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  1. The following postings from JMS (and occasionally others) are from the
  2. CompuServe information service. They're collected by Michele Worley,
  3. michele_l_worley@yahoo.com.
  4. BABYLON 5: MINBARI CASTES #801209 (Reposted with author's permission)
  5. DATE: WED AUG 24, 1994 12:46:08
  6. FROM: IMS, 75050,357
  7. Question: Do the Religious Caste perform functions
  8. similar to our organized religions for the Warrior
  9. Caste and workers? It would seem that the Religious
  10. Caste could either be the ones who provide spiritual
  11. guidance, rituals, ceremonies, religious teaching, etc.
  12. for the others or they could be more monastic in nature
  13. preferring a scholarly, aloof lifestyle separate from
  14. the other two groups.
  15. I'm curious about the role of the Religious Caste in
  16. everyday Minbari life.
  17. Thanks for a great show!
  18. DATE: WED AUG 24, 1994 2:23:04 (#801261)
  19. That describes it pretty well; I'll probably
  20. get into this more in detail down the road a piece.
  21. jms
  22. DATE: THUR AUG 25, 1994 1:14:04 AM #801949
  23. There will be 22 episodes in season two.
  24. jms
  25. DATE: THUR AUG 25, 1994 9:06:29 PM #802638
  26. Usually, depending on circumstances, it takes me about 2 weeks to
  27. write any episode of a TV series, including B5. That's from zero, no
  28. outline, to finished script. I've done it in as little time as two days
  29. (when I was on Murder, She Wrote). Optimum is about 7-10 days.
  30. jms
  31. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 4:23:02 AM #803023
  32. "What was the hardest thing you ever had to write?"
  33. Usually it's the next thing...whatever that happens to be.
  34. (If you take it out of the area of scripts, then the hardest
  35. thing I've ever had to write was my second novel, emotionally and
  36. physically, since I was doing about 3 jobs simultaneously. The next
  37. really major hurdle waiting for me is my planned 3rd novel, which
  38. will be around 1,000 pages and extremely complex.)
  39. jms
  40. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:18 PM #804003
  41. The planned third novel is more along the lines of
  42. contemporary dark fantasy, not horror.
  43. jms
  44. DATE: THUR AUG 25, 1994 9:06:26 PM #802636
  45. Generally speaking, I don't write for other shows.
  46. The pilot for the other SF series was written during
  47. the hiatus. I haven't written for any other series
  48. since taking on B5.
  49. jms
  50. --------------------------------------------------
  51. QUESTION #803044: (JMS' new pilot != JMS' movie screenplay?)
  52. --------------------------------------------------
  53. BABYLON 5: NEW JMS PROJECTS #803996
  54. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:05 PM
  55. Yes, but I separate out "movies" from "shows/series." The
  56. GRIMJACK screenplay will be turn in around the end of the year.
  57. If the other pilot should go to series, I'll exec produce and
  58. write some of it, but will have to bring on a qualified show runner
  59. for day-to-day operations.
  60. jms
  61. BABYLON 5: B5 AND COMPUTERS #803998
  62. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:08 PM
  63. No, can't currently discuss the other pilot in any detail
  64. other than to say that it's contemporary SF.
  65. jms
  66. BABYLON 5: B5 AND COMPUTERS #804000
  67. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:12 PM
  68. A lot of other shows now gearing up are looking to the B5 "model"
  69. as they call it for what to do, including CGI. The only show that is
  70. not going to CGI, it seems, is ST.
  71. The result of all this, one hopes will be more SF series coming out
  72. where because there isn't the constant concern about what EFX you can and
  73. can't do, they can concentrate more on the story.
  74. jms
  75. BABYLON 5: NEW JMS PROJECTS #804001
  76. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:14 PM
  77. People who've noted the datestamps on my messages on
  78. various systems find they're posted at all times of day...
  79. up to 3-4 a.m. Basically, I'm working from the minute I get
  80. up, to the minute I go to sleep, with one-hour breaks for
  81. lunch and dinner, and sometimes I'll watch Letterman or
  82. TV Nation, but that's about it. I sleep maybe 4-5 hours a
  83. day.
  84. jms
  85. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 3:24:21 AM #805189
  86. Personally, I still like the pets on prozac story
  87. (though I kinda preferred the log-dog *before* they
  88. gave him the prozac).
  89. jms
  90. BABYLON 5: AFTER THE 2ND SEASON #802639
  91. DATE: THURS AUG 25, 1994 9:06:30 PM
  92. The SF channel doesn't have the money required to produce full scale
  93. dramatic series, which is why they do basic talk-format shows. And B5 is
  94. basically owned by PTEN, not me (the same way Paramount owned ST, not
  95. Roddenberry). So anything afterward becomes highly problematic.
  96. jms
  97. ----------------------------------
  98. QUESTION: invitation to Mid-Ohio-Con (Nov 26-27)
  99. ----------------------------------
  100. DATE: THURS AUG 25, 1994 9:06:27 PM #802637
  101. I don't think I can do mid-Ohio-con, simply because
  102. I'll be doing three others at that time, and I suspect
  103. I'm going to be convention'd out by that point, and there
  104. is this little series they tell me I'm supposed to be
  105. exec producing....
  106. jms
  107. -----------------------------------
  108. QUESTION #803327: Will you show Chrysalis at the Dallas
  109. convention? (paraphrase)
  110. -----------------------------------
  111. BABYLON 5: CONVENTION APPEARANCE #803997
  112. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:07 PM
  113. No plans currently for a showing of "Chrysalis," but
  114. I'll know more the closer we get to that date.
  115. jms
  116. BABYLON 5: BORING B5 #802615
  117. DATE: THURS AUG 25, 1994 8:54:04 PM
  118. Then stop watching. If you don't like a show, stop
  119. watching. I don't understand, and have never understood,
  120. people who watch a show they say they don't like, just to
  121. crab about it.
  122. jms
  123. BABYLON 5: BORING B5 #804002
  124. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:16 PM
  125. What I *don't* understand is how you can characterize
  126. the show as harmless and fluff...we've had parents who kill
  127. their children, an alcoholic main character who's still
  128. recovering, a commander with a death wish, a second in command
  129. going through the emotional turmoil of sitting shiva for her
  130. dead father and still dealing with the death of her mother by
  131. suicide... well, I could go on, but I don't much see the point.
  132. What you see is what you see.
  133. jms
  134. BABYLON 5: B5 AND COMPUTERS #802903
  135. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 12:59:03 AM
  136. Yes, CGI will be used in the second project we're doing, which is
  137. even more challenging (and interesting) from an EFX perspective because
  138. there will be a lot of location filming.
  139. As far as the amount of CGI for this coming season...as with our
  140. first season, there will be as much as the stories require, no less, no
  141. more. The effects have to service the story, not the other way around.
  142. jms
  143. BABYLON 5: NEW JMS PROJECTS #803024
  144. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 4:23:04 AM
  145. Nothing will ever be allowed to affect B5.
  146. jms
  147. ----------------------------------
  148. COMMENT: Things around here are slow because of reruns (paraphrase
  149. from #802665)
  150. -----------------------------------
  151. BABYLON 5: RERUNS #802936
  152. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 1:30:21 AM
  153. Actually, I'm not entirely sure that's true. I've been tracking
  154. the audience response, and the ratings for the last seven weeks have
  155. ALL increased over the one before, a step up every week by as much as a
  156. third of a ratings point. So we're suddenly adding a *lot* of new
  157. viewers to whom the reruns are first-run.
  158. Also, gauging from the mail we get at the B5 offices, we've added a
  159. lot of new viewers since TNG went off the air. Several people have
  160. written in to say that while TNG was on, they felt funny about going over
  161. to B5, despite having heard some good things about it. When TNG was gone,
  162. one of those obstacles was removed, and now they've been sampling the show.
  163. Finally, after being on the air for a full year, there's finally been
  164. enough time for word of mouth to start getting around, and that's also
  165. adding to the viewership. So I suspect that there will be a fair number
  166. of folks with comments about reruns that they're seeing for the first time.
  167. jms
  168. BABYLON 5: O'HARE/SINCLAIR--WHY?? #805194
  169. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 3:38:30 AM
  170. Actually, yes, I believe there is a Michael O'Hare Fan Club; I saw
  171. a posting on Internet about it...maybe someone else here saw it and can
  172. relay the details.
  173. I have, btw, now seen the finished (minus music and some minimal EFX)
  174. first episode of B5 with Bruce. We did the producer's cut yesterday, and
  175. I have to say that I think it's very nice. Last season's first episode was,
  176. I think (and as I said at the time), a bit less than it could've been from
  177. a characterization point of view. That was something we grew into slowly
  178. over the course of the season.
  179. In this year two first-episode, there's a lot of humor, some interesting
  180. plot turns, and a very solid emphasis on the characters. It's sort of a
  181. sandwich episode; "Chrysalis," the last year one episode (which apparently
  182. will air a week prior to season two's debut), is *extremely* intense...so is
  183. the second episode of year two, "Revelations." People are going to need
  184. some respite from that, and "Points of Departure" does this quite nicely.
  185. And Bruce does a wonderful job in the role. He's brought a lot to the
  186. table, and I think people are going to be very pleased.
  187. jms
  188. STAR TREK: DAVID ALEXANDER: MORE #791971
  189. TO: ALL
  190. DATE: SUN AUG 14, 1994 11:57:07 PM
  191. To all and sundry...just to put some closure on the whole David Alexander
  192. situation, I thought I'd pass this along. Near as I can tell, this is a
  193. reply to a message of mine, here on this forum, that scrolled off the
  194. forum and ended up in DA's mailbox. He replied to it. Since it was a
  195. reply to a public message, I'm passing it along here, in toto, without
  196. revision or distortion. (All I can assume from memory is that I was
  197. noting in my original message that he never did deal with *any* of the
  198. issues raised in my original posting calling several of his statements
  199. into question, particularly when they contradicted one another.
  200. The only comment that I would make on the following is that 1) I never got
  201. ANY answers to ANY of the questions raised, which kinda makes moot the
  202. "not to your liking" aspect, and 2) I never said, implied, or stated that
  203. I was any kind of authority on Roddenberry's life...my questions were
  204. based strictly on the statements made by Alexander within the context of
  205. his message, which seemed to clearly indicate substantial bias against
  206. Gerrold and others.
  207. Once again, the question is misstated and bent to make it easier to attack.
  208. Ah, well...message follows.
  209. ***
  210. Date: 14-Aug-94 13:41 PDT From: David Alexander [71271,1162]
  211. Reply to: Message Scrolled from SF & Fantasy Forum
  212. Mr. Straczinski,
  213. You labor under the illusion that because you send questions and demand a
  214. response that I am, somehow, under obligation to respond, and if those
  215. answers are not to your liking, then I am to respond again and again to
  216. any and all questions you care to put - as if you were some sort of final
  217. authority on the truth of Gene Roddenberry's life or my motivation in
  218. writing his biography. I have no interest in becoming involved in what
  219. is clearly a CompuServe "tar baby."
  220. I admit that I was unaware of the "rules of behavior," that one had to
  221. cleverly couch one's insults and snottiness in polite language. Of
  222. course, I had been attacked and accused of a number of things, including
  223. felonious behavior, for several weeks before I came on the forum, but
  224. that doesn't seem to matter. I was blunt in my response and a number of
  225. people took insult and made their feelings known publicly - but a number
  226. of people also wrote me privately, telling me how funny they thought it
  227. was and how deserving they thought you were.
  228. When I was a child, we were plagued with door to door salesmen. My mother
  229. had a sign made up that was quite effective.
  230. "You have nothing to sell or give away that I am interested in. Please do
  231. not waste your time and mine by calling me to the door.
  232. Thank You"
  233. I think that sentiment is appropriate here. My error was not invoking it
  234. at the beginning.
  235. David Alexander
  236. STAR TREK: START OF VOYAGER #803030
  237. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 4:37:07 AM
  238. Today's DAILY VARIETY had a big article about the problems over on
  239. Voyager, titled CAPTAIN QUEST LEAVES ENTERPRISE ON AUTOPILOT. (Some
  240. edits for space follow; nothing significant was omitted.)
  241. "The search for a captain for "Star Trek: Voyager"...has at least
  242. reached yellow-alert status. Though production was to begin next Monday,
  243. the show shut down Tuesday because of an inability to get a star, or even
  244. figure out whether to weave a male or female uniform...."
  245. It talks about ST fans faxing Paramount "unhappy missives because of
  246. rumors the studio was trying to fill the role with a male actor." Plans
  247. for a female character "has yet to yield a candidate acceptable to both
  248. the producers and Paramount."
  249. It mentions some of the candidates, including Susan Gibney, then
  250. notes: "The studio, apparently concerned that the traditionally strong
  251. male demos of "Star Trek" warranted a male star, was initially cool to
  252. Gibney and widened the search to men. Sources said the studio is high
  253. on Nigel Havers, the British actor known for 'Chariots of Fire.'
  254. "Though speculation is the show could still begin shooting Monday
  255. around its non-cast, that would be a challenge. Scripts would have to be
  256. rewritten depending on who gets the top job."
  257. Last coment from the article: "Par might be skeptical about handing
  258. over the keys to the Enterprise to a woman," and then goes on to mention
  259. that the person being brought on potentially to run one of the new nets is
  260. a woman, which then goes off on another tangent.
  261. If the studio would just let talented people like Jeri Taylor alone
  262. to do their job, they wouldn't be *in* this fix. But it's The Franchise,
  263. and the studio doesn't ever want to do anything risky to endanger that
  264. franchise.
  265. jms
  266. BABYLON 5: QOM--RESURRECTIONIST #802640
  267. DATE: THURS AUG 25, 1994 9:06:31 PM
  268. In my original thoughts about the episode, there was
  269. more of a con man ressurectionist angle to the show, which
  270. later got dropped.
  271. jms
  272. ------------------------
  273. The following refer to "Believers".
  274. ------------------------
  275. BABYLON 5: QOFM GOV'T HYPOCRISY #803999
  276. DATE: FRI AUG 26, 1994 11:34:10 PM
  277. No, the parents were not charged with murder. When a species
  278. on the station acts against one of their own kind in a particular
  279. way, and no other species is affected, they are judged by the laws
  280. that apply to their own species and culture. In their culture,
  281. what they did is not a crime, so they received no punishment. Had
  282. they done this to a human, then yes, they would have been charged
  283. with murder.
  284. jms
  285. BABYLON 5: QOFM GOV'T HYPOCRISY #805188
  286. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 3:24:20 AM
  287. The area that cannot be opened is the chest area, primarily;
  288. a nick or cut or scratch really doesn't count; it's puncturing to
  289. the body cavity wherein the soul is housed.
  290. jms
  291. STAR TREK: START OF VOYAGER #805619
  292. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 6:11:15 PM
  293. It wasn't my post, really; it was only a verbatim quote from
  294. DAILY VARIETY. If he has a problem with the information, he should
  295. take his concern to DAILY VARIETY.
  296. The only comment that I made within that post was that the studio
  297. should let people like Jeri Taylor do what they do best, which is
  298. make the show as good as it can be. If that is problematic to Brannon,
  299. I can't for the life of me understand why.
  300. jms
  301. BABYLON 5: BAB 5 ON PARAMOUNT #807136
  302. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 12:19:17 AM
  303. Paramount has nothing to do with Babylon 5. B5 is distributed by
  304. Warner Bros. through PTEN (Prime Time Entertainment Network); though it
  305. appears on some Fox stations, Fox is in no way involved in the production
  306. of the show.
  307. B5 will never be part of the Paramount network.
  308. jms
  309. STAR TREK: VOYAGER == END OF TREK #807135
  310. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 12:19:15 AM
  311. Excuse me, but having created B5, it a) has nothing to do with
  312. Battlestar Galactica, which I totally disliked, and b) was developed
  313. prior to ST:TNG going on the air.
  314. You're only bringing it in in an "Oh, yeah?!" sort of way.
  315. Just because you're confused about ST don't drag B5 into this.
  316. jms
  317. STAR TREK: VOYAGER == END OF TREK #807327
  318. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 3:50:01 AM
  319. The first notes and drafts on Babylon 5 go back to 1976,
  320. though the first script wasn't finished until 1977/78.
  321. jms
  322. STAR TREK: *BUJOLD IS VOY CAPTAIN!* #808399
  323. DATE: WED AUG 31, 1994 2:07:20
  324. Funny thing is...the word on the street is that Ed Marinara's agent
  325. was just about to release a press release (or did release one) last week
  326. stating that Ed was going to be the new captain. If something happened
  327. at the last moment, then that's very interesting.
  328. Either way, I think it's an excellent choice, and in the rush
  329. of people crediting Berman and Pillar, I think perhaps a few might
  330. want to credit Jeri Taylor, who was the most vigorous in pushing
  331. for this, and fought very hard for it. As co-creator of Voyager,
  332. she often gets insufficient credit due to the familiarity of Berman
  333. and Pillar. She keeps a lower profile, but don't lose sight of her.
  334. jms
  335. ==============================================
  336. QUESTION #808463: Do you think the fan campaign for
  337. a female captain brought this about?
  338. ==============================================
  339. STAR TREK: *BUJOLD IS VOY CAPTAIN* #808906
  340. DATE: WED AUG 31, 1994 6:33:00
  341. I think that David Gerrold starting the campaign here and elsewhere
  342. was actually a big help. How much a help it was to them getting what
  343. they wanted is something I don't know, because obviously I'm not there.
  344. But I'm sure it was a help to one degree or another.
  345. jms
  346. BABYLON 5: TOP TEN LIST #807120
  347. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 12:04:10 AM
  348. People are also bound to say B5 folk can't do math.
  349. There were 11 items in your top ten.
  350. "Much apologizing...mathematics not Zathras' skill...."
  351. jms
  352. ==============
  353. COMMENT: worried about Sinclair leaving
  354. ==============
  355. BABYLON 5: BABYLON SQUARED #806642
  356. DATE: MON AUG 29, 1994 6:00:22 PM
  357. Nope, the storyline still tracks just fine. There's just
  358. no reason to have everyone static and stuck in the same place
  359. for the next X-years.
  360. jms
  361. BABYLON 5: OPENING MONOLOGUE #806645
  362. DATE: MON AUG 29, 1994 6:00:29 PM
  363. Yes, we will definitely be changing the narration each year; the
  364. year two narration will likely be shorter, with some personal touch
  365. (I'm in the process of writing it now), and it'll vary in phraseology
  366. with each new narrator.
  367. jms
  368. BABYLON 5: OPENING MONOLOGUE #807118
  369. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 12:04:07 AM
  370. Another way you'll know immediately what season it is, besides
  371. the voice, is that the date in each intro will vary; the date in the
  372. second season narration will be 2259, and so on.
  373. jms
  374. BABYLON 5: OPENING MONOLOGUE #809327
  375. DATE: THURS SEPT 1, 1994 1:13:17
  376. The year mentioned in the pilot is 2257.
  377. Year one of the series is 2258, year two is 2259, and so on.
  378. jms
  379. BABYLON 5: JUMP GATES #808393
  380. DATE: WED AUG 31, 1994 1:55:28
  381. Jump gates aren't instantaneous; transit within a gate is usually
  382. a couple of days, though it seems a bit longer to those outside.
  383. jms
  384. -------------
  385. BABYLON 5: B5 GRAVITY #808915
  386. DATE: WED AUG 31, 1994 6:46:05
  387. The 2.5 million tons of spinning *metal* refers only to that part,
  388. the metal casing. It doesn't include the furniture, the structures,
  389. the Garden, the 250,000 humans and aliens...so the total mass of the thing
  390. is MUCH greater than the 2.5 megatons. Also, the body was shoved out of
  391. the area around the cargo bay, non-rotating, which would also cut down on
  392. the momentum (as opposed to shoving out out of the rotating part, where
  393. it would speed away at 1g).
  394. jms
  395. ---------------
  396. BABYLON 5: QOFM GOV'T HYPOCRISY #805188
  397. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 3:24:20 AM
  398. The area that cannot be opened is the chest area,
  399. primarily; a nick or cut or scratch really doesn't count;
  400. it's puncturing to the body cavity wherein the soul is housed.
  401. jms
  402. BABYLON 5: BELIEVERS #806643
  403. DATE: MON AUG 29, 1994 6:00:24 PM
  404. Actually, I disagree when you say that the doctor was right.
  405. Says who? Not the parents. Not the episode. Nobody was really
  406. right, when you come down to it, except maybe Sinclair, who made
  407. the correct call. You say the boy was okay at the end...the parents
  408. didn't think so. Who's to say if there was or wasn't a soul inside?
  409. I think David's script walked a very fine line and really didn't
  410. endorse either side. (I've had people send me email upset because we
  411. showed that the parents were right, and others because we said the doctor
  412. was right, and others because neither was right and the ambiguity
  413. bothered them.)
  414. jms
  415. ====================================
  416. COMMENT #807555: <right == consistency with one's own beliefs,
  417. so *everybody* was right>
  418. ====================================
  419. BABYLON 5: BELIEVERS #807741
  420. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 5:19:03 PM
  421. There's a wonderful scene in "Fiddler on the Roof" where Tevya
  422. is caught in an argument between two Rabbis. The first one makes
  423. a point. "You're right!" Tevya says. The second Rabbi makes a
  424. contradictory point. "You're right!" Tevya says. A third Rabbi,
  425. looking on, says, "Wait a minute, they can't *both* be right."
  426. "You know," Tevya says, "you're right too."
  427. jms
  428. BABYLON 5: BELIEVERS #807119
  429. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 12:04:08 AM
  430. A lot of our episodes are constructed to work as mirrors; you see
  431. what you put into it. "Believers" has been interpreted as pro-religion,
  432. anti- religion, and religion-neutral..."Quality" has been interpreted,
  433. as you note, as pro-capital punishment, and anti-capital punishment. We
  434. do, as you say, much prefer to leave the decision on what things mean
  435. to the viewer to hash out.
  436. A good story should provoke discussion, debate, argument...and
  437. the occasional bar fight.
  438. jms
  439. BABYLON 5: "MIDNIGHT" OBSERVATION #807760
  440. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 5:57:01 PM
  441. Re: the elevator/transport tube gag...yes, we set this stuff up
  442. WAY in advance. The first time is in the tube where he tells Talia
  443. about his second favorite thing in the universe. The second time is
  444. in "Mind War" when he gives her the mental once-over and she belts him.
  445. And then we paid it off later with her line about him always being there.
  446. One nice thing about the way we're doing this show is that we don't
  447. just have to set up gags within an episode; we can set them up *weeks*
  448. ahead of time, as long as the payoff is self-contained, but then when
  449. you see the earlier shows, now you get more out of it.
  450. jms
  451. ========================================
  452. QUESTION #807890: (1) Rerun date for B^2? (2) In AtSFoS, is GC#1 the
  453. Minbari at the end, or the one with the staff? (3) Credits
  454. for B^2 GCs (#1 w/staff, #2 speaking role)
  455. ========================================
  456. BABYLON 5: CREDIT CLARIFICATION #808394
  457. DATE: WED AUG 31, 1994 1:55:30
  458. Not sure on the rerun for "B-squared."
  459. Mark Henrickson was the...rounder of the two Minbari.
  460. The one with the staff wanted to go uncredited.
  461. jms
  462. BABYLON 5: CREDIT CLARIFICATION #808905
  463. DATE: WED AUG 31, 1994 6:33:30
  464. No real reason, he just felt it would be better for the character
  465. to remain mysterious; and since it really wasn't a big part, it wouldn't
  466. make a real difference one way or another in his credits and resume.
  467. (I know that sounds weird, but as near as I can determine, that's
  468. the reason. He did a great job, and we're looking forward to having him
  469. again.)
  470. jms
  471. ========================================
  472. QUESTION #805920: Are Londo's appendages in addition to or
  473. instead of human-type "appendages"?
  474. ========================================
  475. BABYLON 5: JUNE LOCKHART EPISODE #805997
  476. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 11:49:14 PM
  477. That would be instead of, not in addition to.
  478. jms
  479. BABYLON 5: B5 CAST ANNOUNCEMENT! #805620
  480. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 6:11:18 PM
  481. We decided to try an even stranger approach, and have Sinclair
  482. show up again about *mid-way through* the second season once or twice.
  483. There needs to be some mystery to his departure, which being there to
  484. shepherd the New Guy would destroy.
  485. And at the same time, the comic from DC will follow the Sinclair
  486. line after he leaves B5 for the first four issues in particular, starting
  487. by showing the flip-side of what happens in the first episode.
  488. What you suggest is perfectly reasonable; I agree that the tactic
  489. should be unusual. And we think this may well qualify....
  490. jms
  491. BABYLON 5: O'HARE/SINCLAIR-WHY??? #805194
  492. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 3:38:30 AM
  493. Actually, yes, I believe there is a Michael O'Hare Fan Club; I saw
  494. a posting on Internet about it...maybe someone else here saw it and can
  495. relay the details.
  496. I have, btw, now seen the finished (minus music and some minimal EFX)
  497. first episode of B5 with Bruce. We did the producer's cut yesterday, and
  498. I have to say that I think it's very nice. Last season's first episode was,
  499. I think (and as I said at the time), a bit less than it could've been from
  500. a characterization point of view. That was something we grew into slowly
  501. over the course of the season.
  502. In this year two first-episode, there's a lot of humor, some
  503. interesting plot turns, and a very solid emphasis on the characters.
  504. It's sort of a sandwich episode; "Chrysalis," the last year one episode
  505. (which apparently will air a week prior to season two's debut), is
  506. *extremely* intense...so is the second episode of year two, "Revelations."
  507. People are going to need some respite from that, and "Points of Departure"
  508. does this quite nicely.
  509. And Bruce does a wonderful job in the role. He's brought a lot to
  510. the table, and I think people are going to be very pleased.
  511. jms
  512. =====================================
  513. QUESTION #808145: When is Garibaldi going to get a girlfriend?
  514. =====================================
  515. BABYLON 5: O'HARE/SINCLAIR: WHY??? #808395
  516. DATE: WED AUG 31, 1994 1:55:31
  517. Garibaldi will get something going next season....
  518. jms
  519. BABYLON 5: BORING B5 #805621
  520. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 6:11:20 PM
  521. DC Fontana has turned in her first scripts this season,
  522. "A Distant Star," which will be seen as episode #4, and will
  523. likely begin another very soon. I have a story for David Gerrold,
  524. which I'm futzing with just a bit more before giving it to him
  525. to develop.
  526. jms
  527. ========
  528. QUESTION #805938: <from SH, Infection, & QoM, poster has inferred
  529. a finder's-keepers rule for wrecked ships, artifacts> But what about
  530. genetic material from corpses found in wrecked spacecraft?
  531. (e.g. Narns & telepaths)
  532. ========
  533. BABYLON 5: SALVAGE RIGHTS #805998
  534. DATE: SUN AUG 28, 1994 11:49:15 PM
  535. Still working on that bit.
  536. jms
  537. BABYLON 5: TIME-WARNER&MERGERS #809789
  538. DATE: THURS SEPT 1, 1994 4:51:00
  539. You kind of have to begin this conversation with the understanding
  540. that my grasp of matters corporate is not exactly breathtaking; I'm not
  541. quite an idiot on such matters, but I can do a darned good imitation
  542. some days.
  543. Disclaimers aside...in general, the more you tend to concentrate power
  544. over artistic affairs and programming and the creation of TV series in an
  545. increasingly smaller number of people, I think the worse it is overall for
  546. the industry. Let's say you make a fairly eccentric product. If there are
  547. 500 buyers in the room, the odds are decent that you'll find somebody who
  548. resonates with your ideas. If suddenly the number of potential buyers
  549. decrease to 10, then the odds of your ever selling that project become
  550. substantially less.
  551. I can see the fiscal advantage in owning the point of creation and
  552. production, and the point of distribution, in a studio/network merger.
  553. It gives you considerably greater control, and greater revenue sources;
  554. you don't have to worry about the distributer cross-collatoralizing your
  555. revenue streams against fees they shouldn't be charging. But then that's
  556. really the point...it's a *financial* decision, not a creative one, and
  557. though I know that showbiz *is* a BUSINESS, still that sort of approach
  558. worries me just a bit.
  559. jms
  560. BABYLON 5: TIME-WARNER&MERGERS #810235
  561. DATE: THURS SEPT 1, 1994 11:57:10
  562. Thanks for your comments. As it happens, your comments were echoed
  563. today by no less than Leslie Stevens (with Joe Stefano the force behind
  564. THE OUTER LIMITS), who came by the studio for a tour, just to say how much
  565. he loves the show, and the details, and the care with which we produce it.
  566. He's just enamored of the whole thing, and coming from him, that's high
  567. praise indeed. A very nice and gentle man.
  568. To the question of producing LoTR for TV...there are two competing
  569. aspects to the question: desire and practicality. A lot of writer/producers
  570. (viz: folks like me) would *love* beyond the telling the chance to do LoTR.
  571. The flip side of this is the practicality of trying something that truly
  572. massive from a budgetary and location point of view, which would scare off
  573. the networks. Right now, simply from a physical standpoint, it couldn't
  574. be done effectively, no matter how much you spent. Virtually *all* the
  575. locations would have to be built, though you might be able to go on
  576. location for a few things like castles and forests. But how would you do
  577. Mordor? Or Lothorien? Or the Shire? Or Rivendell? Or the high seat
  578. where Frodo has his vision?
  579. In another 5-10 years, when virtual sets have been further perfected,
  580. to real three-dimension realism, you might be able to do the show for
  581. something short of the national budget. And then it might become feasible
  582. for the networks to try. Maybe. You'd have to do it over a period of
  583. six years, one year per half-book. Otherwise there's just way too much
  584. in the way of shifting locations.
  585. I'm just not sure if LoTR *should* be done for TV. Perhaps some
  586. things should remain sacrosanct.
  587. jms
  588. =================
  589. QUESTION #810583: Can you tell us anything about the relative
  590. scale of B5's realm, e.g. Earth's distance to B5, Minbar's
  591. distance to B5?
  592. =================
  593. BABYLON 5: THE B5 GALAXY #810799
  594. DATE: FRI SEPT 2, 1994 9:04:06 PM
  595. I'm in the process of putting that together in one place
  596. for easier reference; it's something we've worked out, piecemeal,
  597. but not gathered together.
  598. jms
  599. BABYLON 5: B5 - GRAVITY #810800
  600. DATE: FRI SEPT 2, 1994 9:04:07 PM
  601. RE: maximum speed...obviously there's no maximum save for
  602. the speed of light, but there's a maximum of what any particular
  603. vessel can travel. There is a maximum speed that the Pioneer
  604. can travel, or the space shuttle. So there is a similar cap on
  605. Starfury accelleration. I'm not sure I see what your concern is here.
  606. jms
  607. BABYLON 5: B5 - GRAVITY #810982
  608. DATE: SAT SEPT 3, 1994 1:20:06
  609. "Either way, "speed" does not in any way equal "thrust," folks."
  610. Sorry. It does.
  611. The maximum thrust your ship can give you is equal to the maximum
  612. speed your ship can travel, particularly since fuel is finite. Given
  613. an infinite amount of fuel, and infinite amounts of time, you can build
  614. up a pretty good head of steam. But Starfuries have neither.
  615. Maximum thrust results, short-term, in maximum speed. The rest is
  616. quibbling over semantics. And pilots are notable for using shorthand.
  617. They may not say, "Utilize F15 rocket engines to maximum thrust." They
  618. may say, "Hit it!"
  619. If maximum thrust provides the top speed your ship can travel, then
  620. maximum speed is perfectly acceptable, and interchangeable. (And we
  621. generally use thrust anyway.)
  622. jms
  623. BABYLON 5: "CREDIT" CARDS #811560
  624. DATE: SAT SEPT 3, 1994 11:19:12
  625. The credit chits work differently depending on who you are. If
  626. you work for B5, your salary is tied into your credit chit, and you
  627. pay accordingly. If you're a visitor from elsewhere, bringing in
  628. non-Earth currency, you exchange that currency (as Aldous noted
  629. in "Grail"), much as you do now. Difference is, you turn in the currency
  630. at the B5 exchange. It is processed on the current rate of exchange,
  631. and you are issued a credit chit programmed with an amount equal to
  632. whatever you brought in. You use it the same way as a credit card,
  633. until it runs out, then it's rejected until you "recharge" it by
  634. exchanging more currency.
  635. It's also tied into your identicard, which has every available fact
  636. about you.
  637. Interestingly enough, I just saw an article in, I believe, WIRED,
  638. which noted that Sweden had just launched on a program of using this
  639. exact same device, same system, on a trial basis.
  640. jms
  641. BABYLON 5: BORING B5 #810236
  642. DATE: THURS SEPT 1, 1994 11:57:12
  643. Berman/Pillar have said, repeatedly, in and out of print, of ST:
  644. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Meaning don't change it. Which,
  645. you have to admit, makes a great deal of fiscal sense. It's a great
  646. franchise, a license to print money...why take a chance on messing
  647. it up by doing something unusual or potentially controversial?
  648. jms
  649. STAR TREK: VOYAGER - MONEY #810564
  650. DATE: FRI SEPT 2, 1994 3:22:19 PM
  651. If I can be permitted one personal, editorial aside....
  652. I'm on a lot of nets. More than I like to think about.
  653. And I tend to keep an eye on various discussions. I've been
  654. tracking the Voyager talks for a while now. (And BTW, if for
  655. no other reason than it was co-created by Jeri Taylor, I wish
  656. the show nothing but success. Let's clarify that from the git-go.)
  657. And I've seen a lot of people, not necessarily you, I'm just
  658. thinking out loud and your message was in front of me when I
  659. started to do so...saying "Let's keep an open mind, give the show
  660. a chance, don't belittle it without seeing it, exercise tolerance."
  661. I also recognize names...and quite a few of those names (again,
  662. I'm not directing this at you) are the same folks who've said that
  663. Babylon 5 would be crap before it aired...and who refuse to watch it,
  664. or even give it a chance....
  665. As Kelsey said in "Mind War," "There are rules...and then there
  666. are rules." One would wish that same open-mindedness would apply to
  667. some areas outside ST.
  668. jms
  669. BABYLON 5: BORING B5 #811565
  670. DATE: SAT SEPT 3, 1994 11:31:24
  671. Here is one other way, responding to that thread of your message,
  672. in which B5 differs in the area of merchandise.
  673. You mention, correctly, that Richard Arnold read and approved all
  674. the ST stuff...comics, novels, whatever.
  675. I work directly with DC on the comics line. I approve artwork,
  676. stories, script and cover art. I work directly with Dell Books on
  677. the B5 novels, approving outline, cover art, and full novels. (I'm
  678. currently about 1/2 through John Vornholt's first B5 novel, and hope
  679. to get my notes -- minimal, it's a good book -- back to Dell by the end
  680. of the coming week.)
  681. The result of this is that there won't ever be the mountain of
  682. licensing on B5 that you've come to associate with ST. Which is fine.
  683. I wouldn't want that much. What there is, has to be consistent in tone
  684. and quality with everything else. This is a story, not a franchise.
  685. jms
  686. BABYLON 5: MARIE CELESTE #811566
  687. DATE: SAT SEPT 3, 1994 11:32:01
  688. As well as the transport Marie Celeste, the new B5 Earthforce Club
  689. is named Earhart's (as in Amelia).
  690. jms
  691. BABYLON 5: JMS SECRETS #810362
  692. DATE: FRI SEPT 2, 1994 4:35:01 AM
  693. I've spoken before of Norman Corwin. For those who might've missed
  694. it, Norman Corwin is one of the finest writers that this country has ever
  695. produced. At the height of the radio drama age, there was no one better
  696. or bigger...not Orson Welles or Arch Oboler. Nobody.
  697. He has been an inspiration to countless writers. Charles Kuralt. Rod
  698. Serling. Ray Bradbury (who began his career trying to write like Norman).
  699. He is, not to put too fine a point on it, a writer's writer. He is the
  700. wellspring from which many of our finest writers can trace their origin.
  701. Speaking as one tiny trickle in this momentous flood, I can certify his
  702. influence on my own work.
  703. Some have commented on the style of writing in Babylon 5, and in some
  704. of my previous work. While much can be laid at the feet of Harlan Ellison,
  705. much of my influence can also be traced to Norman Corwin, who taught me not
  706. just how to write, but what it meant to BE a writer. I cannot commend his
  707. work to you highly enough. If you have a love of language, of a story well
  708. told, of fiction with a conscience and a point of view, then Norman's your
  709. man. Some of you may remember "A Prayer for the 70s," written by Norman,
  710. which I posted a while back. A work of absolute genius, in a career peppered
  711. with awards, and recognition by the U.N. and others.
  712. Many of you have asked for more information about Norman's work. To
  713. that end I offer the following information:
  714. Norman has a new book out, that is just hitting the stands. It is
  715. entitled NORMAN CORWIN'S LETTERS, edited by A. J. Langguth. It's in
  716. hardcover from Barricade Books, ISBN #0-9623032-5-9. It is an amazing
  717. volume, full of inspiration and humor and the occasional thunder-and-lightning.
  718. You will find letters to and from such notables -- friends of Norman's
  719. -- as Carl Sandburg, Ray Bradbury, Bette Davis, Stanley Kramer, Groucho
  720. Marx, Greer Garson, Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, Edward R.
  721. Murrow, Anthony Quinn, Rod Serling, Leonard Bernstein, Erik Barnouw,
  722. Archibald MacLeish, Stan Freberg, Walter Cronkite, Norman Cousins, Studs
  723. Terkel, Eric Sevareid, Philip Dunne, Bill Moyers, Gregory Peck...the list
  724. goes on and on.
  725. The letters are documents of a life, funny and outraged and thoughtful...
  726. and beautifully written beyond my capacity to describe it to you. If you
  727. are a writer, or interested in writing, I can commend no book to you higher
  728. than this one.
  729. If as a Babylon 5 viewer you'd like to get a better grasp of what
  730. inspired me to pursue my career, and has helped make that dream a reality...
  731. I recommend to you the works of Norman Corwin, starting with this book.
  732. If you need any further encouragement to go out *today* and get a copy
  733. of this book, then let me simply suggest that you call up a copy of Who's
  734. Who, and look up who Norman Corwin is. I don't think you'll need additional
  735. encouragement thereafter.
  736. jms
  737. BABYLON 5: JUMP GATES #810363
  738. DATE: FRI SEPT 2, 1994 4:35:06 AM
  739. Wellllllll...he said, smiling......yes, we're going to be showing
  740. the insides of Hyperspace on several occasions this coming season. We've
  741. been working on the design, and it's *really* cool...dark and dangerous
  742. and very weird looking. AND we're doing more POV stuff from within ships
  743. and cockpits. It's very neat stuff.
  744. jms
  745. BABYLON 5: ORIGINAL 2ND IN COMMAND #810556
  746. DATE: FRI SEPT 2, 1994 2:53:06 PM
  747. There were a number of reasons why Laurel Takashima was reassigned.
  748. Primary among them...Tamlyn is a wonderful romantic lead in feature films
  749. and television. She felt less than comfortable with her performance as a
  750. command officer. It's not really the kind of thing she tends to do. So
  751. we discussed it, and all parties decided it would be best if we sought out
  752. someone else.
  753. jms
  754. BABYLON 5: TOP TEN LIST #807050
  755. FROM: JAN FENNICK, 71670,254 (REPOSTED BY AUTHOR'S PERMISSION)
  756. DATE: MON AUG 29, 11:31:08 PM
  757. This following top ten list is going to be published in the newsletter
  758. I help edit called "Continuous Future Experience" which is a pop culture
  759. thingee about stuff we (meaning my editor in chief and other writers)
  760. like. Anyway, thought you'd get a kick out of it in light of the current
  761. "Boring B5" discussion. (disclaimer: this is meant to be humourous)
  762. Top Ten Reasons Why *Real* Science Fiction Fans Don't Like Babylon 5
  763. by Ian Prydon
  764. 1. It's not "Classic" Star Trek.
  765. 2. It's not Star Trek: The Next Generation.
  766. 3. It's not Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
  767. 4. It's not as good as Star Trek: Voyager is going to be.
  768. 5. It's not Doctor Who.
  769. 6. It's not Blake's 7.
  770. 7. It's not Star Trek: The Animated Series.
  771. 8. There aren't enough half dressed buxom babes to keep my interest.
  772. And the girls they have on there are too smart.
  773. 9. There aren't any Klingons, Romulans, Vulcans, Cardassians
  774. or Ferengis on the show.
  775. 10. I don't get most of the plots. And they don't even explain everything
  776. by the end of the program.
  777. 11. There isn't any neat merchandising stuff to spend my money on.
  778. BABYLON 5: TOP TEN LIST #807120
  779. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 12:04:10 AM
  780. People are also bound to say B5 folk can't do math.
  781. There were 11 items in your top ten.
  782. "Much apologizing...mathematics not Zathras' skill...."
  783. jms
  784. BABYLON 5: TOP TEN LIST #807257
  785. FROM: JAN FENNICK (REPOSTED BY AUTHOR'S PERMISSION)
  786. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 2:02:20 AM
  787. >>People are also bound to say B5 folk can't do math.
  788. >>There were 11 items in your top ten.
  789. The author did that intentionally. Just a little test to see who
  790. is awake out there. :-D The other test is the author's name itself.
  791. Eventually, I'm planning on writing a critical review of B5 Season 1
  792. but right now I'm trying to finish an article on how all 7 seasons
  793. of ST:TNG were like a brontosaurus; very thin at one end, very thick
  794. in the middle and then thin again at the end. (honest)
  795. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 3:50:06 AM #807328
  796. FROM: J MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
  797. Critical review for whom?
  798. jms
  799. BABYLON 5: TOP TEN LIST #807452
  800. FROM: JAN FENNICK (REPOSTED BY AUTHOR'S PERMISSION)
  801. DATE: TUES AUG 30, 1994 9:59:29 AM
  802. Continous Future Experience, the soon to be launched newsletter
  803. my friend and I are editing. Just another desktop publication,
  804. but we're trying to have fun with it. As I mentioned in my last
  805. post, it's just a pop culture newsletter about 'stuff we like'.
  806. And what our writers like, too. Some of it will be serious
  807. and some of it goofy, like the top 10 list. It's kind of surreal
  808. since several of the writers will actually be writing columns
  809. as different personas. If you'd like, is there a snail mail address
  810. for Babylonian Productions? I'll make sure you're on the mailing list.
  811. BABYLON 5: B5 AT THE HUGOS #811661
  812. DATE: SUN SEP 4, 1994 2:26:22
  813. We don't have any trailers. Never been made. As it was, the
  814. only one we had access to was one put together by John (Fenn) Hudgens,
  815. from GEnie, who made this one for his own interest, and sent us a copy.
  816. jms
  817. BABYLON 5: B5 AT THE HUGOS #812234
  818. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 4:12:05
  819. No B5 bible has ever been authorized for sale, no.
  820. jms
  821. BABYLON 5: HOMAGE, OR PLAGIARISM? #812629
  822. FROM: J MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI
  823. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 4:47:14
  824. To deal with your points one by one...may I first suggest widening
  825. your reading background a bit. I'm amazed that you can say, of "regular
  826. signals repeated at specific intervals" that this is a steal from ALIENS.
  827. I would suggest that you do some reading in the SETI literature; this is
  828. the first test for detecting a communications signal from space. There
  829. are monitoring stations set up all over the place listening for just this
  830. kind of signal. Not ALIENS, just plain old science.
  831. RE: missiles...many people here and on other nets asked if we would
  832. see missiles in an episode of B5; they said they were tired of everything
  833. just being beams. So I opted to use missiles. They are a perfectly valid
  834. means of defense. They had nothing to do with HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE.
  835. ===============================
  836. NOTE from MLW: This isn't a typographical error---JMS forgot
  837. to put in his signature.
  838. ================================
  839. BABYLON 5: JMS SECRETS #812140
  840. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 12:12:23
  841. Actually, Norman is still with us, and working every bit as much
  842. and as hard as ever. He has a second book coming out in about a month,
  843. part of the Directors Guild oral-history series, based on a bunch of
  844. interviews they conducted with him. At age 84, he can still write
  845. rings around nearly everyone else in the business.
  846. jms
  847. BABYLON 5: JUMP GATES #811966
  848. DATE: SUN SEP 4, 1994 6:18:11
  849. Travel from point A to point B takes some amount of time. But when
  850. you're near your destination, you can wait in hyperspace and choose to
  851. come out at a specific moment. There's considerable speculation that
  852. both the Minbari and Vorlons have ships standing by in hyperspace, at
  853. various locations, in case they're needed quickly. (In the pilot movie,
  854. Laurel Takashima even mentions that they are probably doing this.) It's
  855. a correlation to the TOT (Time On Target) philosophy; you can send ships
  856. in from various sectors, have them lurk in hyperspace, then all come out
  857. at once.
  858. jms
  859. BABYLON 5: JUMP GATES #812141
  860. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 12:12:24
  861. Actually, T.O.T. comes from 20th century nuke technology. The
  862. origins of this come from the need to sometimes launch ICBMs at
  863. staggered intervals, but on a launch and flight vector such that
  864. they all land at the same time, for greatest impact.
  865. jms
  866. BABYLON 5: ALIENS #811978
  867. DATE: SUN SEP 4, 1994 6:34:03
  868. We've had other kinds of aliens, including the CGI creature
  869. in "Grail," and we're doing more non-humanoid stuff in year two,
  870. mixing prosthetics with CGI.
  871. What you have to understand, though, is that if you're going
  872. to have a character BE a character, alien or not, you've basically
  873. got two choices: put a human actor in makeup of some kind or other,
  874. or you use puppets or animatronics, and in general the technology
  875. to realize that still isn't enough to make it really lifelike.
  876. Also, interestingly enough, I spoke to a lot of folks who know
  877. biology and genetics and have an interest in xenobiology...and what
  878. they said was that the basic humanoid configuration is the ideal one
  879. from an evolutionary standpoint. Logically, you need minimum two hands
  880. to grasp, and an opposable thumb (or two) to utilize tools; you want
  881. your sensors at the highest part of your body in order to detect prey
  882. and predators; you'll want legs instead of crawlers to run away from
  883. predators more effectively, and because lower motor areas such as legs
  884. are useful in controlling elements of technology; two legs are more
  885. useful than four for getting through narrow areas and being more limber....
  886. The analysis goes on, but you get the idea. And just as one last
  887. thought in your direction...whatever one may think of UFO sightings,
  888. you'll note that all of them have been of humanoid shapes, not one
  889. slithering BEM in the bunch.
  890. jms
  891. BABYLON 5: ALIENS #812143
  892. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 12:12:28
  893. Which is exactly the point...alien life forms conceived in
  894. fiction novels can be as strange as you want. You can do anything.
  895. You can have a conversation with sentient pocket lint if you like.
  896. The question becomes, what's practical and do-able in a visual medium?
  897. What works on the page does not necessarily work on the stage.
  898. jms
  899. BABYLON 5: B5 COMIC SOLICITED #812144
  900. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 12:18:14
  901. I'm with you. I just turned 40, and have a comics habit to the tune
  902. of $30-$40 per week. To anyone who still thinks comics are for kids, I
  903. would heartily recommend SANDMAN by Neil Gaiman (separate from Sandman
  904. Mystery title, done by Matt Wagner, which is great, but may not be as
  905. accessible). Neil does some amazing stuff. Ditto Frank Miller, currently
  906. publishing in MARTHA WASHINGTON GOES TO WAR. The form is really coming
  907. into its own.
  908. jms
  909. BABYLON 5: JUMP GATES #812808
  910. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 8:20:00
  911. I think that the Eye was returned the next day, so there was
  912. a goodly span between Ladira's vision, and the scene in Londo's quarters.
  913. jms
  914. ========================================
  915. QUESTION #812303: Why is it called the *Gray* Council? Because
  916. they are between light and dark?
  917. =========================================
  918. BABYLON 5: GRAY COUNCIL #812652
  919. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 5:04:30
  920. Yes. As Delenn says when she takes her place in the Council,
  921. "I am grey; I stand between the candle, and the star; we are Grey,
  922. we stand between the darkness, and the light."
  923. jms
  924. STAR TREK: VOYAGER - MONEY #811965
  925. DATE: SUN SEP 4, 1994 6:18:04
  926. One thing we have in common is that we're both fans of SF. And like
  927. you, I've largely felt disappointed by TV-SF in the past. Which was one
  928. reason for wanting to try it myself.
  929. Generalizing this discussion past my own show and ST for a moment,
  930. I think there's some cause for hope. One of the reasons, perhaps *the*
  931. primary reason, why much of the prior SF shows have been less than they
  932. could've been, or hooked around a gimmick rather than character stuff,
  933. is that they were generally cobbled together by people who didn't know
  934. the genre, didn't respect the genre.
  935. Now we're entering a period where folks like George RR Martin and
  936. Melinda Snodgrass and Michael Cassutt and others who are SF literate
  937. are getting into positions where they can run shows. And I think that,
  938. with time, this will further increase the amount and quality of TV SF.
  939. jms
  940. BABYLON 5: MARIE CELESTE #811566
  941. DATE: SAT SEP 3, 1994 11:32:01
  942. As well as the transport Marie Celeste, the new B5 Earthforce Club
  943. is named Earhart's (as in Amelia).
  944. jms
  945. BABYLON 5: "CREDIT" CARDS #811560
  946. DATE: SAT SEP 3, 1994 11:19:12
  947. The credit chits work differently depending on who you are. If
  948. you work for B5, your salary is tied into your credit chit, and you
  949. pay accordingly. If you're a visitor from elsewhere, bringing in
  950. non-Earth currency, you exchange that currency (as Aldous noted in
  951. "Grail"), much as you do now. Difference is, you turn in the currency
  952. at the B5 exchange. It is processed on the current rate of exchange,
  953. and you are issued a credit chit programmed with an amount equal to
  954. whatever you brought in. You use it the same way as a credit card,
  955. until it runs out, then it's rejected until you "recharge" it by
  956. exchanging more currency.
  957. It's also tied into your identicard, which has every available fact
  958. about you.
  959. Interestingly enough, I just saw an article in, I believe, WIRED,
  960. which noted that Sweden had just launched on a program of using this
  961. exact same device, same system, on a trial basis.
  962. jms
  963. BABYLON 5: BORING B5 #811565
  964. DATE: SAT SEP 3, 1994 11:31:24
  965. Here is one other way, responding to that thread of your message,
  966. in which B5 differs in the area of merchandise.
  967. You mention, correctly, that Richard Arnold read and approved all
  968. the ST stuff...comics, novels, whatever.
  969. I work directly with DC on the comics line. I approve artwork,
  970. stories, script and cover art. I work directly with Dell Books on
  971. the B5 novels, approving outline, cover art, and full novels. (I'm
  972. currently about 1/2 through John Vornholt's first B5 novel, and hope to
  973. get my notes -- minimal, it's a good book -- back to Dell by the end
  974. of the coming week.)
  975. The result of this is that there won't ever be the mountain of
  976. licensing on B5 that you've come to associate with ST. Which is fine.
  977. I wouldn't want that much. What there is, has to be consistent in
  978. tone and quality with everything else. This is a story, not a franchise.
  979. jms
  980. DATE: TUES SEPT 6, 1994 3:47:17 #813447
  981. No, actually, Stewart Copeland has done a lot of other soundtracks,
  982. for the Rhythmitist, and for the Equalizer series. He wanted to do
  983. some touring and an album after the pilot, which precluded doing the series.
  984. jms
  985. BABYLON 5: B5 COMIC SOLICITED #813095
  986. DATE: TUES SEP 6, 1994 12:50:12
  987. Yeah, Cerebus is good, though lately it seems like we're getting
  988. far too little artwork and way too much text.
  989. jms
  990. BABYLON 5: C4 BAN B5(TKO) #814082
  991. DATE: WED SEP 7, 1994
  992. "I wonder if JMS has an opinion on the scheduling (and banning)
  993. of his work?"
  994. Absolutely.
  995. jms
  996. BABYLON 5: ALIENS #812943
  997. DATE: MON SEP 5, 1994 10:33:10
  998. "Why were all of those alien lifeforms living in glass tanks
  999. with no privacy?"
  1000. Why do you think alien lifeforms feel the same way about privacy
  1001. that humans do?
  1002. jms
  1003. BABYLON 5: PRISONER STYLE END? #812651
  1004. DATE: MON SEPT 5, 1994 5:04:28
  1005. There are guarantees short of the grave.
  1006. That said...I think the ending for the B5 storyline is pretty cool.
  1007. That said...I don't think it's really about the ending. The ending
  1008. is simply where the story finally stops. Look at the ending of THE LORD
  1009. OF THE RINGS. Frodo back in the shire (though not entirely the same shire
  1010. it was when he left), glad that it's all over.
  1011. The climax of the story isn't always the same as the end of the story.
  1012. The climax of LoTR would be when the ring is returned to the fire, and
  1013. destroyed, in my view. Others might say that Aragorn being returned as
  1014. the kind would be the climax. The fact is there's SO much going on in
  1015. those books that it's hard to pick any one as being *the* climax.
  1016. In THE PRISONER, it was all centered on one question: will he or
  1017. will he not get off the island, and who's behind it? (Okay, that's two
  1018. questions, but they're associated.) B5 isn't built around ANY one question.
  1019. It has a lot of different pieces and threads, each with their own arc,
  1020. like LoTR. Look at the LENSMAN books. Same thing.
  1021. Will you be satisfied by the ending? More to the question, are you
  1022. being satisfied by the beginning, and the journey so far? That's the more
  1023. telling question. B5 is more about the journey than the destination, though
  1024. you have to craft one hell of a climax and a solid ending nonetheless.
  1025. You're also asking us to make a subjective decision that really
  1026. only you can make. You didn't like the ending of THE PRISONER. I
  1027. think it's nifty. It's obvious that some stuff was thrown in just to
  1028. get weird; but a lot of it wasn't, and you really have to sit down and
  1029. parse through the thing to get maximum meaning out of it. It's not as
  1030. absurd as it looks.
  1031. Watch the show for as long as you enjoy the journey.
  1032. jms
  1033. BABYLON 5: PRISONER STYLE END? #814081
  1034. DATE: WED SEPT 7, 1994
  1035. I've had occasion to talk to a number of people who were involved
  1036. in the production of THE PRISONER, and there's one very interesting aspect
  1037. they give to the events.
  1038. What they say is that #6 resigned *expecting* to get kidnapped,
  1039. that he had heard about the Village, and protested, and deliberately
  1040. put himself in the position of being taken there in order to prove
  1041. his thesis: that the whole value of the thing could be proven worthless
  1042. if even *one man* was able to defy what was supposed to be an unbreakable
  1043. and inescapeable system. So there was really no mystery about why he
  1044. resigned, except among the lower level flunkies...but they wanted him to
  1045. *say* it, to prove they could break him.
  1046. (Further proof to this theory is in the main titles, the way
  1047. he drives and never looks back, despite being followed...when the gas
  1048. enters his room, he looks up and just for a second, there's a very definite
  1049. smile on his face, a "good, let's get on with it, then" expression. His
  1050. glance out the window, almost a knowing, parting glance...then away.)
  1051. And so, at the end, he has proven his point. The unbreakable machine
  1052. is broken, its usefulness destroyed. Unless he should choose to join it
  1053. and run it, his resolution *not* to be broken being strong enough probably
  1054. to break anyone else like him. But he refuses, and when he does so,
  1055. it all comes apart.
  1056. The irony, of course, being that once he's back, and he enters
  1057. his own apartment...the door opens and closes automatically, just like
  1058. in the Village...implying that when you come down to it, we're *all*
  1059. in the Village every day, all of us.
  1060. jms
  1061. BABYLON 5: HOMAGE, OR PLAGIARISM? #812629
  1062. DATE: MON SEPT 5, 1994 4:47:14
  1063. To deal with your points one by one...may I first suggest widening
  1064. your reading background a bit. I'm amazed that you can say, of "regular
  1065. signals repeated at specific intervals" that this is a steal from ALIENS.
  1066. I would suggest that you do some reading in the SETI literature; this is
  1067. the first test for detecting a communications signal from space. There
  1068. are monitoring stations set up all over the place listening for just this
  1069. kind of signal. Not ALIENS, just plain old science.
  1070. RE: missiles...many people here and on other nets asked if we would
  1071. see missiles in an episode of B5; they said they were tired of everything
  1072. just being beams. So I opted to use missiles. They are a perfectly valid
  1073. means of defense. They had nothing to do with HITCHHIKER'S GUIDE.
  1074. ===============
  1075. (Mr Straczynski omitted his sig on the above.)
  1076. ===============
  1077. QUESTION/APOLOGY #813292: apology from poster JMS responded to in #812629;
  1078. in Homage or Plagiarism thread; unintentional offence
  1079. ===============
  1080. BABYLON 5: HOMAGE OR PLAGIARISM? #813445
  1081. DATE: TUES SEP 6, 1994 3:47:13
  1082. Understood. No problems here.
  1083. jms
  1084. BABYLON 5: HOMAGE, OR PLAGIARISM? #813443
  1085. DATE: TUES SEP 6, 1994 3:47:09
  1086. Sorry, I'm not going to let you run this number on me. I have been
  1087. on line and receiving criticism -- good and bad -- since the pilt went on
  1088. the air. And agreeing with much of it. I've taken *immense* amounts of
  1089. criticism.
  1090. What bothered me in the message, and what you didn't address, is
  1091. the difference between a *criticism* and an *allegation*. Look at the
  1092. header of this message. HOMAGE OR PLAGIARISM. Had the header read,
  1093. simply, HOMAGE? I wouldn't have had a problem. But what it says -- and
  1094. again, words have meaning -- is "Is this a tribute, or is it theft?"
  1095. There is a quantum difference between criticism, and accusing someone of
  1096. a crime.
  1097. For some reason, some people just leap to this. David Gerrold had
  1098. to fend off the allegations that he ripped off Peter David's novel. Some
  1099. people think that if there is any similarity in theme, it has to be theft.
  1100. And they're too quick to throw around terms like plagiarism without
  1101. understanding what they are saying, and what the impact is. And then when
  1102. they get called on it, they say the person's being defensive and doesn't
  1103. want criticism...as you just did.
  1104. Wrong. It's not a matter of God jumping on anybody. I'm sorry, but
  1105. I see 500 messages a day, most of them with a suggestion or a criticism.
  1106. I don't jump on people unless there's a reason. I've been here on this
  1107. forum talking about this a long time, and the people here know that. The
  1108. day you can wade through 500 messages a day dissecting what YOU do for
  1109. a living, then you can come talk to me about being open to criticism.
  1110. jms
  1111. ==============
  1112. QUESTION: <enjoyed the B5 mantra>
  1113. ==============
  1114. DATE: WED SEP 7, 1994 #814059
  1115. Ivanova's a hoot, no mistake....
  1116. jms
  1117. BABYLON 5: TECH 1 GONE #814083
  1118. DATE: WED SEP 7, 1994
  1119. Marianne Robertson wanted to spend time with her husband,
  1120. Dick Robertson, do some traveling, and possibly (I'm told)
  1121. have a kid. Some people actually have lives outside of their
  1122. work (impossible as that idea seems to me at times).
  1123. jms
  1124. BABYLON 5: JUMP GATES #814061
  1125. DATE: WED SEP 7, 1994
  1126. Yes, most of the energy is expended getting in and out of hyperspace,
  1127. with a fair amount being expended navigating through it.
  1128. jms
  1129. =======
  1130. PRAISE 813550: better than Trek: TOS
  1131. =======
  1132. DATE: WED SEP 7, 1994 #814060
  1133. Many thanks.
  1134. jms
  1135. BABYLON 5: PRISONER STYLE END? #815042
  1136. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:17:22
  1137. Alexis Kanner (who played the young guy who escaped with #6), who is
  1138. also a friend of Patrick's, says that Patrick always considered #6 to be
  1139. Drake.
  1140. jms
  1141. =====
  1142. QUESTION #815229: What is Alexis Kanner doing now?
  1143. =====
  1144. BABYLON 5: PRISONER STYLE END? 815240
  1145. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 3:22:26
  1146. Acting, doing a bit of directing, that sort of thing.
  1147. jms
  1148. BABYLON 5: PRISONER STYLE END? #815043
  1149. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:17:24
  1150. I wish I could take credit for the interpretation, but that's
  1151. the one that I've picked up from the few people I've met who actually
  1152. worked on the thing.
  1153. jms
  1154. =========
  1155. QUESTION #814533: Have you read the DC Comics sequel to The Prisoner?
  1156. =========
  1157. BABYLON 5: PRISONER STYLE END? #815049
  1158. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:18:06
  1159. Actually, yes, I did read the DC book...but for the life of me,
  1160. I can't remember the precise storyline. I remember he was there, had
  1161. come back, was older...but beyond that, it's just fallen out of my head.
  1162. jms
  1163. BABYLON 5: PRISONER STYLE END? #815052
  1164. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:18:13
  1165. Thanks. I love Patrick's work. Problem is he's *very* fussy on the
  1166. roles he takes. (And justifiably so.) He has to be sold on the script or
  1167. there's no deal. We'd sent him a copy of "And the Sky Full of Stars,"
  1168. which would have had him as the main interrogator, Knight Two...and he liked
  1169. it, and was prepared to do it...when we checked our respective calendars
  1170. and discovered that he was going to be out of the country when we were
  1171. scheduled to shoot.
  1172. We hope to get him at some later time. He's just terrific.
  1173. jms
  1174. BABYLON 5: KUDOS #815916
  1175. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 8:56:02
  1176. My favorite books when growing up: the Lord of the Rings trilogy,
  1177. a Lovecraft anthology (The Color out of Space), and the Martian Chronicles.
  1178. jms
  1179. BABYLON 5: KUDOS #815048
  1180. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:18:04
  1181. Thanks. I've had a long time to think about what I want to do with
  1182. the story, and that's what I've *always* wanted to do...something that
  1183. would be in the spirit of the great, huge, sprawling sagas that I grew up
  1184. reading. As far as individual stories are concerned...when you've got
  1185. characters as interesting as G'Kar and Delenn and Ivanova and all the rest
  1186. (and now Sheridan), it's easy to come up with stories for them...and very
  1187. hard to make them shut up once they start talking in a scene. They pretty
  1188. much just take over and start running around causing havoc....
  1189. jms
  1190. BABYLON 5: C4 BAN B5 (TKO) #815918
  1191. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 8:56:07
  1192. Your best bet is to either get one from the States, or wait until
  1193. it's released on video over in the UK.
  1194. jms
  1195. =======
  1196. COMMENT #816179: saw JMS' photo at WorldCon in a display
  1197. of "Professionals of Science Fiction", not what poster had
  1198. imagined JMS looked like
  1199. =======
  1200. BABYLON 5: C4 BAN B5 (TKO) #816284
  1201. DATE: FRI SEP 9, 1994 12:41:08 AM
  1202. Just curious (how could I not be after that?) how the photo differed
  1203. from the perception based on the work. I'll say that the photo isn't the
  1204. best of me, not because of the photographer, who was fine, but because
  1205. I was just sorta walking by one day, dressed real casual, frumpy shirt,
  1206. when I was asked if I'd sit for one.
  1207. jms
  1208. BABYLON 5: B5 CAST ANNOUNCEMENT #815051
  1209. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:18:11
  1210. Replacing Sinclair? No, not precisely. Boxleitner's character,
  1211. Captain John Sheridan, is coming aboard B5 as its now commanding officer,
  1212. but Sinclair isn't gone permanently. He is being moved off the chessboard
  1213. for a time, allowing us to broaden out the story, and give Michael the
  1214. chance to pursue some interests of his own in the meantime. Sinclair will
  1215. return from time to time as the story requires. (There's a lengthy message
  1216. in library 13 here with more details.)
  1217. jms
  1218. =====
  1219. QUESTION: So what *happened* to Sinclair? (paraphrase)
  1220. =====
  1221. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:17:26
  1222. You'll find that out in episode one, starting in November. To
  1223. say now would be telling....
  1224. jms
  1225. BABYLON 5: ALIENS #815047
  1226. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:18:02
  1227. Frankly, in the long run, I'm *much* happier with Chris Franke.
  1228. Stewart was more of the "let's make a library of music and draw from it
  1229. and remix a lot" school. Nothing wrong with that, lots of shows do it.
  1230. Chris, on the other hand, uses *very* little library stuff; each episode
  1231. is scored individually, and the music is lush, driving, powerful. I
  1232. couldn't be happier.
  1233. jms
  1234. ========
  1235. COMMENT #814245: <doesn't like the idea of a woman captain>
  1236. <claims ST's purpose is to allow its "mostly male audience" to unwind>
  1237. (NOTE: poster sounds serious, not like flame-bait MLW)
  1238. ========
  1239. STAR TREK: BOYCOTT ST:VOYAGER #815084
  1240. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 12:44:27
  1241. Calamity Jane.
  1242. Annie Oakley.
  1243. Joan of Arc.
  1244. Indira Ghandi.
  1245. Amelia Earhart.
  1246. Mary Queen of Scots.
  1247. The usual flurry of Celtic warrior queens...the woman who led an army
  1248. in the Old Testament (just forgot her name)....
  1249. Oh, yeah...and Ripley, and Susan Ivanova....
  1250. jms
  1251. STAR TREK: BOYCOTT ST:VOYAGER #815915
  1252. DATE: THURS SEP 8, 1994 8:56:01
  1253. Ripley is *not* a character of history, that's a character
  1254. of fiction.
  1255. There have been plenty of stories and movies written about
  1256. Annie Oakley, Joan of Arc, Amelia Earhart and all the rest.
  1257. jms
  1258. BABYLON 5: B5 WINS MAKUP EMMY #818543
  1259. DATE: SUN SEPT 11, 1994 2:02:13
  1260. Just learned that Babylon 5 won an Emmy for its Makeup Design, for
  1261. "The Parliament of Dreams." This is our second Emmy so far, our first
  1262. for the series. I'm determined that next year we get some notices for
  1263. our acting and other above-the-line areas.
  1264. In any event, congratulations to our makeup and prosthetics design
  1265. people.
  1266. jms
  1267. ======
  1268. MESSAGE #818603: <praise and congratulations>
  1269. ======
  1270. BABYLON 5: B5 WINS MAKUP EMMY #818608
  1271. DATE: SUN SEP 11, 1994 5:09:17 AM
  1272. Thanks x 2 for the kind words.
  1273. jms
  1274. BABYLON 5: NEW JMS PROJECTS #817492
  1275. DATE: SAT SEP 10, 1994 2:26:24
  1276. You can have the Sun reporter contact me through Warner Burbank.
  1277. Typical, though....
  1278. And now perhaps you can see what it's like; they're always asking you
  1279. to prove what makes you different from Star Trek. Why should they think
  1280. we're the SAME as Star Trek? To many reporters, it's all the same thing,
  1281. which is depressing. How does the producer of NYPD prove that his show is
  1282. different from Picket Fences? *They're just not the same show*.
  1283. Anyway, I enjoyed working with you for the full totality of five
  1284. minutes.
  1285. Too bad; at six minutes you'd've started getting residuals.
  1286. jms
  1287. BABYLON 5: MINBARI CRUISER ANALYSIS #817503
  1288. DATE: SAT SEP 10, 1994 2:43:07
  1289. I've said that Earth tech doesn't have any kind of gravitational tech,
  1290. including magnetic/tractor beams. The Minbari have a much greater control
  1291. over and knowledge of gravitational science.
  1292. jms
  1293. BABYLON 5: "BELIEVERS" #817504
  1294. DATE: SAT SEP 10, 1994 2:43:08 AM
  1295. How Ivanova got away from the Raiders was taking advantage of
  1296. her lead to run away, occasionally firing backward to deter pursuit,
  1297. until she got to the jumpgate. It wasn't really anything dramatically
  1298. interesting, and at that point you would start distracting from the
  1299. main plot...and that couldn't be allowed to happen. There's really
  1300. noplace in the rest of the act where you can cut in without destroying it.
  1301. And in the tag there's no room for the pursuit, only the arrival.
  1302. jms
  1303. DATE: SUN SEP 11, 1994 2:02:11 AM #818542
  1304. Thanks, glad you're enjoying the show. So far, we plan to keep
  1305. right on doing what we're doing until the game is called on account
  1306. of darkness.
  1307. jms
  1308. STAR TREK: BUJOLD WALKS-RUMOR? #818237
  1309. DATE: SAT SEP 10, 1994 8:55:02
  1310. I don't understand why there's so much concern about whether or not
  1311. they can meet their airdate schedule. There's still plenty of time. We
  1312. began shooting the new season of B5 on August 11th, to go on the air
  1313. November 2nd. That's just under 3 months, and we'll be delivering episodes
  1314. a few weeks before airing.. As of right now, there are 4 months between
  1315. now and January, Voyager's debut. If they take another full month to find
  1316. a replacement, that's still more time than we took, so they should be fine.
  1317. jms
  1318. STAR TREK: BUJOLD TOO BOLDLY GOES! #818238
  1319. DATE: SAT SEP 10, 1994 8:55:07
  1320. Let me just jump in here on the "say each line word for word" issue that you keep throwing around. The notion of how much actors improvise on TV is *grossly* exaggerated. I have not worked on any show yet in which the actor is allowed to just change lines or wordings on set without first getting permission from the story editor or producer.
  1321. The reason for this is very simple: episodes are not shot in order
  1322. of scenes, but in order of location (i.e., all the mess hall shots are
  1323. done in there, then you move the camera crew to another location, and
  1324. you do all those scenes, then you interweave them in editing). It's
  1325. VERY easy to lose track if you're shooting that way, and you can change
  1326. a line in scene 9, from "He said it's the absolute truth" to "He said
  1327. he wasn't lying," not realizing that *another* character in another
  1328. scene has already said, or will say, "Like Mike said, it's the absolute
  1329. truth," and now those two scenes don't match. Meaning you now have to
  1330. go in and edit around it and loop the dialogue.
  1331. Sometimes an actor may not fully realize that there's a clue, or
  1332. a particular line that must be repeated. So the rule on EVERY show
  1333. that I've ever worked on -- particularly the more technical ones --
  1334. have the same rule: absolutely NO changes allowed on set without
  1335. consultation with the story editor/producer(s). That's the rule on B5,
  1336. Murder She Wrote, the Twilight Zone...on and on and on.
  1337. There's this contemporary mythology that actors get up there and
  1338. start improvising and adlibbing, and that somehow ST is an aberration
  1339. for not allowing that. Simply not true. You have bought into the
  1340. trap of accepted cliche and misinformation.
  1341. jms
  1342. STAR TREK: BUJOLD TOO BOLDLY GOES! #818541
  1343. DATE: SUN SEP 11, 1994 2:02:10 AM
  1344. I have no direct contact with the day-to-day operations at ST,
  1345. and if there's one thing that I've learned from the occasional sarcasm
  1346. and rumor mongering and speculation attendant upon the modification
  1347. in B5 casting, it's that such speculation is invariably wrong, and hurtful,
  1348. and cynical, and thus nothing much is gained by my contributing to it.
  1349. jms
  1350. BABYLON 5: C4 BAN B5 (TKO) #814082
  1351. DATE: WED SEP 7, 1994
  1352. "I wonder if JMS has an opinion on the scheduling (and banning)
  1353. of his work?"
  1354. Absolutely.
  1355. jms
  1356. DATE: FRI SEP 9, 1994 3:34:28 PM #816752
  1357. I *believe* that only the first batch of episodes, up to but not
  1358. including "Believers," are Hugo eligible for next year, due to the dates
  1359. on which they were broadcast. (There's a cutoff somewhere in there on
  1360. eligibility, so later ones will have to be for the 1996 Hugos.) Perhaps
  1361. someone out there can provide the specific dates for eligibility for the
  1362. 1995 Hugos. I think the only real biggies eligible from the first part
  1363. of the season would be "Mind War" and "And the Sky Full of Stars," but
  1364. someone out there may know better.
  1365. jms
  1366. ==========
  1367. QUESTION #816622: Is there *any* chance that your casting director,
  1368. Mary Jo Slater, could get her son to show up at some point?
  1369. ==========
  1370. BABYLON 5: CASTING SUGGESTIONS #816753
  1371. DATE: FRI SEP 9, 1994 3:34:29 PM
  1372. It's something she's mentioned to us a few times, so we'll see.
  1373. jms