm...it was my understanding that the reposts/answers would go on
  34. the rastb5-info group. I'll have to check this out.
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  39. Message 616 Sun Dec 10, 1995
  40. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:48 EST
  41. Yes, "CoS" is a deliberate mirror-image of "Midnight," partly to
  42. illustrate the notion that "the wheel turns," as G'Kar says...yes, it does,
  43. and if you forget that it eventually turns on *you*, you'll be ground beneath
  44. it.
  45. I enjoyed Wing Commander 3, and will almost certainly buy WC3, but won't
  46. play it until I've finished writing for the season, for obvious reasons....
  47. jms
  48. (oops, meant to say WC4 above)
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  52. Message 642 Mon Dec 11, 1995
  53. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:34 EST
  54. jms does not do christmas, that's correct.
  55. BTW, B5's own conceptual consultant Harlan Ellison will be signing copies
  56. of his new CD Rom game, "I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream" at Tower
  57. Records/Video in two locations this week: from 6-7:30 p.m. on Wednesday,
  58. December 13th, at 8801 Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles, and in San Francisco
  59. on Thursday, December 14th, from 6-8 p.m. at 3205 20th Avenue.
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  64. Message 648 Mon Dec 11, 1995
  65. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 19:32 EST
  66. Haven't tried the game yet, or ANY of the games now in my hands, or that
  67. I'm intending to buy, 'cause if I get into them (like Mechwarrior 2) I know
  68. that it'll take hours and hours from the writing; when the season's over, then
  69. I can do that.
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  74. Message 661 Tue Dec 12, 1995
  75. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:18 EST
  76. Jeff: yep, that was you I was thinking of...thanks for leaping up and
  77. helping indicate I'm not senile (well, yet, anyway).
  78. Re: Mechwarrior 2...I don't have any first-hand experience with the game,
  79. so don't take my purchase as recommendation; I'd just read some of the
  80. reviews, and figured I'd check it out.
  81. Re: Sinclair as the One...funny how all this time very few folks have
  82. really commented much on how it was that Zathras could look right into
  83. Sinclair's face and say, "NOT the One."
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  88. Message 670 Tue Dec 12, 1995
  89. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 17:47 EST
  90. Basically, she doesn't have any one style; it's whatever she feels like
  91. that day. The military rule is that the hair has to be kept either off,
  92. above, or away from the rank insignia.
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  97. Message 687 Wed Dec 13, 1995
  98. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:27 EST
  99. Actually, I tend to spend the same amount of time here as anywhere else;
  100. more, in fact. I inevitably log onto GEnie minimum of twice a day; I
  101. sometimes go a couple/three days without logging onto AOL, for instance,
  102. though then I post several messages at a time, so you get a flurry. As for
  103. CIS, bear in mind that I've been on that service LONG before GEnie even came
  104. along, since 1984/85, and that has the benefit of using an offline
  105. reader/posting program, Tapcis...I've tried Aladdin, and can't get it to do
  106. the stuff I want...this isn't an invitation to teach me, I don't have time for
  107. the learning curve right now...so everything you see from me here on GEnie is
  108. written live, on-line. That sometimes mitigates a *bit* against the number of
  109. posts, but no more so than at any time before.
  110. The video thing didn't come out as an announcement, but rather as an
  111. aside to an ongoing discussion that touched into this area. It wasn't a case
  112. of, "Aha! I have this to announce, so I'll do it HERE rather than on GEnie."
  113. That's just where it occured to me in the natural progression of messages.
  114. Just like stuff gets mentioned here that sometimes doesn't get mentioned
  115. elsewhere. Which is why there are a number of folks out there collecting my
  116. posts on various services and reposting them onto other services, because I
  117. don't generally talk about the same stuff in all these different places. If I
  118. just did redundent postings, there'd be no need for that.
  119. Finally, if there *is* any numerical difference in postings -- and I
  120. dispute that premise -- it may come from the fact that in general, on the
  121. newer places, I tend to get a lot more specific questions than here; and most
  122. of the ones here, or in general, tend to be "is this going to happen," or
  123. asking for details on upcoming stuff, which I really can't answer often or in
  124. great specificity.
  125. I still consider GEnie and CIS my two primary services, having been here
  126. the longest...but let's not get proprietary here....
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  131. Message 692 Wed Dec 13, 1995
  132. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 15:12 EST
  133. The actor who plays Pinky, Maurice LeMarche, is a friend, so that may
  134. explain the connection.
  135. jms
  136. (Maurice also did the voice of Egon Spengler in TRGBs)
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  140. Message 704 Thu Dec 14, 1995
  141. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:04 EST
  142. I won't be finished writing this season's scripts until...right around
  143. the first week in March, give or take. At the end of a season, you generally
  144. get an advance script order while you're waiting around for the official word,
  145. usually for maybe 2 or 3 scripts tops, which comes around early April. The
  146. official writing season starts the day after the formal pickup, which is late
  147. May.
  148. So while the writing goes on to some extent year round, the really
  149. intense period is from June through March. Ten months, or about 42-44 weeks,
  150. so you're looking at one script every ten days to two weeks; we usually like
  151. to start filming with 4-6 finished scripts in-hand so that we have sufficient
  152. lead time to prep.
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  157. Message 524 Thu Dec 14, 1995
  158. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:07 EST
  159. Bear in mind that the Agamemnon now has a captain of its own, and that
  160. captain isn't going to just turn over command of his destroyer every time
  161. Sheridan wants to take it out on a joy ride. Also, the really important
  162. missions Sheridan might use it for are probably things that the EA military
  163. division might not be comfortable with, and would never let him just take out
  164. a destroyer just like that.
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  169. Message 105 Tue Dec 12, 1995
  170. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:14 EST
  171. The Centauri did not steal the bag; he had left long before Edward lost
  172. it (we see him drop and leave it behind in the hallway). AS Garibaldi said,
  173. someone found it and tried to sell it.
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  177. Message 721 Fri Dec 15, 1995
  178. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:22 EST
  179. Have listened to and enjoyed some of Enigma's work, yes. Nice stuff.
  180. Can't predict fourth season script stuff at this early stage; one crisis
  181. at a time.
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  186. Message 734 Sat Dec 16, 1995
  187. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:48 EST
  188. There are no plans for the foreseeable future of seeing Talia, so it's a
  189. moot point about the hair, I'd say....
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  194. Message 747 Sat Dec 16, 1995
  195. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:28 EST
  196. Well, bear in mind it's not just a matter of designating someone
  197. "control," it's the whole implantation process that has to be done.
  198. Re: Ivanova's hair...yes, whenever she's in the starfury, it's tied away
  199. in back.
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  204. Message 476 Mon Dec 18, 1995
  205. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:17 EST
  206. What y'all have to remember is that we produce 22 shows a year. There
  207. are 52 weeks in a year. That means that no matter how you slice it, you've
  208. got 30 weeks of reruns in there.
  209. RE: Talia...look, you've kinda got to look at this the way I do. Stuff
  210. happens. Yes, Talia was hoped for to be a key to the solution of the problem.
  211. (Not the key, but a key.) But if you do that, every single time, you become
  212. predictable. It means you, the audience, can relax. "Well, we know now that
  213. Talia will always get through this because she's the one they're hoping for."
  214. Suspense: gone. Story: suddenly predictable. There's no rule that every
  215. person who is hoped to help solve the problem in real life is gonna make it to
  216. the end or BE that solution. So if you delete that person, now it's "Oh,
  217. hell, NOW what're they gonna do?" which is more intrinsically interesting to
  218. me than the other option.
  219. Generally speaking, about once a year, toward the end of the year, I
  220. kinda look around at the characters with a loaded gun in my hand, and say,
  221. "Hmmm...if I take out *that* person, what happens? Is there anyone here I can
  222. afford to lose? Would it be more dramatically interesting to have this person
  223. alive, or dead? What is the absolute bare minimum of characters I need to get
  224. to the end of the story and achieve what I have to achieve?"
  225. It helps to really remember that this is a *novel*, and uses the
  226. structure of a novel. That means you have to have some real suprises as you
  227. go. Anyone is fair game. To the question "Why did you get rid of Sinclair?
  228. Why'd you get rid of Keffer? Why'd you get rid of Talia? Why'd you get rid
  229. of....oh, er, that hasn't happened yet...." there is only one answer: 'cause I
  230. felt like it, and 'cause I thought it'd make the story a lot more interesting.
  231. The stories I like best are the ones that ratchet up the tension and the
  232. uncertainty inch by inch until you're screaming. This could apply to any of
  233. Stephen King's novels (and recall that a lot of my background is in horror
  234. writing). Mother Abigail in THE STAND was supposed to be their hope for the
  235. future. So in short order she's vulture-food, JUST when she's most needed.
  236. *Because that's interesting*. It makes you say, "Oh, hell, NOW what?"
  237. (Stephen actually does that a lot in his books, and it's a technique I've
  238. learned as well.) Boromir in LoTR was a capable, skilled fighter, deemed
  239. absolutely essential to the Company of the Ring...oops, there he is by the
  240. tree, full of Orc arrows.
  241. Stuff happens.
  242. Same here.
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  247. Message 497 Tue Dec 19, 1995
  248. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:02 EST
  249. There was always a Ranger going to be assigned to the station about this
  250. time, yes.
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  255. Message 509 Wed Dec 20, 1995
  256. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:44 EST
  257. BTW, here's humor...though at the same time understandable given the
  258. penchant for some folks to abuse the nets by pretending to be other people...I
  259. got a call today from Claudia, who was trying to take part in a B5 IRC and
  260. kept getting booted out by folks yelling at her for the crime of pretending to
  261. be Claudia Christian. Nobody believed it was her. Perhaps in future we need
  262. to find some way to verify when this happens.
  263. (BTW, speaking of net abuse, I'm led to understand, from the sysadmin on
  264. the server in question, that Theron Fuller is no longer being allowed access
  265. to Usenet from his account.)
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  270. Message 117 Wed Dec 20, 1995
  271. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:00 EST
  272. I'd say there were extenuating circumstances here that made it more than
  273. just a simple murder (and not all murders get wiped, esp. in cases like second-
  274. degree or manslaughter). He'd stalked Edward for years; arranged to break the
  275. mindwipe; and engaged in slow, deliberate, methodical torture unto death. The
  276. degree of premeditation is staggering.
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  281. Message 538 Thu Dec 21, 1995
  282. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:41 EST
  283. On those other services, the sysops arranged for conferences with the
  284. cast members involved. That could be done just as easily for GEnie as others.
  285. Just hasn't been done. To my knowledge, no one's been invited. (I think it's
  286. been mentioned in my direction once or twice, but not for a while, and I don't
  287. think anything was really ever pinned down, but my memory isn't all it
  288. was...if it ever was....)
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  293. Message 542 Thu Dec 21, 1995
  294. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 05:30 EST
  295. You want to know how much Joe has been writing lately? You want to know
  296. the goofy side of it?
  297. I write with keyboard in lap, leaning back, legs in a broken-4 position
  298. (left ankle crossing right knee) to support it. Well, I've been writing so
  299. much, so *long*, lately that I recently discovered that there is now an actual
  300. indentation in my left leg, just above the ankle, where it's been abraded by
  301. cloth, and the circulatoin's been hindered, and there's been constant pressure
  302. placed on it. I've actually lost some sensitivity in that 5-inch section.
  303. THAT'S how much I've been writing this year.
  304. I need a vacation.
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  309. Message 1 Thu Dec 21, 1995
  310. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:46 EST
  311. We hope to *FINALLY* be able to announce the formation of the official
  312. Babylon 5 Fan Club within the next 7 days or so. From time to time, news
  313. about this will get dropped here, and we can use this for notices relating to
  314. the club, and information about joining and such.
  315. We've been negotiating with WB for *over a year* to let us do this, and
  316. it's taken a long time mainly because they didn't think anyone would be
  317. interested in a fan club for something not ST. (Sound familiar?) But
  318. finally, after much persistence, we're finally at a point where I can say I
  319. think it's going to happen at last. Stay tuned....
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  324. Message 260 Fri Dec 22, 1995
  325. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:12 EST
  326. Actually, bear in mind that the American system operates through a series
  327. of checks and balances; there's freedom of speech, but there are penalties if
  328. you use that freedom to write defamatory newspapers, for instance. In
  329. cyberspace, the checks and balances are more than a little overdrawn....
  330. Tom: to your question...I do know that Terry Nation wrote a full season
  331. of Blake's 7, though I don't know how many episodes that was. Some folks have
  332. checked around, and as near as can be determined, in American TV, no one
  333. person has ever singlehandedly written an entire season of a one-hour dramatic
  334. series in the entire 50 years or so of TV history.
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  339. Message 280 Fri Dec 22, 1995
  340. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:58 EST
  341. Kwicker & Jose: exactly my point. Kelley *co-wrote* all of a season, or
  342. all but one of a season, sometimes supplying the story, or rewriting another's
  343. script...but no one's done it *singlehandedly* before.
  344. So Nation did 13 episodes that season? Well, then looks like that
  345. record's been broken already; 17 this season already. Plus 4 from the end of
  346. last season, so when this is all over (year 3) that'll be 26 in a row,
  347. unbroken. (Or is it 27? What aired before the final four?)
  348. This is probably the ultimate in trivial details, but it's the sort of
  349. thing that helps me keep going.
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  354. Message 287 Sat Dec 23, 1995
  355. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 06:26 EST
  356. Actually, in each TZ season, there were many other writers, though
  357. Serling wrote the majority of each season (also, the lion's share of TZ
  358. episodes were *half-hours*, not hours). But fundamentally, what matters most
  359. is not the volume or quantity of scripts, but the quality of what goes IN
  360. them. I'd rather write 1 good script than 4 mediocre scripts.
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  365. Message 127 Fri Dec 22, 1995
  366. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:50 EST
  367. Actually, in legal terms, in order to qualify for "a crime of passion"
  368. there cannot be premeditation; it happens suddenly, in the heat of the moment.
  369. By virtue of stalking Edward for nine years, the "crime of passion" defense
  370. quickly goes by the boards
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  375. Message 6 Fri Dec 22, 1995
  376. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:00 EST
  377. No, the club is designed for both on- and offline fans.
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  382. Message 297 Sat Dec 23, 1995
  383. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 19:27 EST
  384. Actually, I always kinda thought that the people granted the people
  385. their rights, then created the government to arbitrate in the dispute over the
  386. use of those rights.
  387. For a glimpse on how ST stories get written, btw, pick up the latest
  388. copy of WIRED. I know this kind of thing works for some folks, but it just
  389. makes my hair stand on end.
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  394. Message 315 Sun Dec 24, 1995
  395. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 19:37 EST
  396. I guess what amazed me most was either Berman or Pillar coming right out
  397. and saying ST "is a formula." Just that simple. I about fell off my chair.
  398. BTW, on the question of effects...here's one that's kinda interesting, in
  399. that I've seen a few comments here and there about how we must've mapped the
  400. CGI fireball into the hallway in "Convictions" where Londo jumps into the
  401. transport tube. Some even offered you could tell the fire was CGI.
  402. Nooooooop.
  403. Here's how that shot was done: we built a miniature hallway (actually,
  404. "miniature" ain't the right word; it was something like 30 feet long or more).
  405. Painted it so that it looked exactly like the regular B5 hallways. On film
  406. you absolutely can't tell the difference. Then we mounted the hallway
  407. *vertically* alongside the outside of the main building here. Set the camer
  408. at the top, pointing down into the hall. We built a firebomb and set it at
  409. the far end of the hall (on the bottom, in other words). We then set off the
  410. firebomb (with all the proper authorities present), so that it shot up the
  411. length of the vertical hall. We overcranked the camera so it'd start in slow-
  412. motion, then pulled the plug so that the camera slowed down to normal
  413. speed...giving the sense of the fire swelling, then suddenly rushing forward
  414. with a huge fireball. So when it looks like the "hallway" is on fire...it
  415. is. Real fire.
  416. Next we shot Londo (Peter) against a bluescreen, reacting to this, then
  417. diving to his left. We then comp'd the bluescreen into the hallway, and used
  418. CGI to build a transport tube door to Londo's left, which then closed just as
  419. the fire reached it.
  420. It was an utterly immense amount of work for, basically, a five second
  421. shot...but it looks 'way cool.
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  426. Message 328 Sun Dec 24, 1995
  427. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:57 EST
  428. Effects shots like this one were/are supervised via our EFX supervisor,
  429. Ted Rae, working closely with the director and folks from Foundation.
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  434. Message 357 Tue Dec 26, 1995
  435. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 06:38 EST
  436. Now, kids, play nice....
  437. Sue: as you're looking at the fireball approaching toward camera, he
  438. jumps to our left. Trust me on this.
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  443. Message 304 Mon Dec 25, 1995
  444. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:45 EST
  445. The comment is quite correct; we never once verbally identified
  446. Londo's...extension for what it was. We intimated, and left it in the
  447. sophistication of the viewer to figure it out. Same with the Talis (er,
  448. Talia) situation.
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  453. Message 370 Tue Dec 26, 1995
  454. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 19:38 EST
  455. Re: formula...yes, but remember that all the shows you cite, THE
  456. HONEYMOONERS, I LOVE LUCY, and MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE were all shows of a time
  457. that lent itself to formula, all of the 50s and 60s. You set a format and you
  458. never wavered from that. (But even in those, there was some room to maneuver;
  459. remember the DICK VAN DYKE show which was one long dream about alien invasions
  460. and closets full of walnuts? Even there some were experimenting and pushing
  461. the envelope.)
  462. Since then, television has grown, and changed, and the better shows tend
  463. to be the ones that are most groundbreaking, least formulaic. You look at
  464. TWIN PEAKS, or NYPD BLUE, or PICKET FENCES, and they're fresh, innovative,
  465. interesting.
  466. This is probably the one area where I have my biggest beef with ST. The
  467. logic goes that if you're a new, untested show, you can't afford to take
  468. risks, you have to build your audience. But ST has, however you wish to
  469. phrase it, a guaranteed audience. It *can* take chances. It *does* have the
  470. money for big episodes. But what it does is to stay within very strictly
  471. proscribed boundaries. It's like having this incredibly powerful, souped up
  472. Porsche...and using it to drive around the block to the corner store for
  473. groceries.
  474. ST is a program rooted strongly in the 1960s form of storytelling. It's
  475. frozen in time, I think, when it could be innovative, challenging, dynamic.
  476. It chooses, deliberately, not to be that. And if that's what people like
  477. about it, then that's fine. I just think it's a tremendously wasted
  478. opportunity to present something for the 90s that would be as innovative and
  479. imaginative and challenging as the original ST was in the 60s.
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  484. Message 380 Tue Dec 26, 1995
  485. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:47 EST
  486. Actually, if you want to hold off a bit on the conversion, you may want
  487. to consider using the first new ep coming in January, "Voices of Authority."
  488. It has elements of the sense of wonder, some good background on the show,
  489. advances the storyline bigtime, and has some of the funniest stuff we've ever
  490. done. Something for everyone.
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  495. Message 390 Wed Dec 27, 1995
  496. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 05:58 EST
  497. Err...I think something may not have been understood, or maybe my syntax
  498. was sloppy...what I'd intended, and what I think is still there in the
  499. message, was that I'd hoped that ST today would be as exciting in the 90s as
  500. it was in the 60s. That was kinda my point, that ST in its first incarnation
  501. *was* innovative and interesting and imaginative; I hope that wasn't
  502. misconstrued.
  503. (And Jose...yes, you're probably right on that distinction between the
  504. two kinds of Trek.)
  505. Came across this in my email tonight (it's now a tick before 3 a.m.).
  506. This leads me to a request, which I am writing by email since I don't
  507. have access to CompuServe or GEnie, but please feel free to respond to it
  508. publicly rather than privately if you wish, since others may be interested
  509. in your response as well. I would be fascinated, if you would care to
  510. talk about it, about your writing process. Do you have a set time, a
  511. predetermined schedule in which to write? Are you *able* to write like
  512. that? Do you write rapidly? easily? enjoyably? Do you read your work-
  513. in-progress aloud to hear the language? Do you solicit feedback from
  514. others? Do you revise? much? What kind of revisions are you likely to
  515. make? And if you do make revisions, do they occur as you go along, or
  516. afterwards, or a combination? And, finally, would it be possible for you
  517. to post (or email) any bits of writing showing the revision process?
  518. I'm refraining from asking all the related questions I'd love to know the
  519. answers to, but if this is a topic you'd be willing to discuss and think
  520. I/we would be interested in other details as well, please do talk about
  521. them. Thank you so much.
  522. Marcia Goldstein
  523. Since these were good questions, I thought I'd tackle them here. To the
  524. first: no, I don't have a set time, except that I pretty much end up writing
  525. all the time...when I get up, when I'm fighting sleep to go to bed, in-
  526. between...basically, I chew on a scene over and over in my head until I'm
  527. satisfied with it, then I write it down. Sometimes that process goes on at
  528. the desk, or over dinner, or watching TV...but as soon as it comes through, I
  529. get up and I write it. Consequently, once I've thought it through, "seen" it
  530. in my head a couple dozen times like watching a movie, the actual writing, or
  531. transcribing, is fairly easy. It's the thinking part that makes Zathras' head
  532. hurt.
  533. Most of my revisions take place before anyone else sees it; I don't
  534. generally turn over the script until I'm happy with it. At that point, it's
  535. published as an official first draft, even though it may have gone through
  536. multiple revisions in my computer before anyone else ever saw it. Sometimes,
  537. though, I get it right the first time, and what gets shot is basically first
  538. draft. Once it's turned it, there are additional revisions, but usually of a
  539. minor nature, changing sets to accommodate shooting, or just changing a word.
  540. (I've been known to reissue a full page when we get into blues or pinks *just*
  541. to change a word or two.)
  542. I never read the words aloud because then they all come out sounding like
  543. me; I can "hear" them better in my head, where I can hear the actual tenor of
  544. Londo's voice. I never solicit opinions on pages while I'm still writing,
  545. only afterward, and mainly in terms of production aspects. To do otherwise
  546. risks you losing your direction and second-guessing too much.
  547. Do I enjoy it? Yes and no. Writing is the one, the ONLY thing I'm good
  548. at. Writing is also the hardest thing I do. I agonize over every word,
  549. always fighting the fear that this one won't be as good as the last one, that
  550. this time I won't be able to pull the rabbit out of the hat. Sometimes, when
  551. a scene comes through completely of its own volition, it's great fun; when it
  552. doesn't, it's agony. Sometimes I enjoy the writing process; sometimes I more
  553. enjoy *having* written. It's kinda like taking a portable speed drill with a
  554. 3/4" steel bit and driving it into the side of your head...it's painful, but
  555. after the first four inches in, you kinda start to like it....
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  560. Message 322 Tue Dec 26, 1995
  561. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:48 EST
  562. Mike: suffice to say there are some...interesting moments coming up soon
  563. between Refa and Londo. There are a number of showdowns coming up this
  564. season, between a lot of different characters, over stuff that's been building
  565. up for a while now. We'll see where this one goes.
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  570. Message 411 Wed Dec 27, 1995
  571. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:01 EST
  572. Rick: exactly. I think the show will thus be perceived differently when
  573. its stripped daily, just as you mentioned.
  574. Executor: I have to take exception to the notion that it's not "written
  575. by committee." I happen to know many of the people who do, and have, worked
  576. over there. (And there is no one "script editor" you refer to there.) On
  577. every episode, once the freelancer or staffer does an outline, it's brought in
  578. and the story is "broken" (their terms) by all of the available
  579. writers/producers/story editors gathered into one room who invariably tear it
  580. apart and rebuild it, with someone writing on a chalkboard where everything's
  581. going, changing it as the group changes stuff. Jeri Taylor confirmed this in
  582. an interview with her; the Wired in-depth story does the same; and I know the
  583. people who've worked there in this capacity. And, I'm sorry, but a group of 7
  584. or so people sitting around a room and throwing out ideas about how the story
  585. should go *is* a committee. Before you come back with this, I suggest you
  586. read the article in question, lest you commit the crime you decry, that of
  587. speaking from ignorance.
  588. Sue: no, it's our left *and* Londo's left. As the fireball comes toward
  589. us, he's standing with his back to us, looking at the fire. The door is to
  590. his, and our, left.
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  595. Message 424 Thu Dec 28, 1995
  596. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:29 EST
  597. YAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH.....
  598. Well, I *finally* finished writing the two-parter, "War Without End,"
  599. which is probably the toughest thing I've written for the series to date.
  600. Given everything that has to fit in here, and the fact that it's the other
  601. half of the B4 storyline (this ain't a spoiler, that'll be common knowledge in
  602. ads and the like), it became a pretty difficult job, moreso than when I'd
  603. originally thunk it up. It's kinda like cramming 20 pounds of potatoes in a
  604. 10 pound bag...but I *think* I got it all in, even though the initial drafts
  605. came out at about 7 pages too long. As I commented to one person, "I'm
  606. definitely dancing on the edge of my ability here." But I'm pretty sure I
  607. pulled it all off...and I think folks are going to be quite pleased.
  608. But *man* that was tough....
  609. Now, having written 16 and 17, only 5 scripts remain to be written for
  610. this season. And there's still an awful lot to fit in before the big season
  611. ender, which I suspect will raise quite a few eyebrows.
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  616. Message 329 Wed Dec 27, 1995
  617. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:03 EST
  618. Thanks. Though I knew about the gaff a LONG time before it was to air
  619. here in the US, I let the east/west thing go through as shot for the very
  620. first broadcast because I was afraid that the loop might hurt the scene, and
  621. it was *so* perfectly done. That over, I decided it was worth taking a shot
  622. at it. If your friend didn't notice, then we did it right. So now those who
  623. taped the first broadcast have something that'll never be seen again (if I
  624. have anything to say about it).
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  629. Message 10 Thu Dec 28, 1995
  630. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:20 EST
  631. The email response I sent is correct, the release is valid, just not
  632. written the way I'd've preferred; it makes too much of the fiscal aspects of
  633. the darned thing.
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  638. Message 446 Thu Dec 28, 1995
  639. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:40 EST
  640. Kim: this was probably the most logistically difficult, since I had so
  641. many elements "in play" at any given moment, and so many threads to deal with,
  642. even though there's really just the one overall storyline (it's hard to
  643. explain, you'll just have to see it). Other things have been more difficult
  644. for other reasons...either it was too emotionally close to me, or I've been
  645. under a killer deadline, it varies.
  646. Pat: you fall into the trap of accepted cliche re: committee writing.
  647. That's the usual picture people have of TV writing, and frankly, in the case
  648. of most dramatic TV, it ain't true. For starters, two of the shows you cite
  649. are sitcoms; sitcoms work differently from dramatic series in that there's
  650. often (though not always) a gang of gag writers who work in tandem to come up
  651. with an episode, with someone transcribing the jokes, around a basic premise.
  652. Other times you get a writing team, one knows structure, the other is funny;
  653. ain't the same deal as dramatic writing.
  654. I've been involved in a LOT of dramatic television, from MURDER SHE WROTE
  655. to WALKER to TWILIGHT ZONE and JAKE, and it's just not done by committee.
  656. When it comes to my scripts, as a staffer, I write them on my own, get my
  657. notes from the exec producer, make the changes, and it goes into production.
  658. In the case of a freelancer, the outline and script come in, the writer gets
  659. notes from the story editor or producer, does the next draft, turns that in,
  660. and someone on staff then takes the script and makes whatever final changes --
  661. minor or major -- are required to make it producible or a better story.
  662. Sometimes you don't touch it at *all* except to make production (set) changes;
  663. sometimes it's more. But you've got just the original writer, and usually one
  664. staffer doing cleanup. It ain't three, four or seven guys in a room throwing
  665. around ideas. If a staffer does a huge rewrite, sometimes you'll put in for
  666. shared credit. (The reason you see ten zillion writer credits in many ST
  667. episodes is due to the gang rewriting/writing process.)
  668. I'm not saying it doesn't happen at all in dramatic TV, because that
  669. wouldn't be true...only that it's not the rule, and is much rarer than you
  670. might think. Not one of the dramatic series I've been involved with has ever
  671. worked that way.
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  676. Message 473 Fri Dec 29, 1995
  677. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:40 EST
  678. Let me see if I've got this straight...Executor says that ST is not
  679. written by committee...I say that it is...he says it's not, and that "reality
  680. doesn't care" if I take exception to his statement that ST is written by
  681. committee...and then he states that ST *must* be written by committee, and
  682. thus it IS written by committee, which means I was correct and reality is on
  683. my side.
  684. At some point here I think somebody fell down the rabbit hole....
  685. And then I'm contradicted quoting the "script editor" for ST, when I say
  686. there IS no such creature working on the show, and in fact despite being told
  687. I'm wrong by Executor, he turn turns around and reveals that the "editor" in
  688. question is John Ordover, who edits the BOOKS, not the show, and is NOT a
  689. script editor, which I said doesn't exist, which again shows that reality is
  690. on my side....
  691. This is makings Zathras' head hurt....
  692. Re: the "stupid thread," and the "effective end of similarity" being that
  693. the two shows were set on space stations...oh, you mean absent the fact that
  694. the two shows both were helmed by commander ranked officers who had survived
  695. major and emotionally devastating battles, both had female seconds-in-command,
  696. both had a shapeshifter in their pilots, both had the female second leading a
  697. counter-attack to a massive attack in that same pilot, and a lot of other
  698. stuff in common....oh, you mean absent all THAT it's the "effective end of
  699. similarity." Gotcha.
  700. "Writing teams can come up with ideas better than one writer." Well,
  701. THAT should certainly put Hemingway, and Shakespeare, and Dickens, and Wilde,
  702. and Borges, and Faulkner, and Dostoeyvsky, and Marlowe in their place,
  703. yessir...and I'm sure you are now prepared to name the committees of writers
  704. that have come up with better than individual writers. I eagerly await them.
  705. As for your comments on how TV writing and production works...rarely have
  706. I seen misinformation so breathtakingly portrayed. Saying it's so doesn't
  707. make it so.
  708. Finally, as for being bugged by email, I almost always see this when
  709. somebody gets his or her hide branded in public forums; if you have these,
  710. notify GEnie. Otherwise, it leads me to doubt if they exist, and to consider
  711. that you're just saying that to get sympathy on your side, 'cause the *facts*
  712. sure as heck aren't.
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  717. Message 16 Sun Dec 31, 1995
  718. STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 05:54 EST
  719. One other aspect I forgot to mention is that if we do the tapes, there
  720. are residuals and royalties to pay to actors, writers, directors as well as to
  721. WB and elsewhere. The more you put on a tape, the more residuals you end up
  722. paying per tape...and the more the prices is going go up. It's not the same
  723. as copying a bunch of tapes for a friend; we have to pay everyone who
  724. participated in the episode.
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