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- Babylon 5 posts by JMS for June
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- This file includes a compilation of posts on GEnie by J. Michael
- Straczynski in the Babylon 5 topic. The posts are copyright by JMS
- (and compilation copyright is by GEnie).
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- Topic 22 Wed Nov 20, 1991
- SOARON [Bio-Dread] at 19:41 EST
- Sub: Babylon 5
-
- TWCNBN has been been named! J. Michael Straczynski has managed to bring a new
- quality to television and promises to do justice to TV and SF with a new
- action-adventure SF series of his own design. (NO story suggestions, please.)
- 826 message(s) total.
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 92 Mon Jun 01, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:01 EDT
-
- ComiCon is August 13-16. We begin filming on August 10th, so it's hard
- to know exactly what sort of footage (if any) we'll have to show at that time;
- that's awfully fast. But there will certainly be the current EFX reel, plus
- whatever new stuff Ron has come up with by then, and we may have some slides
- as well...we'll see. (You mean I'M not enough?)
-
- The core group of stations carrying B5 are themselves paying part of the
- production costs, so that's an interesting development in terms of delivery
- and who'll carry what. (This to a question about 11 messages ago.)
-
- BTW, we'll have a film crew on premises during our *own* filming, for a
- Making Of documentary. Gee, suddenly I'm a star....
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 95 Mon Jun 01, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:26 EDT
-
- At this point, it looks like I'll be arriving on Thursday, and returning
- on Sunday. I *imagine* that the B5 presentation will be on Saturday, at least
- that's what I'm going to push for. Once I know for sure, I'll post the info
- here. I just learned this evening that the B5 presentation at WesterColt is
- going to be on a Saturday, though I don't yet have a firm time.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 102 Mon Jun 01, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 22:54 EDT
-
- I've already talked to Ron about doing an RTC sometime closer to airdate,
- and he's agreed. Frankly, I'd rather he continued pounding away at the EFX
- than here, for the time being. (I can afford to take the time, the script's
- already written...all I have to do now is, oh, produce the damned
- thing...besides, I'm just plain nuts.)
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 114 Wed Jun 03, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:03 EDT
-
- Ah, THAT explains why the picture wasn't in the issue I picked up (June).
- Will look for the new one next week.
-
- In addition to our main casting director, we've now nailed down our
- supplementary casting directors in New York and elsewhere. Scouting starts
- next week. Don't expect any announcements on cast soon; for one thing, it
- should go through Warners first, and for another, we're going to be VERY
- picky. We don't have to rush, and we're not going to. Sets you can change,
- lighting you can modify, but your cast is your cast.
-
- BTW, one of your number will be seeing the B5 script *and* the B5 demo
- tomorrow afternoon. If he sees this and would like to comment at all
- (necessarily vaguely on the script, please), he's welcome to do so.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 118 Wed Jun 03, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:47 EDT
-
- BTW, for those who might be interested in finding out what your loyal
- correspondent has gotten himself into THIS time, if you're on the East Coast,
- check today's (Wednesday's) BOSTON GLOBE, or yesterday's NEW YORK TIMES page
- 12 (art theft info, which ties into the Globe), or the trades or USA Today
- over the next day or two.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 131 Thu Jun 04, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 21:29 EDT
-
- I'm hesitant to put the name of our casting director up here, only
- because I'm afraid she'll be flooded. If people want to inquire in mail, I'll
- pass it along, however. When there get to be too many requests, I may at that
- point stop.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 136 Fri Jun 05, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:04 EDT
-
- There are indeed times that TREK has been, to varying degrees,
- Paramount's only real profit-maker. It is, in essence, a license to print
- money. Put the ST symbol on something, and it sells.
-
- Which is, fundamentally, the reason behind DS9 in the first place. One
- thing I've kind of avoided was talking much lately about DS9, even though I've
- been hearing a *lot* from people inside Paramount lately. But the one
- overwhelming fact is this: TREK is what's called in this business a
- "franchise," like McDonald's or Burger King. (In more general terms, a
- franchise is a cop show, or a doctor show...you get the idea. Every studio
- or network looks for a certain number of "franchise shows" before then setting
- out to look for New Stuff.)
-
- Anyway...and I know some people are going to yell at me, but this really
- is the truth...DS9 is basically a fiscal repackaging of TNG. For the
- following reasons:
-
- 1) Stations don't like to get one show that runs too long, over the six-
- seven year mark. It becomes unweildy for them, and the cost of buying a big
- show package is just a lot larger.
-
- 2) A series only begins to make money for the studio when it goes into
- full-syndication (meaning they stop making new episodes and just rake in the
- cash). This is particularly true when a show has been on the air for a long
- time. See, each year, programmed increases in salaries and other areas go up
- and up and up. By year six, you're paying a HELL of a lot more than you paid
- for year one.
-
- So how are they saving money by doing a NEW series?
-
- 3) Pay scales for production staff and cast are always lower for a new
- series. It's sort of the studio Going Rate. Apparently a number of TNG
- production people have been told that if they want to stick around after TNG
- is finished, and go onto DS9, they're going to have to take cuts in salary.
- Actors fees will be lower overall. So you're starting at a lower baseline,
- and the really expensive show (TNG) is now over, and in full syndication,
- earning back some money.
-
- When you take all of that into consideration, and factor in the fact that
- the series takes place in the same universe, with the same basic scenario,
- same races, same Federation, even some of the same characters, what you come
- down to is essentially this: that DS9 is a repackaging of the same thing,
- under a different name, for basically economic reasons. There is no sudden
- new vision behind it, it's just a less costly extension of the old show.
-
- Which is not to say it ain't gonna be a good show. It might be a very
- good show. If it is, that's terrific, the more good SF around, the better.
- It's important for anyone reading this to make that distinction: this issue is
- completely apart from quality, it's strictly economics. This is the reason
- there IS a DS9. Where they go from that point _ good, bad, or indifferent _
- is another discussion entirely.
-
- There's nothing wrong with re-selling the same show to somebody under a
- different name if you liked the original show in the first place.
-
- Which is really all I can say, or have to say, about DS9 at this
- juncture. I already heard that they're going to push for January. I also
- know that it's going to be just about impossible for them to do that (plus the
- marketing folks at Paramount would much prefer the show debut in February,
- during Sweeps). This is in some degree an effort to beat B5 onto the
- airwaves.
-
- And from what I hear, that's going to be next to impossible. They only
- got a good, workable draft in about a week or so ago (and, to be fair, I hear
- from my sources there that it's "pretty good," and that's fine), and it just
- takes *time* from that script to sets to casting to the shoot itself. One
- concession to time, apparently, is that there's going to be a LOT of time
- spent on the Enterprise, since those sets are already finished and available,
- so it'll be more like an expanded TNG episode than a real pilot. It's what
- they already do there: the Enterprise encounters a new situation, a new
- location, deals with it, and moves on. The difference is, we will now have
- characters who remain on that place and follow them.
-
- The only way they can beat B5 to the air is if they really go toward
- making it an extended TNG episode, and make the EFX as minimal as possible.
- Which is, after all, their purview. It's their show, and their right. If
- they want to do it with hand-puppets, that's their prerogative.
-
- I was going to go on originally and talk a little about a small shoot
- tomorrow (a film for the marketing guys on B5, which with luck I'll be able to
- bring to cons), and some casting stuff, but this has already gone on longer
- than I'd anticipated. Next time.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 140 Fri Jun 05, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:54 EDT
-
- Ah, but you've always been such a seductress....
-
- Some nifty stuff going on, boys and girls, some of which I can't talk
- about yet, but hope to soon. See, at this stage of the game, the magic box
- opens, and suddenly all SORTS of people are let into the process...agents,
- casting associates on both coasts and in the midwest, licensing guys,
- marketing guys, advertisers...and usually the response to a new show is,
- "Okay, yeah, sure, come back to us after you've been on for a while." I can't
- betray anything just yet, but let's just say that that has NOT been the case
- here...the phone is practically ringing off the hook.
-
- People are Getting It. Some of them are even coming to us, having heard
- about the show on the grapevine.
-
- There's a point when a show begins to hit critical mass, when you've
- spent four years trying to get people excited, and suddenly there are excited
- people coming out of the woodwork at you, and now everyone begins to get some
- sense of what we've got here.
-
- (God, I'm *dying* to tell you what one of those calls was...this is so
- spiffy, so neat, so BIG...wait, Joe, be patient, wait until the ink dries,
- keep your mouth SHUT for once, fer chrissakes....)
-
- Tomorrow I go On Camera. Warners _ which is really supporting us in a
- big way _ is sending over some of their people to do an on-camera interview
- with me, Ron Thornton, possibly a couple of others, and include some of the
- EFX we've developed. The film is to be shown at a large gathering of execs,
- advertisers, marketing guys, the whole bit. I'll probably nab a copy to slip
- into the reel I've been making that shows the progress of B5, from early
- artwork to the first EFX reel, the new stuff, now this...eventually I'll add
- on new EFX, then maybe some actor stuff, and as we get into shooting, some
- snippets here and there, so that the reel is always absolutely current for
- conventions.
-
- What you get the sense of, finally, when something like this really gets
- going, is of an army of people, and you have to play Patton, getting everyone
- where they're supposed to be, when they're supposed to be there. (Or maybe
- army ants would be a better comparison.) There's silence for a very long time
- at the beginning, then gradually it gets louder,and louder, and after a
- while...yikes!
-
- For years, nobody knows you...you start to look for your face on milk
- cartons...then suddenly everybody wants to talk to you.
-
- Y'know what? It's fun.
-
- By the middle of next week, I should start getting video of actors
- auditioning in NY, and the 3-dimensional renderings of the set. Today I had
- to pick out the "audition sides," meaning those pages (sides of pages) of the
- script that an actor goes through in a session with the casting director to
- see if s/he's right...so you have to pick what amount to mini-scenes, and they
- have to be separate enough so that the actor can get a grip on it, but
- important enough to the plot to see how they handle exposition, and emotional
- enough to see how they project feelings of anger or joy or fear...all in 2-3
- pages a shot.
-
- It's tough being a writer, but I gotta tell you, it's a walk in the park
- compared to being an actor. It's rough work, and I have an endless respect
- for those who do it well.
-
- Gotta crash now...have to look good on camera tomorrow. If that doesn't
- qualify for a miracle, I don't know what does....
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 150 Sat Jun 06, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:00 EDT
-
- The novelization process has begun. I wish I could've adapted it myself,
- but time constraints prohibit that. The writer who's agreed to take on the
- project is one of the best, though, and a well-known SF writer to boot. More
- on this as it develops.
-
- We've finally locked down our line producer/unit production manager, who
- rides herd on the physical production side...comes to us straight from JEDI
- and INDIANA JONES and other high-profile films.
-
- Meanwhile....WOW! Had the largest production meeting yet: me, my
- associate and the other exec producer Doug Netter; producer John Copeland;
- production designer John Iacovelli; Ron Thornton; our new line producer, and
- others. And the newly finished sketches and blueprints for the sets were
- rolled out.
-
- I had no idea....
-
- See, Iacovelli's been promising me a new, different, radical look for the
- show. I've had a kind of general idea in my head from what he said, but it
- came nowhere NEAR the reality of what he unrolled onto the table in front of
- my boggled eyes. Take BLADE RUNNER, mix in a little ALIEN, add a touch of
- Japanese design, some deconstructionist architecture, and an eye for colors,
- and you've got something absolutely nifty. He's also made the most ingenious
- use of soundstage space that I've ever seen; he has really pioneered some new
- ways of doing things involving forced perspective, elevated sets, new uses for
- trance lights, gymbaled sets, you name it.
-
- Anyway, it's *really* cool. The amount of thought he's put into this,
- into making this absolutely new and different, is staggering. See, if you're
- doing a new TREK, for instance, a lot of the homework is done for you. The
- doors open like THIS, in the middle...a turbo lift looks like THIS when it's
- in operation.
-
- But because this is a different show, in a different universe, we have to
- go back to ground zero and think of ways we'd do this stuff based on new tech,
- and different ideas. John came up with a new way of doing doors, and ports,
- and transport tubes. Endless ingenuity.
-
- After the meeting, Ron Thornton and I were talking, and he said, "Okay,
- what's the deal on Babylon 4? I mean, are we ever going to see what happened
- to it, or see it again?"
-
- I smiled. "Do you REALLY want to know?"
-
- He considered it for a moment. I think he gets nervous when I smile like
- that. "Okay...sure."
-
- So I told him. And his eyes went wide as pancakes. It was a wonderful,
- Tex Avery effect. "Get out of here," he said, at first sure I was kidding. I
- explained that I was quite serious.
-
- Last I saw him, he was wandering off, muttering to himself, but growing
- increasingly enchanted with the idea....
-
- The shoot today (the behind-the-scenes preview shot at the office for
- publicity purposes) went well. I *hate* being filmed, but I think I got my
- main points across.
-
- One other interesting thing Ron mentioned: apparently the GIFs from here
- have been uploaded onto the Star Trek Echo Network (or whatever it's called)
- BBS system, where apparently it's causing quite a stir.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 158 Sat Jun 06, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 21:39 EDT
-
- I'll announce as soon as I can. If you haven't yet recieved your shirt,
- after ordering one, re-contact the same address and check with Susan. Gently.
- We don't want to startle her.
-
- Still lining up cons on the East Coast. I've kinda unofficially agreed
- to be at WishCon in NY, so that's a start. Will expand from there. The hard
- part is stealing time away from work here on two shows at the same time.
- Thank Mojo for notebook computers....
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 166 Sun Jun 07, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:07 EDT
-
- Yes, Warners is distributing B5 through the newly-formed Warner Bros.
- Consortium of Stations. WWOR New York has just been purchased and added to
- the Chris-Craft line of stations that's at the core of the consortium, so
- doubtless they'll be carrying B5 as well.
-
- I'm already on tap for a con over Labor Day, so that let's out Tri Con,
- and as for Shorleave...for reasons that are probably obvious, I'm trying to
- avoid cons which have a prime connection to ST at this time. First, I don't
- think all parties concerned would be comfortable with it. Second, we're
- trying to establish our own image, and don't want to piggyback on anyone else.
- So my general rule of thumb is that if the con has the words ST in its title,
- or that title derives from ST, then we steer clear. There are plenty of
- others, though, that will fit the bill nicely.
-
- International distribution is being taken care of by, natch, Warner
- Bros. International Distribution, and though I haven't yet received the
- specifics, I have heard that it's been doing EXTREMELY well in that regard.
- When I have more details, I'll pass them along.
-
- Over the last week, we've really been getting into the details of
- creating our universe, and sometimes it's overwhelming the extent of it all.
- How do we tell where we are on the station? Okay, so we color code the
- sections, so that rather than saying "I'm in sector seven, level five," you
- say, "I'm in blue-five," and the background _ occasional color-coded panels _
- can visually confirm this.
-
- What about language? Signs? Ron's having a guy come up with a whole
- raft of alien fonts to use. If you have directional signs in the halls, what
- do you do with them? (Remember, this is a freeport, so you're going to have a
- lot of folks coming through, not all of whom can communicate well with one
- another.) So do you have one sign in one language showing where you are,
- where you've been, which way to the bar...or several? If several, which do
- you choose? (We've worked this out kind of ingeniously, so I'll let it go at
- that for now.)
-
- There's just an awful lot to consider...decisions of the smallest sort.
- What do the cups look like? The tables? The ports? How do you handle
- lighting? How do you avoid the standard configuration rooms we've seen a
- hundred times before in SF-TV? How does the construction of the station
- affect architecture, design, function? What sorts of things would someone be
- allowed to bring with them from Earth or wherever? Are the quarters made from
- natural or synthetic materials? Are all the quarters the same, or
- different...if different, how, and along what lines, given that there should
- be some consistency in rationale.
-
- This is one of the things that really sets tv aside from fiction. In
- fiction, you can describe a control room or observation deck in a few words,
- and move on, letting the reader's mind fill in the gaps. Same with radio.
- But in TV, you have to BUILD it. You can't just say, "He sits at his desk."
- What does the desk look like? What does the chair look like? Does he use a
- pen and paper? Computer? How do you do the communications console
- differently than before? What sort of decoration does he have on the desk?
- Pictures? Holograms? Souveniers? Awards? Models of ships? Then after you
- decide, you have to MAKE them all, and make sure they look real.
-
- It can get daunting after a while. That's why you've GOT to surround
- yourself with people you can trust, so that when they bring ideas and designs
- to you, you don't just go nuts and throw it out, but you know that what they
- bring will be good, and may just need a suggestion or two to bring it more in
- line with what you want. Then they go away and do it.
-
- As an exercise, just look around any room in your house, and ask
- yourself, "What do I have here that I would not have 200 years from now?
- What's not here that I *would* have 200 years from now? How would it look?"
- There's not a square foot of space that's not somehow affected by that
- scenario.
-
- I think I'll go lie down for a while....
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 168 Mon Jun 08, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:49 EDT
-
- Thanks, Joe. Glad you're enjoying it.
-
- Joe...hmm...that reminds me....
-
- I've never been real big on formality. And I know that typing
- Straczynski can be a fearsome thing indeed. Fingers were never meant to move
- in that particular configuration, I think, and more than one person has had to
- dial 911 with his nose when his fingers tangled on the keyboard.
-
- Point being..."Joe" is just fine. If there's another Joe in a thread (as
- above), "Mr. S." is is also fine if you need to make the distinction. (One or
- two have called me Big S. Some comment that I'm the biggest S in town...and I
- wish they wouldn't smile quite so broadly when they say it, or hold it quite
- so long.)
-
- In any event, we're all in this together, so I think we can let formality
- slide.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 171 Mon Jun 08, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:46 EDT
-
- Actually, that's something we've discussed...what if someone only sees in
- the ultraviolet spectrum? Or infrared? For those individuals, the color
- coding is different...though you won't be able to see it on your television
- screens, because YOU can't see in the ultraviolet range, but it'll be there.
-
- Would this face lie?
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 190 Tue Jun 09, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 23:41 EDT
-
- Okay, okay, I can take a hint....
-
- Dr. Benjamin Kyle is Babylon 5's resident xenobiologist. He's in his
- late forties or early fifties, black, very thoughtful, very dignified...with a
- sly sense of humor (not sarcasm) that tends to catch one off guard. He began
- as a physician on Earth, and was a leading researcher into xenobiology there,
- gaining a quick grasp of the ins and outs of the few alien cultures that we
- (then) were in contact with.
-
- Naturally inquisitive, early on as a much younger man he began to "hitch-
- hike" onto deep-space ships, always hungery for new information that could be
- used by humans and outworlders alike. (His deal was that he would act as
- ship's physician without charge, in exchange for a bit of freedom whenever
- they made planetfall somewhere.)
-
- He has seen, catalogued and operated on more alien lifeforms than just
- about any other Earther in this time. And had his share of close scrapes, as
- well. Some races consider is sacrilege for any other race to "enter" their
- bodies through surgery...Ben will take the risk if it means saving a life.
-
- He's detailed, methodical, single-minded...and if one route is closed,
- he'll go another, even if it means getting into a fair amount of trouble.
- (Which happens in the pilot.)
-
- One scene omitted from the script for purposes of time is kind of
- illustrative of Ben's humor. During a crisis _ there's someone in the
- medical area (I'm being deliberately vague) who's in trouble, and Ben's on
- stims, staying awake to see the patient through _ he at one point has to talk
- to Sinclair.
-
- Sinclair is asleep, Carolyn beside him, when the call comes in via the
- bedside monitor. Noting Carolyn's state of undress, Sinclair tells the
- monitor to receive the call, "audio only." Ben starts in on his report...then
- stops. He can't see Sinclair. Sinclair, noting Carolyn who stirs beside him,
- says, of the monitor, "Slight malfunction."
-
- "Ah," Ben's voice comes..."Hello, Carolyn." He knows she's there, and
- tells Sinclair c'mon, let me see you while I'm talking to you...I'm a doctor,
- I'm not going to see anything I haven't seen before.
-
- With a shrug from Carolyn, Sinclair switches on the video.
-
- Ben's face appears on the monitor. He looks over to Carolyn. Smiles.
- "Nice tan."
-
- Carolyn's response...is best left unstated.
-
- Ben volunteered to come to Babylon 5 for several reasons: as the best in
- his field, he's most capable of dealing with any emergencies, and this is the
- sort of place where that is most needed. In addition, he's getting a little
- old to be hitch-hiking on starships...why not settle down somewhere where the
- aliens come to *you* instead of the other way around?
-
- He's single, his wife having passed away some five years ago, one more
- reason he's come to B5. There's nothing left at home for him now that she's
- gone. He has two grown children, one of whom is successful, the other...well,
- less so.
-
- He's been offered research grants from some of Earth's biggest
- corporations, universities have offered him important posts, the government
- would LOVE to have him come work for them (where, he suspects darkly, they
- would have him work on alien biological warfare)...but he's said no to all of
- them. His place is as a working physician and xenobiologist, at a place where
- he will have ample time to study the new species they encounter, and do his
- part for peace.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 205 Thu Jun 11, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:40 EDT
-
- What else they would call it...hmm..........home?
-
- I have some names for y'all, for those keeping track. We've finished
- assembling our crack first team on the production side, and I can pass along
- most of the names now. We're astonished at the sheer level of quality we've
- gotten on this stuff. And tickled to have them.
-
- Director: Richard Compton. One of the prime directors for The Equalizer
- and Hill Street Blues and Miami Vice.
-
- Director of Cinematography: Billy Dickson. Billy has an amazing eye for
- color and shadow and composition that many of you may have seen on the
- Desperado programs. First-class.
-
- EFX Director: Ron Thornton. Main EFX fellow behind The Addams Family,
- Highlander II, Plymouth, Dr. Who The Movie and others.
-
- Production Designer: John Iacovelli. Award winning production designer
- direct from Honey, I Shrunk The Kids and other projects.
-
- Production Manager/Line Producer: Bob Brown. Previously producer or
- production manager on War of the Roses, Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom,
- Return of the Jedi, Iceman and the three Childs Play movies.
-
- Casting Director: Mary Jo Slater. Mary Jo has cast untold numbers of
- movies and TV programs, from the revived Dark Shadows to the recent Intruders
- mini-series to Star Trek VI.
-
- Plus others we've nabbed from James Cameron's company, Steven Spielberg's
- company, George Lucas' company, Jim Henson's company, and others. Names as I
- can release them.
-
- This is a team that most any movie or TV series would *kill* for, and
- we're very happy to have them all aboard.
-
- Today I saw the new suite of offices we've acquired. People begin moving
- in this week. The numbers of people involved are expanding with astonishing
- speed. I strolled about in my new office, and that's when things begin to
- become very real. Have to acquire new furniture to fill it. That'll make
- three offices: my home office, my office at Universal, and my office at the
- Babylon 5 location, plus a smaller office at the set which I'll be sharing
- with my other executive producer, Doug Netter.
-
- It is now exactly 2 months to the day when we will begin rolling film.
- From this point on, the clock is ticking, and there's a LOT to be done. But
- we're in very good shape, and I'm looking forward to it immensely.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 211 Thu Jun 11, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 14:09 EDT
-
- The boxed episode was wrong; several of my episodes (not the best ones,
- but okay) appear in the other volumes of CP episodes; only about one-third
- made it onto cassette.
-
- As for how Carolyn got a tan...she's a trader, remember, and she's
- frequently planetside during her travels. So NYAH!
-
- jm(I think of everything)s
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 215 Thu Jun 11, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:27 EDT
-
- Doug Netter is Exec Producer on BABYLON 5. I am Co-Executive Producer.
- I worked with Doug on several projects in the past, including CAPTAIN POWER,
- where he was, again, producer. He's irascible, and every bit as much of a
- pain in the butt as I am. He grouses, carries on... one day I expect to
- wander into the offices and find him wearing a patch over one eye, a knife
- between his teeth, talking to a parrot and preparing to board the building
- next door.
-
- And I trust him implicitly. Doug is a straight-shooter. I have three
- rules I live by when I work on a project: I never lie, I never BS, and I
- never, EVER bluff. Doug's the same way. When he tells you he will do X, it
- happens. Period. He's a pro, and was previously the head of production at
- MGM.
-
- When we were working together on CP, Doug made me a promise. He said,
- "Look, Joe, you know me, I'm not a writer, that's not what I'm good at. So I
- will never give you a creative note. Production notes, hell yes. Creative
- scripts notes...no."
-
- And he kept that promise.
-
- Which is why, when it came time to show someone what I'd come up with on
- BABYLON 5, instead of going righ off the bat to a big studio or a network...I
- went to Doug. He liked it, and we formed a partnership to pruce the movie and
- the series. He's invested a lot of time and effort over the last 4 years,
- when it seemed it would never happen, but he never lost faith in the project.
-
- We have a great relationship: we insult each other shamelessly. I've
- even learned to somewhat mimic his voice, so I can return fire with his own
- words, in his own voice. When our casting director met with us for the first
- time and started going over how much she *loved* the script, he broke in, "No,
- no, no, jeez, what're you saying, you can't say that, we NEVER say that, I'm
- telling you you can't work with the man if you say that kind of thing. You
- gotta tell him it's *sufficient*, but just barely, and with luck we can save
- it in post. Jeez, no, don't ever do that again."
-
- He's a very funny man.
-
- I'm having him roughed up on Friday.
-
- THAT'S who Doug Netter is.
-
- Meanwhile...interesting things are happening. See, normally, when you do
- a syndicated show, it's tough finding the actors you want, because syndicated
- rates are across the board lower than network. That's a given on ANY show.
- So all parties were prepared for a long, hard search.
-
- Scripts started going out Monday.
-
- Growing since, then and particularly in the last 48 hours as scripts have
- arrived at homes, actors have been coming out of the woodwork at us, from all
- sides. Not just newcomers, we're talking *name* actors who read the script
- and fell in love with one or more of the characters and want to play them. My
- jaw fell at some of the names I heard over the phone today...actors who will
- do it for what we have, and want to do it very much.
-
- Big name or newcomer, though, we're going to see and consider everybody.
- You don't want to cast a Big Name just because he's a Big Name if he's wrong
- for the part...you screw yourself over bigtime if you do that. Similarly, if
- you don't cast a newcomer for a part even though he's *perfect* for the role,
- you again screw yourself over.
-
- But it looks like our range of choice is going to be a *lot* bigger than
- I'd expected. A *lot* bigger....
-
- Meanwhile...think good thoughts. I've always had one composer in mind
- for this show. People thought I was nuts. But we've got a good, not a great
- but a *good*, chance of nailing him. If we can, I'll be in heaven. Won't
- know for a while, though, so don't expect word on this one anytime soon.
-
- Boys and girls, THIS is the fun part!
-
- (In the voice of Dr. Smith, "'We can save it in post' indeed. Hmf! Oh
- the pain, the pain...come here, you clattering, clanking concatonation of
- useless cogs!")
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 231 Fri Jun 12, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:04 EDT
-
- When we get to the series, there will doubtless be guest stars, some of
- whom have already been arranged for. But not in the movie; we want to
- concentrate on our regulars and the ensemble at this point.
-
- The scene cut for time won't be filmed; you don't film what you know
- you'll have to leave on the cutting room floor. Later, though, when the
- series gets going...who knows, it might surface.
-
- I was sure I'd spoken more about Garibaldi. Okay, remind me in, say, 3
- weeks (top of July) and I'll go into more detail.
-
- About Frank Welker...I've actually enjoyed working with him over the
- years on TRGBs. Extraordinarily funny. By himself, he could get things so
- funny that we'd have to stop down, nobody could stop laughing.
-
- The absolute *worst* such incident _ and thus the best _ came on the
- last episode of mine. See, we had to always keep Maurice, Frank and _ ogod,
- the new Peter, I've forgotten the actor's name _ apart, because if they sat
- together, this weird comedy loop would start, and they'd get funnier, and
- funnier, and soon all hell would break out. (Once, when Lorenzo Music was
- still doing the show, Frank learned to mimic his voice. So one day, in
- taping, when Lorenzo missed his cue, Frank supplied his line...in his voice.
- Lorenzo looked around with a "What the hell was THAT?" look on his face.)
-
- Anyway...on this one day...all three of them were seated together, Frank,
- Maurice and the Other Guy Whose Name I Can't Remember. And they started
- improvising. And they went into Celebrity Farts. What would the farts of
- various celebrities sound like? (We're talking in the middle of a taping, for
- chrissakes.) Soon, Frank took the lead...Cher's fart, Twiggy's fart, Raymond
- Massie's fart, the Pope's fart....
-
- ...and then...and then...he let fly with...William Conrad's fart.
-
- And flattened the entire place.
-
- People were *literally* on the floor. No one could talk. Laughter and
- shrieking and carrying on for Twenty Minutes. Someone would try to get out a
- line...and just dissolve. And every time we *thought* we had it in control
- again...out would come another William Conrad Special.
-
- I thought I would die.
-
- Wonderful thing is, I have that on videotape, I think.
-
- I think I'll go find it....
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 237 Fri Jun 12, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:31 EDT
-
- David Coulier, right-right-right, that's the guy.
-
- Took a look at the videotape, and remembered one other thing. It took
- nearly 20 minutes to get things calmed down after Welker let fly. We had to
- take a break so everyone could get their heads screwed back on again.
- Everyone went back into the recording studio. Sat. A moment of silence as
- they get ready....
-
- And there comes Frank Welker's voice, "Y'know...you ever wonder what
- Charlton Heston's fart would sound like...?"
-
- The director lunged for the studio mike, "DON'T....YOU...***DARE***"
-
- He just smiled.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 245 Sat Jun 13, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:04 EDT
-
- Paula...being only nominally computer literate, that's a question far
- beyond my understanding. When Ron Thornton does his RTC with me prior to B5
- airdate, you might want to address that question to him.
-
- I seem to recall that the Conrad incident was *after* I'd finished
- working on the show, which made it just that much funnier. I mean, it just
- went on and on and on...windows were blown out...birds fell from the
- sky...women went into labor...animals keeled over and died...passing airplanes
- momentarily lost power...dogs for five miles in any direction suddenly looked
- around and wondered "What the hell was THAT?"....
-
- I can't believe it...I've degenerated my *own* topic into fart jokes.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 253 Sat Jun 13, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 20:09 EDT
-
- "What about sin?"
-
- Personally, I'm for it.
-
- And all of the areas you mention will fall under the eye of B5 from time
- to time. There's nothing more boring than someone who's overcome all his or
- her vices...so all of our characters will be prey to one problem or another.
- Ambassador Londo Mollari has a BIG gambling problem (and a secondary problem
- with women), Garibaldi has a history with alcohol and other substances that
- almost got him kicked out of his prior jobs...I find the most interesting
- people those who are always fighting to be better, to be more, to avoid
- falling into vice despite terrible temptation.
-
- And some will not survive that temptation.
-
- At the central core of our humanity is the fact that we are flawed, and
- it's overcoming those flaws that makes for real drama. Or, in some cases,
- being overcome BY those flaws.
-
- You have to understand the key issue that has always been, and will
- always be, at the *heart* of Babylon 5. In 99.9% of all SF-TV in the last
- twenty years or so, there have always been the Noble Good Guys and the Awful
- Bad Guys. I don't buy that. Whether it's 20 years from now or 200, we will
- still be humans. Some will be better or more noble than others, and some will
- be constantly on the lookout for the next scam, the next vice, the next thrill
- or danger or target.
-
- In Babylon 5, I want to hew as closely as possible to how REAL people
- would react in this situation. I haven't labored at this for four years to do
- one more Good Guy In Shoot-Em-Ups With The Bad Guys Show.
-
- Garibaldi will lapse in his rehabilitation. Londo will get in very
- serious trouble because of his vices. Laurel will have a run-in with certain
- chemicals. Even Sinclair will fall prey to a weakness of his own.
- The question is...what do each of them now DO about it? THAT is what makes
- it interesting.
-
- There's a short story entitled "The Man Who Corrupted Hadleyburg," by
- Mark Twain. In that story, we meet a town of people who have put up a sign
- outside their town, "Lead Us Not Into Temptation." And they have scrupulously
- avoided temptation for years. One day, into this town of self-proclaimed and
- self-satisfied virtue comes temptation, in the form of a bag of gold which
- someone, offering the right phrase, is supposed to collect. The man who
- really left it (and we find later it's lead), gives the town's most virtuous
- people fake phrases, to see if they will try and collect that which is not
- theirs.
-
- Every one of them fall for it...and the town is embarrassed and
- ashamed...and many are wonderfully vindicated by this. And now the sign in
- front of the town reads, "Lead us INTO Temptation." Because it's only when we
- are truly tested that our virtue means a damn thing.
-
- "The human heart in conflict with itself," William Faulkner said, is the
- only thing worth writing about. Mainstream shows explore that question in
- hospitals, in police stations, in lawyers offices, on the frontier. Now B5
- will explore it on the frontier of space, in a self-contained world of its
- own. If that wasn't the whole point, I'd have given up on this a long long
- time ago.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 261 Sun Jun 14, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:33 EDT
-
- Dan Quayle badmouthing the "elite" ... right ... a sissyfied, pantyassed,
- country-club-and-golf-swinging rich daddy's boy who couldn't knot his tie
- without an instruction manual and three aides calling somebody ELSE "elite."
- Well, at least we all know that "culturalelite" is not one word the way he
- says it, but two words. What a waste of genetic material. The man's an
- intellectual cul-de-sac and ought to be dropped down a sewer.
-
- It doesn't bother me.
-
- Meanwhile...I think it would be an error to blame the "non-internal-
- conflict" mode on the "suits." In the case of TNG, that came straight from
- Roddenberry, for instance. It is *still* firm policy that those aboard the
- Enterprise cannot _ CANNOT _ have internal doubts or fears.
-
- The execs at Warners never once mentioned anything about that, and have
- been unstintingly supportive of the project. Understand: I've now put the
- script through 3 drafts, all on my own initiative, and we have not gotten
- *one* note from Warners. We had a meeting on the last version, and except for
- a thought that it still might be a few pages too long, they had no suggestions
- at all. They WANT a different vision, something with teeth. And they've been
- endlessly supportive of that.
-
- B5 toys? Well, there's been contact with the licensing people. I sure
- hope so, I want some myself.
-
- As for Walter Koenig...I've already asked if he'd be willing to a) write
- a script for us (he's done a LOT of TV writing, something not generally
- known), b) guest-star in an episode, and c) do a cameo early on with, um, some
- other people you'd recognize. (sly smile)
-
- BTW...I've been thinking about it, and what do y'all think of the idea of
- a B5 newsletter? Nothing fancy, VERY bare-bones, but just something in
- writing that chronicles the inside info, profiles those involved, maybe shows
- some of the early designs, that sort of thing? What would be good about that
- is that it would thus be accessible to people who don't have a modem...if you
- want to turn somebody on to what's going on, you let him know about, or sign
- him on for, the newsletter.
-
- Would there be enough interest to support that? I don't know if
- contributions should be requested when subscribing, or just send it out
- freebie (or if there's enough interest for anyone to want to shell out a
- couple bucks for it). I happen to know somebody who does newsletters (hi, you-
- know-who), and have been considering hiring her to do the job if there's
- enough interest. At this point, probably just one per month to start, maybe
- getting fancier as we go.
-
- If it's even a good idea.
-
- What do y'all think?
-
- Oh...and there's a new B5 logo in the works. The more we've looked at
- the current version, the more we've thought maybe something else would work
- for the show. (We'd still use the old one, but for other purposes.) I gave
- Ron a write-up of what I thought would look *really* cool, and he is working
- on it now. Just FYI.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 288 Sun Jun 14, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 18:04 EDT
-
- Yikes, 21 messages since last night...okay, I think I'll go ahead and
- investigate the newsletter issue seriously. (Spoke to someone last night who
- can do the job, so we'll see.) As for the "should I/shouldn't I?" stuff...I
- actually wasn't being cute or ingenuous; I sometimes use this forum for
- thinking aloud. I really hadn't decided one way or another when I posted my
- message. Was actually looking for an opinion (and boy, did I get them!).
-
- The one thing I'm going to have to consider further along these lines is
- the fee question. One thing that I swore at the beginning of this whole
- process, long before I ever posted a single word about B5 (back even before it
- was That Which Could Not Be Named), was that I was very, very, VERY unhappy
- with the way media fans have been shilled and ripped off and exploited over
- the years, and that I would NOT do the same. Thus I have to be very careful,
- simply for my own peace of mind.
-
- Once the show gets up and going, running regularly, that's one thing.
- But right now, a newsletter almost benefits *this* end more than any other,
- because the show hasn't aired yet. (Yes, as you can see, I'm thinking aloud
- again.)
-
- So the *best* way to handle this might be as follows: it'll be nominally
- free for the time being. (Because printing costs and the cost of actually
- putting it together will be absorbed by Yr Obdnt Srvnt, not Warners, it won't
- be really fancy, but the guts will be there.) If somebody wants to contribute
- a buck or two, that's fine, but optional. Nor should anyone send in ANYthing
- until receiving one issue at least and determining at that time if it's worth
- it. (As I've said here before: take NO ONE, including me, at face value; be
- critical consumers.)
-
- Once we're on the air regularly, at some point it'll probably go into
- subscription mode (at the least possible fee, just enough to cover production
- costs). But not until then.
-
- I *think* that's fair.
-
- Anyway, for the moment, do nothing. I've got to make some phone calls
- and some arrangements. We already have a decent sized mailing list from those
- who've received shirts, so you're already on-line. At some point, we'll open
- it up and have anyone else who's interested send their addresses. But not
- until I have everything set up.
-
- Like I said...it won't be fancy. Just informative.
-
- (As for the schematics, I know that Ron has some cool ideas along the
- lines you mention, but I don't know the details yet. Will post when I do.)
-
- Somebody the other day, noting the enthusiasm in the fan community for a
- virtual outsider, described B5 as "the Ross Perot of science fiction
- television." I don't know if that's good or bad....
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 301 Mon Jun 15, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:31 EDT
-
- Agreed, the simpler the better. No ads for now. Just info.
-
- Phil, send me the B5 text file, and I'll approve it ASAP, just want to
- make sure I didn't say anything a) stupid, or b) no longer correct.
-
- I'm giving thought to opening up the shirts for general order at cost.
- When I decide on that one way or another, will post that info (and the
- address) here. Just being careful...there's only 500 of those things, and I'm
- not sure how many I'll be lugging to conventions.
-
- The "Making Of" documentary will be made during the filming of B5, so
- where it'll be appearing or when is an open question. I imagine it'll be
- supplied to E! and ET and other news organizations, and to the TV stations
- carrying B5 as promotional material. Since we don't want to blow our wad too
- early, I can't imagine it'd appear in general distribution anytime before
- December/January, though if I can get my hands on it, it may appear at a
- convention or two....
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 332 Tue Jun 16, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 21:20 EDT
-
- Excuse me while I fall down....
-
- It has been a *looooooooooooong* day.
-
- Met with some execs and showed them our progress...blew them away. They
- had no *idea* we had come so far, or were capable of so much. Also during
- this, they (and I) got to see the foam-core models for the first time of the
- B5 sets. They're really something else. We're taking a completely different,
- but very logical approach to building the sets than anyone is going to expect.
- Everything about them, the angles, the composition, is unique. Really cool
- stuff.
-
- Then went over sound stuff and other production details. For those
- keeping track, it does seem that we're going "non-whoosh" for our space
- sounds, to keep it closer to reality. Went over alien langauges, how we're
- handling sound in environmental respects, that sort of thing. And THEN met
- with the wardrobe designer we've selected, who kept laying out designs and
- photos and magazine pictures and ethnic clothing styles from various
- countries, "Is it like this? Or more like this?" And you're confronted with
- shadings and degrees and liens, and what is going to be the style 200 years
- from now?
-
- It's just a blur of decisions, and you're constantly surrounded by five
- or six people who need the answers to what the world looks like NOW so they
- can begin building it.
-
- After a while, you can't even see straight anymore, and all you want to
- do is go somewhere *far* away for a long long time.
-
- Not that it ain't fun, and not that it ain't exciting, but yikes!
-
- Will be seeing the audition tapes from New York tomorrow. We have
- already found some nice prospects. Will advise when I have a better idea.
- Going to collapse now.
-
- jms
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- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 342 Wed Jun 17, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:33 EDT
-
- By all means, go ahead with the badge et al. Sounds cool.
-
- Who are some of the actors we're getting in terms of shows?
-
- (Again, these are just *auditions,* not confirmed people; in fact, some
- we know we won't use at this point, but it's interesting to see who we're
- getting.)
-
- Got a call on the last bunch of people to come through, all of them very
- good. Person read down the list of names, and when I heard one of them I
- stopped dead. "WHO?!" I asked. She read the name again, and _ assuming, I
- suppose, that I didn't recognize it _ noted, "You know, from THE
- AVENGERS...?"
-
- Oh.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 363 Thu Jun 18, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 04:01 EDT
-
- No further comments on casting for the time being. And just FYI, I've
- formally changed Jackarr's name (as I once considered here, again thinking
- aloud). It's now spelled G'Kar, more in line with the way it's pronounced.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 376 Fri Jun 19, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:05 EDT
-
- Still thinking about music. And sound.
-
- Tomorrow will be an interesting day. We're doing a read-through. What
- that means is, we assemble the *full* production team: line producer,
- production manager, production designer, art director, director, director of
- cinematography, writer/producer (me), efx director, wardrobe person, and a
- bunch of others, along with several actors (just for that job, not on the
- series) who then read through the entire script, page by page, and everyone
- gets a chance to stop it and ask questions and discuss what's needed. It's a
- long and painstaking process that will probably take at least half the day.
-
- As well as doing all the production stuff with the rest of the team, I'm
- going to be listening very carefully to the dialogue, since this will be the
- first time I've heard the whole thing spoken aloud. Invariably, once you see
- how your words fit in somebody's mouth, you trim, rearrange, and otherwise
- futz with things. The goal to make the whole thing as airtight as possible.
-
- Sat and talked for a long time with the director today, Richard Compton,
- and he's even more excited about the project than when he began and he was
- pretty excited *then*. And found out something I didn't know until we spoke.
-
- Our script was "published" a week ago Wednesday. (Published here means
- that the script has been broken down and each scene numbered for production
- purposes, and that draft, now called the shooting script, is given to all
- production staff, sent to agents locally, that sort of thing.) The following
- day, Thursday, Richard arrived in New York to help with casting. What he
- discovered was that suddenly he was getting calls from practically every
- actor's agent in town about the show, AND THAT THEY ALL HAD THE SCRIPT AND HAD
- ALL **READ** THE SCRIPT!
-
- These were agents to whom we had not SENT the script. Apparently, as
- near as he was able to determine, the script was being bootlegged all over
- town, faxed and messengered and people were demanding copies. It's sort of
- "the" ticket in town now is to get a copy of the script. And the agents, and
- their clients, went nuts. I'd heard that people were coming out of the
- woodwork (and I'd mentioned it in passing here), but I had no idea really how
- it was happening. Actors were circulaing copies of the script among
- themselves and calling their agents and the casting director trying
- everywhichway to get in on the auditions, convinced from what they saw in the
- script that it was going to be a hit.
-
- None of this I knew in detail until today. I was astonished. The
- director just sat there and smiled. "You've never heard your script read,
- have you?" he asked. I allowed as how I hadn't. That smile again: "You're
- always mentioning how much you know of the story that isn't in the
- script...well, there's things *in* the script that I'd bet even YOU don't know
- are there, because they're things you put in subconsciously...but an actor can
- find them. And during the auditions, they did. They just chewed the
- dialogue, savored it. Loved it. Found all these wonderful little corners and
- subtext. Wait," he said, "just wait until you see the audition tapes
- tomorrow. You'll die."
-
- This sounds awful, I know, but the truth is, I just sat there and beamed.
-
-
- Sonuvabitch...y'know, this might actually *work*.
-
- We've decided, btw, to extend casting another 2 weeks. We've got some
- GREAT prospects, but Richard feels, and I agree, that since we've got the
- time, don't rush. Make the best choice possible. We've got the script, we've
- got the production team, we've got the EFX, we've got the director, we've got
- a terrific design on the sets...the last thing and the most important thing we
- need is the cast. If we can pull that part off...we've got it nailed.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 378 Fri Jun 19, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:53 EDT
-
- Someone who has no flaws to overcome is, in my view, a pretty crappy role
- model.
-
- You have to stop for a moment and ask yourself, seriously, what a role
- model *is*, or should be.
-
- Is a "role model" someone of privilege, or station, who is utterly absent
- of self-doubt or flaw?
-
- Someone, in other words, who is almost alien to us?
-
- Or is a real role model someone who has gone through the same things we
- have, experienced the same problems and frustrations and dead-ends as we have,
- but who has managed to overcome those problems and lead a life of dignity and
- grace?
-
- It's like saying which is the better role model for an explorer: someone
- who's ranged all over the plains, fallen down, gotten lost, cut his feet, but
- managed to find his way back safely...or the guy who reads plenty of maps, but
- never leaves his living room?
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 381 Fri Jun 19, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:55 EDT
-
- We'll probably end up getting an intern via one of the local
- universities.
-
- (Wonder if it'd be better to go for a creative writing student than a
- film student...the latter can be such a pain....)
-
- When did I get over being nervous and anxious at someone reading my
- words?
-
- Well, I'll tell you the truth: as soon as I hit that point, I'll let you
- know.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 393 Sat Jun 20, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:28 EDT
-
- Thanks, all. I suspect that Warners will splash the "Making Of" thing
- all over the place, and will thus leave that to them. As for the newsletter,
- I've pretty much made up my mind, but still have to at least run it past
- Warners as a formality.
-
- Had the run-through today, with actors on hand reading through the whole
- script (sort of a reader's theater rendering). Every so often, we'd stop and
- discuss how to do this effect or that sequence, but the interruptions were
- few.
-
- It was really a blast, I gotta tell you. See, when it's just in your
- head, you *think* you know how it'll work, but even then there's no way of
- knowing it'll work when it hits the stage. There's always some doubt. Barely
- slept at all last night, wondering, worrying the script in my head the way a
- dog worries a bone. Dragged my ass in early this morning, met the actors who
- were going to read through it with us, met everybody else (some of whom I
- hadn't met before...it was a *big* room and a *big* crowd from every branch of
- our production), grabbed a bagel and water (I don't think I could've handled
- coffee this morning), and sat at the long table facing the actors, hoping for
- the best.
-
- And like I said...it was a blast. See, a script is *meant* to be
- performed. It's still an art form unto itself, while it's on the printed
- page, but it's *meant* to be spoken, the way you can appreciate a musical
- score on a page, but it's only really alive when an orchestra gets its hands
- on the notes and brings it out into the world.
-
- Today I heard the birth cry of Babylon 5.
-
- The characters spoke, out loud, for the first time.
-
- In short, it went an *awful* lot better than I had dared to hope.
-
- The character stuff worked, the humor worked wonderfully (the whole room -
- - people who'd read the script dozens of times by now _ broke up repeatedly,
- and after one long laughing fit, one of the actresses called to me, "You are a
- very sick puppy. I like that in a man"), and the action was paced much faster
- than I'd thought, just seeing it on the page. (If anything, I may have to
- extend the scenes just a little during some of the action set-pieces...if it's
- too short, it feels perfunctory. I wanted it to move fast-fast-fast, but now
- I see that I can take just a beat or two more to give it more weight in
- places.)
-
- Some members of the crew felt that they'd finally "seen" the story for
- the first time, and everyone left the meeting absolutely jazzed.
-
- We wrapped at about 2:00. Five hours straight, and not one person left
- to go to the bathroom or stopped for a break. Nobody *wanted* to stop.
-
-
- Today was a very good day.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 408 Sun Jun 21, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:51 EDT
-
- ...and, Arne? What was the reaction?
-
- As for the new logo...I love it a lot. Won't be uploading it for a
- goodly time, because like I said, I want to hold some things back. But it's
- *way* cool.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 431 Tue Jun 23, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:27 EDT
-
- Located quite some distance away from B5 (a safe distance in case
- something goes wrong) is the jump point, which is a device which creates an
- "exit-point" from hyperspace. It's tremendously powerful, allowing smaller
- ships to use the system without lugging around the massive amount of
- equipement and power sources to burst back in.
-
- The area itself is several miles across. You go into one at point A, and
- emerge at point B. Big ships _ BIG ships _ can create their own entrances
- and exits (which explains how the gates or jump points got somewhere), and
- they construct the gates as exploration continues, leaving gates the way you'd
- leave bread crumbs.
-
- At least, that's the theory.
-
- Meanwhile, spent 6 hours watching tapes of actors auditioning,and sat in
- on some live auditions as well (the tapes were from New York). We have some
- REALLY good candidates. The hardest to cast, I figured, would be Delenn, for
- many reasons...but we may have lucked out right out of the _ um_ gate.
-
- There are times when you see a face, and just go, "Nahhh, that ain't it"
- and fast-forward...but you really do feel for these actors, the work it takes
- to get in the front door.
-
- Anyway, if we find nothing else, we've got strong prospects for at least
- half our cast, and two weeks more to go on casting, so we're in very good
- shape.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 433 Wed Jun 24, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:18 EDT
-
- Here's an important lesson:
-
- When someone comes to videotape you, and they tell you to sit back in
- your chair, SIT BACK IN YOUR CHAIR! Augh. I saw the videotape of the behind-
- the-scenes piece Warners did on us. And it's fine, really, it's got good
- stuff, it looks nice, it's just...everybody else sat back, so they used a lens
- with a slightly fisheye effect to bring them forward, but I have this tendency
- to get passionate when I talk, and I sit forward, and _ well _ I look like I
- gained 50 pounds at *least*. Combine that with the tendency of television to
- make you look heavier to begin with, and yikes!
-
- Anyway, that aside (I may never eat a pizza again), it came out well.
-
- More meetings today, costume and prosthetics and wardrobe and the like.
- Have some interesting new techniques we're going to try; don't know if they'll
- work yet or not, we have to do some tests, but if they do, it'll be cool.
- Also saw a still of the Narn ship for the first time. Not bad.
-
- This will be brief; have been on the go since forever today, and am about
- ready to fall flat on my face.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 443 Thu Jun 25, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 00:24 EDT
-
- To a prior message...yes, I'll be at Comic Con. I'm slated to do the
- Westercon/Westercolt presentation on that Saturday at 1:00.
-
- I sometimes think that EVERYBODY knows somebody who's auditioning for B5.
- Good look to him. We've found a good prospect, but we're keeping our minds
- open. (We found a *very* interesting prospect for Londo the other day.)
-
- This is going to sound awful, and I shouldn't take pleasure in it, but I
- *swear* it's true, there were other people in the room, I wouldn't make
- something like this up...COULDN'T...I was sitting in on auditions the other
- day, hiding behind the camera, didn't want the actors to know that the
- writer/producer was hanging around. So this one actor comes in to audition,
- saying all these wonderful thigns about the script, and then pulls a sour face
- and says, "Yeah, I was auditioning yesterday for that other show. DeepSpace
- Whatever. Man, what a piece of sh!t."
-
- I practically fell out of my chair.
-
- Forgive me. I'm a sick man.
-
- (And, of course, there's every possibility that he said EXACTLY the same
- thing in reverse. The one thing I'm learning is never to take easy
- compliments too seriously. That way lies madness.)
-
- Anyway....
-
- Interesting prosthetics discussion the other day. We're trying to find
- different or offbeat things to do with the look of characters, and their
- wardrobe...which is *tough*, because so much has been done over time. We've
- absolutely ruled out the Forehead approach, but then you've got other problems
- to consider. See, that's the one part of an actor's head that's relatively
- unused (boy, what a straight line). For instance, you don't want to cover the
- eyes or the mouth, since that's where an actor does 90% of his or her work.
- So you start looking at other options: cheeks, necks, arms, head-shapes,
- coloration, texture, on and on, while trying to avoid the obvious dumbnesses
- (no metallic skin coloration, it either doesn't show up well on camera, or
- looks like something out of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea).
-
- There's the question of how MANY alien species you're going to see on
- camera, how many of each, what sizes, do you use appliances that take less
- time than straight makeup? How many costumes are required? If a race has
- several representatives on board, do they all dress exactly the same (more
- cost effective), or do they all dress with variations of the same (more
- expensive)? Do you mix mechanicals with costumes? How do you deal with the
- lighting as it affects makeup and wardrobe? How much color do you want to go
- for? How will wardrobe vary depending on location of the set?
-
- The process of asking those questions entailed locking me in a room with
- our EFX guys, the director, prosthetics and wardrobe people, and they just
- kept hitting me with this stuff for about 2 or 3 hours. (You get kind of
- punchdrunk after a while..."What did you have in mind when you described the
- (blank)?" "I had in mind *exactly* what the wardrobe guy is going to give us
- because I knew intuitively, being able to see into the future, that he would
- know *exactly* what I meant, he wouldn't require further explanation, and once
-
-
- (Sometimes they hit me.)
-
- Fortunately, they all *do* seem very much in tune with what I saw in my
- head when I wrote the script, so it went fairly smoothly overall.
-
- May have some interesting licensing news to pass along soon.
-
- Meanwhile, we now begin the process of further organizing our PR with
- Warners so we can get the most bang for our buck, and coordinate our efforts.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 448 Thu Jun 25, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:45 EDT
-
- Yeah, we're looking at that kind of approach as well. I think the best
- way to go is a mix of things, different techniques and looks.
-
- S.Schaper...dead on re: the military/tactical stuff. And you will get to
- see some of that in the pilot.
-
- Man, it's a sharp crowd around here....
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 456 Fri Jun 26, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:51 EDT
-
- Boy, another long day, and lots of questions here. I think I'll tackle
- the questions first, then some news.
-
- Yes, there will be classes of ships, and we've come up with some
- interesting ideas on how to play some of that. You will *definitely* see some
- of those variations in the 2-hour pilot.
-
- And yes, more than one-on-one. That's all I can say for the moment on
- those two topics.
-
- I imagine, down the road, we'll be more flexible on the forehead
- issue...it's just that, to start, we want something that's consistently
- different. One of the most important aspects to all of this is that we
- establish a completely different identity to anything else around. So we
- make some concessions to that. But over time, we'll be flexible.
-
- Re: a B5 roleplaying game...if someone at a roleplaying company wants to
- license one, or for that matter if ANY licenser (toys, games, whatever) wants
- to license B5 stuff, they should go through the Licensing Company of America,
- Warners' in-house licensing company.
-
- Yes, I was adjacent to the Penguin's Lair set, which was across from my
- office at Universal. Got to hang around the set and stuff. My (then)
- secretary stopped appearing at her desk after a while, and could almost
- invariably be found down at the penguin tank, feeding the birds.
-
- The budget is, natch, classified. At least for the time being. But we
- are absolutely staying within the budget allocated. The difference between
- any other SF show and this one is that we're doing things in a very different
- way, looking at ways of making sets or using our resources such that we get
- more bang for our buck. There's an *awful* lot of waste in TV. We're putting
- every dollar up there on the screen, and our people have found some
- wonderfully ingenious ways to make everything bigger, better, and more
- flexible. In addition, most times a budget gets out of control is when you
- back into your set design, you start making changes, throw out one thing or
- another....
-
- We've had four years to plan this out. And that advance planning is
- showing in every aspect of the show, including set design, production, EFX,
- prosthetics, you name it. We've already locked down the blueprints for all of
- our sets. That's well in advance of where most shows are at this point. We
- already know in advance roughly how many episodes in the first season we will
- be using various characters, so that helps us set the acting budget. Why pay
- an actor for 22 episodes if you're only planning to use him for 11? Most
- times, nobody KNOWS how many shows an actor is going to appear in, and pay him
- for the run of the show, only to use him for half the episodes. Happens all
- the time.
-
- Most shows are not run terribly responsibly. I believe right down to my
- socks that if someone is going to give me several million dollars to go make
- something, it behooves me to use that money *responsibly*. And in this case,
- because *so* much is known ahead of time about the requirements of the show,
- it's eminently easy to work to a budget, and yet wind up with something that's
- not simply acceptable, but which will simply blow your socks off.
-
- On to the news:
-
- More casting today. Saw a *dynamite* Sinclair. And, for the first time,
- a *really* good Lyta. (Oh, and by the way...since the actors all come in with
- different pronunciations, I figured it might not be generally known...it's
- pronounced "Leeta.") Also had a meeting with the publicity people at Warners,
- who're starting to gear up for the B5 publicity campaign. Not much has been
- done until now because we don't hit the air until February, and nobody wants
- to blow the momentum ahead of time.
-
- Managed to get a copy of the short B5 promo film with interviews, and
- will add that to the convention tape I bring around.
-
- And now, as for the newsletter: it's now a go, having checked with
- Warners to be sure we didn't overlap. No working title yet. (Hmm...how about
- this: the person who comes up with the best title for the BABYLON 5 newsletter
- gets one of the rare, early B5 color portfoios? If you decide to go for it,
- post the stuff here, but try to put several into one message, rather than a
- bunch of separate ones.)
-
- The editor/writer of the XXXX, The Official Newsletter of Babylon 5, is
- Katherine Lawrence (known to locals as sf-lawrence).
-
- I'll have her get the current mailing list of folks who've gotten t-
- shirts from the B5 offices. We plan on adding as many of the convention
- programmers from around the country as possible. How she wants to add other
- names from here is up to her...whether she wants them now, via email, or
- later, or what. (KL: don't have 'em come via the B5 offices, we'd be
- swamped.)
-
- Target date for Issue #1 is August 1st.
-
- That said...it's now out of my hair. I'll let Katherine handle any and
- all inquiries about the newsletter. I don't wanna know from it for a while;
- I'm up to my ears in production at the moment.
-
- There's a lot more news breaking, but I'll save some of it for another
- time.
-
- One kind of fun thing...I was playing with the set models today at the
- office, and found that if you pick them up, and peer through the plastic
- portholes and/or entrances, you can sort of get a camera's eye view of the
- thing...like actually being on set in miniature. Talk about a thrill...I
- can't *imagine* what it's gonna be like to actually stand on the set of the B5
- observation dome when it's finished. (These sets, by the way, are *big*, boys
- and girls; I'm talking BIG.)
-
- Onward!
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 461 Fri Jun 26, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 02:52 EDT
-
- Yes, there will be married couples. And singles. And unmarried couples.
- And sex. And on and on.
-
- Interesting ideas..."The Tower of Babylon 5" ain't bad, but we've got a
- long ways to go until we get a final title. (I think that "Straczynski's Log"
- is...well...a little *personal*...not to brag, of course....)
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 493 Sat Jun 27, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 05:42 EDT
-
- Some good names here; some I rather like.
-
- The circulation of the newsletter is going to be much broader than just
- to Genie-ites; if that were the extent of it, then we wouldn't NEED a
- newsletter. It's to plug in the...er..un-plugged-in.
-
- Saw some more actors today, some more cool EFX, and for the first time,
- sketches of the prosthetics we'll be using for some of the actors. WAY neat.
- G'Kar is especially interesting.
-
- Long day (those who listen to HOUR 25 know why), so this'll be brief.
- Good things coming.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 529 Sun Jun 28, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 16:39 EDT
-
- All suggestions are equally considered...even the loony ones.
-
- Yes, when I'm finished with the B5 movie, I'll continue with M,SW (as I
- am now, in fact), until the season concludes in February...which is about when
- we'll dig in seriously on the B5 series. What that means is that I'm really
- doing double duty...I steal a few early-morning hours for B5, then go to M,SW,
- put in a full day, leave around 5ish, then go to B5 and don't return home
- again until sometimes 10 or 10:30 p.m. (And of course there are days when I
- have to be at B5 all day, for casting and other reasons.) So I'm sometimes on
- the go as much as 18-20 hours a day, depending on what's up. Fortunately, the
- producers at M,SW are fully aware of the situation, and support it, and as
- long as I continue to handle my workload, have no problem with it.
-
- There is a tendency to forget where one lives sometimes, though....
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 540 Mon Jun 29, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:13 EDT
-
- Trying to decide what and where to go now that Lady K. has opted out.
- Sigh. One more decision.....
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 548 Tue Jun 30, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 01:59 EDT
-
- (pant-pant-pant) Barely a few minutes here to log on and update.
-
- Meetings galore. Today we locked down the actual, physical look of our
- main alien characters, and man, they're great. Just great. We've got Steve
- Burg, one of the main conceptual designers behind Terminator 2, and John
- Criswell, one of the main guys from the Henson Creature Shop, linked to handle
- prosthetics and related areas. They've both always wanted to cut loose with
- what they can do, and we're hoping to give them that opportunity.
-
- So now the look of Londo, G'Kar, Delenn and Kosh is (are?) set. I think
- you'll approve (sly smile).
-
- Will lock down some of the cast in the next few days; the rest of the
- cast in the next 7-10 days. Set design has been approved by the studio.
- We're now in the process of making deals for actors, construction firms, efx
- shops and the like. We're *really* starting to move now.
-
- That's the funny thing about a production like this...it takes a long
- time to get moving; it's like slowly pushing a huge boulder inch by inch until
- gradually it begins to pick up momentum...goes faster...and then it's all you
- can do to keep it from speeding out of control, which is something you always
- have to guard against when you've got *so* many people running in different
- directions, doing different things.
-
- Onward.
-
- jms
- ______
- Category 18, Topic 22
- Message 550 Tue Jun 30, 1992
- STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 03:04 EDT
-
- I'll answer that question the second week in August. Trust me, I have a
- reason for delaying the answer.
-
- jms
- ______
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